Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 28, 2023, 07:24:07 AM
In prior meetings, WWF and other antis advocated for stopping grazing on public land. In the petition, and even during public comment they mentioned the family but not by name. A lot of antis have obsessed over this family for years. If you remember about Lorna's Sierra Club presentation, she was rallying people to speak on wolves and get involved. WWF is rallying their members to speak this Saturday in Yakima in person or over zoom. By the way, Thursday is the last day you can sign up. Then, the group left a link to Chair of the Commission Barbara Baker's email. The group wants to have the petition be voted on at the big October meeting in Olympia. It IS NOT a definitive yes that it will make it onto the agenda, it is already a massive meeting but antis are doing an email campaign to get it on the schedule. Here is a link to the wolf petition from those groups and, you'll find a link to speak at the Yakima meeting. When you sign up, put in "6. public input"
https://wawildlifefirst.org/support-rules-to-protect-wa-wolves/
https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/meetings/2023/28-30sep2023-agenda
Post by: high_hunter on September 28, 2023, 08:31:36 AM
Regardless we need to stay diligent and make sure are signing up to speak and be present at meetings if possible.
Funny, it looks like the anti's are evolving and now have a HOWLesque auto email that so many of them were complaining about.
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 28, 2023, 09:01:08 AM
Two points: 1. Wildlife belongs to the state, not us. 2. You (the enviro wackos) enjoy the benefits of the invasive Canadian wolves (?) and bear none of the consequences.
Please, stay in Seattle and protect your squirrels and rats.
Post by: timberfaller on September 28, 2023, 09:03:50 AM
The only way to beat these groups is to take away their "grants", but that won't happen, to much free money(taxpayers) to gobble up. Always, Follow the money! :bash: :bash:
Post by: Platensek-po on September 28, 2023, 09:25:03 AM
Post by: mcrawfordaf on September 28, 2023, 09:33:45 AM
Just use their automated email system to say that you support the delisting of wolves and would like to see hunting used as a management tool.
That's what I did last month with one of their auto generated calls to action :chuckle:
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 28, 2023, 10:04:59 AM
Good awareness raising. More saber rattling and distractions happening in parallel with the upcoming season-setting/rule-making decisions imho.
Regardless we need to stay diligent and make sure are signing up to speak and be present at meetings if possible.
Funny, it looks like the anti's are evolving and now have a HOWLesque auto email that so many of them were complaining about.
I'm gonna point this out. They have become so desperate. They fired their own leader because she wasn't radical enough. And that's saying something!
Post by: Mtnwalker on September 28, 2023, 10:41:10 AM
Just use their automated email system to say that you support the delisting of wolves and would like to see hunting used as a management tool.
I highly doubt these emails are being read, IF they are even keeping track they probably just count every WWF email as an “against”
Post by: Tbar on September 28, 2023, 10:43:01 AM
So I believe you ate incorrect on anyone being fired. However with staff changes, along with clear direction on how to vote how do you see the psr assessment having an influence?Good awareness raising. More saber rattling and distractions happening in parallel with the upcoming season-setting/rule-making decisions imho.
Regardless we need to stay diligent and make sure are signing up to speak and be present at meetings if possible.
Funny, it looks like the anti's are evolving and now have a HOWLesque auto email that so many of them were complaining about.
I'm gonna point this out. They have become so desperate. They fired their own leader because she wasn't radical enough. And that's saying something!
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 28, 2023, 10:46:44 AM
So I believe you ate incorrect on anyone being fired. However with staff changes, along with clear direction on how to vote how do you see the psr assessment having an influence?Good awareness raising. More saber rattling and distractions happening in parallel with the upcoming season-setting/rule-making decisions imho.
Regardless we need to stay diligent and make sure are signing up to speak and be present at meetings if possible.
Funny, it looks like the anti's are evolving and now have a HOWLesque auto email that so many of them were complaining about.
I'm gonna point this out. They have become so desperate. They fired their own leader because she wasn't radical enough. And that's saying something!
They fired Samantha Brugger, who was the main spokesperson. I thought she was a worthy adversary but now that group is a broken record, desperate and growing more radical.
Post by: Tbar on September 28, 2023, 10:50:29 AM
She wasn't or isn't radical? More likely a personality conflict with cld. Neither of them are remotely moderate, and make that very clear.So I believe you ate incorrect on anyone being fired. However with staff changes, along with clear direction on how to vote how do you see the psr assessment having an influence?Good awareness raising. More saber rattling and distractions happening in parallel with the upcoming season-setting/rule-making decisions imho.
Regardless we need to stay diligent and make sure are signing up to speak and be present at meetings if possible.
Funny, it looks like the anti's are evolving and now have a HOWLesque auto email that so many of them were complaining about.
I'm gonna point this out. They have become so desperate. They fired their own leader because she wasn't radical enough. And that's saying something!
They fired Samantha Brugger, who was the main spokesperson. I thought she was a worthy adversary but now that group is a broken record, desperate and growing more radical.
Post by: timberfaller on September 28, 2023, 10:52:59 AM
Good awareness raising. More saber rattling and distractions happening in parallel with the upcoming season-setting/rule-making decisions imho.
Regardless we need to stay diligent and make sure are signing up to speak and be present at meetings if possible.
Funny, it looks like the anti's are evolving and now have a HOWLesque auto email that so many of them were complaining about.
I'm gonna point this out. They have become so desperate. They fired their own leader because she wasn't radical enough. And that's saying something!
That is how the government has been operating for decades. Prime example, banning of lead! At the start, the head of USFW was against its banning, NO scientific proof existed for their(wanting it banned)agenda. Solution: Forced into retirement and replaced with a Pro-lead-banner. See how it works???? :o :o
Post by: Tbar on September 28, 2023, 11:07:20 AM
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 28, 2023, 11:08:54 AM
The psr is likely more concerning that this petition. The petition is more concerning considering the ability to or willingness to defend the agencies own position.Staff recommended downlisting the wolves. I know some commissioners would deny the petition. These groups claim to follow science and "respect" staff but when the staff's actual science doesn't agree with the antis they throw it out and make crap up
Post by: Tbar on September 28, 2023, 11:10:35 AM