Post by: KillBilly on June 05, 2009, 06:43:13 AM
Muzzle brakes reduce recoil by diverting some of these gasses out to the sides, through the vents or ports (holes) taking away a portion of recoil. The effectiveness is dependent on the design of the brake and the caliber of the rifle. You can expect any where from 35 to 50% recoil reduction. A .375 H&H will have the felt recoil of a .30-06; and a .338 will feel close to a .270; a 7mm Rem Mag and a .300 RUM will have the felt recoil of a .243
The muzzle brake, fitted on to the end of your rifle barrel by a qualified gunsmith, will add a few inches to the length of the barrel, with no loss of velocity of the bullet. The bullet never touches the device as it passes through; the expanding gasses still accelerate the bullet as normal. It is the deflected gasses that allow the rifle to remain considerably more still.
The sight picture of the target is easier to engage when "FLINCH" is ELIMINATED from the Mind of the Shooter. Also, when hunting alone without the aid of a "spotter" with binoculars; the quality muzzle brake will Allow the Shooter to Spot His Own Long-Range Shot, and how the animal reacts to the shot.
And yes, there is some Disadvantage to muzzle brakes. The increase of muzzle blast is substantial. They can be VERY LOUD and damaging to the ears! The risks can be diminished hearing with some permanent hearing damage. Regular earmuffs can reduce noise levels by 25dB +/- while the sound levels of a muzzle brake magnum can be as high as 128dB +/-
meaning noise levels with earmuffs on are in excess of 100dB !! A hunter in the field shooting without protection, will experience immediate, and near complete temporary hearing loss. Hearing returns after three or four minutes, but a small portion of hearing is permanently lost each time a shot is fired.
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And yes, there is some Disadvantage to muzzle brakes. The increase of muzzle blast is substantial. They can be VERY LOUD and damaging to the ears!
WHAT??? :chuckle:
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Post by: Chopaka81 on October 10, 2009, 09:24:56 AM
In '85 I had a custom 300 Wby built on a LH M700. That rifle has a 27.5" Douglas bbl that is sporter weight and no muzzle brake. This rifle weighs in at 11 lbs. I have received a magnum eye brow more than once from this puppy over the years, it is much more violent in recoil.
My brother recently had a muzzle brake designed by Shawn Carlock of Defensive Edge put on the M700 factory original 300 RUM. The nice thing about Shawn's brakes is that they vent out the side and not downwards, therefore you do not throw a bunch of dirt up in the air when shooting from the prone position. Plus, Shawn's brake have a tough look to them, that send a very clear non-verbal message.
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Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on November 09, 2009, 05:30:18 PM
I shot my elk this year with a 200 gr bullet from my 300 rum and I was sure glad I had ever bit of gun I had.
Elk are big criters and are better treated as such. Big Bullets out of Big Guns. Of course you can shoot them with smaller cal. and they will die too. But I like to see them bite the dirt when I pull the trigger. :twocents:
Post by: Hornseeker on November 19, 2009, 10:36:10 AM
However...holy mack... this gun kicks "about" like a 243... I have no idea what it would kick like without the break... but its a pleasure that way...
Noise is unbearable though. I am going to see a smith soon to see about replacing it with a nonvented boss or taking the boss completely off and just having a normal barrel....
Ernie
Post by: Buckmark on November 19, 2009, 10:38:35 AM
I have a 300 Winny that came with a boss/brake. I'll tell you what... I HATE shooting it because of the noise...I also HATE hunting with it, because I dont like to hunt with ear plugs and muffs one!!! :o The other day I took a crack at a wounded deer without hearing protection and my left ear is ringing much more than normal (my ears have been ringing for 15 years.... :'()No need to see a gun smith, browning sells a solid boss, called the Boss cr (conventional recoil), for your gun..
However...holy mack... this gun kicks "about" like a 243... I have no idea what it would kick like without the break... but its a pleasure that way...
Noise is unbearable though. I am going to see a smith soon to see about replacing it with a nonvented boss or taking the boss completely off and just having a normal barrel....
Ernie
Post by: Hornseeker on November 29, 2009, 02:01:44 PM
So, have you guys seen the, I think its a savage, that has a muzzle break that opens and closes... that would be cool... while target shooting with your muffs on its open, reducing kick... then when you go hunting, close her up and reduce the boom factor...
Post by: Magnum_Willys on January 02, 2010, 06:34:27 PM
Real men don't need a break on anything less than a 300 RUM or 300-378. My .300 and .338 win mags both shoot like a dream without a break. Composite stock, standard pad.
Post by: konrad on February 07, 2010, 12:13:30 PM
I was a happy guy.
Then I stumbled across an ad for Magna-Port which stated once the bullet leaves the barrel; the propelling gasses travel faster than the bullet and may have the tendency to disturb the flight path. By venting those gasses to the sides and away from the base of the bullet there is less likelihood of disturbing the flight of the projectile near the muzzle. This, in theory, would enhance accuracy.
Being the fellow I am, I sent my prize off to Magna Port. They did their job and when tested over the bags, that rifle will now tear one 40 caliber hole at 100 yards and a one inch group at 200 yards (cold barrel please).
Now, I am a really happy guy.
I never noticed the difference in loudness at the range (hearing protection) although the blast tends to tear insulation off of the ceiling when fired from under a covered shelter.
Yes, I use the rifle for deer, snakes, coyotes and crows (everybody gets the same medicine...). In the field my hearing never seems to be unduly abused.
Another thing about the Magna Port process, it will never become loose, unscrewed or misaligned.
I am sold.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 13, 2010, 02:29:46 PM
THEN I TOOK IT TO A GUN SHOW AND TRADED IT.
TRUE STORY.
Post by: shaneman153D on March 11, 2010, 09:42:09 PM
Annoys the hell out of me.
Post by: runamuk on March 12, 2010, 08:12:40 PM
Can we add a sticky about this too?
Annoys the hell out of me.
some of us are new at this....irritant noted
Post by: shaneman153D on March 13, 2010, 10:14:45 AM
Can we add a sticky about this too?
Annoys the hell out of me.
some of us are new at this....irritant noted
heh, sorry, didn't mean to come off as hostile!
Post by: runamuk on March 19, 2010, 09:44:48 AM
Can we add a sticky about this too?
Annoys the hell out of me.
some of us are new at this....irritant noted
heh, sorry, didn't mean to come off as hostile!
its all good ;)
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Post by: SquirrelHunter on January 08, 2011, 06:59:31 PM
I have a 338Rum iam thinking of putting on a brake so i can shoot it in the offseason,when i first got the gun it had a hard rubber pad and it bruised me from my chest to elbow,put on a limbsaver pad its a lot better,but after 20-30 rounds i get a little flinchy,so iam thinking a brake so i can practice long range,then take it off for hunting.Have you ever thought about a recoil system? i put a bumpmaster recoil system on my .338 winmag, and I can shoot all day, shot about 100 rounds one day at gophers :chuckle:. awsome system, reasonable price, easily put on and take off, oh and my wifes shoots the .338 like its nothin.
Post by: sakoshooter on February 12, 2011, 07:43:08 PM
I have a 338Rum iam thinking of putting on a brake so i can shoot it in the offseason,when i first got the gun it had a hard rubber pad and it bruised me from my chest to elbow,put on a limbsaver pad its a lot better,but after 20-30 rounds i get a little flinchy,so iam thinking a brake so i can practice long range,then take it off for hunting.
I had a muzzle brake put on my .338WMag. I shot it 'as is' for 15 years with hundreds of handloads but in the last year since I put the brake on it, I shoot it more, more accurately, and like it much more. I don't really care about the blast since I'll have my ear muffs(head set)on every time I'm shooting it at a range and will(should)everyone else. As for shooting it in the woods at elk. Never hear nor feel it anyway. I do know that it now kicks on a par w/my 30-06 and I really enjoy shooting it.
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Post by: CSOUTFITTERS on April 11, 2011, 08:28:30 AM
A good friend of mine had a sub 1/2 moa rem .270. He loved that rifle. He had extra cash so he put a brake on it. It shot 3-4" groups after that and he spent several hundred dollars on ammo testing accuracy and many hours at the range. The gunsmith messed up the crown. It was recrowned but my friend still hates the rifle now because he has no confidence in it. The ol saying comes true "if it aint broke dont fix it".
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Post by: Helix on October 06, 2011, 04:17:47 PM
I USED TO OWN A .300 WIN MAG WITH A MUZZLE BRAKE... I SHOT IT AT THE RANGE A FEW TIMES, IT WASN'T SO BAD, THEN I SHOT IT ONCE IN THE FIELD WITHOUT HEARING PROTECTION.
THEN I TOOK IT TO A GUN SHOW AND TRADED IT.
TRUE STORY.
Did you realize you were yelling? Maybe it's the hearing loss from shooting witha break?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 10, 2011, 08:05:46 PM
I have an adjustable muzzle break on my 300 WSM. I have also added a mercury dampening system into the stock. I can crank up the horse power and it still feels like shooting my .243. It will however, suck the air out of your lungs if your standing near it when it goes off with the break open. :oWhich system do you have?
Post by: AOD on November 21, 2011, 02:44:27 PM
Who would need a brake on a 300rum? :dunno: Oh wait let me take a guess, hmmm, someone who probably should not be shooting it in the first place. :PNICE! didn't read the article did you :tup: i shoot a 300rum and have a DE brake on it. it does help me do everything i need to with the rifle INCLUDING SPOTTING MY OWN SHOTS! for the db price, carrying a set of earplugs is well worth picking up the bullet trace.
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Guess I will find out myself in a few days when I get my new toy to the range.
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Post by: Huntbear on June 25, 2012, 10:12:01 AM
i have a 338 win mag and am debating putting a brake on it. it has the hard recoil pad on it so i think i'll try a limbsaver first. i was curious if anyone has magna-ported their rifle? is the sound from a magna port just as bad as a brake?
I like the old Vais acorn shaped muzzle brakes. They work awesome. My brother's custom 338 WM that I built him kicks less than an 06 with the brake on, and a good Decelerator pad.
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Post by: SquirrelHunter on November 13, 2012, 08:08:33 PM
would a muzzle brake help or be dumb on a 300 win mag? i love my 300, but, I also happen to love high grain ammo :chuckle: but .. it kicks so hard im not as accurate as I am with other guns.
You shouls check out the web site NO-KICK, ordered a a recoil reducer for my 338WM and can shoot all day with no flinching
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