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Title: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: saylean on September 29, 2023, 06:31:42 PM
https://www.howlforwildlife.org/stoptheinsanity?recruiter_id=83



Sign the petition to help stop the preservation policy proposed by the wdfw commission
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: wadu1 on September 29, 2023, 06:37:58 PM
 :tup: done
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Bullkllr on September 29, 2023, 06:43:05 PM
signed
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: MADMAX on September 29, 2023, 06:50:02 PM
Yup 👍
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Nwgunner on September 29, 2023, 06:58:29 PM
Done. Super easy. Thanks.
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: ZaneHunts on September 29, 2023, 07:06:52 PM
Signed  :tup:
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: hunt6226 on September 29, 2023, 07:13:04 PM
Signed .   Thank for posting !!
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 29, 2023, 07:14:59 PM
https://www.howlforwildlife.org/stoptheinsanity?recruiter_id=83



Sign the petition to help stop the preservation policy proposed by the wdfw commission

Thanks for posting this!! We are going to need a lot of signatures. Dm if you want to help
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: elkrack on September 29, 2023, 08:37:18 PM
Done! :tup:
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: High Climber on September 29, 2023, 08:41:06 PM
I signed it, got a long ways to go
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: BreezyBear on September 29, 2023, 08:41:42 PM
signed
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 29, 2023, 08:53:53 PM
I signed it, got a long ways to go

we're not stopping anytime soon. And the HOWL portion is just for digital
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: elksnout on September 29, 2023, 09:40:37 PM
Done


elksnout
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: greenhead_killer on September 29, 2023, 10:01:45 PM
Signed
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: jstone on September 30, 2023, 05:03:20 AM
Done
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 30, 2023, 06:07:37 AM
We have physical petitions and will need help gathering signatures. We have already be begun to build a network across the state to help get signatures. If anyone would like to help, feel free to reach out
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: jstone on September 30, 2023, 06:33:41 AM
Do you have specific areas that you are gathering? Grocery store or something like that
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: cem3434 on September 30, 2023, 06:42:53 AM
Signed
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 30, 2023, 06:49:21 AM
Do you have specific areas that you are gathering? Grocery store or something like that

Still trying to work things out but I know coalition members are hitting up stores. But we're building a network across the state from those who want to help. We're going to have signers all over but they have to send the papers before October 27th
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Firstgenhunter on September 30, 2023, 07:20:06 AM
Forgot to put it here earlier but we have the entire  I-5 corridor, the southwest (except the far coastal counties) the Yakima -Ellensburg area, Whidbey Island, and the entire northeastern counties of the state if you don't include Spokane county. All those areas are covered but we really need folks mobilizing in the southeast corner of the state, Spokane County, Tri-Cities, Walla Wall, and Lincoln, Whitman, Adams and Grant County covered. We could get a ton of signatures in those areas, even from nonhunters!
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on September 30, 2023, 07:55:54 AM
Done , posted on FB. Probably going to get banned.🤣
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: X-Force on September 30, 2023, 09:06:13 AM
Signed
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: JDArms1240 on September 30, 2023, 09:38:55 AM
Can I sign it 3 times?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: harveymarv on October 01, 2023, 09:24:35 AM
signed and shared
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: High Climber on October 01, 2023, 03:48:22 PM
A little nitpicking here, BUT, HOWL website is calling it “conservation policy” on their website… it should read “preservation policy” should it not?
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: hughjorgan on October 01, 2023, 03:56:39 PM
A little nitpicking here, BUT, HOWL website is calling it “conservation policy” on their website… it should read “preservation policy” should it not?

It says proposed and puts quotations around conservation policy; I think we all know what their getting at with that title, no?
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Jake Dogfish on October 01, 2023, 04:04:25 PM
I signed it.
I’m still not sure what the threat is, or how this policy has any teeth.
Title: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: jackelope on October 01, 2023, 04:38:52 PM
I signed it.
I’m still not sure what the threat is, or how this policy has any teeth.

You’re not sure what the threat is?

Which policy has no teeth?

You saw the part about how the commission has eliminated spring bear hunting, right?
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Jake Dogfish on October 01, 2023, 04:59:03 PM
I signed it.
I’m still not sure what the threat is, or how this policy has any teeth.

You’re not sure what the threat is?

Which policy has no teeth?

You saw the part about how the commission has eliminated spring bear hunting, right?
This thread is about the conservation policy.
Can you tell me what it will do?
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: dwtraut7 on October 01, 2023, 05:03:51 PM
I've signed as well. Certainly seems as though we are approaching a tipping point soon.
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Firstgenhunter on October 01, 2023, 05:24:38 PM
I signed it.
I’m still not sure what the threat is, or how this policy has any teeth.

You’re not sure what the threat is?

Which policy has no teeth?

You saw the part about how the commission has eliminated spring bear hunting, right?
This thread is about the conservation policy.
Can you tell me what it will do?

It will open the floodgates to even worse policies and gives them more power. Its all a part of the climate change and rewilding agenda
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Jake Dogfish on October 01, 2023, 06:04:48 PM
I signed it.
I’m still not sure what the threat is, or how this policy has any teeth.

You’re not sure what the threat is?

Which policy has no teeth?

You saw the part about how the commission has eliminated spring bear hunting, right?
This thread is about the conservation policy.
Can you tell me what it will do?

It will open the floodgates to even worse policies and gives them more power. Its all a part of the climate change and rewilding agenda
That’s the kind of answer I expected.
Thanks
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Washington Wapiti on October 01, 2023, 07:08:54 PM
Signed and shared.
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Pacific Ghost on October 03, 2023, 03:25:12 PM
I wish this thread with the link to the petition was the first thing everyone saw when they clicked on the Hunt Wa forum. I know there are reasons for things of this nature not constantly being front and center, but without hunting we wouldn't be sitting here talking about this on the Hunt Wa site to begin with.
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: ghosthunter on October 03, 2023, 06:55:48 PM
Signed
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: actionshooter on October 03, 2023, 08:04:07 PM
Copy of the PDF so people can gather their own signatures
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: GASoline71 on October 03, 2023, 08:09:35 PM
If anybody prints that petition out and gets signatures.  When completed, please mail them to:

Gary Strassburg
PO Box 796
Oak Harbor, WA
98277

The wet signature petitions along with the signatures attained via Howl will be pooled together and presented in person at the October 27th commission meeting by myself.

Gary
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Platensek-po on October 03, 2023, 09:14:30 PM
I signed it.
I’m still not sure what the threat is, or how this policy has any teeth.

You’re not sure what the threat is?

Which policy has no teeth?

You saw the part about how the commission has eliminated spring bear hunting, right?
This thread is about the conservation policy.
Can you tell me what it will do?

It will open the floodgates to even worse policies and gives them more power. Its all a part of the climate change and rewilding agenda
That’s the kind of answer I expected.
Thanks

Seriously spend the time to read it yourself. They change out conservation and go with preservation. They essentially want to close off most of the state land for animal watching and interpretive trails. They are proposing to change the mandate to get rid of the part that states they have to provide opportunity for hunting and fishing and start managing for “all user groups”. The tribes seemed pretty upset as they were not consulted at all and it basically states that wdfw will no longer be working towards harvestable numbers. It’s awful and a complete waste of time and will be a complete destruction of our outdoors. Read it.
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: saylean on October 03, 2023, 10:49:52 PM
Bump.

It’s easier to sign it than complain.
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 04, 2023, 05:50:13 AM
Its time to send this out to all the hunters on your mailing lists because a lot on not on Hunt Wa or privy to what WDFW commission is up to
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Firstgenhunter on October 04, 2023, 07:08:22 AM
Its time to send this out to all the hunters on your mailing lists because a lot on not on Hunt Wa or privy to what WDFW commission is up to

We have people mobilizing in full force, however we need people in certain counties mobilizing.
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Jake Dogfish on October 04, 2023, 07:47:38 AM
I signed it.
I’m still not sure what the threat is, or how this policy has any teeth.

You’re not sure what the threat is?

Which policy has no teeth?

You saw the part about how the commission has eliminated spring bear hunting, right?
This thread is about the conservation policy.
Can you tell me what it will do?

It will open the floodgates to even worse policies and gives them more power. Its all a part of the climate change and rewilding agenda
That’s the kind of answer I expected.
Thanks

Seriously spend the time to read it yourself. They change out conservation and go with preservation. They essentially want to close off most of the state land for animal watching and interpretive trails. They are proposing to change the mandate to get rid of the part that states they have to provide opportunity for hunting and fishing and start managing for “all user groups”. The tribes seemed pretty upset as they were not consulted at all and it basically states that wdfw will no longer be working towards harvestable numbers. It’s awful and a complete waste of time and will be a complete destruction of our outdoors. Read it.
I’ve read it.
It’s useless.
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Mtnwalker on October 04, 2023, 08:27:48 AM
I signed it.
I’m still not sure what the threat is, or how this policy has any teeth.

You’re not sure what the threat is?

Which policy has no teeth?

You saw the part about how the commission has eliminated spring bear hunting, right?
This thread is about the conservation policy.
Can you tell me what it will do?

It will open the floodgates to even worse policies and gives them more power. Its all a part of the climate change and rewilding agenda
That’s the kind of answer I expected.
Thanks

Seriously spend the time to read it yourself. They change out conservation and go with preservation. They essentially want to close off most of the state land for animal watching and interpretive trails. They are proposing to change the mandate to get rid of the part that states they have to provide opportunity for hunting and fishing and start managing for “all user groups”. The tribes seemed pretty upset as they were not consulted at all and it basically states that wdfw will no longer be working towards harvestable numbers. It’s awful and a complete waste of time and will be a complete destruction of our outdoors. Read it.
I’ve read it.
It’s useless.

Nothing to see here then, huh? Wow what a relief. And here I thought we should be worried. 🙄
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: RugerRay on October 04, 2023, 08:35:04 AM
Signed
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Special T on October 04, 2023, 08:36:18 AM
I signed it.
I’m still not sure what the threat is, or how this policy has any teeth.

You’re not sure what the threat is?

Which policy has no teeth?

You saw the part about how the commission has eliminated spring bear hunting, right?
This thread is about the conservation policy.
Can you tell me what it will do?

It will open the floodgates to even worse policies and gives them more power. Its all a part of the climate change and rewilding agenda
That’s the kind of answer I expected.
Thanks

The Draft conservation policy changes the definition of conservation to preservation in short. It changes the framing for rule making to emphasizes non consumptive use. This is a strategic change to make it harder to do predator control, and in the long run have  abundant deer and elk.

This petition is a show of no confidence in  the policy and sportsmen comment as such. I doubt that it has any binding legality to the commission however if/when they pass this policy it could be useful at fighting it in the courts. The Draft Conservation Policy goes against the legislative mandate breaking the law.  Count on Legislative work this session trying to remake the mandate. Commissioner Baker has suggested at least 3 times that "perhaps"  the mandate needs to be changed. Baker is a lawyer and was part of the legislative machine for quite a while before getting on the commission.

Is that a more full explanation?
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Platensek-po on October 04, 2023, 08:59:03 AM
I signed it.
I’m still not sure what the threat is, or how this policy has any teeth.

You’re not sure what the threat is?

Which policy has no teeth?

You saw the part about how the commission has eliminated spring bear hunting, right?
This thread is about the conservation policy.
Can you tell me what it will do?

It will open the floodgates to even worse policies and gives them more power. Its all a part of the climate change and rewilding agenda
That’s the kind of answer I expected.
Thanks

Seriously spend the time to read it yourself. They change out conservation and go with preservation. They essentially want to close off most of the state land for animal watching and interpretive trails. They are proposing to change the mandate to get rid of the part that states they have to provide opportunity for hunting and fishing and start managing for “all user groups”. The tribes seemed pretty upset as they were not consulted at all and it basically states that wdfw will no longer be working towards harvestable numbers. It’s awful and a complete waste of time and will be a complete destruction of our outdoors. Read it.
I’ve read it.
It’s useless.

Good. So I’m sure you sent them commission a comment stating how upset you are that they spent 2 years drafting a useless policy instead of putting their focus and efforts in doing something that actually matters. I agree that it this new policy is useless to hunters and therefor fairly concerning
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Jake Dogfish on October 04, 2023, 08:23:35 PM
I signed it.
I’m still not sure what the threat is, or how this policy has any teeth.

You’re not sure what the threat is?

Which policy has no teeth?

You saw the part about how the commission has eliminated spring bear hunting, right?
This thread is about the conservation policy.
Can you tell me what it will do?

It will open the floodgates to even worse policies and gives them more power. Its all a part of the climate change and rewilding agenda
That’s the kind of answer I expected.
Thanks

Seriously spend the time to read it yourself. They change out conservation and go with preservation. They essentially want to close off most of the state land for animal watching and interpretive trails. They are proposing to change the mandate to get rid of the part that states they have to provide opportunity for hunting and fishing and start managing for “all user groups”. The tribes seemed pretty upset as they were not consulted at all and it basically states that wdfw will no longer be working towards harvestable numbers. It’s awful and a complete waste of time and will be a complete destruction of our outdoors. Read it.
I’ve read it.
It’s useless.

Nothing to see here then, huh? Wow what a relief. And here I thought we should be worried. 🙄
Glad to help. :tup:
Title: Re: Sign petition to stop preservation policy
Post by: Gringo31 on October 05, 2023, 08:46:57 AM
done and sent to many
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