Post by: Monsterbull11 on December 27, 2023, 08:21:33 AM
Post by: HikerHunter on December 27, 2023, 08:26:58 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 27, 2023, 08:27:49 AM
Post by: Monsterbull11 on December 27, 2023, 08:33:41 AM
I think the fat lady just grabbed the mic. :bash:The way it looks to me.
Post by: vandeman17 on December 27, 2023, 08:38:48 AM
Post by: Houndhunter on December 27, 2023, 08:39:05 AM
Post by: WildBear on December 27, 2023, 08:58:26 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 27, 2023, 09:20:01 AM
I know it's hard to get conservatives 100 percent on the same page but this should be the year of no purchase protest. 10-15 percent of the budget isn't much but it's s start.
Getting to the point people are just ok with table scraps.... just want to hunt. Family tradition etc...i get it... but something has to give.
Post by: Monsterbull11 on December 27, 2023, 09:21:59 AM
Followed soon by "low deer and elk numbers so we need to have draws for all tags"Just a rumor but I did hear that for elk.
Post by: vandeman17 on December 27, 2023, 09:23:00 AM
Followed soon by "low deer and elk numbers so we need to have draws for all tags"Just a rumor but I did hear that for elk.
Eastside elk for sure and soon, deer won't be far behind. Just chip away in the name of "conservation"
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 27, 2023, 09:31:16 AM
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/3278411396419-yakamas-to-have-first-ceremonial-elk-hunt-on-eastern-washington-mountain-in-80-years?_f=app_share&s=a3&share_destination_id=MjE2OTk4NjY0LTE3MDM2OTM0NjI0NzE%3D&pd=0EgVGST4&hl=en_US&send_time=1703693462&actBtn=floatShareButton&trans_data=%7B%22platform%22%3A1%2C%22cv%22%3A%2223.51.0%22%2C%22languages%22%3A%22en%22%7D
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 27, 2023, 09:40:31 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 27, 2023, 09:46:56 AM
Not everyone is losing opportunity.more jerky for sale! But at least the yakamas can post their kills on here and get praise.
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/3278411396419-yakamas-to-have-first-ceremonial-elk-hunt-on-eastern-washington-mountain-in-80-years?_f=app_share&s=a3&share_destination_id=MjE2OTk4NjY0LTE3MDM2OTM0NjI0NzE%3D&pd=0EgVGST4&hl=en_US&send_time=1703693462&actBtn=floatShareButton&trans_data=%7B%22platform%22%3A1%2C%22cv%22%3A%2223.51.0%22%2C%22languages%22%3A%22en%22%7D
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 27, 2023, 10:03:57 AM
With uncontrolled wolves and cats, it probably won't last long unless they get to hunt farms and golf courses. In the lewis and Clark journals, not a lot of game, just predators, until they got to the ocean.Not everyone is losing opportunity.more jerky for sale! But at least the yakamas can post their kills on here and get praise.
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/3278411396419-yakamas-to-have-first-ceremonial-elk-hunt-on-eastern-washington-mountain-in-80-years?_f=app_share&s=a3&share_destination_id=MjE2OTk4NjY0LTE3MDM2OTM0NjI0NzE%3D&pd=0EgVGST4&hl=en_US&send_time=1703693462&actBtn=floatShareButton&trans_data=%7B%22platform%22%3A1%2C%22cv%22%3A%2223.51.0%22%2C%22languages%22%3A%22en%22%7D
Post by: buckfvr on December 27, 2023, 10:07:05 AM
Post by: HUNTIN4SIX on December 27, 2023, 11:16:11 AM
Followed soon by "low deer and elk numbers so we need to have draws for all tags"
Then deer and elk numbers too low to hunt. THEN finally....the goal is achieved......
Take away guns cause we won’t need them....right? :twocents:
Post by: MountainTracker on December 27, 2023, 01:47:16 PM
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Post by: boneaddict on December 27, 2023, 02:11:16 PM
Post by: Platensek-po on December 27, 2023, 02:39:37 PM
Post by: Cougartail on December 27, 2023, 02:58:02 PM
Post by: steeleywhopper on December 27, 2023, 03:04:51 PM
How and the heck can any game warden or employee of WDFW look at themselves in the mirror or live with themselves knowing they officially represent Washington's biggest Anti-Hunting group?
Post by: bigmacc on December 27, 2023, 03:18:56 PM
Ironically, their wolf project and their lack of management of the wolves is probably putting more pressure on these predators than any hunting season. THey didnt seem to listen to the science when Spring bear came up, interesting thats a "hot saying now". As stated, its all a grab to stop hunting and likely to get your guns.Absolutely!!!! These are all peices of the puzzle that make up the democrat/liberal agenda, bottom line will be gun ownership, mark my words. It’s why I keep harping on voting, be very careful about voting for folks with a D next to there name, their PARTY has agendas that will definitely affect you negatively if you hunt or own firearms.
Apparently all you have to do is write a letter(full of propaganda), send it to the state and “poof” things will happen……… as long as they come from anti gun, anti hunting liberal organizations. Maybe we as hunters just need to send a letter with back up from 50 old timers and scientists to claim cougars, wolves and bears are detrimental to our deer and elk hunting. I’m sure myself, bearpaw and bone will sign up to lend some support among many others. 😆
The tears of liberals always seem to catch all the attention. Heres just another example. Trust boots on the ground, trust those that have been around awhile with history. There’s no way in hell cougar and bear populations are suffering!!!!! NO WAY!!!! What a joke!!!!
Post by: MADMAX on December 27, 2023, 04:06:20 PM
Shameful
Our ungulate herds are being wiped out by predators and what do these fine educated wildlife lovers do ?
Protect predators
Again shameful
Post by: actionshooter on December 27, 2023, 04:10:48 PM
WDFW is officially dead to me...
How and the heck can any game warden or employee of WDFW look at themselves in the mirror or live with themselves knowing they officially represent Washington's biggest Anti-Hunting group?
Lets not get the actual WDFW and the WDFW Commision mixed up... This is the commission behind this, the actual WDFW is behind us.. the biologist have basically told the commission the population is at or above desired levels.... the 9 person Commission won't listen.
We need to focus on the real enemy and that is 4-5 of Inslee's appointed minions.
Post by: Loup Loup on December 27, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 27, 2023, 05:06:39 PM
Post by: 270Flat on December 27, 2023, 05:11:34 PM
WDFW is officially dead to me...
How and the heck can any game warden or employee of WDFW look at themselves in the mirror or live with themselves knowing they officially represent Washington's biggest Anti-Hunting group?
Lets not get the actual WDFW and the WDFW Commision mixed up... This is the commission behind this, the actual WDFW is behind us.. the biologist have basically told the commission the population is at or above desired levels.... the 9 person Commission won't listen.
We need to focus on the real enemy and that is 4-5 of Inslee's appointed minions.
As regular hunters what can we do to get these 4-5 appointed people out of office? The actions of the state (Inslee) are hurting the future for my boys (16,13) future hunting opportunities.
Post by: MADMAX on December 27, 2023, 05:15:56 PM
Seriously
A lawsuit is needed
Post by: actionshooter on December 27, 2023, 05:23:03 PM
Post by: MountainTracker on December 27, 2023, 05:24:40 PM
When spring bear was being discussed they said that the state carnivore biologist didn’t have enough data to provide population information. Now they are saying that populations are declining? That’s opposite what the state bio said but we didn’t have the info right? All of a sudden we have information on it? Where is it? Why was it not shared with the state? 50 “carnivore” biologists lol. Maybe we should hire a bio as was suggested by the commission to show that populations are growing unsustainably and need culled.A question to ask is where did the data come from if you didn’t have it originally?
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Post by: MADMAX on December 27, 2023, 05:30:52 PM
Lawsuits take money... and there are people doing things... help spread the word.
it’s appreciated
But hunters are 3% of the population in Wa
We need visibility at a national level
Post by: HUNTIN4SIX on December 27, 2023, 05:54:12 PM
Maybe DFW brass and bios should speak out publicly then and make it known the commission has gone rouge, making decisions that go against true conservation and management goals.
I agree.....however they won’t. There is such a fear put into WDFW staff. they will not stand up. In 24+ years being employed by WDFW and many “time to stand up and speak up” situations the tough talk quickly would stop and employees get right back in line sucking their thumb and holding the security blanket. The few that have stood up, including myself get there arises kicked. This agency is corrupt to its core. Many top brass protect the corruption. I always go back to the jab, the ones still employed had an opportunity to stand for something against their own body and caved. Hate to say it but, there is not much more important things to stand against. I’ll never forget one of the last big zoom mtgs. I was on, employees were standing up and handing management their arses over the jab. They were pissed. Well many had a stern talking to and the meetings mysteriously stopped. Not trying to relive history just using it as an example of how the chit show operates behind the scenes. This state is screwed.....officially.
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 27, 2023, 05:57:08 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 27, 2023, 06:39:02 PM
Take this for what it's worth.
Do you have a link for that?
Post by: bigmacc on December 27, 2023, 06:55:22 PM
Exactly, where is this data really coming from. IMO, you can’t get more corrupt than what we have now as far as folks who we are supposed to look to for taking care of our “fish and game”. My opinion. My statement of “ we no longer have a Game Department “ is an understatement! We have a “group” who coddles the liberal agenda, they bow down to those who pump money into those officials who pull the strings. SHAMEFUL! I’m sorry for the rants. This is a joke , they know it is and they know we know it is. We are being railroaded. Period!When spring bear was being discussed they said that the state carnivore biologist didn’t have enough data to provide population information. Now they are saying that populations are declining? That’s opposite what the state bio said but we didn’t have the info right? All of a sudden we have information on it? Where is it? Why was it not shared with the state? 50 “carnivore” biologists lol. Maybe we should hire a bio as was suggested by the commission to show that populations are growing unsustainably and need culled.A question to ask is where did the data come from if you didn’t have it originally?
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Once again, sorry, this is the beginning of the end of hunting in this state!
Post by: Cougartail on December 27, 2023, 07:03:46 PM
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on December 27, 2023, 09:50:26 PM
Post by: Monsterbull11 on December 28, 2023, 12:44:11 PM
https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/washington-commission-oks-hunting-reforms-for-cougars-bears-2023-12-18/Take this for what it's worth.
Do you have a link for that?
Post by: trophyhunt on December 28, 2023, 02:10:49 PM
Now reading that pile of garbage really pisses me off!! G-damn liar’s!! All those anti hunt azz hats need a long drop w a short rope.https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/washington-commission-oks-hunting-reforms-for-cougars-bears-2023-12-18/Take this for what it's worth.
Do you have a link for that?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 28, 2023, 03:43:52 PM
Post by: elkrack on December 28, 2023, 08:19:11 PM
Sad to see
Post by: huntnphool on December 28, 2023, 10:19:22 PM
https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/washington-commission-oks-hunting-reforms-for-cougars-bears-2023-12-18/Take this for what it's worth.
Do you have a link for that?
Thank you! Wasn’t questioning, just couldn’t find it on the WDFW website…go figure! :rolleyes:
Post by: HillHound on December 28, 2023, 10:35:21 PM
It’s unreal how successful the left has been in this state :bash:Yes it is. I hope Lorna and all her friends can stand tall and proud after they decimate our deer and elk herds. What an accomplishment it will be for our game commission to watch our once healthy herd numbers plummet just like they want them too. Their plan is falling right into place. What isn’t killed by bears,cougars and wolves will be poached when they take our general deer and elk tags away. All you Natives on here should be just as fired up about this crap and trying to stop it. Your take of non existent herds will be 0 just like us. You need to fight so your kids as well as ours have the opportunity to continue our heritage. We are all minorities in Washington now(apparently only 3% in washington hunt)and they are discriminating against us based on our ancestral hunting heritage. HLM Hunters Lives Matter. Maybe we need to take over some government buildings or burn some cars to get some support :dunno:
Sad to see
Post by: Naches Sportsman on December 28, 2023, 11:05:49 PM
The only way getting hunting seasons back is when the commission goes hard after recreational sport fishing so the elected liberals and voters can wake up and realize how important hunting and fishing really is to the western culture and economy. Guaranteed there would be a big fuss if they can’t break out their $1000 fly fishing setups and fish.
Post by: hunter399 on December 29, 2023, 12:22:56 AM
If I win the lottery, maybe I ought to invest 100 million in getting environmentalists to propose to shutdown recreational sport fishing in Washington.That's how it was when inslee shut down fishing and hunting for COVID. It got opened back up quick.
The only way getting hunting seasons back is when the commission goes hard after recreational sport fishing so the elected liberals and voters can wake up and realize how important hunting and fishing really is to the western culture and economy. Guaranteed there would be a big fuss if they can’t break out their $1000 fly fishing setups and fish.
Post by: actionshooter on December 29, 2023, 05:45:04 PM
If I win the lottery, maybe I ought to invest 100 million in getting environmentalists to propose to shutdown recreational sport fishing in Washington.
The only way getting hunting seasons back is when the commission goes hard after recreational sport fishing so the elected liberals and voters can wake up and realize how important hunting and fishing really is to the western culture and economy. Guaranteed there would be a big fuss if they can’t break out their $1000 fly fishing setups and fish.
I have been trying to tell some hardcore fisherman that they are next.... remember 10-15 years ago when most people said they would never be able to take an AR15 away? People are so short-sighted they can't see would could be in just a few years.
Post by: ghosthunter on December 29, 2023, 06:01:09 PM
Fisherman will be next.
https://www.peta.org/issues/animals-in-entertainment/cruel-sports/fishing/
Post by: bigmacc on December 29, 2023, 07:28:42 PM
Non consumption is just that. We are 5he low hanging fruit.:yeah: Think before you vote folks. It all revolves around politics and agendas. Trust me.
Fisherman will be next.
https://www.peta.org/issues/animals-in-entertainment/cruel-sports/fishing/
Post by: knob221 on December 29, 2023, 07:51:59 PM
Post by: highcountry_hunter on December 29, 2023, 07:55:02 PM
I'm curious, of those who have commented thus far, how many have watched the commission meeting where this decision was made? How about read the petition further than the cover page?Watching one of those commission meetings is a surefire way to raise a sensible humans blood pressure 7,000 points
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Post by: templar021 on January 03, 2024, 10:06:27 PM
Post by: bugs n bones on January 04, 2024, 09:42:49 AM
Followed soon by "low deer and elk numbers so we need to have draws for all tags"its coming
Post by: ducks4days on January 04, 2024, 09:56:00 AM
Post by: Special T on January 04, 2024, 10:02:00 AM
Rulemaking is open for predator hunting. We should be lobbying HARD to increase season lengths, bag limits, methods, etc.. This can work in our favor if we actually work for it.
I agree we should lobby hard.
What makes you think logic or science will sway enough votes?