Post by: Freedumb88 on February 23, 2023, 07:44:37 PM
Post by: Gettin Birdie on February 24, 2023, 06:04:33 AM
Post by: JakeLand on February 24, 2023, 06:39:25 AM
Get a Knight bighorn, disc extreme or other and search Sabotloader on google and here. I was new in 2016/17, was recommended a Knight by my boss, sabotloaders posts covered every question I had and was a lifesaver, even though I never talked with him or responded to any posts, loads of info he has written and has others on here.X2 I’ve talked with Mike many times !! Started with a cva and converted to a strictly knight guy , if you can pony it buy a knight ultra lite and you’ll have the best muzzy
Post by: Smokepole on February 24, 2023, 06:45:15 AM
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Post by: Westside88 on February 24, 2023, 09:19:22 AM
Post by: skinzner on February 24, 2023, 09:25:03 AM
I have a disc extreme thumbhole 50 cal with everything you need bullets, powder, primers, etc for 450 just pm me if interested. Also comes with a Vortex 1X scope new in the box if that ever becomes legal. Also has Williams sights on it.
Post by: RC on February 24, 2023, 10:13:49 AM
Post by: Gettin Birdie on February 24, 2023, 10:21:32 AM
No matter what gun you decide on, make sure you get one of the Williams peep sites to go with it. The fiber optic one has been a game changer for me.
Yes, peep all the way, I didn't do the globe up front, but you can do that as well!
Post by: Gettin Birdie on February 24, 2023, 10:22:47 AM
I sure like my Knight Disc-extreme with the thumbhole stock. I was really focusing on the bolt action and the thumbhole was just dumb luck for me, but it carries nice and shoots great.
I thought the thumbhole stock was stupid and looked dumb, was set on a straight stock, got to the store, handled a thumbhole stock and now own 2 :chuckle:
Post by: HntnFsh on February 24, 2023, 12:39:33 PM
When it comes to misfires I have had exactly 0 in over 25 years while actually hunting. Originally used a Wolverine. Then a Bighorn for the last 15 or so years. Did have 1 misfire target shooting. Operator error. I have done nothing special to protect from weather and hunted for days on end in downpours without reloading. I do swear by RWS #11 caps. And loose powder. At least as good as 209 primers. And I don't bring my rifle into a hot house in the evening when I've been in really cold weather.
I'm so confident that my muzzleloader will work when I want it to that I don't even bring a possibilities bag. I only bring my speed loaders.
Post by: huntnfmly on February 24, 2023, 01:47:39 PM
Tried the peeps. Hated it in the timber. Took it off and went back to open.
When it comes to misfires I have had exactly 0 in over 25 years while actually hunting. Originally used a Wolverine. Then a Bighorn for the last 15 or so years. Did have 1 misfire target shooting. Operator error. I have done nothing special to protect from weather and hunted for days on end in downpours without reloading. I do swear by RWS #11 caps. And loose powder. At least as good as 209 primers. And I don't bring my rifle into a hot house in the evening when I've been in really cold weather.
I'm so confident that my muzzleloader will work when I want it to that I don't even bring a possibilities bag. I only bring my speed loaders.
My youngest daughter has the wolverine and the other has a bighorn both great as posted above x2 on the #11 and loose never a problem and we never bring them into a warm house either
Post by: haftard on February 24, 2023, 01:57:32 PM
#2 bullet selection. i love the knight bloodline bullets. this things are killer. if i could not buy them, like how idaho and oregon you have to shoot true to boar bullets, i would find something monolithic. weather that be something hardcast lead or solid coper.
#3 keep your primers dry. the 209s are pretty reliable and water resistant. on the range ive pulled them out of puddles and the gun would go off just fine. but you never want to do that in a hunting situation.
#4 go sight the damn thing in on paper. too many guys dont do this and its sad.
#5 have fun.
#6 stay safe.
#7 modern muzzleloaders can handle a lot of pressure..... like alot. you dont want to double load, but in my experience they will shoot just fine. now dont go doing this. Do not put smokeless power in them either. even tho in my experience they will shoot just fine..... but dont do that. accualy forget tip #7 completely.
Post by: Fidelk on February 24, 2023, 02:32:44 PM
Post by: Farmer72 on February 24, 2023, 03:02:11 PM
Is it legal to hunt in WA with a muzzle loader using 209 primers? I have a ML that I bought years ago and never used as it wasn't legal to hunt with 209 primers at that time.
Short answer.
Yes it is.
Post by: Fidelk on February 24, 2023, 03:06:23 PM
Is it legal to hunt in WA with a muzzle loader using 209 primers? I have a ML that I bought years ago and never used as it wasn't legal to hunt with 209 primers at that time.
Short answer.
Yes it is.
Thank you, sir.
Post by: Freedumb88 on February 25, 2023, 01:55:00 AM
Post by: Freedumb88 on February 25, 2023, 01:57:30 AM
I have a disc extreme thumbhole 50 cal with everything you need bullets, powder, primers, etc for 450 just pm me if interested. Also comes with a Vortex 1X scope new in the box if that ever becomes legal. Also has Williams sights on it.ill keep this in mind i have to get another howa 1500 308 before i buy anything else and before the wife notices it was gotten rid of.
Post by: huntnfmly on February 25, 2023, 08:13:41 AM
thanks for all the advice guys ill look into your recommendations. i was leaning towards the g4 one because they advertise it as "the most accurate muzzleloader on the market" and its dirt cheap, but you get what you pay for and I dont want something thats going to be full of rust
Don’t get caught up and think you have to pay an arm and a leg to get a good muzzleloader too many people think that
The one you’re looking at will work great
As for the rust keep it clean and it will last forever have fun
Post by: haftard on February 27, 2023, 02:07:44 PM
thanks for all the advice guys ill look into your recommendations. i was leaning towards the g4 one because they advertise it as "the most accurate muzzleloader on the market" and its dirt cheap, but you get what you pay for and I dont want something thats going to be full of rustits hard to belive that the g4 would be more accurate then the fierce.
Post by: Ricochet on February 27, 2023, 02:36:32 PM
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Post by: Gettin Birdie on February 27, 2023, 04:32:37 PM