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Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: Typical8 on August 17, 2023, 06:01:51 PM

Title: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: Typical8 on August 17, 2023, 06:01:51 PM: Shouldn’t closed gates in most areas be a gift from God ?
An area we hunted for years behind a closed gate, was just posted. No Hunting No Trespassing! Timber company. We saw it coming ! The last two years the locks were cut or trails were dug around the gates for motorcycles or quads to pass through. We have gotten 4 bears out of there in the last 3 years. This year closed !
Just bummed!
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: Alan K on August 17, 2023, 06:14:22 PM: Frustrating the dirt bag minority out there ruin access opportunities for the rest of us. :bash:
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: Moe the Sleaze on August 17, 2023, 06:16:59 PM: Closed gates are wonderful.
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: duckmen1 on August 17, 2023, 06:53:01 PM: Yeah it sucks. I was in a spot during bear season this year. And a dirtbike was flyimg through the valley and then came up the ridge going all over for hours. Screwed everything up. And the crappy part is the ones that are following the rules get closed out and they keep breaking the rules even when completely closed to all public.
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: MADMAX on August 17, 2023, 07:53:00 PM: Quote from: Moe the Sleaze on August 17, 2023, 06:16:59 PM
Closed gates are wonderful.

Love gates
Hate parking at them (thieves)
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: 2MANY on August 17, 2023, 08:04:34 PM: Sounds like a great place to hike in and hunt.
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: Tenkara on August 17, 2023, 08:20:16 PM: Quote from: 2MANY on August 17, 2023, 08:04:34 PM
Sounds like a great place to hike in and hunt.
Depends , you want to worry if your rig is going to be Waiting for you at the end of the day
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: fishngamereaper on August 17, 2023, 08:29:33 PM: Quote from: Tenkara on August 17, 2023, 08:20:16 PM
Quote from: 2MANY on August 17, 2023, 08:04:34 PM
Sounds like a great place to hike in and hunt.
Depends , you want to worry if your rig is going to be Waiting for you at the end of the day

Or possibly the no hunting no trespassing part may be a deterrent..

Is this Rayonier or Manke land?
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: 2MANY on August 17, 2023, 08:58:40 PM: I was kidding.
Don't blame them one bit for locking it up.
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: hunter399 on August 17, 2023, 09:34:43 PM: Locking it up is good.
Kicking hunters out is not good.
Stupid people screwed the rest of us.
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: ducks4days on August 18, 2023, 06:32:51 AM: Quote from: hunter399 on August 17, 2023, 09:34:43 PM
Stupid people screwed the rest of us.

Same as it ever was
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 18, 2023, 08:49:38 AM: Been saying this for about 12 years since Weyerhauser started locking and charging for access: private landowners have the right to do with their land as they wish. However, they should lose their timber sale tax deferment and have to start paying annual property taxes. They originally got the deferment in the 70s with the unwritten understanding that the public would have recreational access to their vast resources. Although they often use the excuse of property damage and dumping as the reason for the change, many groups were volunteering on cleanups on their property. I was involved in several. This is about an income stream and they should pay taxes as any other land owner pays taxes.
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: fishngamereaper on August 18, 2023, 10:06:43 AM: Timber company's often restrict access this time every year...fire danger is to high..makes sense..

Also depending on where this access is Rayonier is selling off and or subdivided to sell portions of land in the greater Kitsap/ Mason co areas...
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: baldopepper on August 18, 2023, 10:11:43 AM: Also frustrating are the smaller, private landowners who used to give permisson to hunt who got tired of the trespassers who didn't ask. These are usually the same ones that leave gates open, leave messes and get belligerent when asked to leave. Several around here leased their land out for hunting not so much for the money, more because they were tired of dealing with the slobs.
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 18, 2023, 10:46:55 AM: Quote from: Typical8 on August 17, 2023, 06:01:51 PM
Shouldn’t closed gates in most areas be a gift from God ?
An area we hunted for years behind a closed gate, was just posted. No Hunting No Trespassing! Timber company. We saw it coming ! The last two years the locks were cut or trails were dug around the gates for motorcycles or quads to pass through. We have gotten 4 bears out of there in the last 3 years. This year closed !
Just bummed!

Is the timber company name on the notices and have you contacted them about your bear hunting and the benefit to them?
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: dilleytech on August 19, 2023, 01:08:32 PM: You would think the timber company could put up cell cameras in off the ground lock boxes and just send tickets in the mail to people riding around the gate. Win win for everybody.
Title: Re: Closed gates. Thank God!
Post by: hunter399 on August 19, 2023, 02:07:55 PM: Quote from: dilleytech on August 19, 2023, 01:08:32 PM
You would think the timber company could put up cell cameras in off the ground lock boxes and just send tickets in the mail to people riding around the gate. Win win for everybody.

Some go around at gates, others I've seen will make a mile long trail almost always through a new clear to a spur road.

And the trail made 100 feet from the gate.
It's getting bad.

I've seen a lot of pins and locks broken these days.
But with all the ATV/SxS traffic in some places.
It really isn't fair to keep pickups out.

On the other hand ,I'm not exactly sure how there doing it.
Seen it on NF lately too. Those pins and locks get cut pretty quick.
If I had to guess , rechargeable power tools make short work of it.