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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: yorketransport on April 21, 2023, 09:55:42 PM

Title: New build time!
Post by: yorketransport on April 21, 2023, 09:55:42 PM: I've been busy with work and life, so I've been out of the shooting scene for a while. I've decided it's time for a new project, so here's what I have in mind. I want a long-range AR pistol chambered in 25 WSSM. It needs to be better than 1 MOA to 1000 yards so I can use it for elk hunting this fall. This is what I think I need:

- Billet 80% lower
- 14" barrel with a 1-7" twist
- muzzle adapter that fits an oil filter from an international T444E
- a solid pistol brace with the right length of pull to give good eye relief
- a strong, reliable foregrip
- at least 3 mags compatible with the WSSM case, 30 rounders would be good, but 20s would work too
- at least 1000 of the BlackJack 131 ACE bullets
- 1000 Fed 215 primers, although CCI 250s might work
- 250-300 pieces of new 25 WSSM brass
- Simmons 6-24x44mm ProTarget scope

I think that's all I need for now. This stuff should all be pretty easy to find, at least it was the last time I did much shooting. Let me know what you all think about this project!

Side note, are BiggerHammer and Jay.sharkbait still banned? I'd love to hear their input on this project if they're still active on here. :tup:
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: Longfield1 on April 21, 2023, 10:02:25 PM: You got until jay inslee to sign the assault weapons ban to get all the parts and assemble it. Otherwise you’ll be breaking the stupid law.
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 21, 2023, 10:25:30 PM: I think BH is on lifetime ban haven’t heard from him for years.

Good to see another of your pistol projects. I wouldn’t use 25 and elk at 1000 in the same sentence but you know that!

Those AR pistols are fun .

Like stated not sure whats gonna be legal anymore! I can’t buy a 12 round 9mm clip in Oregon.

I suspect WA limited to 10 round too???
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: jasnt on April 22, 2023, 05:29:23 AM: But “Gas guns are icky”. 😂

Sounds like a fun project
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: jackelope on April 22, 2023, 06:30:03 AM: Sounds to me like you’re a month late on this thread.
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 22, 2023, 06:30:13 AM: :chuckle: :fishin:

Have you thought about a bumpfire brace? Those should get you there “if you do your part”
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: b23 on April 22, 2023, 07:52:06 AM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on April 22, 2023, 06:30:13 AM
:chuckle: :fishin:

Have you thought about a bumpfire brace? Those should get you there “if you do your part”

:lol4:
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 22, 2023, 08:12:22 AM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on April 22, 2023, 06:30:13 AM
:chuckle: :fishin:

Have you thought about a bumpfire brace? Those should get you there “if you do your part”
Exactly, I checked to see if the date on this was April 1 ! But I know Yorke does crazy stuff so who knows…..
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: Jolten on April 22, 2023, 09:17:45 AM: Have to be honest kinda disappointed... I thought for sure youd go with a .22 EARGESPLITTEN LOUDENBOOMER necked up to .243 and call it .243 BiggestHammer..
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: CastleRocker on April 22, 2023, 09:44:10 AM: I have both the 243, and 25 WSSM uppers. The ONLY thing I don't like about either caliber is the brass; it's very brittle. I anneal between every sizing, and only get 3 or 4 firing before the head separates, or the neck splits. I had a box of factory ammo that 4 case necks split in two different rifles. (So it's not a chamber spec issue, unless I had two barrels that were both out of spec). I'm currenty collecting good WSM brass so I can make my own. If that doesn't work better, I guess I won't shoot them as much. The 243 is better in my opinion, as the bullet selection is much more extensive. Antelope don't like either caliber. I wouldn't try to shoot anything bigger than a deer with them though. As far as magazines go, a 30 round 556 AR mag holds 8 WSSM shells. I'd think a 30 rounder would be about 2 feet long.
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: jay.sharkbait on April 22, 2023, 01:44:30 PM: I’m not dead yet……

Whatever happened to the AK in 444?
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: BeWitty on April 22, 2023, 03:02:38 PM: 25 WSSM for elk at long range? Why
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: yorketransport on April 22, 2023, 05:33:28 PM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on April 22, 2023, 06:30:13 AM
:chuckle: :fishin:

Have you thought about a bumpfire brace? Those should get you there “if you do your part”

I forgot about bumbfire braces! I think I need one of those binary trigger things too. A little extra lead down range can help for those times that I can't do my part. :chuckle:

Quote from: Jolten on April 22, 2023, 09:17:45 AM
Have to be honest kinda disappointed... I thought for sure youd go with a .22 EARGESPLITTEN LOUDENBOOMER necked up to .243 and call it .243 BiggestHammer..

A .243 bullet for 1000 yard elk? That's just crazy! I don't think you're taking this very seriously....

Quote from: jay.sharkbait on April 22, 2023, 01:44:30 PM
I’m not dead yet……

Whatever happened to the AK in 444?

That's a pretty vanilla with sprinkles suggestion. You've gone soft. Maybe the rumors about you going liberal really are true. I always knew you leaned to the socialist side of things.
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: Jolten on April 22, 2023, 05:56:38 PM: Right probably overkill going that fast
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: bullfisher on April 22, 2023, 07:10:39 PM: Good to see you post York. Sounds cool! You gonna try to keep this thing light weight?
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: mountainman on April 22, 2023, 08:19:35 PM: Welcome back Yorke! Hope you are well!
Milek was always fond of anything .25 caliber👍
Title: New build time!
Post by: jay.sharkbait on April 22, 2023, 08:35:54 PM: Quote from: yorketransport on April 22, 2023, 05:33:28 PM
Quote from: BULLBLASTER on April 22, 2023, 06:30:13 AM
:chuckle: :fishin:

Have you thought about a bumpfire brace? Those should get you there “if you do your part”

I forgot about bumbfire braces! I think I need one of those binary trigger things too. A little extra lead down range can help for those times that I can't do my part. :chuckle:

Quote from: Jolten on April 22, 2023, 09:17:45 AM
Have to be honest kinda disappointed... I thought for sure youd go with a .22 EARGESPLITTEN LOUDENBOOMER necked up to .243 and call it .243 BiggestHammer..

A .243 bullet for 1000 yard elk? That's just crazy! I don't think you're taking this very seriously....

Quote from: jay.sharkbait on April 22, 2023, 01:44:30 PM
I’m not dead yet……

Whatever happened to the AK in 444?

That's a pretty vanilla with sprinkles suggestion. You've gone soft. Maybe the rumors about you going liberal really are true. I always knew you leaned to the socialist side of things.

Sorry, I left out the Tantal trigger group.
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: hunter399 on April 23, 2023, 12:29:45 AM: 243 is my new go too now.
103 gr eldx.
Just got a new toy ,with a 1/8 twist.
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: dilleytech on April 25, 2023, 11:19:18 AM: Why would you want a short barrel on a hunting gun? Your going to
Loose so much speed.
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: jackelope on April 25, 2023, 12:13:54 PM: Quote from: dilleytech on April 25, 2023, 11:19:18 AM
Why would you want a short barrel on a hunting gun? Your going to
Loose so much speed.
Is this your first Yorke thread?
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 25, 2023, 12:18:59 PM: Quote from: dilleytech on April 25, 2023, 11:19:18 AM
Why would you want a short barrel on a hunting gun? Your going to
Loose so much speed.
I mean, it's a pistol so technically 14" is pert long :chuckle:
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: Jpmiller on April 25, 2023, 01:10:43 PM: Is it ok to be sad this isn't a resurrection of the boondoggle?
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: yorketransport on April 26, 2023, 10:37:32 PM: First of all, HuntWA has disappointed me. A few years ago, this thread would have gone completely off the rails and resulted in at least 3 people getting banned within the first 5 posts. Two of the banned members would have just been jay.sharkbait and biggerhammer though, so they don't really count. :chuckle: I was sure the 1000 yards on elk would get a few more folks worked up.

I do love the fact that I can throw together a theoretical build using components that are either banned or impossible to get (has anyone tried to get the 131 Blackjack bullets lately ;)) and nobody even bats an eye anymore. I've done some dumb projects over the years, but this would be a new low, even for me!

Quote from: dilleytech on April 25, 2023, 11:19:18 AM
Why would you want a short barrel on a hunting gun? Your going to
Loose so much speed.
That's an easy one to answer. Short barrels earn you 3x internet operator points, 4x points if you do a short barrel and say "I only shoot suppressed". Short barrels just make a great excuse to use a larger-capacity case. Want a 14" 7mm? Build a 7mm WSM. An 18" 30 caliber is more your thing? A 300 RUM is the only logical choice. Need a 20" 338 capable of legitimate 1000 yard elk hunting? The 338 SnipeTac is a clear winner and my personal favorite. :tup:

Quote from: Jpmiller on April 25, 2023, 01:10:43 PM
Is it ok to be sad this isn't a resurrection of the boondoggle?
No, it's not OK to be sad. The Boondoogle has been erased from the public record and is never to be spoken of again. I'm still paying for therapy to move on after that never-ending dumpster fire of a project. Although, I did hit 4250 fps with a 103gr Apex Afterburner out of the 25" barrel.... :chuckle:

Quote from: Karl Blanchard on April 25, 2023, 12:18:59 PM
Quote from: dilleytech on April 25, 2023, 11:19:18 AM
Why would you want a short barrel on a hunting gun? Your going to
Loose so much speed.
I mean, it's a pistol so technically 14" is pert long :chuckle:

That's the spirit! Long barrels are for cheaters who need to get closer to the target.
Title: Re: New build time!
Post by: b23 on April 27, 2023, 02:16:15 PM: I thought the "It needs to be better than 1 MOA to 1000 yards so I can use it for elk hunting this fall" and the use of a "Simmons 6-24x44mm ProTarget scope" was pretty funny. :chuckle: