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Title: Organ Identification Help
Post by: pickardjw on August 26, 2023, 02:57:58 AM: Pulled these out of a black bear last weekend. I feel like I can normally identify lungs, liver, kidneys, etc. but these all look super similar. I feel like 4 and 5 are lungs, but not really sure. Anyone got any ideas?
Title: Re: Organ Identification Help
Post by: Huntnfolk on August 26, 2023, 08:21:16 AM: likely differnt lobes of the lung. People always refer to two lungs, but each lung has lobes. Look at this link and you will see the multiple lobes of a black bear lung.

www.researchgate.net/figure/Lungs-American-black-bear-Ursus-americanus-The-lungs-were-diffusely-enlarged-as_fig1_231212082

I tried to copy the picture, but couldn't get it to post.
Title: Re: Organ Identification Help
Post by: Fidelk on August 26, 2023, 08:23:09 AM: Interesting.....all looks like brisket to me.
Title: Re: Organ Identification Help
Post by: boneaddict on August 26, 2023, 08:43:18 AM: Most people are only interested in saving the gall bladder these days. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Organ Identification Help
Post by: pickardjw on August 26, 2023, 02:15:09 PM: Yeah I was thinking 1,2, 4 and 5 could all be lungs, and maybe 3 is kidney? Is noticeably less dense. We did gutless and the stomach was just huge in the body cavity when we started digging in there for the heart. Liver must have been tucked back behind it.
Title: Re: Organ Identification Help
Post by: Ghost Hunter on August 26, 2023, 03:39:07 PM: Which side of the diaphragm were they on? Heart and lung above, everything else below.
Title: Re: Organ Identification Help
Post by: pickardjw on August 26, 2023, 04:01:54 PM: I want to say these were all in front of it but we cut the diaphragm open so I'm not totally sure.
Title: Re: Organ Identification Help
Post by: dreadi on August 26, 2023, 04:30:54 PM: Liver and lungs are usually noticeably different. These pieces look aged or unhealthy or something else other than fresh and it makes it hard to tell. None of them look like kidneys to me.

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Title: Re: Organ Identification Help
Post by: pickardjw on August 26, 2023, 04:38:14 PM: He sent a 143 eldx right under the spine and over the top of these, so I'm thinking there's some blood coagulation in them giving them the dark color. They weren't quite as dark during butchering from what I remember. Bear appeared to be totally healthy, just a year and a half old sow. They spent probably 5-6 hours from dead bear to the truck and were on ice for about 48hrs when the pic was taken.
Title: Re: Organ Identification Help
Post by: dreadi on August 26, 2023, 04:50:13 PM: Quote from: pickardjw on August 26, 2023, 04:38:14 PM
He sent a 143 eldx right under the spine and over the top of these, so I'm thinking there's some blood coagulation in them giving them the dark color. They weren't quite as dark during butchering from what I remember. Bear appeared to be totally healthy, just a year and a half old sow. They spent probably 5-6 hours from dead bear to the truck and were on ice for about 48hrs when the pic was taken.
Today I just dumped organs from Sunday’s bear and they were still identifiable so your examples and scenario are still puzzling to me. Regardless, kidneys feel like kidney beans, just much larger. Kind of like grabbing one large hairless testicle

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Title: Re: Organ Identification Help
Post by: pickardjw on August 26, 2023, 05:21:09 PM: Maybe she had a third lung :chuckle:
Title: Re: Organ Identification Help
Post by: jrebel on August 26, 2023, 05:59:16 PM: Those are the lungs and the heart. Here is a picture of what your are looking.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Lungs-American-black-bear-Ursus-americanus-The-lungs-were-diffusely-enlarged-as_fig1_231212082
Title: Re: Organ Identification Help
Post by: Caseknife on August 26, 2023, 08:55:17 PM: Agree with @jrebel. The kidneys will be solid, the lungs will feel like you are squishing a bunch of little bubbles, not solid at all. Liver is pretty dense compared to lungs, lays against the diaphragm outside the thoracic cavity. Only thing in the thoracic cavity is the heart and lungs.