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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: Parkern on July 27, 2023, 09:56:44 AM
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As the deadline approaches for those to buy their drawn Multi tag, has anyone heard what the plan is for leftovers? Surely they can't *censored* it up as bad as last year?
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As the deadline approaches for those to buy their drawn Multi tag, has anyone heard what the plan is for leftovers? Surely they can't *censored* it up as bad as last year?
Wdfw “ Hold My Beer”
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As the deadline approaches for those to buy their drawn Multi tag, has anyone heard what the plan is for leftovers? Surely they can't *censored* it up as bad as last year?
same deal as last year unfortunately
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As the deadline approaches for those to buy their drawn Multi tag, has anyone heard what the plan is for leftovers? Surely they can't *censored* it up as bad as last year?
same deal as last year unfortunately
So you've had that confirmed? They will do like 5 drawings in Aug with random dates and email notifications, then make the tag available a few days before late archery lol? Only the WDFW could dream that up.
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Yes, it will be the same as last year
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I didn’t go through the debacle last year but am on the hunt this year. What was/is the process if someone doesn’t mind explaining? Post here or pm. Either works. I just would like to know what I’m up against
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They notify a few people at a time, give them way too long to decide to buy it or not, and by the time they get down the list to the guy who has been dying to get it there’s two weeks left in later archery deer season. But hey you have a great opportunity to buy the multi season deer tag now! I’m really hoping for one too, well hoping for one before most of deer season is over anyways, but I know this new process is a crapshoot so I’m not keeping my fingers crossed.
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I received a email into the first week of
November offering me a chance but by that point it’s too late.
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I hope they have the first round of notifications ready to go on 8/1. No reason that they couldn't have that prepared and be on it. If I get a chance by early Sept I will buy it, after that...no thanks!
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The entire multi-season process need to be changed. You should have to put the entire $140 up front, to weed out all the people that waste everyones time. They also need to move the buying date to June 30th. Then put leftovers on sale first come on July 1st. That would fix all the problems.
The new process is absolutely retarded. Clearly made up by someone who has never used a multi-season tag or hunted.
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Sure hope I get an email prior to 9/1 because I really hope to be sitting in a deer stand that morning
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ahhh, it's nice for a change to not have to worry about leftover deer or elk this year. :chuckle:
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The entire multi-season process need to be changed. You should have to put the entire $140 up front, to weed out all the people that waste everyones time. They also need to move the buying date to June 30th. Then put leftovers on sale first come on July 1st. That would fix all the problems.
The new process is absolutely retarded. Clearly made up by someone who has never used a multi-season tag or hunted.
:yeah:
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I hope they have the first round of notifications ready to go on 8/1. No reason that they couldn't have that prepared and be on it. If I get a chance by early Sept I will buy it, after that...no thanks!
I believe I got notified last year around 8/12 that I was able to go buy mine.
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For those of you who did buy a leftover MS tag last year... Did you turn your tag into a license dealer and then purchase the MS tag from them? Or did you call wdfw and deal with them over the phone? Thought I remember seeing someone last year had to wait 14 days for wdfw to mail them the new tag.
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I don't mind the redraw process but 2 weeks is WAY too long. A weekly redraw makes more sense but eliminates the chaos of first come first serve. Even better would be the ability to decline immediately on the website to allow even sooner redraw. I know... Far too advanced for a government entity.
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Just pay up front - no tag return, no redraw. That simple change would take the tire kickers out of the game and it would be done and done before the special permit process even begins.
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I emailed them and they wouldn’t say. Just said there will be an announcement in august
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Re-draw was a joke. I was notified around Sept. 20th that I had the option to buy the multi season. Missed the archery opener and already had an out of state trip planned on the muzzy opener. All re-draws should take place prior to Sept. 1st.
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Re-draw was a joke. I was notified around Sept. 20th that I had the option to buy the multi season. Missed the archery opener and already had an out of state trip planned on the muzzy opener. All re-draws should take place prior to Sept. 1st.
All the states should be able to implement a system so all tags are done at least a week before the 1st hunting season starts.
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Just like clearcut, I received notification in November last year that I could buy a multi-season tag, I didn’t, by then I had already got it done (let’s hope for that kind of luck this year).
That being said, I’m still bitter about it and can’t help but to feel that it’s purposeful. I wish I DIDN’T feel that way, but it was just SO bad! :twocents:
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The deer should definitely be first
Come first serve.. elk I understand a redraw but they definitely need to move up there times / quicken times between draws so it can be completed before mid August.
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You don't have the tag unless you buy it by 7 31.
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Multi season is a joke. You are notified in March that you drew! The deadline to purchase should be the deadline to put in for permits in may. That gives them time to actual sell the unsold permits and give others the time to plan some hunts if notified to buy. None of this crap of people being notified in middle of archery or into November! Ridiculous
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Multi season is a joke. You are notified in March that you drew! The deadline to purchase should be the deadline to put in for permits in may. That gives them time to actual sell the unsold permits and give others the time to plan some hunts if notified to buy. None of this crap of people being notified in middle of archery or into November! Ridiculous
:yeah: Now I'm hearing they're allowing you to turn them back for point restoration as well. What a mess
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I think a deadline to buy after the announcement of special hunts would be fine. My hunting plans changed after I put in for MS deer and I intended to not buy it. But then my old man drew a moose tag and I changed my mind again and bought it. The way this state works there is no real way to know the plan until sometime in June.
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I think a deadline to buy after the announcement of special hunts would be fine. My hunting plans changed after I put in for MS deer and I intended to not buy it. But then my old man drew a moose tag and I changed my mind again and bought it. The way this state works there is no real way to know the plan until sometime in June.
Your right, That brings up the bigger point that the entire special hunts draws should move to march or april. why wait until late may/june? Lots of guys need to plan time off 6 months out or longer.
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I think a deadline to buy after the announcement of special hunts would be fine. My hunting plans changed after I put in for MS deer and I intended to not buy it. But then my old man drew a moose tag and I changed my mind again and bought it. The way this state works there is no real way to know the plan until sometime in June.
Your right, That brings up the bigger point that the entire special hunts draws should move to march or april. why wait until late may/june? Lots of guys need to plan time off 6 months out or longer.
The reason they SAY they wait until later which makes sense in theory if I trusted they actually did it, is to compile the harvest numer data and allocate tags for all the units based on objectives. How they come up with their tag numbers when it goes against biological common sense is a whole different thread
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I talked to them today.They said they have to get the actual sales data after 7/31 before they decide what they will do with leftovers. Who knows why they can't make that decision two months ago--they said sometime in August--no known date
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No new drawings done in the past, just go down the line from original MS drawing. Would be nice to know your place in line, just in case.
Can I buy it online if I'm out of state hunting when I get notified?
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Ive spoken with the f&g twice now voicing my opinion on how bad last year was, it didnt sound to me like they were going to do that again. Their reasoning for it was to keep people out of long lines due to "covid". I agree with most opinions above, front the $ and or move the deadline way up. Finding out just before or during the early seasons doesnt give people any time to plan.
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Perhaps, it will be different than years prior. Here is a response I received yesterday from fish and game. I wouldn’t be surprised if the surrendered tags this season are not reallocated.
Hello,
Thank you for contacting the Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife.
There will be an announcement in August regarding what we are doing with the leftover multiseason tags.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us at 360.902.2464.
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Perhaps, it will be different than years prior. Here is a response I received yesterday from fish and game. I wouldn’t be surprised if the surrendered tags this season are not reallocated.
Hello,
Thank you for contacting the Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife.
There will be an announcement in August regarding what we are doing with the leftover multiseason tags.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us at 360.902.2464.
There is no way wdfw will not sell those tags. That's their number 1 thing they are excellent at, taking our money.
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For the wdfw to intentionally miss out on the revenue generation would be an unwise business and unusual decision
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Perhaps, it will be different than years prior. Here is a response I received yesterday from fish and game. I wouldn’t be surprised if the surrendered tags this season are not reallocated.
Hello,
Thank you for contacting the Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife.
There will be an announcement in August regarding what we are doing with the leftover multiseason tags.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us at 360.902.2464.
There is no way wdfw will not sell those tags. That's their number 1 thing they are excellent at, taking our money.
Interestingly enough, this was their response to a somewhat unrelated question. I can assure you, I was not inquiring about the redistribution of the multiseasons tags.
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I though all leftover multi season tags went on sale Aug 1st on a first come first serve basis. Is that not the way it is anymore
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Nope not anymore as of last year. WDFW got on the it’s not fair train just like the rest of the world. Not everyone can skip work to be in line. Life’s not fair. Now they redraw and you give them way too long to decide if they want it or not and end up not even selling them all because they’re approaching people with them when there’s only two weeks of late archery deer left by the time it comes around to them. Stupid process. Like everyone has says you should have to pay upfront and that would weed out most people. And the redraw you should only have two or three days to make up your mind. All permits should be re-distributed before September 1
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I agree with that. Wastes a lot of people's time.
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Just make tags non returnable with a financial obligation if selected, Stop returning points, and in a few years this won’t be an annual gripe.
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Based off years past emails, this is how I take the process and what will happen this year...
In the past if you were a person that bought the app and applied for the MS tag during the initial draw and were unsuccessful you got first dibs at the leftover MS tags around Mid August. Once that pool of people was done buying and or not buying during their allotted window, they opened up the remaining MS tags to everyone for a time period. Once they time period ended, and they still had leftover tags, they opened up another time period to purchase and on and on until the tags were sold or all the seasons were done. If they are not changing the system this year, then anyone who applied for and did NOT get drawn in the initial MS draw will have a chance to buy a MS tag at some point during the month of August on a first come first serve basis.
As I have read and continue to see posted, there will be no change in the way this is done this year as it was done in the past.
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I sent an email asking how multi-season leftovers would go this year...response this am pasted here:
Thank you for contacting the Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife.
We will be conducting a Second Draw for individuals who have purchased their Multi season Deer or Elk applications but were not selected the first round of the drawing. We do not have a specific date set, as the deadline to purchase your Multi season tags for those who were drawn the first round is not until July 31st. Once the deadline has passed, and we have the official number of remaining tags, we will email all customers who qualify with instructions on how to purchase.
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Sounds like there after more money if there is a second draw....
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I sent an email asking how multi-season leftovers would go this year...response this am pasted here:
Thank you for contacting the Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife.
We will be conducting a Second Draw for individuals who have purchased their Multi season Deer or Elk applications but were not selected the first round of the drawing. We do not have a specific date set, as the deadline to purchase your Multi season tags for those who were drawn the first round is not until July 31st. Once the deadline has passed, and we have the official number of remaining tags, we will email all customers who qualify with instructions on how to purchase.
Thanks for posting their response. Sounds like the same scenario and process as I remembered.
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For those of you who did buy a leftover MS tag last year... Did you turn your tag into a license dealer and then purchase the MS tag from them? Or did you call wdfw and deal with them over the phone? Thought I remember seeing someone last year had to wait 14 days for wdfw to mail them the new tag.
Every time I have gotten one after august 1st. I have gone to the local dealer purchased it and not turned in my old tag. Basically I’m left with two deer tags. I don’t use the second one but I find it funny.
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For those of you who did buy a leftover MS tag last year... Did you turn your tag into a license dealer and then purchase the MS tag from them? Or did you call wdfw and deal with them over the phone? Thought I remember seeing someone last year had to wait 14 days for wdfw to mail them the new tag.
Every time I have gotten one after august 1st. I have gone to the local dealer purchased it and not turned in my old tag. Basically I’m left with two deer tags. I don’t use the second one but I find it funny.
Seams like last couple years they have hammered down on old tag must be returned cause I’m sure not everyone is as honest
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The countdown begins
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Anyone hear when the first drawing will be?
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Probably be first come first serve.
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It will probably be August 31st at 4:00 pm
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It will probably be August 31st at 4:00 pm
I was drawn in late Sept. last year. WDFW or governement drawing system was all messed up.
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It will probably be August 31st at 4:00 pm
I was drawn in late Sept. last year. WDFW or governement drawing system was all messed up.
That is what I thought I remembered happening last year as well but the responses from wdfw that other members posted here have me confused. I want to be in my stand September 1st but that is tough if they wait until late September
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It will probably be August 31st at 4:00 pm
I was drawn in late Sept. last year. WDFW or governement drawing system was all messed up.
That is what I thought I remembered happening last year as well but the responses from wdfw that other members posted here have me confused. I want to be in my stand September 1st but that is tough if they wait until late September
The leftover draw started in mid August last year. Some had the chance to purchase before Sept 1st. Notification were sent out all the way in to late October that I am aware of. Well after most general seasons were over.
If wdfw was going to handle it this way again I don't see why they couldn't have the list of eligible buyers ready to go on 8/1. They don't need to know how many tags are left to assemble the buying order, just start at the top of the list based on remaining tags.
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It will probably be August 31st at 4:00 pm
I was drawn in late Sept. last year. WDFW or governement drawing system was all messed up.
That is what I thought I remembered happening last year as well but the responses from wdfw that other members posted here have me confused. I want to be in my stand September 1st but that is tough if they wait until late September
The leftover draw started in mid August last year. Some had the chance to purchase before Sept 1st. Notification were sent out all the way in to late October that I am aware of. Well after most general seasons were over.
If wdfw was going to handle it this way again I don't see why they couldn't have the list of eligible buyers ready to go on 8/1. They don't need to know how many tags are left to assemble the buying order, just start at the top of the list based on remaining tags.
Do you think there are more people who applied and didn't draw than leftover tags? Even if there are, I don't see why they couldn't just do a draw for as many names as there are tags and give them a week or two to buy. After that, open it up.
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It will probably be August 31st at 4:00 pm
I was drawn in late Sept. last year. WDFW or governement drawing system was all messed up.
That is what I thought I remembered happening last year as well but the responses from wdfw that other members posted here have me confused. I want to be in my stand September 1st but that is tough if they wait until late September
The leftover draw started in mid August last year. Some had the chance to purchase before Sept 1st. Notification were sent out all the way in to late October that I am aware of. Well after most general seasons were over.
If wdfw was going to handle it this way again I don't see why they couldn't have the list of eligible buyers ready to go on 8/1. They don't need to know how many tags are left to assemble the buying order, just start at the top of the list based on remaining tags.
Do you think there are more people who applied and didn't draw than leftover tags? Even if there are, I don't see why they couldn't just do a draw for as many names as there are tags and give them a week or two to buy. After that, open it up.
I don't think it matters how many leftovers there actually are. They could assemble the list of eligible buyers from those who were not drawn initially and base how many notifications go out on the number of leftovers. There are going to be way more names in the 2nd draw than tags anyway. The pool of undrawn names that will be in the 2nd draw has been constant since 3/31.
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It will probably be August 31st at 4:00 pm
I was drawn in late Sept. last year. WDFW or governement drawing system was all messed up.
That is what I thought I remembered happening last year as well but the responses from wdfw that other members posted here have me confused. I want to be in my stand September 1st but that is tough if they wait until late September
The leftover draw started in mid August last year. Some had the chance to purchase before Sept 1st. Notification were sent out all the way in to late October that I am aware of. Well after most general seasons were over.
If wdfw was going to handle it this way again I don't see why they couldn't have the list of eligible buyers ready to go on 8/1. They don't need to know how many tags are left to assemble the buying order, just start at the top of the list based on remaining tags.
Do you think there are more people who applied and didn't draw than leftover tags? Even if there are, I don't see why they couldn't just do a draw for as many names as there are tags and give them a week or two to buy. After that, open it up.
I don't think it matters how many leftovers there actually are. They could assemble the list of eligible buyers from those who were not drawn initially and base how many notifications go out on the number of leftovers. There are going to be way more names in the 2nd draw than tags anyway. The pool of undrawn names that will be in the 2nd draw has been constant since 3/31.
The reason I ask is if there are more leftover tags than people who didn't draw, they should just open it up to everyone who applied 8/1
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I don't think there is another drawing...they just go down the list from the first and only drawing...basically if 10,000 people put in for it initially they rank everyone by "drawing" (1st person drawn gets assigned #1, etc etc until everyone has a draw #) and they notified the first 6,500 and only 6,000 bought it, then the next 500 in line (number 6,501-7,001) are notified to go buy the tag within 15 days, then after that, if say 100 tags were not bought then numbers 7,002-7,102 get the notice to go buy the tag, and it continues until all of the tags are sold...so, yes, they should have released the next group notification on Aug 1st, not sure why they wait...
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It will probably be August 31st at 4:00 pm
I was drawn in late Sept. last year. WDFW or governement drawing system was all messed up.
That is what I thought I remembered happening last year as well but the responses from wdfw that other members posted here have me confused. I want to be in my stand September 1st but that is tough if they wait until late September
The leftover draw started in mid August last year. Some had the chance to purchase before Sept 1st. Notification were sent out all the way in to late October that I am aware of. Well after most general seasons were over.
If wdfw was going to handle it this way again I don't see why they couldn't have the list of eligible buyers ready to go on 8/1. They don't need to know how many tags are left to assemble the buying order, just start at the top of the list based on remaining tags.
Do you think there are more people who applied and didn't draw than leftover tags? Even if there are, I don't see why they couldn't just do a draw for as many names as there are tags and give them a week or two to buy. After that, open it up.
I don't think it matters how many leftovers there actually are. They could assemble the list of eligible buyers from those who were not drawn initially and base how many notifications go out on the number of leftovers. There are going to be way more names in the 2nd draw than tags anyway. The pool of undrawn names that will be in the 2nd draw has been constant since 3/31.
The reason I ask is if there are more leftover tags than people who didn't draw, they should just open it up to everyone who applied 8/1
Agreed!
I don't think there is another drawing...they just go down the list from the first and only drawing...basically if 10,000 people put in for it initially they rank everyone by "drawing" (1st person drawn gets assigned #1, etc etc until everyone has a draw #) and they notified the first 6,500 and only 6,000 bought it, then the next 500 in line (number 6,501-7,001) are notified to go buy the tag within 15 days, then after that, if say 100 tags were not bought then numbers 7,002-7,102 get the notice to go buy the tag, and it continues until all of the tags are sold...so, yes, they should have released the next group notification on Aug 1st, not sure why they wait...
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Cuz government. :bash:
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they should just open it up to everyone who applied 8/1
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Only the wdfw could come up with the convoluted bs they did last year...what the hell is wrong with keeping it simple...FCFS after the deadline and they will all sell out before archery opens.
It shows how clueless so many in WDFW are that they didn't realize a multi season tag really loses its appeal come late November and December :chuckle: :bash:
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they should just open it up to everyone who applied 8/1
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Only the wdfw could come up with the convoluted bs they did last year...what the hell is wrong with keeping it simple...FCFS after the deadline and they will all sell out before archery opens.
It shows how clueless so many in WDFW are that they didn't realize a multi season tag really loses its appeal come late November and December :chuckle: :bash:
And to beat a very very dead horse... The multiseason permitting process is far too long where 99% of your purchasers already know if they will buy it or not shortly after the special permit draws. I think we should be getting WDFW notices soon to apply for the 2024 Multiseason draws...
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they should just open it up to everyone who applied 8/1
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Only the wdfw could come up with the convoluted bs they did last year...what the hell is wrong with keeping it simple...FCFS after the deadline and they will all sell out before archery opens.
It shows how clueless so many in WDFW are that they didn't realize a multi season tag really loses its appeal come late November and December :chuckle: :bash:
It does, but I was pretty excited last year when I was finally "drawn" the end of October and could hunt late archery :)
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I don't think there is another drawing...they just go down the list from the first and only drawing...basically if 10,000 people put in for it initially they rank everyone by "drawing" (1st person drawn gets assigned #1, etc etc until everyone has a draw #) and they notified the first 6,500 and only 6,000 bought it, then the next 500 in line (number 6,501-7,001) are notified to go buy the tag within 15 days, then after that, if say 100 tags were not bought then numbers 7,002-7,102 get the notice to go buy the tag, and it continues until all of the tags are sold...so, yes, they should have released the next group notification on Aug 1st, not sure why they wait...
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if there was 2k left over multi deer tags and they notified 4k applicants they could buy them Id be willing to bet lots would still be unsold.. the ship has sailed for many at this point in the year to make plans
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Makes me think of the Obama quote about biden. “Never underestimate wdfw’s ability to Eff things up”
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Has anyone been contacted yet?
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If you got drawn and didn’t buy by the deadline can you still buy if there are leftovers?
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No
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Has anyone been contacted yet?
Crickets here
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Nothing here either :dunno:
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Nope
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Nobody has a mole with the state with some intel?
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I called yesterday to ask what the heck was going on...the same license person who emailed me the response I posted a few pages back said 'they' have not decided or told licensing what the plan is yet and it was his best guess that it will be FCFS for applicants who applied and were not selected.
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I called yesterday to ask what the heck was going on...the same license person who emailed me the response I posted a few pages back said 'they' have not decided or told licensing what the plan is yet and it was his best guess that it will be FCFS for applicants who applied and were not selected.
have not decided? This doesn't surprise me in the slightest
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i called today and was told maybe next in line or maybe new draw or maybe we'll find out something next week-call back Monday
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Just got an email
The deer tags will be available to purchase on a first-come, first-served basis starting at 8:30 a.m. on Thursday, Aug. 17. There will not be a purchase deadline for deer Multi-season tags; they will remain for sale until the tag limit is reached or when most of the deer hunting seasons are over.
The deer and elk tags can be purchased online or at an authorized license dealer near you. WDFW regional offices and the headquarters office in Olympia are also open for license sales.
Hunters who want to buy a Multi-season tag must have purchased a 2023 Multi-season tag application. We are emailing you today because you or someone associated with this email address entered this year’s drawing.
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Glad they went back to over the counter for deer, I will be buying one. Hopefully I can still fill my tag in September but at least I won’t feel like I have as much pressure on me having the other options. And there is still hope for elk, till Tuesday anyways
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Just got an email
The deer tags will be available to purchase on a first-come, first-served basis starting at 8:30 a.m. on Thursday, Aug. 17. There will not be a purchase deadline for deer Multi-season tags; they will remain for sale until the tag limit is reached or when most of the deer hunting seasons are over.
The deer and elk tags can be purchased online or at an authorized license dealer near you. WDFW regional offices and the headquarters office in Olympia are also open for license sales.
Hunters who want to buy a Multi-season tag must have purchased a 2023 Multi-season tag application. We are emailing you today because you or someone associated with this email address entered this year’s drawing.
Hell yes !!
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Here's the entire email
Surplus multi-season deer and elk tags
available this month
OLYMPIA – Some deer and elk hunters who bought a multi-season permit application this year will have a chance to buy one of 2,491 remaining multi-season deer tags and 129 remaining multi-season elk tags during the month of August.
The next sequential 129 hunters on the original, official elk multi-season draw list will have an opportunity to buy those remaining tags. The original multi-season draw is being used to prevent large gatherings at retail locations.
The 129 winners of the remaining elk tags will receive an email from WDFW the morning of Tuesday, Aug. 15 notifying them that they are eligible to buy a tag. Hunters are encouraged to make sure they have a valid email address in their WILD account. Once notified, those winners will have until midnight Thursday, Aug. 31 to buy their tags.
The 2,491 remaining deer tags will be available to purchase on a first-come, first-served basis starting at 8:30 a.m. on Thursday, Aug. 17. There will not be a purchase deadline for deer multi-season tags; they will remain for sale until the tag limit is reached or most of the deer hunting seasons are over.
Once sales open, both deer and elk multi-season tags can be purchased online or at an authorized license dealer near you. WDFW regional offices and the headquarters office in Olympia are also open for license sales.
Hunters who want to buy a multi-season tag must have purchased a 2023 multi-season permit application. Hunters who already have a 2023 general season transport tag will need to surrender it to WDFW or a license dealer within five days of purchasing a multi-season tag, per state law.
Multi-season deer tags are $139.10 and multi-season elk tags are $182. Tag costs are the same for residents and non-residents. Hunters with multi-season tags can hunt all three weapon choices (modern firearm, muzzleloader, and archery), season permitting.
The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife works to preserve, protect, and perpetuate fish, wildlife, and ecosystems while providing sustainable fish and wildlife recreational and commercial opportunities.
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Every single year it's about the same number of deer and elk tags available. Crazy how consistent it has been for so many years.
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Every single year it's about the same number of deer and elk tags available. Crazy how consistent it has been for so many years.
I agree.
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You would think that with the consistency of data they would update the process but that would take giving a darn so I guess that blows up that notion.
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Did they update their servers??? Otherwise gonna be a mess like last year
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Did they update their servers??? Otherwise gonna be a mess like last year
Ha you’re funny. you know you better have your phone your wife’s phone your kids phone a couple tablets and your computer ready that morning. Shoot even then I’m usually in line physically too just in case something goes wrong with the online sales. Plan for a complete crap show and who knows maybe we will be pleasantly surprised or they will meet our expectations
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Do we think there will be more than 2491 people waiting at 8:30 to purchase? :dunno:
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With the online option maybe, but usually they'd be available for a while in the past the way I remember it.
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Did they update their servers??? Otherwise gonna be a mess like last year
Ha you’re funny. you know you better have your phone your wife’s phone your kids phone a couple tablets and your computer ready that morning. Shoot even then I’m usually in line physically too just in case something goes wrong with the online sales. Plan for a complete crap show and who knows maybe we will be pleasantly surprised or they will meet our expectations
I was first in line at a bimart and got hosed last year initially. I sent an email to them and then ended up giving me the chance to purchase.
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Did they update their servers??? Otherwise gonna be a mess like last year
Ha you’re funny. you know you better have your phone your wife’s phone your kids phone a couple tablets and your computer ready that morning. Shoot even then I’m usually in line physically too just in case something goes wrong with the online sales. Plan for a complete crap show and who knows maybe we will be pleasantly surprised or they will meet our expectations
I heard that the state has a rule that the departments can only use state IT people and the backlog for projects is years and growing. WDFW has been trying to fix the hunt by reservation system for probably 6 years now and they still get duplicate reservations. They tried to hire outside techs to fix it and the state said no.
Don't know if it's true or not, but that's the story.
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Did they update their servers??? Otherwise gonna be a mess like last year
Ha you’re funny. you know you better have your phone your wife’s phone your kids phone a couple tablets and your computer ready that morning. Shoot even then I’m usually in line physically too just in case something goes wrong with the online sales. Plan for a complete crap show and who knows maybe we will be pleasantly surprised or they will meet our expectations
I heard that the state has a rule that the departments can only use state IT people and the backlog for projects is years and growing. WDFW has been trying to fix the hunt by reservation system for probably 6 years now and they still get duplicate reservations. They tried to hire outside techs to fix it and the state said no.
Don't know if it's true or not, but that's the story.
I believe it. The state doesnt want to pay market rate for software engineers, so the only thing they have that could entice people to work for them is guaranteed work and a pension. The 'guaranteed work' thing means hiring contractors is a non-starter.
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Anyone receive multi season elk email?
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Still waiting...
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Nothing yet
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My cousin got the email to purchase one.
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Do we think there will be more than 2491 people waiting at 8:30 to purchase? :dunno:
They sold out last year in the first day.
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Do we think there will be more than 2491 people waiting at 8:30 to purchase? :dunno:
They sold out last year in the first day.
How is that possible with people saying they were given the chance to buy the MS tag in November?
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Does anyone know the process of buying one online? I don’t see the option
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Don't you waste your points by purchasing now?
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Not sure looks like the website crashed.
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impossible to login.....on 3 devices....same chit show as always.....
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As soon as 830 it logged me out and now it's crashed.
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Glad it’s not just me. Why can’t they get their s*** together?
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We have logged in several times but it's not a option yet???
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We have logged in several times but it's not a option yet???
Same here. Logged in, but it's not showing up as an option to buy....
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We have logged in several times but it's not a option yet???
Same here. Logged in, but it's not showing up as an option to buy....
same!
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Same happened to me but eventually got back in. Go to purchase permits, then use search bar to find multi season, put in cart and purchase
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We have logged in several times but it's not a option yet???
Same here. Logged in, but it's not showing up as an option to buy....
same!
Sold out in 15 minutes maybe?
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No it's working now just got through. Each loading screen take a few minutes.
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It finally let me purchase. I went into “view all” for the hunting category and it showed up. Then it tells you you have 5 days to return your reg deer tag if you bought one then took me to the purchase page.
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Got mine as well
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Got mine! What a pain that was! :bash:
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Got mine
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Is it under purchase special hunt or under purchase a license?
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Got mine with phone while vendor still on hold for 1st in line, then helped 1st in line with vendor still on hold.
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It finally let me purchase. I went into “view all” for the hunting category and it showed up. Then it tells you you have 5 days to return your reg deer tag if you bought one then took me to the purchase page.
Where did you find it? In the general tags?
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Not finding it anywhere as an option to buy.
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I went to purchase license—->hunting—>view all—-> scrolled down to tags—-> view all and it was in there is how I found it.
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Purchase as license/tag......It appears to be showing up for some and not others.
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Gotty
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Took awhile to find but got it
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It tells me Thank you for your order so I think I got it.
Use the search bar and type in "multi" and it pops right up.
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Purchase as license/tag......It appears to be showing up for some and not others.
I seem to be one of the ones it is not showing up for. Same with a couple other buddies, but one was able to buy it.
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I got mine once I got in. For some reason it has not been an option for my dad. Are they sold out or are other people still grabbing them?
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I got mine once I got in. For some reason it has not been an option for my dad. Are they sold out or are other people still grabbing them?
Make sure you open up the hunting tab, it didn’t show my option to purchase it until I did that.
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got mine......like having it so I can carry the same weapon as my kids on their hunts as insurance. Never know when your gonna come across two big bucks running together.
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I got mine once I got in. For some reason it has not been an option for my dad. Are they sold out or are other people still grabbing them?
Make sure you open up the hunting tab, it didn’t show my option to purchase it until I did that.
Yeah, I got mine as soon as I was able to get in. I've been logged in as my dad now for the last half hour and it's clearly not an option for him. So it's weird that others are getting theirs still, must not be sold out, but it doesn't seem that they're actually available for everyone.
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Took forever, but finally popped up after about 40 log ins.
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No option to purchase for me either.
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Stick with it. After 40 mins of it not being an option on my dad's, it finally popped up two mins ago.
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I've been trying since 8:30. Signed off & logged in again & got one at 9:21. The option was never there before then. Super frustrating!!! >:(
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Ok, just got it... you need to completely log off and re log on to wdfw liscensing over and over again, check the hunting/tag section, view all, and it showed up eventually at 9:20 AM, but only after I logged out then logged back in multiple times.
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I logged in and it wasn't an option...then I did a search with the word multi and it popped up, (I never logged out and logged in, just used the search for product function) FYI for those that are logging in and it's not an automatic option try searching for it using multi in the search box.
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PS. got mine, though I will probably still only hunt with the weapon choice I first bought the tag for, but it is nice to have options and extend my season here in WA since I will be mostly concentrating on MT & ID this fall...
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Got mine after 20 mins of trying :IBCOOL:
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After 45 minutes of searching, refreshing and typing "multi" in the search bar, I was thinking they must be sold out and was about to give up, but on my last try it showed up. Incredibly frustrating.
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No problem online at 0840, it’s under the hunting tab. Took all of 5-6 minutes. Remember, you had to have purchased a multiseason application in order for it to be available to you!
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I must have been one of the lucky ones. I couldn't remember my password but once I overcame that little problem I got right in and bought the tag. It seemed like a pretty painless process to me.
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Got mine as well
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Has anyone got one in the last little while or are they sold out
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I just logged in and got a pop up saying 2nd chance MS deer tags are sold out.
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Yep, sold out
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After logging in and out for 3 and a half hours, it never gave an option to buy a tag....what a joke :bash: >:( >:(
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After logging in and out for 3 and a half hours, it never gave an option to buy a tag....what a joke :bash: >:( >:(
That's what happened to my buddy
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The way I look at it is I just saved $140. Didn’t get one. Oh well. Always a bright side.
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Guess I got lucky. I forgot all about multi season until I was shopping at Sportsman’s warehouse. I logged in on my phone and made the purchase without any issue.
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We got ours this morning first off no problems
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^^same.
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I was in an online training course from 7-12. :bash:
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I was on right at 8:30 and took me till 854 to make my purchase. And then it still froze up on the last screen so I was unsure if it actually went through until I saw my confirmation email. Glad I didn’t wait around to get it.
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After logging in and out for 3 and a half hours, it never gave an option to buy a tag....what a joke :bash: >:( >:(
I was on my way to Eugene this morning and pulled into a rest area at 8:40 and started trying to buy a MS deer tag, took 5 attempts but the option finally popped up, thought I was to late but it was almost 9:00 before I finished the process.
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I have the day off from work today. Started logging on to the WDFW website at 8:30 am. I was never able to log on with a iPad or my cell phone.
Drove to the local Fred Meyer and stood in line for about 15 minutes at customer service.
At 9:30 am I had my multiseason.
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Took 4 minutes of loading for me to just log in. Then everything was super slow while on the website but was able to get one.
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I don’t believe it. I just logged in and it said they were all sold.
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Why such demand nowadays? Lets hear some opinions!
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The internet made the masses aware and easier for them? I'd also speculate that rising costs have grounded some out of state hunting so folks want to make the most at home.
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Amazing how the WDFW can't get a website and the servers to handle what maybe 3-5000 people trying to log into buy multi? Idaho has 150K try and log in on one morning... Glad i got mine but it was a *censored* show. Went into a dealer and even their computer took 30 min to buy it for one person...
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Eight or so years ago (perhaps even more recent than that) I could go buy one days or weeks after they allowed the undrawn applicants to buy and I'd get one every time. Things have changed. I think social media has driven hunting to a contest of kills rather than the experience. Shame if you aske me.
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I just don’t believe they sold almost 2,500 surplus multiseason deer tags in one day.
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It surprises me too. Just imagine what it would be like if there were some deer to hunt.
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I just don’t believe they sold almost 2,500 surplus multiseason deer tags in one day.
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I do, have you ever been involved with any of the out of state "first come, first served" tags...... hours... if not minutes and they are gone
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I'm happy they made it a "first come first serve". Not allowing full benefit of the tag to as many hunters as possible last year was disappointing. Not sure how it can be improved on with as many applicants as there were. Can't make everyone a winner.
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dont believe it? was only 2,500
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So riddle me this I’ve got to three vendors two are all legit outdoor stores and no one knows how I can surrender my tag when I purchased a left over multi…I got hey just give us the tag we will turn it in on sept 10 and you’ll get your tag then. I got yeah just give us it and if you haven’t gotten your tag in the mail yet just hunt and they can look it up(like I’m supposed to have a dead deer and no tag and tell the game warden yeah man look it up tag it for me to if you can thanks bub) and the classic turn it in and when you get your tag you can start to hunt…I bought this to hunt September 1st I took my tag back all three times now I’m violating the hey you got five days to return your tag wtf do I do now?!? This state is f$&?0@
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I got mine the first morning and they kept the tag to send it in , on the computer she marked that I surrendered the original tag to them
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So riddle me this I’ve got to three vendors two are all legit outdoor stores and no one knows how I can surrender my tag when I purchased a left over multi…I got hey just give us the tag we will turn it in on sept 10 and you’ll get your tag then. I got yeah just give us it and if you haven’t gotten your tag in the mail yet just hunt and they can look it up(like I’m supposed to have a dead deer and no tag and tell the game warden yeah man look it up tag it for me to if you can thanks bub) and the classic turn it in and when you get your tag you can start to hunt…I bought this to hunt September 1st I took my tag back all three times now I’m violating the hey you got five days to return your tag wtf do I do now?!? This state is f$&?0@
[/quoteSo riddle me this I’ve got to three vendors two are all legit outdoor stores and no one knows how I can surrender my tag when I purchased a left over multi…I got hey just give us the tag we will turn it in on sept 10 and you’ll get your tag then. I got yeah just give us it and if you haven’t gotten your tag in the mail yet just hunt and they can look it up(like I’m supposed to have a dead deer and no tag and tell the game warden yeah man look it up tag it for me to if you can thanks bub) and the classic turn it in and when you get your tag you can start to hunt…I bought this to hunt September 1st I took my tag back all three times now I’m violating the hey you got five days to return your tag wtf do I do now?!? This state is f$&?0@
Mail it to WDFW in Olympia. When leftover were bought online you had to check a box to either turn into vender or mail it in. Not too complicated.
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So riddle me this I’ve got to three vendors two are all legit outdoor stores and no one knows how I can surrender my tag when I purchased a left over multi…I got hey just give us the tag we will turn it in on sept 10 and you’ll get your tag then. I got yeah just give us it and if you haven’t gotten your tag in the mail yet just hunt and they can look it up(like I’m supposed to have a dead deer and no tag and tell the game warden yeah man look it up tag it for me to if you can thanks bub) and the classic turn it in and when you get your tag you can start to hunt…I bought this to hunt September 1st I took my tag back all three times now I’m violating the hey you got five days to return your tag wtf do I do now?!? This state is f$&?0@
They had the option to mail your tag in, I put mine in the mail last Friday and had to mail it to Olympia, when I called they said you can turn it into your local office as well. I’m going to be pretty annoyed if I don’t have my tag next week but normally I get them in a few days and it shows mine was printed 8/17 so hoping they got them in the mail 8/18
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ok correct me if im wrong i was assuming that they are sending the tag in the mail like all others you buy online. and than when i receive my tag i will send my other tag back in via mail. With a note saying what I'm doing with dates ect. kind like when you turn in a special permit. Am I waiting on nothing, do I have to go to the dealer to get my already purchased tag?.
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i did the option to mail in my tag but I don't trust that I would get my tag in time so I'm not giving up my tag till i have the other one. nor should I have to. I don't feel I'm breaking any laws innless i have to tags in my pocket.
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ok correct me if im wrong i was assuming that they are sending the tag in the mail like all others you buy online. and than when i receive my tag i will send my other tag back in via mail. With a note saying what I'm doing with dates ect. kind like when you turn in a special permit. Am I waiting on nothing, do I have to go to the dealer to get my already purchased tag?.
It said you had 5 days to mail it or surrender to a vendor, so you may want to do that. On the other hand WDFW said they already started sending them out when I called on the 21st after having issues with sportsmans returning it.
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ok correct me if im wrong i was assuming that they are sending the tag in the mail like all others you buy online. and than when i receive my tag i will send my other tag back in via mail. With a note saying what I'm doing with dates ect. kind like when you turn in a special permit. Am I waiting on nothing, do I have to go to the dealer to get my already purchased tag?.
It said you had 5 days to mail it or surrender to a vendor, so you may want to do that. On the other hand WDFW said they already started sending them out when I called on the 21st after having issues with sportsmans returning it.
Trying to figure out if that's business days or calendar days. Will be mailing mine today.
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I mailed mine in....and took lots of pictures with my tag, the letter saying I'm surrendering it because..., the addressed envelope, etc. I don't trust our state or WDFW and want as much evidence that it was sent w/in the time frame. All photos are time stamped so there can't be a dispute as to when it was sent.
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Mailed mine in Friday, MS tag just came in the mail, I'm good to go.
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Mailed mine last week too and just got my tag in the mail today
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No, I don’t believe it. Since the past eight years they historically have about the same amount of surplus tags and they don’t sell out in hours.
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Got mine in the mail today!
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Last 8 years haven't had the opportunity to sell out in hours. Pre-covid they lasted longer.
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The funniest thing with me, is the 5-6 times I have had this tag, I've only punched it once..... keep passing bucks up and run out of time.. :chuckle: Otherwise get my buck every year... just happy to have all the options.