Post by: Tight Spin on March 02, 2023, 12:50:43 PM
Post by: birddogdad on March 02, 2023, 01:02:32 PM
I was given some black cod. I have never cooked it or eaten it.. Looking for a recipe. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Larry
its a nice white fish, pretty much any way you already cook those .. ling, rock ect..
Post by: jay.sharkbait on March 02, 2023, 01:08:01 PM
Post by: 92xj on March 02, 2023, 01:11:58 PM
Med heat cast iron. A touch of cooking oil/butter/. Not a lot at all. The fish will give off tons of oil while cooking.
Skin side down for 75% of the cook, to get the skin super crisp. lightly coat flesh with some blackening seasoning.
Once the fish is 75% cooked, flip and cook till done.
I temp mine and pull around 135. You will see all the flakes separate when cooked.
Plate with skin up. This will keep is crisp while you walk to the table and eat it.
Post by: MR5x5 on March 02, 2023, 05:08:26 PM
Scale the fillet.
Pan sear skin side down hot - hot with oil. Think crispy skin which will be super tasty.
Flip and sear flesh side - figure 90/10 split between skin side a flesh side down.
Keep skin side "up" always after it is seared.
Brown some butter.
Add honey to taste. Maybe some Pepper powder...
Drizzle butter/honey mix on the plated, skin side up, fish.
If you get it right, the skin will be crispy and you will be happy!
Post by: PKC on March 03, 2023, 08:26:26 AM
https://honest-food.net/smoked-sablefish-recipe/
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 03, 2023, 09:04:54 AM
Post by: Angry Perch on March 03, 2023, 09:21:07 AM
Post by: Skillet on March 03, 2023, 09:21:46 AM
In fact, SPC (the co-operative I belong to) features black-cod in their direct-to-consumer sales every March. I just got off the phone with Kendall, the main retail guy there, and he confirmed they have inventory and are currently running a discount online. They have smoked black cod available too.
This ends up being a really good deal for anybody who used the discount code I worked out with them for our group, since our additional discounts are on top of their already-discounted price. For details on how to make the most of that program check out this thread -
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,271831.msg3689886.html#msg3689886 (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,271831.msg3689886.html#msg3689886)
A few HuntWa folks have used the code and picked up their fish themselves to maximize the benefit, so it sounds like it's working out as planned.
SPC is still doing the cross-promotion with the Naked Wine company and providing $100 coupon codes to their store in your box.
Post by: 206 on March 03, 2023, 11:49:56 AM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 03, 2023, 01:34:59 PM
Post by: 206 on March 03, 2023, 02:35:45 PM
I believe Costco fish is farm raised. Not dogging it, but I do like supporting Alaskan fisherman and buying wild whenever possible.
I did not know that. Explains the almost too much fat in the fish IMO.
Post by: Skillet on March 03, 2023, 03:37:03 PM
I believe Costco fish is farm raised. Not dogging it, but I do like supporting Alaskan fisherman and buying wild whenever possible.
I did not know that. Explains the almost too much fat in the fish IMO.
That's just how all black cod is, and why most of it went overseas. Americans love their halibut and gray cod, which are relatively lean cuts of whitefish. Black cod is very high in natural oils and fat, that's the beauty of it, and Americans are learning the value of it, though slowly.
Those fish you found in Costco were likely fresh Washington fish, which are typically a bit smaller than those we have in AK. The fish we use for the portions are much, much bigger, and the price goes up quickly with black cod the bigger they get. A 5#-up carcass in AK is worth more to the boat this year than you paid retail for the smaller fish last year. The retail prices for black cod are slowly recovering as well since Asia is in much better shape financially then they were over the last few years, so I'd expect the prices to be up across the board.
A big bonus for buying whole fresh black cod, though, is that the frame (typically about 20% of the weight of a head-off carcass) make for awesome crab bait. Fold em up and stuff them in your bait cage. :tup:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 03, 2023, 04:13:05 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 03, 2023, 07:19:00 PM
To the best of my knowledge, there are no viable farming operations for black cod at the moment. I might be wrong though. There was a tribe in WA that was looking at trying it a few years ago, not sure if they got anywhere with it. BC might have a farming operation, wouldn't suprise me to learn if they did.I believe Costco fish is farm raised. Not dogging it, but I do like supporting Alaskan fisherman and buying wild whenever possible.
I did not know that. Explains the almost too much fat in the fish IMO.
That's just how all black cod is, and why most of it went overseas. Americans love their halibut and gray cod, which are relatively lean cuts of whitefish. Black cod is very high in natural oils and fat, that's the beauty of it, and Americans are learning the value of it, though slowly.
Those fish you found in Costco were likely fresh Washington fish, which are typically a bit smaller than those we have in AK. The fish we use for the portions are much, much bigger, and the price goes up quickly with black cod the bigger they get. A 5#-up carcass in AK is worth more to the boat this year than you paid retail for the smaller fish last year. The retail prices for black cod are slowly recovering as well since Asia is in much better shape financially then they were over the last few years, so I'd expect the prices to be up across the board.
A big bonus for buying whole fresh black cod, though, is that the frame (typically about 20% of the weight of a head-off carcass) make for awesome crab bait. Fold em up and stuff them in your bait cage. :tup:
The black cod I saw at Costco said farm raised on the package. I was really surprised… around 10 years ago we were getting 9+ dollars a pound for black cod in AK. Those were the days! 43,000 cut pound trip of W Yak was $$$$.
Post by: Stein on March 03, 2023, 07:21:28 PM
I can say Skillet's black cod is my favorite fish there is. I hear he hand massages each one just like Kobe beef. That's the rumor anyway.
Post by: Skillet on March 03, 2023, 07:47:11 PM
The black cod I saw at Costco said farm raised on the package. I was really surprised… around 10 years ago we were getting 9+ dollars a pound for black cod in AK. Those were the days! 43,000 cut pound trip of W Yak was $$$$.
Nice trip! Crew share for 8 days was what... $15K?? That was with Dave on the Angelique? He's still kicking here in Sitka, but not longlining any more. Jeff on the Mirage took over all those pounds.
Post by: Skillet on March 03, 2023, 07:48:46 PM
I like Costco's beef for what it is, but I don't touch their fish.
I can say Skillet's black cod is my favorite fish there is. I hear he hand massages each one just like Kobe beef. That's the rumor anyway.
And I sing every one a lullaby. Right before I stab its gills with a Vicky.
Post by: RB on March 03, 2023, 10:09:38 PM
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on March 04, 2023, 01:26:44 AM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 04, 2023, 02:07:14 AM
The black cod I saw at Costco said farm raised on the package. I was really surprised… around 10 years ago we were getting 9+ dollars a pound for black cod in AK. Those were the days! 43,000 cut pound trip of W Yak was $$$$.
Nice trip! Crew share for 8 days was what... $15K?? That was with Dave on the Angelique? He's still kicking here in Sitka, but not longlining any more. Jeff on the Mirage took over all those pounds.
That was on the Vansee. We did 42k round pounds with Dave my first full share trip, it was 12k crew share in 3 days. I figure Jeff would weasel those IFQs away someday. Say hi to Dave for me
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 04, 2023, 07:09:00 AM
I believe Costco fish is farm raised. Not dogging it, but I do like supporting Alaskan fisherman and buying wild whenever possible.
I did not know that. Explains the almost too much fat in the fish IMO.
The fat is the nature of the fish.
Everyone talks about the omega 3 of sockeye salmon and how it’s good for your heart. King salmon has twice as much and black cod has even more than king salmon.
Black cod is a truly incredible source of nutrition, especially for heart-disease riddled Americans.
Post by: Tight Spin on March 04, 2023, 11:03:26 AM
Post by: 206 on March 05, 2023, 08:54:18 AM
Bought a really nice thick (from end to end) cod fillet for 8.99 lb. Couldn't pass this piece.
Post by: WSU on March 05, 2023, 09:05:15 AM
Post by: Fishhuntmike on March 05, 2023, 12:28:17 PM
Some of the black rockfish I have caught (the ones with medium scales and look like a black "smallmouth bass") were kind of mushy. I like some of the other species of rockfish better, such as the yellowtail rockfish. I also like lingcod better (not a rockfish or cod but a greenling). The reason im posting is im curious what exactly from costco is being sold? Sorry for my confusion.
Post by: Angry Perch on March 06, 2023, 09:43:46 AM
Saw it at Costco yesterday. Small fresh Wild fillets @ $10.99. pass
Bought a really nice thick (from end to end) cod fillet for 8.99 lb. Couldn't pass this piece.
Was that cod, or black cod?
Post by: luvmystang67 on March 06, 2023, 10:13:06 AM
They had chilean seabass for $17.99 during covid, and I bought a truckload of that!
Haven't seen it in my costco in Idaho yet.
@Skillet - thanks for keeping the deals posted, my chops water looking at them and maybe if I've got a westside trip planned for ferndale I'll set something up in the future.
Post by: asmith on March 06, 2023, 10:23:26 AM
You either like it or you dont. Im the only one in my family that likes it and I cant get enough of it.
Post by: luvmystang67 on March 06, 2023, 10:41:22 AM
I bought black cod from Skillet several years ago and it is now my favorite salt water fish, even better than halibut. I season mine with salt/pepper/garlic/lemon pepper, add some diced fresh shallots on it. Then pan sear in a cast iron on med/high heat, skin down. Add a slab of butter and start basting it with the fat/butter mixture till about half way cooked, then finish in a 400 oven. Just toss the entire cast iron pan in there.
You either like it or you dont. Im the only one in my family that likes it and I cant get enough of it.
The rest of your family has bad taste!
Post by: asmith on March 06, 2023, 10:43:13 AM
I bought black cod from Skillet several years ago and it is now my favorite salt water fish, even better than halibut. I season mine with salt/pepper/garlic/lemon pepper, add some diced fresh shallots on it. Then pan sear in a cast iron on med/high heat, skin down. Add a slab of butter and start basting it with the fat/butter mixture till about half way cooked, then finish in a 400 oven. Just toss the entire cast iron pan in there.
You either like it or you dont. Im the only one in my family that likes it and I cant get enough of it.
The rest of your family has bad taste!
I concur!
Post by: Fishhuntmike on March 06, 2023, 11:44:54 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 06, 2023, 11:54:27 AM
Post by: Skillet on March 06, 2023, 12:19:33 PM
Yeah, I mean not to trounce skillet's thread here, but if costco is selling black cod/sablefish for $10/lb, I'm going to buy a small truckload.
They had chilean seabass for $17.99 during covid, and I bought a truckload of that!
Haven't seen it in my costco in Idaho yet.
@Skillet - thanks for keeping the deals posted, my chops water looking at them and maybe if I've got a westside trip planned for ferndale I'll set something up in the future.
Hey no worries at all, this isn't my thread!
Fish prices have been very interesting thing since Covid hit. Especially the prices of predominantly export market fish, like black cod.
Here is an excerpt from my Co-op's marketing update, just released today. I think it tells a good part of the story, and gives you an insider's view of the fish world-
"All of our sablefish is sold at this point. We are one of the few processors that aren’t underwater on container loads of last years’ fish. Our halibut inventory is down to the bare minimum. As we exit the fiscal year, we are working closely with the accounting team to value the remaining inventory accurately. We would like to finish out a successful year with no surprises and send the final settlement checks out to the fleet with confidence and pride.
As sablefish quotas go up, the major market in Japan has more options to buy inventory and we end up with lower wholesale prices. The yen has recovered slightly, but currently is at the worst exchange rate in 30 years, and still has a way to go before we are back at traditional levels. There is a large volume of BC inventory in Japan at this time. That will have to clear out before new product is considered this spring. The sablefish year class of 2014 is expected hit the 4/5 size range in a big way this year. That value of the 4/5 size is expected to be down considerably from the closing prices of 2022. The lower price for 4/5’s will get them back in the price range of Japan and China. This will help find a home for the big volumes we expect this year. Our fillet crew will be a big part of getting more out of the 4/5’s. We have strong domestic fillet markets. They prefer the larger sizes when available. Our plan is to focus on fillets and portions as time allows at the plant. Fishing is expected to be very good on the opener. The plant is well setup with excellent bait sold at cost and a crew ready to offload your fish."
If there's one thing I like almost as much as talking about fishing, it's talking about fish markets. There is a LOT that goes on behind the scenes to land that $10.99 black cod at Costco... if it is decent quality and not filets off of the "pickles", it sounds like a great deal. Most likely these are 2022 fish they're trying to move out before the 2023 fish start hitting the ice.
If you're willing to put in some work and take a little risk, it's a definite "buy" in my book at that price. Black cod re-freezes really well, just freeze it fast if you plan on storing it. Spread it out in your freezer after vacuum packing and you should have a great product for months to come. :tup:
Post by: 206 on March 06, 2023, 01:06:18 PM
Saw it at Costco yesterday. Small fresh Wild fillets @ $10.99. pass
Bought a really nice thick (from end to end) cod fillet for 8.99 lb. Couldn't pass this piece.
Black cod $10.99
Gadus macrocephalus is the name for Pacific cod (googled that up) 8.99 Pacific cod was previously frozen and thawed. I would have prefered to thaw it out myself.
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 06, 2023, 03:43:42 PM
Saw it at Costco yesterday. Small fresh Wild fillets @ $10.99. pass
Bought a really nice thick (from end to end) cod fillet for 8.99 lb. Couldn't pass this piece.
Black cod $10.99
Gadus macrocephalus is the name for Pacific cod (googled that up) 8.99 Pacific cod was previously frozen and thawed. I would have prefered to thaw it out myself.
That is different from Sable. Anoplopoma fimbria is the black cod.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 06, 2023, 04:58:52 PM
Saw it at Costco yesterday. Small fresh Wild fillets @ $10.99. pass
Bought a really nice thick (from end to end) cod fillet for 8.99 lb. Couldn't pass this piece.
Black cod $10.99
Gadus macrocephalus is the name for Pacific cod (googled that up) 8.99 Pacific cod was previously frozen and thawed. I would have prefered to thaw it out myself.
That is different from Sable. Anoplopoma fimbria is the black cod.
P Cod is just fish and chips stuff. The stuff they catch on deadliest catch in the pots. We ate more P Cod on the boats up there than halibut and black cod though. Salted with butter.
Post by: bearhunter99 on June 09, 2023, 10:19:27 PM
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Post by: fowl smacker on June 10, 2023, 07:27:48 AM
We caught a few black cod out of Neah a couple weeks ago. When they filleted the cod they took the skin off. Would they still be able to be smoked without the skin on? ThanksYes, just place it on one of the fine mesh mats for your BBQ. You can find them in most BBQ accessory aisles.
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