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Title: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 02, 2023, 08:01:59 AM
A coworker decided he didn’t want his Green mountain Grill Daniel Boone anymore and asked me if I wanted it.  Figured why not.  I’ll give it a try. Has anyone torn one of these things down and cleaned, repainted etc one before? It’s not terrible but I figured it was free so maybe I’ll put a little elbow grease into it and get it spiffed up. I haven’t tried it out yet but he said everything worked. He bought a Blackstone and didn’t have room for both.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: HHPro on July 02, 2023, 08:15:50 AM
Does it have the shop vac port on the bottom of the cook area?If it does that makes cleaning the cooking chamber easy,the rest is fairly simple with just elbow grease.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 02, 2023, 08:41:48 AM
Does it have the shop vac port on the bottom of the cook area?If it does that makes cleaning the cooking chamber easy,the rest is fairly simple with just elbow grease.

Not sure. I’ve taken everything out of the cooling area already though. That was easy.  I’m thinking of disassembling the whole thing. Some high temp black paint where needed. Maybe new grates.  We’ll see how the old ones clean up.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: HHPro on July 02, 2023, 09:42:17 AM
They added a shop vac port the past few years and all the grates were stainless steel as well,go on Amazon and order some bar keepers friend that stuff helps clean amazingly fast.
Title: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 02, 2023, 09:57:50 AM
Thanks. I’ll get some. And I think this unit is definitely more than a few years old.
I’ll get it out of the garage later and post a few pics. It’s just got a lot of baked on caked on crud and some rust on the outside.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: HHPro on July 02, 2023, 10:35:01 AM
Worst case scenario maybe have to buy some new grates but as long as the auger functions and the igniter ignites that's a heck of a deal.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 02, 2023, 10:38:32 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Green-Mountain-Daniel-Replacement-Grates/dp/B07BCHPJHR/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?adgrpid=64506951588&hvadid=274737198457&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9033365&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=5419503045805413338&hvtargid=kwd-340347793410&hydadcr=5412_9609490&keywords=green+mountain+grill+parts&qid=1688319441&sr=8-17
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Rainier10 on July 02, 2023, 11:02:36 AM
Threads like this are why I love this forum. It is literally my only social media because you can the answer to just about anything right here.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Sr15 on July 02, 2023, 01:03:36 PM
I restored my dads 1980's manufactured Traeger. It is one of the first models they produced. The fire pot was burned clear through so needed to make a new one. It doesn't even have an ignitor so need to light pellets manually. I found some high temp paint that was a nearly perfect match to the original color. It works great and seems to do a better job of smoking than my newer model so that is what I primarily use it for. Enjoy your restoration project and post pics when done
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 02, 2023, 01:15:47 PM
I restored my dads 1980's manufactured Traeger. It is one of the first models they produced. The fire pot was burned clear through so needed to make a new one. It doesn't even have an ignitor so need to light pellets manually. I found some high temp paint that was a nearly perfect match to the original color. It works great and seems to do a better job of smoking than my newer model so that is what I primarily use it for. Enjoy your restoration project and post pics when done

That’s cool and kind of what I want to do with this one. I don’t know how old it is. Not too old but old enough that it’s got miles on it and it shows in the bbq gunk built up on it.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 02, 2023, 01:21:02 PM
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Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: wadu1 on July 02, 2023, 02:58:56 PM
As stated once before, if auger functions and the igniter still works don't mess with it. I would head to Hobo Freight and get a set of wire brushes for a drill and clean up the outside and paint. Ace Hardware has some decent hi-temp paint for BBQ's that works well. As for the insides I would use some heavy-duty stove cleaner to remove the gunk. Be sure to use some disposable gloves when using stove cleaner. The grill rack may clean up, might be easier to just replace them.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 02, 2023, 03:12:51 PM
Just threw some pellets in it and fired it up. Lit right away. Auger works. Blower fan, not so much. It works, but it sounds like it doesn’t really want to work. Pretty sure that’s a cheap part to replace so I’ll just do that. Otherwise I think it works like a champ. Can’t wait to try it out with some meat in it.

Question for you pellet smoker guys. I was told they don’t smoke as much as a stick burner which is all I have any experience with. It seemed to smoke quite a bit at the initial startup which I expected. How long do they smoke heavily? I heard it dissipates after a bit because they burn real efficiently. Reason I ask is because my wife is bothered by the smoke. I really want to buy a nice Rectec but I don’t want to spend a bunch of money on one and then have my wife not be able to deal with the smoke due to her asthma issues. So this is kind of an experiment with the free one.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: carlyoungs on July 02, 2023, 03:19:06 PM
If you want more smoke just buy the pellet holder that sits on top of the grates. You fill it with pellets and light it with a torch. They are like $15 bucks on Amazon. I tend to only use it for smoking fish to get a little more smoke.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: wadu1 on July 02, 2023, 03:25:07 PM
From my experience they all smoke a lot until they come up to temperature. I think the brand and type of pellets also make a difference in the amount of smoke. I use apple or apple blend pellets when I use Alder, I get a lot more smoke.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 02, 2023, 03:31:27 PM
I want less smoke. I’m not sure it makes sense saying that out loud. It’s the only way I’ll get to buy a nice new recteq
:chuckle:
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 04, 2023, 01:28:22 PM
Got it plugged in and gave it a test run. As I expected going in, the combustion fan is bunk. Good news is they’re only $25 ish. Bad news is they’re completely out of stock everywhere including the manufacturer.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Rainier10 on July 04, 2023, 01:49:48 PM
Got it plugged in and gave it a test run. As I expected going in, the combustion fan is bunk. Good news is they’re only $25 ish. Bad news is they’re completely out of stock everywhere including the manufacturer.
Dang it. Retrofit time. I am positive there is an ingenious redneck fix out there.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: wadu1 on July 04, 2023, 05:06:53 PM
Got it plugged in and gave it a test run. As I expected going in, the combustion fan is bunk. Good news is they’re only $25 ish. Bad news is they’re completely out of stock everywhere including the manufacturer.
Did you try Amazon and Evilbay?
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Ridgeratt on July 04, 2023, 05:20:13 PM
What is the dimensions of the muffin fan. Post up a picture of what you are looking for.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 05, 2023, 07:55:21 AM
Got it plugged in and gave it a test run. As I expected going in, the combustion fan is bunk. Good news is they’re only $25 ish. Bad news is they’re completely out of stock everywhere including the manufacturer.
Did you try Amazon and Evilbay?

Yes, and then some.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 05, 2023, 08:11:32 AM
What is the dimensions of the muffin fan. Post up a picture of what you are looking for.

4” on center screw holes. 110v and there’s a gasket where it mounts to the combustion chamber.

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Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Ridgeratt on July 05, 2023, 08:29:00 AM
have you tried Grainger or johnston supply
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Ridgeratt on July 05, 2023, 08:39:00 AM
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Supco-Motors-30962000

Maybe here.

or https://www.supplyhouse.com/Supco-SM552-Vent-Fan-Motor

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Supco-SM690C-Replacement-Utility-Motor-120V
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 05, 2023, 09:15:32 AM
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Supco-Motors-30962000

Maybe here.

or https://www.supplyhouse.com/Supco-SM552-Vent-Fan-Motor

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Supco-SM690C-Replacement-Utility-Motor-120V

Oh dang...you da man.  One of those is probably worth a try. Thank you.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Ridgeratt on July 05, 2023, 09:27:11 AM
I get lucky now and then. I can pull a rabbit out of my hat now and then.

another source.

https://www.grainger.com/category/motors/ac-motors/hvac-ac-motors/c-frame-hvac-ac-motors

Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 05, 2023, 09:30:55 AM
I get lucky now and then. I can pull a rabbit out of my hat now and then.

I ordered that one because I might be an idiot and not be able to figure out how to get the fan blade off of the existing motor. This one comes with new fan blades too.

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Supco-SM690C-Replacement-Utility-Motor-120V
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Jpmiller on July 05, 2023, 09:49:22 AM
I've found pellet brand makes a lot of difference in the amount of smoke and the flavor of the smoke. Traeger brand pellets seems to be the least smokey on all fronts.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Katmai Guy on July 05, 2023, 10:34:44 AM
I get lucky now and then. I can pull a rabbit out of my hat now and then.

I ordered that one because I might be an idiot and not be able to figure out how to get the fan blade off of the existing motor. This one comes with new fan blades too.

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Supco-SM690C-Replacement-Utility-Motor-120V

My GMG has a 12v power supply inline with the cord.  Some folks have mounted this up in the control box making it look like the grill is powered 120v.  Is this the case with yours or is it really a 120v fan motor?
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Ridgeratt on July 05, 2023, 11:24:54 AM
I'm was just going off the 2nd photo that jackalope posted. It says 110V but I'm not an expert.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: CP on July 05, 2023, 11:27:18 AM
It looks like a bathroom vent fan.

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Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 05, 2023, 11:38:54 AM
I get lucky now and then. I can pull a rabbit out of my hat now and then.

I ordered that one because I might be an idiot and not be able to figure out how to get the fan blade off of the existing motor. This one comes with new fan blades too.

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Supco-SM690C-Replacement-Utility-Motor-120V

My GMG has a 12v power supply inline with the cord.  Some folks have mounted this up in the control box making it look like the grill is powered 120v.  Is this the case with yours or is it really a 120v fan motor?
Mine is a 110v.

I think the Davy Crocketts are 12v with transformer. You can buy those fans all over the place.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: hunter399 on July 05, 2023, 11:40:24 AM
What about something like this.
It goes to a wood stove.


Blaze King Convection Axial Fan Motor Blower Z7005 https://a.co/d/6dfaFHp


They have other fans that go to wood stoves on Amazon.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: elkaholic123 on July 05, 2023, 11:57:38 AM
Josh, I have a Recteq and it smokes quite a bit on initial start up but when it’s up to temp it does not smoke much at all! If you open lid for extended time it will smoke while getting back up to temp and as the auger drops new pellets! I had a Traeger for 11 years and loved it, but this Recteq is Nice!
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 05, 2023, 12:03:52 PM
Josh, I have a Recteq and it smokes quite a bit on initial start up but when it’s up to temp it does not smoke much at all! If you open lid for extended time it will smoke while getting back up to temp and as the auger drops new pellets! I had a Traeger for 11 years and loved it, but this Recteq is Nice!

Yep. If the smoke doesn’t bother my wife, a 590 is in the plan. Might use this one till it dies though. We’ll see.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Ridgeratt on July 06, 2023, 02:55:12 PM
I want less smoke. I’m not sure it makes sense saying that out loud. It’s the only way I’ll get to buy a nice new recteq
:chuckle:


So I am going to ask a stupid question.  But you are trying to start a wood fire from  pellets. Have you ever had any luck starting a wood fire with out some kind of smoke.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 06, 2023, 10:34:22 PM
I want less smoke. I’m not sure it makes sense saying that out loud. It’s the only way I’ll get to buy a nice new recteq
:chuckle:


So I am going to ask a stupid question.  But you are trying to start a wood fire from  pellets. Have you ever had any luck starting a wood fire with out some kind of smoke.

I’m sure there will be smoke. I’ve only had a stick burner smoker which billows smoke. My wife is asthmatic. She’s not a fan of the smoke. I understand these higher end pellet smokers burn very efficiently to the point the smoke is significantly less. She loves the smoked food. The hope is she isn’t as bothered by the hopefully less smoke.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: wadu1 on July 06, 2023, 10:40:15 PM
Keep in mind that quality pellets tend to smoke less. The better pellets have less filler (floor sweepings)
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 16, 2023, 05:54:02 PM
Got the fan motor Ridgeratt steered me to. Installed it today. Works like a champ. Have some chicken on it right now. We’ll see how it works.

Thanks to the electrician for helping the dummy out and helping him to think outside the box.
:chuckle:
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Ridgeratt on July 16, 2023, 06:10:20 PM
Got the fan motor Ridgeratt steered me to. Installed it today. Works like a champ. Have some chicken on it right now. We’ll see how it works.

Thanks to the electrician for helping the dummy out and helping him to think outside the box.
:chuckle:


I'm Glad that you were able to get it working. But having watched the forum I have found that I really don't have anything beneficial to bring to the table. So I don't think I will be offering any more electrical suggestions.

May you all find the answers you need. Just remember Google is your friend.


RATTOUT !!!!
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: jackelope on July 16, 2023, 06:28:00 PM
Got the fan motor Ridgeratt steered me to. Installed it today. Works like a champ. Have some chicken on it right now. We’ll see how it works.

Thanks to the electrician for helping the dummy out and helping him to think outside the box.
:chuckle:


I'm Glad that you were able to get it working. But having watched the forum I have found that I really don't have anything beneficial to bring to the table. So I don't think I will be offering any more electrical suggestions.

May you all find the answers you need. Just remember Google is your friend.


RATTOUT !!!!
Oh Nellie stop it.

You’ve given me utilized advice on more than one occasion. I appreciate you and your wisdom. Sorry about whatever happened to cause this. I know you’re the go-to guy for electrician type wisdom. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 19, 2023, 04:44:54 PM
Thanks. I’ll get some. And I think this unit is definitely more than a few years old.
I’ll get it out of the garage later and post a few pics. It’s just got a lot of baked on caked on crud and some rust on the outside.

That caked on crud.....on the grill bars...... is flavor! dont break it off. My treager is 15+ years old, never cleaned the grates. lol
Title: Re: Restoring/cleaning up a GMG pellet smoker
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 19, 2023, 06:47:44 PM
Thanks. I’ll get some. And I think this unit is definitely more than a few years old.
I’ll get it out of the garage later and post a few pics. It’s just got a lot of baked on caked on crud and some rust on the outside.

That caked on crud.....on the grill bars...... is flavor! dont break it off. My treager is 15+ years old, never cleaned the grates. lol

After 15 years the grates would be a griddle with the way I cook stuff.🤣
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