Post by: greenhead_killer on March 07, 2023, 10:11:34 AM
id post the article but now sure how.
Post by: idaho guy on March 07, 2023, 08:17:21 PM
Post by: HillbillyDelux on March 07, 2023, 08:26:23 PM
Post by: pickardjw on March 08, 2023, 06:46:22 AM
https://wyofile.com/wyomings-soon-to-drop-shed-hunting-rules-set-new-precedent/
Post by: elkboy on March 08, 2023, 07:17:48 AM
4 points (on average) needed to draw the whitetail antler hunting permit, $6.60 application fee.
6 points (on average) needed to draw the mule deer antler hunting permit, $6.60 application fee.
(blacktail still OTC- who wants to crunch through the jungle like that...)
10 points for elk, $13.20 application fee...
OIL for moose...
;)
Post by: Tikka Bird Dog on March 08, 2023, 08:29:22 AM
Post by: idaho guy on March 08, 2023, 04:10:10 PM
if you're going a state or two away to shed hunt... I do every year to find sheds, between fuel, food, camping, lodging or what have you, what is 21 more dollars. just like buying a two-day license to fish, paying your conservation fee or adding an aquatic invasive species fee.... just my opinion.
21 bucks is a drop in the bucket. The cost is not a big deal to me. It’s the thought of more regulation and buying another permit to do something in the woods. In Idaho ,I purchase every year, a bear bait permit, hound hunter permit, muzzleloader permit, archery permit, salmon and steelhead permit, migratory bird permit and found out you are supposed to buy a rock picking permit lol. They are flirting with a huckleberry picking permit if you pick over a certain amount recreational ( there’s a permit if you sell them already). The permits are all in addition to hunting and trapping licenses and tags. Enough is enough, seems like the more people move here the more permits they come up with. I almost forgot I also have a pond permit required from idfg for the hole I dug on my property that has water in it 😂
Post by: trophyhunt on March 08, 2023, 04:24:24 PM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on March 17, 2023, 08:09:12 PM
Post by: 2MANY on March 17, 2023, 08:21:53 PM
Post by: buckfvr on March 18, 2023, 09:28:37 AM
Past time to say **** no. :twocents:
Post by: 1Guy on March 20, 2023, 06:50:04 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 20, 2023, 06:53:49 AM
Whats another 21$ ?? Well its a continuance of chipping away, eroding our activities all taken with baby steps so most folks dont understand its just the approach to their agenda to end it all. Little here, little there, too many guys are OK with this little thing (21$) and that little thing but the cumulative effect of this bit at a time merely slightly prolongs reaching THEIR agenda, but meets it none the less.:yeah:
Past time to say **** no. :twocents:
Post by: BuckDuck77 on March 20, 2023, 07:33:28 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on March 20, 2023, 09:48:30 AM
At the same time, shed hunting has gotten out of hand. These deer and elk have just made it thru winter. One could argue they are in the roughest shape they'll be all year and the woods are full of snowmobiles, tracked 4-wheelers chasing elk around non stop.
IF this state was concerned about the welfare of our elk, I'd support limiting the harassment they are currently enduring....but we know thats not the case.
Elk antlers are soon to be antient artifacts.....
Post by: Dhoey07 on March 20, 2023, 11:35:51 AM
My kid went on a ride along with a game warden and he said that something similar is in the works in WA as well. The warden had mentioned a shed season to him. But from what’s been happening state wide I’m sure there is a fee to coincide with the “season”.
Rest easy....just think of it like purchasing a carbon credit to offset the harm you are doing to nature........
Post by: boneaddict on March 20, 2023, 12:48:30 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on March 20, 2023, 01:11:29 PM
Post by: KFhunter on March 20, 2023, 01:37:49 PM
Sheds are far and few between here, I’ll continue walking around getting my exercise
Post by: kellama2001 on March 21, 2023, 07:41:42 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on March 21, 2023, 07:45:14 AM
Increased regulation won't do anything to help the problem in my opinion. All it will do is put more money in the regulator's pockets and keep the law abiding shed hunters out of the woods until later. The a holes that harass wildlife (already illegal) and chase the animals hoping for fresh sheds will continue to do so, regardless of seasons or permits. Just my :twocents::yeah:
Post by: bobcat on March 21, 2023, 07:51:07 AM
Post by: LDennis24 on March 21, 2023, 08:04:53 AM
reading an article, short one, in eastmans magazine today. sounds like wyoming is going to charge a 21.00 fee for a nr shed hunting conservation stamp. they also proposed legislation to allow residents a weeks worth or nr free shed hunting in the beginning of the season. both passed unanimously and doesnt appear its not going to go into effect. im guessing that wyoming is going to start buttoning up everything here sooner than later against nr everthing :dunno:
id post the article but now sure how.
You can thank the corner crossers for that...
Post by: hunter399 on March 21, 2023, 10:19:02 AM
What actually should be done is to make it illegal to buy and sell antlers. The commercial market for them is what is causing the problems.I agree.
Post by: hunter399 on March 21, 2023, 10:24:55 AM
Deer ,elk,moose,
But it's ok as long as you pay us.
That's part of the problem ,I thinks.
Someone always willing to let you harm the resource for a price.
I agree ,no market value.
Alot of this would go away.
I'm not buying no shed permit.
Berry permit
Mushroom permit.
Maybe they should hand them out for free.
Just to bring awareness to times of year that is not harmful to animals.
Post by: hunter399 on March 21, 2023, 10:38:05 AM
Give shed permits for free.
Enforce the times of year that it's appropriate to shed hunt.
Should be free with licence purchase.
Post by: Mtnwalker on March 21, 2023, 10:47:15 AM
reading an article, short one, in eastmans magazine today. sounds like wyoming is going to charge a 21.00 fee for a nr shed hunting conservation stamp. they also proposed legislation to allow residents a weeks worth or nr free shed hunting in the beginning of the season. both passed unanimously and doesnt appear its not going to go into effect. im guessing that wyoming is going to start buttoning up everything here sooner than later against nr everthing :dunno:
id post the article but now sure how.
You can thank the corner crossers for that...
:rolleyes:
Post by: KFhunter on March 21, 2023, 11:51:35 AM
Next up a permit to gather shrooms? Huckleberries?
Post by: nwmein199 on March 21, 2023, 12:05:43 PM
reading an article, short one, in eastmans magazine today. sounds like wyoming is going to charge a 21.00 fee for a nr shed hunting conservation stamp. they also proposed legislation to allow residents a weeks worth or nr free shed hunting in the beginning of the season. both passed unanimously and doesnt appear its not going to go into effect. im guessing that wyoming is going to start buttoning up everything here sooner than later against nr everthing :dunno:
id post the article but now sure how.
You can thank the corner crossers for that...
Whats the reasoning for thanking the "corner crossers"? Were they non-resident shed hunters that corner crossed?
Post by: hunter399 on March 21, 2023, 12:47:47 PM
Why not a permit to buy and resell sheds before they do a gathering permit?It's coming
Next up a permit to gather shrooms? Huckleberries?
And I'm not paying. :chuckle:
Post by: Platensek-po on March 21, 2023, 01:40:33 PM
reading an article, short one, in eastmans magazine today. sounds like wyoming is going to charge a 21.00 fee for a nr shed hunting conservation stamp. they also proposed legislation to allow residents a weeks worth or nr free shed hunting in the beginning of the season. both passed unanimously and doesnt appear its not going to go into effect. im guessing that wyoming is going to start buttoning up everything here sooner than later against nr everthing :dunno:
id post the article but now sure how.
You can thank the corner crossers for that...
Whats the reasoning for thanking the "corner crossers"? Were they non-resident shed hunters that corner crossed?
Dont feed the troll.
Post by: huntnfmly on March 21, 2023, 02:10:10 PM
reading an article, short one, in eastmans magazine today. sounds like wyoming is going to charge a 21.00 fee for a nr shed hunting conservation stamp. they also proposed legislation to allow residents a weeks worth or nr free shed hunting in the beginning of the season. both passed unanimously and doesnt appear its not going to go into effect. im guessing that wyoming is going to start buttoning up everything here sooner than later against nr everthing :dunno:
id post the article but now sure how.
You can thank the corner crossers for that...
Whats the reasoning for thanking the "corner crossers"? Were they non-resident shed hunters that corner crossed?
Dont feed the troll.
^^^^^This
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 21, 2023, 02:14:58 PM
I see the money grab in full display.
At the same time, shed hunting has gotten out of hand. These deer and elk have just made it thru winter. One could argue they are in the roughest shape they'll be all year and the woods are full of snowmobiles, tracked 4-wheelers chasing elk around non stop.
IF this state was concerned about the welfare of our elk, I'd support limiting the harassment they are currently enduring....but we know thats not the case.
Elk antlers are soon to be antient artifacts.....
These are two distinct topics. The money grab and pressuring animals in their wintering grounds. I believe a reasonable Fish and Game department would adopt policies to keep pregnant wintering ungulates from being stressed by shed hunters. WA will undoubtedly adopt a new fee/tax on shed hunting because there are never enough revenue sources. Whether or not they tie it to taking pressure off the wintering animals is secondary to the extremists. The Commission really doesn't care that much about the critters themselves, only their non-hunting agenda. If stressing pregnant wintering animals causes higher mortality, which would in-turn necessitate limiting or eliminating hunting, they'd likely support it, 5-4.
Post by: nwmein199 on March 21, 2023, 02:27:29 PM
reading an article, short one, in eastmans magazine today. sounds like wyoming is going to charge a 21.00 fee for a nr shed hunting conservation stamp. they also proposed legislation to allow residents a weeks worth or nr free shed hunting in the beginning of the season. both passed unanimously and doesnt appear its not going to go into effect. im guessing that wyoming is going to start buttoning up everything here sooner than later against nr everthing :dunno:
id post the article but now sure how.
You can thank the corner crossers for that...
Whats the reasoning for thanking the "corner crossers"? Were they non-resident shed hunters that corner crossed?
Dont feed the troll.
^^^^^This
Who is the troll?
I honestly would like to know why corner crossers are the reason for shed hunting permits
Post by: Platensek-po on March 21, 2023, 02:37:04 PM
reading an article, short one, in eastmans magazine today. sounds like wyoming is going to charge a 21.00 fee for a nr shed hunting conservation stamp. they also proposed legislation to allow residents a weeks worth or nr free shed hunting in the beginning of the season. both passed unanimously and doesnt appear its not going to go into effect. im guessing that wyoming is going to start buttoning up everything here sooner than later against nr everthing :dunno:
id post the article but now sure how.
You can thank the corner crossers for that...
Whats the reasoning for thanking the "corner crossers"? Were they non-resident shed hunters that corner crossed?
Dont feed the troll.
^^^^^This
Who is the troll?
I honestly would like to know why corner crossers are the reason for shed hunting permits
They don’t. Dennis is still probably upset about the corner crossing thread and is now trying to stir it up here cause just like in that thread he believes everything has to do with corner crossing and his personal grievances are all due to others being jealous and bla bla bla. Seriously don’t feed the troll.
Post by: LDennis24 on March 21, 2023, 05:14:57 PM
Post by: Jake Dogfish on March 21, 2023, 05:47:48 PM
You guys are so smart. The corner crossing situation has brought unwanted attention to Wyoming and it's making people who live there get tired of people who don't live their showing up to hunt, or shed hunt, the socialist government properties. Blah blah blah, "I'm a Republican until it comes time to hunt then I want socialist public hunting rights and I want the government to impose a socialist program like eminent domain to gain access to public socialist land." Blah blah blah. Prove me wrong. Wyoming doesn't want you.This is America. I could care less what Wyoming, Idaho or Olympia wants.
Post by: Twispriver on March 21, 2023, 07:06:24 PM
Post by: Platensek-po on March 21, 2023, 09:42:37 PM
You guys are so smart. The corner crossing situation has brought unwanted attention to Wyoming and it's making people who live there get tired of people who don't live their showing up to hunt, or shed hunt, the socialist government properties. Blah blah blah, "I'm a Republican until it comes time to hunt then I want socialist public hunting rights and I want the government to impose a socialist program like eminent domain to gain access to public socialist land." Blah blah blah. Prove me wrong. Wyoming doesn't want you.
:lol4:
Post by: hunter399 on March 22, 2023, 08:23:38 AM
Your gonna need 5000 discover passes. :chuckle:
Post by: idahohuntr on March 22, 2023, 09:01:39 AM
Agreed. Several neighboring states are adopting regulations to better protect wintering ungulates. That is reasonable in my mind and I support those efforts - if a state pursues these restrictions as a money grab I'd not support that portion. Like most laws - enforcement may not be simple or easy, but it's better than doing nothing. Bans on selling antlers would not solve the problem IMO...still tons of people would be out trying to gather antlers during critical periods in the winter.
These are two distinct topics. The money grab and pressuring animals in their wintering grounds. I believe a reasonable Fish and Game department would adopt policies to keep pregnant wintering ungulates from being stressed by shed hunters.
Post by: idaho guy on March 22, 2023, 10:37:45 AM
Agreed. Several neighboring states are adopting regulations to better protect wintering ungulates. That is reasonable in my mind and I support those efforts - if a state pursues these restrictions as a money grab I'd not support that portion. Like most laws - enforcement may not be simple or easy, but it's better than doing nothing. Bans on selling antlers would not solve the problem IMO...still tons of people would be out trying to gather antlers during critical periods in the winter.
These are two distinct topics. The money grab and pressuring animals in their wintering grounds. I believe a reasonable Fish and Game department would adopt policies to keep pregnant wintering ungulates from being stressed by shed hunters.
We are our own worst enemy. If horn hunters would self regulate we wouldn’t need any type of rules, restrictions or seasons. The guys trying to get famous on social media really kind of ruined shed hunting. What used to be a relaxing time in the woods has become a competition. Eric cheeser number 1 offender in my opinion but many more like him. I hate the idea of more regulation and rules but if it’s necessary to protect the wildlife I agree 110 percent. Making selling antlers illegal would just create more value in the antler on the black market. Basically I agree with everything you said but it just sucks that we have to over regulate everything. It’s our own fault but usually the minority is the problem. I will NEVER buy a permit to pick up a naturally shed antler in the middle of nowhere. That’s just going too far.
Post by: FamilyMan01 on April 08, 2023, 04:53:23 PM
Post by: huntnfmly on May 03, 2023, 07:39:46 PM
Post by: Slamadoo on May 03, 2023, 09:26:04 PM
Ridiculous though that a few a$$holes ruin it for everyone.
On the other hand though, I do think that it's wrong that certain user groups can go in whenever while the rest of us are supposed to wait for the May 1st opener. The playing field needs to be level, one way or the other.
Post by: GASoline71 on May 03, 2023, 09:38:59 PM
Gary
Post by: Slamadoo on May 03, 2023, 09:43:32 PM
Post by: bigtex on May 03, 2023, 09:59:19 PM
Bozeman Man Pleads Guilty to Felony Charge
Release Date: Apr 21, 2023
Unlawful Collection of Shed Elk Antlers
Jackson, Wyo., April 21, 2023— On October 25, 2022, a Bozeman, Montana resident, formerly of Jackson, WY, was sentenced on a felony Lacey Act charge, along with federal misdemeanor probation violations in connection with illegal collection of shed elk antlers on the Bridger-Teton National Forest.
An investigation initiated by U.S. Forest Service Law Enforcement and Investigations in April 2021, revealed Joshua Anders Rae of Bozeman, Montana, was collecting shed elk antlers outside legal dates for areas west of the continental divide in Wyoming. In April 2021, Law Enforcement Officers patrolling a winter range closure outside Jackson, WY encountered Rae hiding illegally collected antlers under the cover of darkness. The longstanding closure was established to protect wintering deer and elk. Rae, who entered the closure by traveling cross country a significant distance, was present in the area the day before the legal opening date, thus depriving numerous shed hunting enthusiasts of equal enjoyment and opportunity during the highly regulated opening day event outside Jackson, WY.
The investigation revealed Rae was the owner/ operator of “Old West Antlers,” an on-line elk antler dog chew retailer, which also provided elk antler dog chew retail display cases to businesses in the mountain west. Rae had cut approximately 44 pounds of illegally collected elk antlers into short sections, some of which were consistent with those sold through his online enterprise. The April 2021 violations occurred while Rae was on federal probation for a 2019 misdemeanor Lacey Act conviction for the same offense in the same area. In the previous case Rae was sentenced to pay $15,000 in restitution to the Wyoming Game and Fish Department, subjected to a 5-year ban from entering the National Elk Refuge, as well as Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks, in addition to 5 years’ probation and a 5 year worldwide ban on hunting.
The latest investigation revealed Rae had yet to pay any of the court ordered restitution on the previous case. In March 2022, Rae was indicted by a federal grand jury for a felony violation of the Lacey Act, a federal law regulating the illegal take and commercialization of wildlife and wildlife parts. He was additionally charged with two misdemeanor federal violations for entering a closed area and collection of shed antlers out of season. In July 2022, Rae entered a guilty plea in U.S. District Court for a violation of the Lacey Act. During the October sentencing, he entered a second guilty plea for probation violations. Rae was sentenced to 90 days of home confinement, 5 years of supervised felony probation, a 5-year ban from entering federal public lands, as well as a 5-year ban on hunting in accordance with the interstate wildlife violator compact.
This case was investigated by the U.S. Forest Service in partnership with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and the Wyoming Game and Fish Department. The Bridger-Teton National Forest would like to remind shed antler collectors to observe all state and federal regulations pertaining to season dates, and closures for protection of wintering wildlife.
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