Post by: LDennis24 on September 29, 2023, 09:09:12 PM
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Post by: buglebuster on November 17, 2023, 05:16:02 PM
Boers can be very stout! I saw one at the Palouse fair this year that was part bull terrier!Ya, here’s our bucks. Very stout. We sold the black one for $4000 this summer. Last picture is next to a very large saanen doe, some use saanens for packing too.
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 17, 2023, 05:56:29 PM
Post by: Mtnwalker on November 17, 2023, 06:20:27 PM
Dang those are tanks’
:yeah: Hopefully your packers are wethers, cause them boys don’t have much ground clearance :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: buglebuster on November 17, 2023, 06:41:26 PM
Dang those are tanks’
:yeah: Hopefully your packers are wethers, cause them boys don’t have much ground clearance :chuckle: :chuckle:
Disclaimer, I don’t raise pack goats 🤣
Post by: actionshooter on November 17, 2023, 07:15:32 PM
I asked him why he chose Oberhaslis. He says they are quieter than other breeds and have more try from what he has heard.
Obers have the most heart... I believe their demeaner means a lot... they are a little smaller generally, I have Obers and Alpines and my best lead was an Ober. It's kind of personal preference but atthe end of the day, there isn't a huge difference.
I don't know Linda in Moses, but have heard of her quality goats.
Post by: actionshooter on November 17, 2023, 07:17:40 PM
Not Obers but a guy in Benton City sells Alpines for packing. Trinity pack goats, i've been to his outfit before. Also is there a reason he just wants obers? I have 2 ober crosses and I think they are on the small size. My alpines and lamancha crosses are much bigger.
Last I heard Dave at Trinity was selling all of his goats to Mark Warnke.... I have 3 from Dave and wanted more and was told no last year.
Post by: YellowDog on November 18, 2023, 12:25:56 AM
The guy in my post above is 1/2 ober, 1/4 LaMancha, 1/4 Boer and is not quite 18 months old in that photo. He was about 34" tall and 204 lbs i (on a livestock scale) n yhat photo. I prefer packgoats that are a mix of breeds with hier percentages of Alpine, Ober, or LaMancha mixed with smaller percentages of Saanen and Boer mixed in.
I have 24 goats total with all kinds of mixes and none of them are noisy. Nubians are known for being noisy. All goats are potentially noisy but even the ones I have that scream only do it at feeding time and they have all grown out of that by one year of age.
The gray and black goat below is pure Alpine, 1 month younger than the brown one pictured above. He is about an inch shorter and 25 lbs (he's about 225 now) lighter than the ober, lamancha, Boer cross.
The two pictured below are twin brothers sired by the ober, lamancha Boer buck crossed with my favorite doe who is 5/8 Alpine, 1/4 ober, 1/8 Boer. Those two are 16 months old in the photo.
Post by: YellowDog on November 18, 2023, 01:16:49 AM
Post by: bachto on December 07, 2023, 08:49:56 AM
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Last I heard Dave at Trinity was selling all of his goats to Mark Warnke.... I have 3 from Dave and wanted more and was told no last year.
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I thought I heard he stopped selling to Marc. Who I will NEVER buy goats from and would steer other people away from buying from Marc either.
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 07, 2023, 09:10:10 AM
Last I heard Dave at Trinity was selling all of his goats to Mark Warnke.... I have 3 from Dave and wanted more and was told no last year.
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I thought I heard he stopped selling to Marc. Who I will NEVER buy goats from and would steer other people away from buying from Marc either.
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Care to elaborate?
Post by: huntnnw on December 07, 2023, 02:54:50 PM
Last I heard Dave at Trinity was selling all of his goats to Mark Warnke.... I have 3 from Dave and wanted more and was told no last year.
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I thought I heard he stopped selling to Marc. Who I will NEVER buy goats from and would steer other people away from buying from Marc either.
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:yeah: He’s like a used car salesman. A fraud
Post by: huntnnw on December 07, 2023, 02:56:26 PM
I asked him why he chose Oberhaslis. He says they are quieter than other breeds and have more try from what he has heard.
That’s not true. Each goat is different . My lamancha are the quietist and best packers
Post by: YellowDog on December 07, 2023, 08:08:10 PM
Here is a big Saanen doe from Dwite Ashampoo packgoat breeding lines. She is 250+ pounds.
Also posted is a 3 year old Saanen packgoat wether that is 43" at the withers and 295 lbs with up to 2 years of growing left.
There are boers bred for meat and obers, alpines, saanens, lamanchas, etc. bred for dairy and then there are dairy lines of dairy breeds that have the size, conformation, temperament, etc. for packing. You can't just take a Boer meat goat and cross it with a dairy goat and end up with optimal packgoat conformation.
Post by: actionshooter on December 07, 2023, 08:44:05 PM
Last I heard Dave at Trinity was selling all of his goats to Mark Warnke.... I have 3 from Dave and wanted more and was told no last year.
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I thought I heard he stopped selling to Marc. Who I will NEVER buy goats from and would steer other people away from buying from Marc either.
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When I called Dave last year... he told me everything was going to Warnke... I didn't call him in 2023... if he is selling to everyone else again... he is a good source. As far as Warnke... my mama told me not to talk bad about others...
Post by: YellowDog on December 07, 2023, 09:51:01 PM
Can't say that I agree with this comment but since my mama told me the same thing yours told you, I won't say more.When I called Dave last year... he told me everything was going to Warnke... I didn't call him in 2023... if he is selling to everyone else again... he is a good source. As far as Warnke... my mama told me not to talk bad about others...
There are better sources for packgoat prospects and packgoat information.
Post by: builtfordtough on December 07, 2023, 10:02:47 PM