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Title: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 16, 2023, 01:25:54 PM
Location: Somewhere in the elk woods
Hunt Pressure Status: Minimal
Hunt: Partner hunt
Date/Time: Early OCT around 10:30ish
Tag: Muzzleloader; 3 PT (or better) bull or antlerless

Quite the morning. After moving up the draw a good mile, following a vocal herd of wapiti (two bulls and a handful of cows), you and your partner set up to call just when you’re getting to the nice benchy area you’ve determined the herd is probably bedded on. A lot happens in the next minute. Caller is 100 yards in the direction of the red arrow. Shooter is 75 yards in the direction of the blue arrow. Caller gives a few whiny cow sounds and the satellite bull you see immediately bugles and moves to get the wind of the cow he heard… Dang it! The thermals have switched that quick and are now going in the direction of the yellow arrow. You have about two seconds until its thundering hooves and crashing brush, going up up and away.

Shooter has his/her smoke pole shouldered………. shoot or no shot here?

If you're shooting, save the picture to your desktop and open in MS Paint, then place a spot, X, or whatever on the critter before you save it back to a jpg or png and add the marked up pic with your post.
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: Bullkllr on April 16, 2023, 03:03:13 PM
I'd probably need a solid rest, but it looks doable; ideally if he takes one more step with that left front leg going forward. You'd have to be confident in placing the shot tight behind the shoulder, no doubt. Hopefully stopped w/cow call, but if he moves anywhere except that 1 step forward I'd have to say no.
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: Dan-o on April 16, 2023, 05:06:57 PM
Shooting right now. 

Not even wondering. 
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: HntnFsh on April 16, 2023, 05:13:32 PM
Looks like a dead bull to me.
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: actionshooter on April 16, 2023, 09:24:08 PM
boom...
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 16, 2023, 09:34:07 PM
Agree with all of you. Time to break the bull down and start the pack out.
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: RB on April 16, 2023, 10:02:27 PM
Question, what would be an effective caliber and load for this shot? I am a modern firearm guy and know what I would do with this shot, but not with a muzzle loader.
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: JakeLand on April 17, 2023, 03:51:21 AM
Question, what would be an effective caliber and load for this shot? I am a modern firearm guy and know what I would do with this shot, but not with a muzzle loader.
110 grain blackhorn and a 250 grain  T-EZ and yep
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: jasnt on April 17, 2023, 04:16:57 AM
Purple dot is my aim point.  Right in the vital V
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: Katalla on April 17, 2023, 05:25:48 AM
My smoke pole would go Boom. With my 7mm his ear would get pierced. Lights out before he hits the ground.
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: Bullkllr on April 17, 2023, 05:48:32 AM
I was probably over thinking it since I haven't shot a muzzle loader in about 10 years.
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: RB on April 17, 2023, 06:20:38 AM
Question, what would be an effective caliber and load for this shot? I am a modern firearm guy and know what I would do with this shot, but not with a muzzle loader.
110 grain blackhorn and a 250 grain  T-EZ and yep


What caliber?
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: trophyhunt on April 17, 2023, 06:21:06 AM
If its my white river muzzy tag, I'll pass  :chuckle:  But, if otc, that purple shot looks perfect.
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: RB on April 17, 2023, 06:25:13 AM
My smoke pole would go Boom. With my 7mm his ear would get pierced. Lights out before he hits the ground.

 :yeah:

Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: JakeLand on April 17, 2023, 09:46:52 AM
Question, what would be an effective caliber and load for this shot? I am a modern firearm guy and know what I would do with this shot, but not with a muzzle loader.
110 grain blackhorn and a 250 grain  T-EZ and yep


What caliber?
knight ultra lite .50
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: Stein on April 17, 2023, 10:36:48 AM
I don't know you are going to get much better of a look than that.  I'm a bit left and up from purple, but same result.  I'd shoot that with any legal weapon I happen to have in my hand.
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: boneaddict on April 17, 2023, 11:53:58 AM
I’ll figure out how to get the dead elk from on top of my caller.   
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: Bullkllr on April 17, 2023, 12:15:49 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that left leg is a bit far back to be 'perfect' ? and you'd have to go back a little? I outlined where I see the upper leg. For a bow it sure would be, to me anyway.
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: jasnt on April 17, 2023, 08:15:38 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that left leg is a bit far back to be 'perfect' ? and you'd have to go back a little? I outlined where I see the upper leg. For a bow it sure would be, to me anyway.
yes but the bone (black) is not shielding the red heart and lungs.  My aim point is never just a double lung hit.  I want to sever the arteries that leave the top of the heart and the lungs. 
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: Bullkllr on April 17, 2023, 08:22:15 PM
yes but the bone (black) is not shielding the red heart and lungs.  My aim point is never just a double lung hit.  I want to sever the arteries that leave the top of the heart and the lungs.

 :tup:

Cool additions to the pic!
Title: Re: Shoot or No Shot 2023 - Episode #1
Post by: RB on April 17, 2023, 09:36:15 PM
Question, what would be an effective caliber and load for this shot? I am a modern firearm guy and know what I would do with this shot, but not with a muzzle loader.
110 grain blackhorn and a 250 grain  T-EZ and yep


What caliber?
knight ultra lite .50

Cool, thank you
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