Post by: n_mathews13 on September 17, 2023, 07:12:20 PM
For this I am willing to give up gas, time, and work for.
Are you going?
https://www.gohunt.com/content/news/washington-state-hunting-is-under-attack-and-why-you-should-pay-attention
Post by: HillHound on September 17, 2023, 08:44:44 PM
Post by: MADMAX on September 17, 2023, 09:28:37 PM
No coincidence there huh ?
Post by: n_mathews13 on September 17, 2023, 09:49:09 PM
Just wanted more info on this
Post by: hughjorgan on September 17, 2023, 10:36:05 PM
Is there more articles on this that you know of?
Just wanted more info on this
https://nwsportsmanmag.com/op-ed-the-changing-landscape-of-language-in-washington-game-management/
Post by: Pacific Ghost on September 18, 2023, 09:27:41 AM
Post by: Irish_hunter93 on September 18, 2023, 11:52:33 AM
Post by: n_mathews13 on September 18, 2023, 03:18:45 PM
It makes a guy want to cry emailing one’s thoughts like that
Also I thought it was interesting and funny that when the website pulled up and the options came up. I wanted to email the “report a violation “ department
Seemed appropriate
Post by: Jake Dogfish on September 18, 2023, 03:28:42 PM
I have never went to these in person.
For this I am willing to give up gas, time, and work for.
Are you going?
https://www.gohunt.com/content/news/washington-state-hunting-is-under-attack-and-why-you-should-pay-attention
“At the commissioner’s August meeting, they also discussed their plan and desire to end all bear and mountain lion hunting in the state as early as April of 2024.”
What was said specifically? I’ve never heard any of the commissioners say this.
Post by: n_mathews13 on September 18, 2023, 07:36:36 PM
And I am a bit surprised it isnt bigger deal on here.
Post by: npaull on September 18, 2023, 08:23:14 PM
Post by: millerwheeler on September 18, 2023, 08:35:25 PM
Post by: actionshooter on September 18, 2023, 08:40:11 PM
I hadn’t either. I can’t say I’m the best at keeping up with this stuff but man this has gotten to me.
And I am a bit surprised it isnt bigger deal on here.
Same here.... the majority are still sitting on their hands... can't believe people are ignorant enough to think it can't happen. Still seeing and hearing people everyday say "they can't do that"... well guess what.. :(
Post by: MADMAX on September 18, 2023, 08:40:33 PM
Im sure people are sending their comments in
I did
I’ve also tried to attend similar events in Olympia before
Parking sucks
Written comments can be emailed to commission@dfw.wa.gov, or sent by postal mail to:
Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission
Post Office Box 43200
Olympia, WA 98504-3200
Post by: n_mathews13 on September 18, 2023, 09:06:32 PM
Post by: BlackRiverTaxidermy on September 18, 2023, 09:07:28 PM
There’s another meeting coming up sooner in September as well. Much appreciated to you who have written commissioners and been involved….this is a fight, and they’re playing dirty on many fronts to include threats of taking bear and cougar away as well as saying they’ve considered making elk a draw system only for the state. This and planning these meetings in prime time hunting seasons….these are the tactics they are using.
Post by: logola512c on September 19, 2023, 09:54:00 AM
Post by: npaull on September 19, 2023, 10:15:45 AM
Post by: mcrawfordaf on September 19, 2023, 10:19:23 AM
Could someone post the link to submit online comments, as well? Thx.
Written Comments
Please reference the agenda item or subject when submitting either email or mail comments.
Written comments provided after rulemaking and SEPA comment period closures are discouraged. Comments provided after the official hearing or APA-designated public comment period may not be considered or included in the formal record.
If you wish to provide written comment to the Commission at an upcoming meeting, it needs to be received by 8 am on the Thursday before the Commission meeting so that Commissioners have time to review them before the meeting starts. Any written public comment received during the Commission meeting will be distributed the following Monday to Commissioners so they can concentrate on the Commission meeting content. Further, the Commission may establish alternative public comment deadlines for specific topics/specific meetings, which will be noticed on their agendas.
Written comments can be emailed to commission@dfw.wa.gov, or sent by postal mail to:
Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission
Post Office Box 43200
Olympia, WA 98504-3200
OR https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/contact (https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/contact)
Agenda items can be found here: https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/meetings/2023/28-30sep2023-agenda (https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/meetings/2023/28-30sep2023-agenda)
Post by: actionshooter on September 19, 2023, 09:10:01 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on September 20, 2023, 05:24:11 AM
Post by: hughjorgan on September 20, 2023, 07:01:02 AM
So nothing ever came about for outing Smith for her violation about being on a board of advisors and the commission?
She resigned her county commission position and stayed on the WDFW commission
Post by: actionshooter on September 20, 2023, 07:46:38 PM
:rolleyes:So nothing ever came about for outing Smith for her violation about being on a board of advisors and the commission?
She resigned her county commission position and stayed on the WDFW commission
Are you sure? We were told the other night that the state appealed on her behalf.
Post by: MADMAX on September 21, 2023, 02:21:39 PM
OLYMPIA – The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) has extended a public comment period about the Department’s proposed rule change to revise how WDFW issues black bear timber damage depredation permits. The public now has until Friday, Oct. 27 to submit comments.
A copy of the rule making proposal is available on the WDFW website. The public can submit comments via web form, by email, or by phone (855-925-2801, project code 5474). The public may also mail written comments to Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife ATTN: Wildlife Program, PO Box 43200, Olympia, WA 98504.
Members of the public who have already submitted comments as part of this proposal do not need to re-submit their comments.
The Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission will accept in-person and virtual public comments on the proposed rule change at a rescheduled public hearing during their Oct. 26-28 meeting in Olympia. Those interested in providing comments during the meeting should pre-register online. Information on how to pre-register will be made available on the Commission Meeting webpage. A decision is tentatively scheduled for the November 2023 meeting.
All members of the public are invited to share their perspectives and participate in WDFW public feedback opportunities regardless of race, color, sex, age, national origin, language proficiency, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity and/or expression, status as a veteran, or basis of disability.
The Department’s proposal would provide a process for WDFW to issue permits for individuals to lethally remove black bears in specific locations where black bears damage commercial timber. The proposed rule, if adopted, would identify how permits could be applied for, the conditions of the permits, and how the Department would manage applications.
The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife works to preserve, protect, and perpetuate fish, wildlife, and ecosystems while providing sustainable fish and wildlife recreational and commercial opportunities.
Post by: mcrawfordaf on September 21, 2023, 02:48:38 PM
Extension was needed :chuckle:
Post by: The100Road on September 21, 2023, 03:29:22 PM
There are only about 10 or so comments against the Bear Timber Damage proposal...
Extension was needed :chuckle:
:yeah:
Post by: GASoline71 on September 21, 2023, 03:41:26 PM
There are only about 10 or so comments against the Bear Timber Damage proposal...
Extension was needed :chuckle:
There are commissioners on record saying that public comment is a huge consideration in their decision making. Now that hunters are more vocal, it's biting them in the rear.
Gary
Post by: BigredRusch on September 23, 2023, 10:07:05 AM
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Post by: hughjorgan on September 23, 2023, 02:18:33 PM
:rolleyes:So nothing ever came about for outing Smith for her violation about being on a board of advisors and the commission?
She resigned her county commission position and stayed on the WDFW commission
Are you sure? We were told the other night that the state appealed on her behalf.
Appealed what? To stay on both commissions?
There is a nwsportsmanmag article on the outcome…
https://nwsportsmanmag.com/lorna-smith-resigns-from-jeff-co-planning-commission/
Post by: npaull on September 23, 2023, 05:47:57 PM
Do people know already what's going to be discussed? (if so, how?).
I'd like to be prepared to say something impactful but it would be helpful to know what's going to be on the agenda...
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 23, 2023, 07:09:27 PM
Looks like the agenda items haven't been posted yet.
Do people know already what's going to be discussed? (if so, how?).
I'd like to be prepared to say something impactful but it would be helpful to know what's going to be on the agenda...
Commission year at a glance
Post by: MADMAX on September 23, 2023, 07:40:57 PM
Post by: Ocurtis on September 24, 2023, 08:34:10 PM
I can't be there but I'll write comment and call in as well
Post by: millerwheeler on September 25, 2023, 11:56:18 AM
Post by: Ocurtis on September 25, 2023, 12:46:38 PM
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 25, 2023, 12:56:30 PM
for sure, it would be great if a moderator could pin this in every single forum section.
Man just post it everywhere you can. If you need a copy and paste of details to put on let me know!
Post by: MADMAX on September 25, 2023, 01:04:02 PM
Like “ Game commission meeting - are you going ?”
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 25, 2023, 01:07:14 PM
Maybe a title edit
Like “ Game commission meeting - are you going ?”
The thing is we need people at every meeting, not just October and December. We haven't marketed December at all yet but that meeting seems concerning. Things are going to get worse and we can't just show up at one meeting and call it quits. I know we're not gonna pack every meeting with a 100 people but at least enough people to drown out as much airtime for antis.
Post by: Special T on September 25, 2023, 01:08:29 PM
Maybe a title edit
Like “ Game commission meeting - are you going ?”
The thing is we need people at every meeting, not just October and December. We haven't marketed December at all yet but that meeting seems concerning. Things are going to get worse and we can't just show up at one meeting and call it quits. I know we're not gonna pack every meeting with a 100 people but at least enough people to drown out as much airtime for antis.
Is a ride share being organized?
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 25, 2023, 01:09:49 PM
Maybe a title edit
Like “ Game commission meeting - are you going ?”
The thing is we need people at every meeting, not just October and December. We haven't marketed December at all yet but that meeting seems concerning. Things are going to get worse and we can't just show up at one meeting and call it quits. I know we're not gonna pack every meeting with a 100 people but at least enough people to drown out as much airtime for antis.
Is a ride share being organized?
We are recommending people do carpooling or a ride share as you call it. The coalition itself is not doing a rideshare but our members are carpooling.
Post by: Tbar on September 25, 2023, 03:50:07 PM
Does the coalition have a website? 501status? Any links for more info would be appreciated. TiaMaybe a title edit
Like “ Game commission meeting - are you going ?”
The thing is we need people at every meeting, not just October and December. We haven't marketed December at all yet but that meeting seems concerning. Things are going to get worse and we can't just show up at one meeting and call it quits. I know we're not gonna pack every meeting with a 100 people but at least enough people to drown out as much airtime for antis.
Is a ride share being organized?
We are recommending people do carpooling or a ride share as you call it. The coalition itself is not doing a rideshare but our members are carpooling.
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 25, 2023, 03:58:28 PM
Does the coalition have a website? 501status? Any links for more info would be appreciated. TiaMaybe a title edit
Like “ Game commission meeting - are you going ?”
The thing is we need people at every meeting, not just October and December. We haven't marketed December at all yet but that meeting seems concerning. Things are going to get worse and we can't just show up at one meeting and call it quits. I know we're not gonna pack every meeting with a 100 people but at least enough people to drown out as much airtime for antis.
Is a ride share being organized?
We are recommending people do carpooling or a ride share as you call it. The coalition itself is not doing a rideshare but our members are carpooling.
We formed back in early august and are finalizing our website. Its taken a longtime because we're trying to make it as detailed as possible. As for the 501, we are not doing that. Would hold us back and cause more trouble. not being one lets us do more.
Post by: Tbar on September 25, 2023, 04:03:45 PM
Membership? Bylaws? Mission? Just keep hearing coalition but haven't gained an understanding of what or who it is.Does the coalition have a website? 501status? Any links for more info would be appreciated. TiaMaybe a title edit
Like “ Game commission meeting - are you going ?”
The thing is we need people at every meeting, not just October and December. We haven't marketed December at all yet but that meeting seems concerning. Things are going to get worse and we can't just show up at one meeting and call it quits. I know we're not gonna pack every meeting with a 100 people but at least enough people to drown out as much airtime for antis.
Is a ride share being organized?
We are recommending people do carpooling or a ride share as you call it. The coalition itself is not doing a rideshare but our members are carpooling.
We formed back in early august and are finalizing our website. Its taken a longtime because we're trying to make it as detailed as possible. As for the 501, we are not doing that. Would hold us back and cause more trouble. not being one lets us do more.
Post by: Tbar on September 25, 2023, 04:52:54 PM
How would a 501c4 hold you back? What trouble would it cause?Does the coalition have a website? 501status? Any links for more info would be appreciated. TiaMaybe a title edit
Like “ Game commission meeting - are you going ?”
The thing is we need people at every meeting, not just October and December. We haven't marketed December at all yet but that meeting seems concerning. Things are going to get worse and we can't just show up at one meeting and call it quits. I know we're not gonna pack every meeting with a 100 people but at least enough people to drown out as much airtime for antis.
Is a ride share being organized?
We are recommending people do carpooling or a ride share as you call it. The coalition itself is not doing a rideshare but our members are carpooling.
We formed back in early august and are finalizing our website. Its taken a longtime because we're trying to make it as detailed as possible. As for the 501, we are not doing that. Would hold us back and cause more trouble. not being one lets us do more.
Post by: n_mathews13 on September 27, 2023, 01:46:17 PM
Post by: Ric0 on September 27, 2023, 03:49:05 PM
Post by: Threewolves on October 10, 2023, 05:22:09 AM
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Post by: ducks4days on October 10, 2023, 08:16:45 AM
If anybody is on the fence about traveling because of the cost, I live 90 min from Olympia and have 2 rooms that aren’t used. We can even carpool.
Post by: Mtnwalker on October 10, 2023, 08:45:09 AM
I mentioned this to some guys at a pheasant release site. They heard about the bear/cougar situation, but didn't seem to understand how important this is. I reminded them about hound hunting and trapping. Hopefully, they contact everyone they know to get into action!
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Despite all of the talk going on here, almost none of my buddies or family that hunt know anything about this until I mention it to them. I would venture to guess that 10-20% of WA hunters are vaguely aware of this situation at best.
Post by: actionshooter on October 10, 2023, 09:34:31 PM
I mentioned this to some guys at a pheasant release site. They heard about the bear/cougar situation, but didn't seem to understand how important this is. I reminded them about hound hunting and trapping. Hopefully, they contact everyone they know to get into action!
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Despite all of the talk going on here, almost none of my buddies or family that hunt know anything about this until I mention it to them. I would venture to guess that 10-20% of WA hunters are vaguely aware of this situation at best.
Agree 100%, people who participate in these forums and actually know whats going on are a very small percentage.... I am preaching every chance I get and the amount of side-ways looks I get are unbelievable...
Post by: ganghis on October 11, 2023, 09:32:48 PM
Post by: Firstgenhunter on October 11, 2023, 10:46:01 PM
Is there opportunity for public comment at this meeting? Or is going just a solidarity/increased presence thing?
Their will be public comment
Post by: GASoline71 on October 12, 2023, 08:46:07 AM
I mentioned this to some guys at a pheasant release site. They heard about the bear/cougar situation, but didn't seem to understand how important this is. I reminded them about hound hunting and trapping. Hopefully, they contact everyone they know to get into action!
Sent from my SM-A426U using Tapatalk
Despite all of the talk going on here, almost none of my buddies or family that hunt know anything about this until I mention it to them. I would venture to guess that 10-20% of WA hunters are vaguely aware of this situation at best.
Agree 100%, people who participate in these forums and actually know whats going on are a very small percentage.... I am preaching every chance I get and the amount of side-ways looks I get are unbelievable...
Add in to that the amount of people that will refute that anything like this could ever happen. Once you show them proof, and they still don't believe it. I know hunters are a fickle group, but I am in awe at the amount of people that are blissfully ignorant to what is going on with our hunting rights and heritage. However, I will continue to try to keep as many people informed as I can.
Gary
Post by: n_mathews13 on October 30, 2023, 08:54:47 PM
Post by: actionshooter on October 30, 2023, 09:37:19 PM