Post by: DishBogget on January 23, 2024, 10:35:31 AM
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Post by: JakeLand on January 23, 2024, 10:45:53 AM
The stupidity
Post by: DishBogget on January 23, 2024, 10:47:25 AM
WTF when will this stopNever
The stupidity
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Post by: SuperX on January 23, 2024, 10:49:10 AM
Post by: lewy on January 23, 2024, 10:54:46 AM
Post by: timberfaller on January 23, 2024, 10:59:59 AM
Used to call them back in the good ole days, "educated past their intelligence" !
Post by: DishBogget on January 23, 2024, 11:08:01 AM
Who wrote the bill?Senator Stanford
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Post by: RC on January 23, 2024, 11:18:36 AM
https://sportsmensalliance.org/news/washington-ban-on-sale-of-fur-hearing-thursday-january-25/
Post by: bornhunter on January 23, 2024, 12:54:23 PM
WTF when will this stopNever
The stupidity
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Post by: fishngamereaper on January 23, 2024, 01:28:57 PM
Most won't make it through but guaranteed like years past the first year a bill is introduced is a test run. If it doesn't get any traction they'll re write it and re introduce it, and hope people forgot it's original form.
It seems they see blood in the water for what I would describe as a conservative lifestyle and they aren't holding back...
Good luck guys that decide to stay. I can't wait to move.
Post by: elkboy on January 23, 2024, 01:34:50 PM
The far-left types are going to try to chip away at hunting, fishing, and trapping until nothing remains. They hate private gun ownership. They dislike the fact that people like you and me have not just the skill set to harvest fish and game, but the self-reliant mindset that is often associated with those skills.
It's going to be a rough ride for the next decade... or longer...
Post by: redi on January 23, 2024, 03:20:06 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 23, 2024, 04:32:18 PM
WTF when will this stopOnce enough people have lived a tough life. Then, common sense will start to come back.
The stupidity
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 23, 2024, 04:50:38 PM
Post by: MADMAX on January 23, 2024, 04:51:03 PM
:yeah:WTF when will this stopOnce enough people have lived a tough life. Then, common sense will start to come back.
The stupidity
Could be while then
Pay my student loan off
Where’s my check ?
Free cheese
And I want a smart phone :chuckle:
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 23, 2024, 04:59:42 PM
Every time I see this stuff coming out of WA, I’m thankful I bought my 21 acres in Idaho.
That works, for now.
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on January 23, 2024, 06:34:03 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 23, 2024, 06:39:06 PM
If they get fur, leather won't be far behind. Then utilizing any part of an animal. If they succeed on wild animals, farm animals are next. And that's the way we need to frame it to the general public.
That’s their intentions. But hey people won’t believe it till their at the door to remove your farm animals.😢
Post by: RC on January 23, 2024, 07:30:46 PM
If they get fur, leather won't be far behind. Then utilizing any part of an animal. If they succeed on wild animals, farm animals are next. And that's the way we need to frame it to the general public.
That’s their intentions. But hey people won’t believe it till their at the door to remove your farm animals.😢
Oregon is already trying to go that route
https://www.yesonip3.org/about
I swear Oregon and Washington are trying to out stupid each other, and they both winning.
Post by: Humptulips on January 23, 2024, 07:56:12 PM
If they get fur, leather won't be far behind. Then utilizing any part of an animal. If they succeed on wild animals, farm animals are next. And that's the way we need to frame it to the general public.This bill includes farm raised fur as well.
Post by: JakeLand on January 24, 2024, 04:53:21 AM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 24, 2024, 06:27:06 AM
https://sportsmensalliance.org/news/washington-ban-on-sale-of-fur-hearing-thursday-january-25/
Post by: Trapper John on January 24, 2024, 07:35:12 AM
Animal rights activists say stopping the wear and use of fur is about stopping the cruel treatment of animals.
:yike: Say what? WCO's wildlife control operators........WDFW program mandates that "ALL" animals that you catch are euthanized "KILLED" and ALL of them are thrown away. Now what is crueler than that? Wasted period !
Stop trapping stop the use of Fur..............what the hell do you think those animals are going to live happy forever? NO there will be more WCO's or someone that is going to have to catch them and kill everything. :yike:
JC
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Post by: Elkaholic daWg on January 24, 2024, 08:50:07 AM
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=6294&Year=2023&Initiative=false
Post by: boneaddict on January 24, 2024, 09:13:17 AM
If they get fur, leather won't be far behind. Then utilizing any part of an animal. If they succeed on wild animals, farm animals are next. And that's the way we need to frame it to the general public.
NAILED IT
Post by: Humptulips on January 24, 2024, 09:30:36 AM
How did we not know about this earlier ?It didn't get introduced until the 22nd.
Post by: Humptulips on January 24, 2024, 09:34:22 AM
I looked at the written testimony list for Pro and Con. I see Fred Koontz on there as pro, how surprising. Anymore these days I just have the Washington legislation website on my computer and check for new bills all the time so I don’t miss anything, bills like this are going to get more frequent.No surprise on Koontz supporting it.
Post by: GWP on January 24, 2024, 09:56:29 AM
The inmates are running the institution!
Post by: lewy on January 24, 2024, 10:07:10 AM
Post by: JakeLand on January 24, 2024, 02:02:07 PM
so 3 days notice is all given ? Seems like they’re trying to scoot this under the doorHow did we not know about this earlier ?It didn't get introduced until the 22nd.
Post by: LDennis24 on January 24, 2024, 04:13:17 PM
Bout time for a civil war
You Conservative folks better head East. There's only 13 routes with bridges to cut off to stop everyone from the Westside from coming East when the SHF! Seriously... it would be easy to isolate that area.
Post by: dwils233 on January 24, 2024, 07:18:23 PM
https://www.backcountryhunters.org/take_action?utm_campaign=action_alert_6294&utm_medium=email&utm_source=backcountryhunters#/395
Post by: Humptulips on January 25, 2024, 06:37:36 PM
Of course, the animal rights people were there, and they're probably optimistic too so no time to let up.
With that being said you can still submit written testimony to the Committee or just register a con.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 25, 2024, 08:05:14 PM
Post by: Humptulips on January 25, 2024, 09:23:14 PM
How does this affect the tribes? I haven't found anything about it in links. Would they be able to be the fur brokers and farmers? Or is Seattle trying to tell them what they can/can't do?1st, The hearing today was on a substitute bill. Senator Stanford (Sponsor of the bill) announced that at the hearing but the substitute bill is still not published on their website so I don't know for sure what has changed. They did talk about an exemption for fly tying.
To your question there is no mention of an exemption for Native Americans in the original Bill and I think if that had changed in the substitute Bill he would have mentioned it today.
Post by: HighlandLofts on January 27, 2024, 05:44:49 PM
I'm sooooo sick of these scum sucking bottom feeding pieces of s#!÷.
Post by: Mustelidae on January 31, 2024, 05:53:21 PM
I didn't see this bill on the floor today. Does that mean its officially dead?
Post by: Humptulips on January 31, 2024, 06:01:59 PM
@HumptulipsI think so. It needed a second reading today by the Rules Committee to stay alive and it doesn't show that it happened.
I didn't see this bill on the floor today. Does that mean its officially dead?
The beaver bill has a few more days as it is considered budgetary. It has until the 5th to get a second reading.
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Post by: DishBogget on February 02, 2024, 12:17:43 PM
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Post by: JakeLand on February 02, 2024, 02:19:00 PM
It’s dead, didn’t make it out of committee👍
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Post by: KNOPHISH on February 02, 2024, 02:57:51 PM
Post by: DishBogget on February 05, 2024, 10:23:09 AM
Until next year. They will definitely try again.Wouldn’t be surprised
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Post by: GWP on February 05, 2024, 11:04:41 AM
Death by a thousand cuts.
They will not give up.
Post by: Southpole on February 05, 2024, 12:10:42 PM
Post by: Humptulips on February 05, 2024, 12:40:23 PM
Said it already, get on the Washington state legislature website and look for bills at introduction level. Too many people not being pro active at watching bills and or relying on other people to let them know what’s happening. You can respond to these bills with a click of a button, it’s too easy to say you don’t have time. Sometimes you’ll never know about a bill until you go buy a dozen eggs at the grocery store and wonder why the prices have doubled or tripled. That one got by everyone in the state.I don't think it got by 'everyone". The Bill was introduced on the 22nd, scheduled for a hearing on the 23rd and had the hearing on the 25th. They tried to sneak it by, but we knew about it and had a pretty good slate to testify against in the hearing. The early warnings on this Bill came from multiple people. I commend everyone for being so alert.
Post by: Southpole on February 05, 2024, 12:43:51 PM
I was talking about the new egg law that just went into effect this year. That got by everyone in 2019.Said it already, get on the Washington state legislature website and look for bills at introduction level. Too many people not being pro active at watching bills and or relying on other people to let them know what’s happening. You can respond to these bills with a click of a button, it’s too easy to say you don’t have time. Sometimes you’ll never know about a bill until you go buy a dozen eggs at the grocery store and wonder why the prices have doubled or tripled. That one got by everyone in the state.I don't think it got by 'everyone". The Bill was introduced on the 22nd, scheduled for a hearing on the 23rd and had the hearing on the 25th. They tried to sneak it by, but we knew about it and had a pretty good slate to testify against in the hearing. The early warnings on this Bill came from multiple people. I commend everyone for being so alert.