Post by: Ridgeratt on March 15, 2023, 12:47:21 PM
Guess I won't buy an electric car.
Interesting story
From an anonymous State Trooper:
I’m not a fan of all electric vehicles. Too many variables affecting battery consumption. Definitely not suited for cold climates. The following experience just cements my distaste for EV’s, especially Tesla's.
I get sent to a motorist assist the other day, at the start of our snow storm. Tesla on the side of the interstate, dead battery. So I arrive on scene and the occupants have the right-front door open. They tell me that they can’t open any other doors, because the battery is dead. Sure enough. Can’t open the doors from inside or outside.
The driver also can’t get her license out of the glove box where she put it during their trip. Because the glovebox opens electronically… and the battery is dead. You actually have to use the computer in the center of the dash to open the glovebox.
They said they had 10% battery left, should’ve been plenty to get from that location to the charging station nearby. Then all of a sudden the whole car shut off and they coasted to the shoulder.
So now I have to find them a tow. No one wants to tow EV’s. Finally found one company to do it. 8 mile trip to the charging station in Tomah. $1,000! Normal vehicle on the flatbed would’ve been $150.
So now we’re at the Tesla superchargers. Guess what. Can’t open the f’n charging port because the battery is dead!!! The ports open, you guessed it, electronically!!! <https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t1/1/16/1f926_1f3fc_200d_2642.png> <https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t82/1/16/1f92c.png> . And we also can’t open the doors now (had to close the one open door when it was loaded onto the wrecker). The owners manual is in the on board computer, but the battery is dead.
I got the occupants to a store where they’d be warm while calling the rental company to figure out how to charge this POS, so I’m not sure of the outcome. I had to leave for a crash report.
I’ll stick with my dinosaur burner.
(Just my little add-on - anyone who buys an electric car deserves it!!!!!)
Post by: trophyhunt on March 15, 2023, 12:55:06 PM
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Post by: Angry Perch on March 15, 2023, 02:34:37 PM
Post by: baker5150 on March 15, 2023, 02:42:15 PM
You can manually open doors. Also, my understanding is than none of this works off the main power battery. It runs off a separate 12V battery that would (should) still have plenty of power if the driver battery is toast. There are also jump lugs so you can hook up jumper cables and power all of that stuff. that being said, no thanks on the EV for me.
:yeah:
Separate power source and manual operation. (On tesla, not sure on others)
Anyone ever had a key fob battery die on a push-to-start vehicle?
How do you start the car?
Ever had a battery go dead on a late model Ford Explorer? If you have, you know the pain.
People are just too lazy or too stupid to educate themselves on what do in an adverse situation. That, or owners manuals are too hard to read.
Post by: CP on March 15, 2023, 03:23:17 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on March 15, 2023, 06:36:38 PM
You can manually open doors. Also, my understanding is than none of this works off the main power battery. It runs off a separate 12V battery that would (should) still have plenty of power if the driver battery is toast. There are also jump lugs so you can hook up jumper cables and power all of that stuff. that being said, no thanks on the EV for me.
:yeah:
Separate power source and manual operation. (On tesla, not sure on others)
Anyone ever had a key fob battery die on a push-to-start vehicle?
How do you start the car?
Ever had a battery go dead on a late model Ford Explorer? If you have, you know the pain.
People are just too lazy or too stupid to educate themselves on what do in an adverse situation. That, or owners manuals are too hard to read.
Most if not all cars with a push button start have a spot to place your fob if the fob batter is weak or dead. usually in the center console.
Post by: jackelope on March 15, 2023, 10:03:26 PM
Why does it cost almost 7x more to tow an electric car which is the same size as any other car? Where’s the logic in that?
The EV battery died and the 12v battery died too? Mysteriously at the same time?
I’m not buying any electric cars anytime soon, but if we’re going to be criticizing these things, understand how they work first so you can tell fact from fiction.
Post by: jackelope on March 15, 2023, 10:12:57 PM
Come on, people!!
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on March 15, 2023, 11:00:18 PM
Post by: haftard on March 15, 2023, 11:27:11 PM
Lots of this doesn’t make sense.
Why does it cost almost 7x more to tow an electric car which is the same size as any other car? Where’s the logic in that?
The EV battery died and the 12v battery died too? Mysteriously at the same time?
I’m not buying any electric cars anytime soon, but if we’re going to be criticizing these things, understand how they work first so you can tell fact from fiction.
I’m pretty sure it’s due to the regenerative breaking systems in the car. Just pushing or trying to roll the car can mess it up and do a lot of damage.
Post by: broadhead on March 15, 2023, 11:32:38 PM
Just bought a diesel to make up for 5 teslas.:tup:
Post by: Stein on March 16, 2023, 06:09:58 AM
Post by: jackelope on March 16, 2023, 11:43:12 AM
Lots of this doesn’t make sense.
Why does it cost almost 7x more to tow an electric car which is the same size as any other car? Where’s the logic in that?
The EV battery died and the 12v battery died too? Mysteriously at the same time?
I’m not buying any electric cars anytime soon, but if we’re going to be criticizing these things, understand how they work first so you can tell fact from fiction.
I’m pretty sure it’s due to the regenerative breaking systems in the car. Just pushing or trying to roll the car can mess it up and do a lot of damage.
Tow trucks come in here every day. I’ll ask next time I see one. Also tow trucks come in here with AWD cars on dollies all the time too which would eliminate any concern for pushing or rolling. Also we push hybrids with regenerative brake systems all the time without issue.
Post by: Platensek-po on March 16, 2023, 03:23:59 PM
Post by: CP on March 16, 2023, 03:39:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TffjPTYfqkk
Post by: jackelope on March 16, 2023, 03:46:53 PM
Could it be because of the weight? I was told EVs weigh a lot more than a standard vehicle of the same size due to the batteries. It’s part of why they are expensive to register cause the state charges by weight of the vehicle.
Same truck tows them all.
Post by: baldopepper on March 16, 2023, 05:27:33 PM
Post by: Jpmiller on March 16, 2023, 07:34:58 PM
I had the key fob die on our backup diesel a few months back, that is as a huge headache and that is as just to try and get around the stupid ignition shutoff.