Post by: TeacherMan on June 05, 2009, 03:18:59 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on June 05, 2009, 03:27:21 PM
The new law discriminates against the person that does not have a conealed carry permit. Washington is an 'Open Carry' state. Always has been. But that's a different argument.
So, if a hunter has a pistol and bow legally in their posession during any Deer/Grouse season, I feel that any judge would have to realise that if you have a pistol trained on a Grouse, at that point in time, you are a Grouse hunter. Not a Deer hunter. It is legal to harvest Grouse with a pistol. (Just shoot the head off!)
-Steve
Post by: TeacherMan on June 05, 2009, 03:32:18 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on June 05, 2009, 03:40:09 PM
He/she sees you with pistol trained on an animal he can't see. You shoot. You miss that Grouse. Fly's off. He/she could ticket you for shooting at a Deer, (that he couldn't see), during Bow season/witout proper harvest tag. So, you had better aim well and recover that Grouse.
Remember to never dispatch an arrow shot Deer/Elk with Archery tag, with your pistol. That is not, and most likely never will be legal.
-Steve
Post by: YellowDog on June 05, 2009, 04:18:50 PM
Now, here's the gray area...Not trying to be argumentative but I don't think this is a a gray area. I don't believe being a bad shot is a violation of the law :dunno:. I know that they use RoboDeer to catch guys shooting before or after legal hours and/or in closed units without proper permits and if you shoot and miss, you are still breaking the law if you are spotlighting RoboDeer and are dumb enough to pull the trigger.
He/she sees you with pistol trained on an animal he can't see. You shoot. You miss that Grouse. Fly's off. He/she could ticket you for shooting at a Deer, (that he couldn't see), during Bow season/witout proper harvest tag. So, you had better aim well and recover that Grouse.
-Steve
Lets say I have an archery deer/elk tag and want to go up to the woods to target practice with my bow AND with a pistol. I am not hunting. A warden can't prove I am hunting and I have not shot an animal so I have not broken the law. If you have modern firarm deer and elk tags and you decide you want to go hunt coyotes during the archery season with a rifle you can do so without breaking the law. Similarly if you call in a coyote and miss, the warden can't prove that you were actually shooting at a deer or elk with a firearm during an archery only season.
By the way, I agree that the limitation on carrying a sidearm during archery seasons is dumb. The old idea that having a sidearm creates too much temptation for the hunter to use said firearm to shoot his deer/elk does not fly with me. There is a joke out there about a woman fishing on a lake that has live bait in her boat but she is not using it. The warden tries to ticket her for using live bait in an artificial bait only lake. She replies by saying he raped her. He is gets infuriated at her accusation and says "how do you figure I raped you?". She says, well, I assume you are a man and have all of the necessary equipment so you must be guilty of rape, right?
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on June 07, 2009, 12:00:23 AM
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Not trying to be argumentative but I don't think this is a a gray area.
That's called a discussion. Certainly not argumentative. I think there's potential for misinterpretation of exactly what's in process. You're right, this should never happen.
We all know of citations written for gray area issues.
-Steve
Post by: ICEMAN on June 07, 2009, 07:13:09 AM
IMHO...The fact is that wildlife is going to have a hard time proving anything with this law... It is what it is...
Post by: Gutpile on June 07, 2009, 07:40:26 AM
Well, I'm not all the hot on how the new law is written and think this will be challenged soon.
The new law discriminates against the person that does not have a conealed carry permit. Washington is an 'Open Carry' state. Always has been. But that's a different argument.
So, if a hunter has a pistol and bow legally in their posession during any Deer/Grouse season, I feel that any judge would have to realise that if you have a pistol trained on a Grouse, at that point in time, you are a Grouse hunter. Not a Deer hunter. It is legal to harvest Grouse with a pistol. (Just shoot the head off!)
-Steve
One way not be be discriminated against is to just go get a permit. I see your point but there's an easy fix. I'm not a bowhunter but if I were I wouldn't be shooting grouse while hunting deer or elk but I can't imagine it'd be a problem.
Post by: Hunterman on June 07, 2009, 09:32:33 AM
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: blindpig on June 07, 2009, 09:33:33 AM
Post by: JBar on June 07, 2009, 09:43:00 AM
Post by: MIKEXRAY on June 07, 2009, 10:17:05 AM
Post by: KillBilly on June 07, 2009, 10:28:35 AM
I'm a bow hunter, so when I see a grouse I like to shoot it with my bow. The idea of harvesting an animal with my bow is the ultimate experience. Back to the idea if it is legal or not, I would say no. For personal protection does not include grouse, unless that grouse is in the process of stalking you for the purpose of killing you. I don't know how far the "In fear of your life" thing applies. I'm carrying a pistol with me this year, just like every year. I'm not going to let a law get in the way of my personal safety and the safety of my hunting buddies. :twocents:
How many other laws don't you care about breaking? I'm taking notes... need extra points... :IBCOOL:
:bdid: to announce that : I'm not going to let a law get in the way of my personal safety and the safety of my hunting buddies."
Post by: gasman on June 07, 2009, 10:30:32 AM
:dunno:
Here is what i asked.
"If i am bow hunting deer or elk, can i legally shoot another game animal with my pistol?"
"Example would be legal game animal like, grouse, coyote, bear, etc. "
Post by: BK Dave on June 07, 2009, 10:45:26 AM
I don't think anybody in this state really gets it!! "some" of you NemRods just think you can push the envelope, and nothing will happen! Your so wrong. Remember motorised decoys?? or that favorite logging road you used to drive? If you abuse a privilege, then the state totally bans anything to do with it!!! I mean come on....
There are 3 methods of taking big game in this state, if you want to carry a gun, buy a Modern firearm license!!! if you want to get away from a bunch of folks wearing hunters-orange and making big bangs!!! (come be a bowhunter) but don't bring your guns and your "grey areas"!!!!!
IMHO Allowing anybody to carry a gun during archery season for "ANY" reason is a bad idea!!
If you want to shoot a grouse, use an old arrow. It's fun and wont cost you a thing if you "hit"your target.
By the way, I have nothing against "Gun hunting"at all, I would like to think that even the Gun hunters would agree with me, on carrying a firearm during bow season isn't fare to them as well.??
Post by: ICEMAN on June 07, 2009, 10:58:10 AM
Secondly, the main issue here is about our constitutional right to bear arms, during any thing we want to do, at any time we want to do it, (accept for the very few areas where guns are banned, schools, bars, etc...very few.) You should be concerned with your right to carry. Being a Bowhunter, and your right to carry are two complete different things. Bowhunting should not cancel your right to carry.
Apparently some guys choose to bow hunt deer and elk, to take advantage of the hunting opportunity for those two species...and still want to shoot a grouse or bear with a handgun. I have no problem with this.
Post by: JBar on June 07, 2009, 11:19:56 AM
I also don't think it's legal to use your pistol to kill a grouse while bowhunting. I think they would write a ticket. It does state for protection. I really like being able to carry legally for protection during archery & hope people don't screw it up by stretching the grey areas. Use the pistol for the intent granted and hunt grouse another day. my :twocents: Mike
Pg. 64, section 11, paragraph 2 under prohibited hunting methods states " It is illegal to hunt gamebirds with a rifle or pistol except forest grouse " This is not a grey area, if I am traveling to my intended area to hunt deer/elk with my bow and come across a grouse I have the right to shoot at that grouse with whichever method I choose. The carry law states you must have a CWP while in the field, I don't consider being in the field until I have exited my vehicle with the intent to hunt. It is then that a choice is made by any reasonable person what they intend to hunt ( grouse , deer or whatever ). I do make every conscious effort NOT to mess up someone Else's hunt with a shot from a shotgun, loud car door or even horning into an area someone is actively hunting but if the opportunity arises and I have a firearm I will try to make good on that opportunity within the law. This is not pushing the envelope or riding on the wrong side of the line IMO. I will be carrying this year while in the field but with the intent the law was meant for but with a larger handgun as I don't believe a .22 is adequate protection.
Post by: BK Dave on June 07, 2009, 11:29:44 AM
First off, it's Nimrod not "Nemrod".Yeah your right, 100%
Secondly, the main issue here is about our constitutional right to bear arms, during any thing we want to do, at any time we want to do it, (accept for the very few areas where guns are banned, schools, bars, etc...very few.) You should be concerned with your right to carry. Being a Bowhunter, and your right to carry are two complete different things. Bowhunting should not cancel your right to carry.
Apparently some guys choose to bow hunt deer and elk, to take advantage of the hunting opportunity for those two species...and still want to shoot a grouse or bear with a handgun. I have no problem with this.
Infact, who the heck am I to buy a archery tag and leave my guns at home! you know... I think I am going to buy a Muzzleloader tag this year, but really bring my 30.06 (constitutional right) and I'll take a Glock 9mm with me to boot!! heck I should be able to bring a M-16 with me just in case I get attacked by a Pack of Rabid cougars!!!
:mgun:
I have the "NEW POST" how many of you have "Ever" been attacked by a wild Animal?? (and what happend??)
Post by: bankwalker on June 07, 2009, 11:48:39 AM
Well, I'm not all the hot on how the new law is written and think this will be challenged soon.
The new law discriminates against the person that does not have a conealed carry permit. Washington is an 'Open Carry' state. Always has been. But that's a different argument.
So, if a hunter has a pistol and bow legally in their posession during any Deer/Grouse season, I feel that any judge would have to realise that if you have a pistol trained on a Grouse, at that point in time, you are a Grouse hunter. Not a Deer hunter. It is legal to harvest Grouse with a pistol. (Just shoot the head off!)
-Steve
thats the way i look at it. and the way a friend has done it for years. he is "bear" hunting, and just so happens to have a "deer" tag with him while bear hunting.
Post by: littlebuf on June 07, 2009, 12:01:37 PM
Post by: furbearer365 on June 07, 2009, 12:37:31 PM
Post by: blindpig on June 07, 2009, 01:21:32 PM
Post by: Kain on June 07, 2009, 03:42:11 PM
IMHO Allowing anybody to carry a gun during archery season for "ANY" reason is a bad idea!!
If you want to shoot a grouse, use an old arrow. It's fun and wont cost you a thing if you "hit"your target.
By the way, I have nothing against "Gun hunting"at all, I would like to think that even the Gun hunters would agree with me, on carrying a firearm during bow season isn't fare to them as well.??
First off let me say I have been an archery hunter (for deer and elk) for over 20 year. That being said I dont know why some archery and muzzleloader hunters think they own the woods during their season. You have target shooters, small game hunters, varmint hunters, bear hunters and coug...(oh wait they already got that taken away from everyone) that are allowed to hunt with firearms during archery and muzzleloader season. Probably some upland and waterfowl season too. Why would you think it would be alright to force people to leave their guns at home just because YOU bought an archery deer tag. F'n people think the world revolves around them. The only thing an archery deer tag should limit you on is the weapon you can shoot a deer with.
Post by: JBar on June 07, 2009, 03:47:17 PM
Post by: littlebuf on June 07, 2009, 03:52:52 PM
Post by: MIKEXRAY on June 07, 2009, 04:06:48 PM
I also don't think it's legal to use your pistol to kill a grouse while bowhunting. I think they would write a ticket. It does state for protection. I really like being able to carry legally for protection during archery & hope people don't screw it up by stretching the grey areas. Use the pistol for the intent granted and hunt grouse another day. my :twocents: Mike
Pg. 64, section 11, paragraph 2 under prohibited hunting methods states " It is illegal to hunt gamebirds with a rifle or pistol except forest grouse " This is not a grey area, if I am traveling to my intended area to hunt deer/elk with my bow and come across a grouse I have the right to shoot at that grouse with whichever method I choose. The carry law states you must have a CWP while in the field, I don't consider being in the field until I have exited my vehicle with the intent to hunt. It is then that a choice is made by any reasonable person what they intend to hunt ( grouse , deer or whatever ). I do make every conscious effort NOT to mess up someone Else's hunt with a shot from a shotgun, loud car door or even horning into an area someone is actively hunting but if the opportunity arises and I have a firearm I will try to make good on that opportunity within the law. This is not pushing the envelope or riding on the wrong side of the line IMO. I will be carrying this year while in the field but with the intent the law was meant for but with a larger handgun as I don't believe a .22 is adequate protection.
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Post by: JBar on June 07, 2009, 04:46:01 PM
Post by: MIKEXRAY on June 07, 2009, 04:56:33 PM
Post by: KillBilly on June 07, 2009, 05:02:32 PM
Go ahead killbilly be a rat if you want, you are not going to be there to save me if a bear charges or a cat pounces. I carry mine legally with a permit so you can put that down in your book. :sas:
Since you are so damned smart... I may just pass your name on as a person of Interest to the game department. Legal or not, you are stating that you are above the law and going to do what you want lawful or not. I am sure they will always treat you with high respect.... :chuckle: :chuckle:
What a goofball
Post by: gasman on June 07, 2009, 05:40:25 PM
If I am bow hunting for deer or elk and see a grouse, coyte, or even a bear (i carry a bear tag with me) and would rather shoot it with my 44mag, could i be ticketed? (it's my choice to make)
Its not about other hunters, wether it is rite or wrong, its about "legality" of it. Easch of us make our own decition, and it is not up to me to judge others, or others to judge me and my choice..........
In all my years i have never had any reason to believe i was personaly threatened by another to need a side arm, but it does not mean it will never happen. I have seen some suspicious things in the woods and heard storys from other where they felt or were threatened.
Pete
Post by: BK Dave on June 07, 2009, 05:46:24 PM
IMHO Allowing anybody to carry a gun during archery season for "ANY" reason is a bad idea!!
If you want to shoot a grouse, use an old arrow. It's fun and wont cost you a thing if you "hit"your target.
By the way, I have nothing against "Gun hunting"at all, I would like to think that even the Gun hunters would agree with me, on carrying a firearm during bow season isn't fare to them as well.??
First off let me say I have been an archery hunter (for deer and elk) for over 20 year. That being said I don't know why some archery and muzzle loader hunters think they own the woods during their season. You have target shooters, small game hunters, varmint hunters, bear hunters and coug...(oh wait they already got that taken away from everyone) that are allowed to hunt with firearms during archery and muzzleloader season. Probably some upland and waterfowl season too. Why would you think it would be alright to force people to leave their guns at home just because YOU bought an archery deer tag. F'n people think the world revolves around them. The only thing an archery deer tag should limit you on is the weapon you can shoot a deer with.
I can see how I worded that wrong! sorry and let me rephrase my self.
I didn't mean to come across as some one who owns the woods. I don't have a problem with "small game hunters" or what ever else you chose to do, during this season ,however my point was "if you are holding a bow in your hand" and you have a Archery tag in your pocket, YOU ARE ARCERY HUNTING!!!!! I don't buy in to this crap about :oh I'm carrying this 6" 44mag (scoped) for "self defence" give me a break!!
Now if you are walking thru the woods with your favorite bird dog and a 12gage, you are "bird hunting" or if you are "rifle" hunting Bear or Cat (with out a bow) your not archery hunting!
The Regs Clearly state that :Archery Regulations
1. Rules pertaining to all archery:
a. It is unlawful for any person to carry or
have in his possession any firearm while in
the field archery hunting, during an archery
season specified for that area, except for
modern handguns carried for personal
protection if that person possesses a
concealed pistol license as defined by
RCW 9.41.070. Modern handguns cannot
be used to hunt big game or dispatch
wounded big game during an archery, big
game hunting season.
So where in that do you see that it's OK to shoot grouse with a 22?? or discharge a firearm of anykind while you are in an "established" archery camp???
Post by: gasman on June 07, 2009, 05:53:18 PM
The moment i chose to hunt grouse with my pistol i am no longer archery hunting for big game, i am a grouse hunter.
Post by: BK Dave on June 07, 2009, 06:00:51 PM
I believe that is why "clarifacation" is needed.
The moment i chose to hunt grouse with my pistol i am no longer archery hunting for big game, i am a grouse hunter.
This should make it Clear!!!
:Modern handguns cannot
be used to hunt big game or dispatch
wounded big game during an archery, big
game hunting season.
Post by: Hunterman on June 07, 2009, 06:02:12 PM
Myself,,I am not going to shoot a grouse with a .45, but I will shoot a meth maggot if they are threatening me!!!
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: Alpinegus on June 07, 2009, 06:02:18 PM
Some of us have packstock; and when it is dark at night, it will be nice to have the handgun for protection when your packstock is tethered. I like the new rule/law for this reason.
Regarding shooting at other animals... I look forward for archery season to start all year. I get one week off. Why would I or anyone in the same boat take a chance on chasing away your buck or elk, by shooting at a goose or what have you with a hand gun.
If this is your intention...your not focused on big game archery hunting. :archer:
Post by: gasman on June 07, 2009, 06:19:33 PM
I believe that is why "clarifacation" is needed.
The moment i chose to hunt grouse with my pistol i am no longer archery hunting for big game, i am a grouse hunter.
This should make it Clear!!!
:Modern handguns cannot
be used to hunt big game or dispatch
wounded big game during an archery, big
game hunting season.
No, you have cleared nothing up.
No where in this thread do i recall any one asking about shooting or dispatching of a big game durring deer or elk season.......
The key word is "LEGALY".......
:bash:
What part of "LEGALY" is miss understood. :dunno: Not your "OPION".
Post by: BK Dave on June 07, 2009, 06:27:57 PM
I just sent off a e-mail to the WDFW. we will see what there responce is.
:dunno:
Here is what i asked.
"If i am bow hunting deer or elk, can i legally shoot another game animal with my pistol?"
"Example would be legal game animal like, grouse, coyote, bear, etc. "
:yeah:
MAYBE THIS WILL JOG YOUR MEMORY :dunno: "YOU WROTE IT!!"
Post by: gasman on June 07, 2009, 06:57:24 PM
This should make it Clear!!!
:Modern handguns cannot
be used to hunt big game or dispatch
wounded big game during an archery, big
game hunting season.
[/quote]
How does this statement clarify this question?
"If i am bow hunting deer or elk, can i legally shoot another game animal with my pistol?"
"Example would be legal game animal like, grouse, coyote, bear, etc. "
The statement you posted talks abut killing or dispatching big game like deer or elk, not other game animals like grouse or yotes.
Post by: blindpig on June 07, 2009, 08:23:27 PM
Post by: BK Dave on June 07, 2009, 08:40:41 PM
I think I have said what I have to say, and others have to, I think we should just leave it at that?
I'll admit that I may have been a little out of line with some of my comments eg:nimrods:
I apologise :(
Gasman, I'm sure your a cool dude and your views should be respected and there is to much grey area for any of this to make "legal" sense!!
Have a good day
BK
Post by: heavy hauler on June 07, 2009, 08:43:29 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 07, 2009, 08:48:45 PM
I'll admit that I may have been a little out of line with some of my comments eg:nimrods:
I never understood why the term "nimrod" is sometimes used as if it's a derogatory remark. This is the definition from dictionary.com:
Nim⋅rod /ˈnɪmrɒd/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [nim-rod] Show IPA
–noun 1. the great-grandson of Noah: noted as a great hunter. Gen. 10:8–10.
2. (sometimes lowercase) a person expert in or devoted to hunting.
Post by: gasman on June 07, 2009, 08:53:18 PM
Gasman, I'm sure your a cool dude and your views should be respected and there is to much grey area for any of this to make "legal" sense!
BK
We all have our own opion and that is fine, but we must not let our personal opion get in the way of what is, actual, fact or legal for that matter.
That is why i e-mailed the WDFW to clarify this subject. We all have our opion on what it is, but what we all need to know is the legal stand point of something like this.
It is better to "know fact" than to guess or go by opion........for all of us..................
Pete
And by the way, we are all friends here :hello:
Post by: bobcat on June 07, 2009, 09:04:05 PM
Post by: blindpig on June 07, 2009, 09:12:27 PM
Post by: EastWaViking on June 07, 2009, 09:16:00 PM
Post by: BK Dave on June 07, 2009, 09:33:55 PM
I'll admit that I may have been a little out of line with some of my comments eg:nimrods:
I never understood why the term "nimrod" is sometimes used as if it's a derogatory remark. This is the definition from dictionary.com:
Nim⋅rod /ˈnɪmrɒd/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [nim-rod] Show IPA
–noun 1. the great-grandson of Noah: noted as a great hunter. Gen. 10:8–10.
2. (sometimes lowercase) a person expert in or devoted to hunting.
Nimrod means "let us revolt." In the context of Genesis 10, there is absolutely no mention of animals that he supposedly hunted. The context has to do with the description of character, moral spirituality, and culture. Nimrod was a mighty man, a mighty hunter in terms of men :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: alecvg on June 07, 2009, 09:56:12 PM
Wake The FU%$ up Guys!!!!!!!! :bdid:
I don't think anybody in this state really gets it!! "some" of you NemRods just think you can push the envelope, and nothing will happen! Your so wrong. Remember motorised decoys?? or that favorite logging road you used to drive? If you abuse a privilege, then the state totally bans anything to do with it!!! I mean come on....
There are 3 methods of taking big game in this state, if you want to carry a gun, buy a Modern firearm license!!! if you want to get away from a bunch of folks wearing hunters-orange and making big bangs!!! (come be a bowhunter) but don't bring your guns and your "grey areas"!!!!!
IMHO Allowing anybody to carry a gun during archery season for "ANY" reason is a bad idea!!
If you want to shoot a grouse, use an old arrow. It's fun and wont cost you a thing if you "hit"your target.
By the way, I have nothing against "Gun hunting"at all, I would like to think that even the Gun hunters would agree with me, on carrying a firearm during bow season isn't fare to them as well.??
What about having a .44 for a bear or lion attack? There is noting wrong with that...
Post by: BK Dave on June 07, 2009, 10:02:43 PM
Post by: alecvg on June 07, 2009, 11:35:11 PM
First off, it's Nimrod not "Nemrod".Yeah your right, 100%
Secondly, the main issue here is about our constitutional right to bear arms, during any thing we want to do, at any time we want to do it, (accept for the very few areas where guns are banned, schools, bars, etc...very few.) You should be concerned with your right to carry. Being a Bowhunter, and your right to carry are two complete different things. Bowhunting should not cancel your right to carry.
Apparently some guys choose to bow hunt deer and elk, to take advantage of the hunting opportunity for those two species...and still want to shoot a grouse or bear with a handgun. I have no problem with this.
Infact, who the heck am I to buy a archery tag and leave my guns at home! you know... I think I am going to buy a Muzzleloader tag this year, but really bring my 30.06 (constitutional right) and I'll take a Glock 9mm with me to boot!! heck I should be able to bring a M-16 with me just in case I get attacked by a Pack of Rabid cougars!!!
:mgun:
I have the "NEW POST" how many of you have "Ever" been attacked by a wild Animal?? (and what happend??)
Never been attacked, but have been charged, and it is scared the *censored* outa me.... I am going to have a side arm if it is legal.
Post by: Aneoakleaf on June 07, 2009, 11:42:30 PM
Most of us who hunt with our bows want the pistol along for protection from beasts like the ones who stole my elk in the 80...or how about the cougar that tracked me last year . If it had jumped me I could not have pulled my bow and shot it. I could have possibly pulled a pistol. Luck was on my side and I made the decision to call it closer and shot it with an arrow at 5 yards. :yike:
My ten grandkids would have missed me but now I have protection in the event that luck is not on my side and I have to rely on survival instinct. We deserve the option to "carry" if we choose and now we can choose. It's not a matter of ...being a bowhunter or gun hunter...that's stupid to even bring into the equation. Do the right thing and protect yourself from predators so your family won't have to go on without you. :chuckle:
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 08, 2009, 05:24:50 AM
Post by: MADMAX on June 08, 2009, 06:21:25 AM
( he considered it in the the "field", I considered it in the truck.)
I'm happy we can carry a sidearm legally and just picked up .41 for that purpose, mostly for the low lifes that like to mess with peoples vehicles and camps.
It does make me feel better knowing I have it if I ever have to spend a night in the woods.
Post by: blindpig on June 08, 2009, 07:24:05 AM
Post by: EastWaViking on June 08, 2009, 07:30:59 AM
Geez, all of this is it legal for grouse crap is just nuts, I have been hassled for just having a 20 guage unloaded on the back seat of the truck floor by the game cops during archery season
( he considered it in the the "field", I considered it in the truck.)
I'm happy we can carry a sidearm legally and just picked up .41 for that purpose, mostly for the low lifes that like to mess with peoples vehicles and camps.
It does make me feel better knowing I have it if I ever have to spend a night in the woods.
:yeah: X2
If a see a grouse, I have a bow. If I see a buck, I have a bow, If a bear is chewing on my leg, I will now have a .44
Post by: Aneoakleaf on June 08, 2009, 07:51:44 AM
You might want to poll your 10 grandkids and see if they really would have missed you? :chuckle::nono: :angel: :rolleyes: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: bearmanric on June 08, 2009, 08:32:03 AM
Post by: MADMAX on June 08, 2009, 09:01:42 AM
Post by: gasman on June 08, 2009, 03:23:03 PM
Thank you for your recent e-mail to the Department of Fish and Wildlife. Your question has been forwarded to me for a response.
The current archery regulations allow an archery hunter with a concealed pistol license to possess modern handguns for personal protection but they do not authorize an archer to use them for any hunting.
If an individual is in the field archery hunting for a deer or elk season specified for that area, they may only use archery equipment. If that same individual wishes to hunt bear with a firearm, the archery gear should be stowed away first.
Mik Mikitik
Department of Fish and Wildlife
Enforcement Program
Hunter Education Division
This is the question i asked:
If i am bow hunting deer or elk, can i legally shoot another game animal with my pistol?
Example would be legal game animal like, grouse, coyote, bear, etc.
Post by: gasman on June 08, 2009, 03:55:03 PM
If i am bow hunting deer or elk, can i legally shoot another game animal with my pistol?
Example would be legal game animal like, grouse, coyote, bear, etc.
The Offical answer from the WDFW:
Thank you for your recent e-mail to the Department of Fish and Wildlife. Your question has been forwarded to me for a response.
The current archery regulations allow an archery hunter with a concealed pistol license to possess modern handguns for personal protection but they do not authorize an archer to use them for any hunting.
If an individual is in the field archery hunting for a deer or elk season specified for that area, they may only use archery equipment. If that same individual wishes to hunt bear with a firearm, the archery gear should be stowed away first.
Mik Mikitik
Department of Fish and Wildlife
Enforcement ProgramHunter Education Division
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