Post by: wolfbait on January 23, 2024, 05:06:06 PM
The owner is pro-wolf, don't know if he still is.
Post by: MADMAX on January 23, 2024, 05:09:33 PM
Poor dog
Post by: wolfbait on January 23, 2024, 05:20:39 PM
Camera pics ?
Poor dog
From my understanding the wife had to watch it from start to finish, i wouldn't be asking anyone for pictures....
Post by: boneaddict on January 23, 2024, 05:30:20 PM
Post by: ShedHead20 on January 23, 2024, 05:38:39 PM
Post by: ffhoofer on January 23, 2024, 05:41:23 PM
If the owner was in fact pro wolf, I’m sure they are absolutely PUMPED to see the wolves in their own backyard! They should considered themselves lucky to have seen them and even more lucky to have seen them make a kill. Nature is beautiful
Spot on.
Post by: wolfbait on January 23, 2024, 06:03:56 PM
If the owner was in fact pro wolf, I’m sure they are absolutely PUMPED to see the wolves in their own backyard! They should considered themselves lucky to have seen them and even more lucky to have seen them make a kill. Nature is beautiful
Quite sure they weren't as Excited as they are about wolves killing deer, kind of puts things into perspective.
Game Warden who investigated the kill, told the owner he could shoot the wolves if they came back.
Post by: wolfbait on January 23, 2024, 06:07:01 PM
Lots of huggers there. Reap what you sow I guess. Poor dog though
Lots of ignorant wolf lovers all over the Methow at this point, but then they been brain washed by the USFWS, WDFW and the fake environmental groups for several years now.
Post by: MADMAX on January 23, 2024, 06:14:32 PM
Camera pics ?
Poor dog
From my understanding the wife had to watch it from start to finish, i wouldn't be asking anyone for pictures....
Just figured it happened when no home or at night and was caught on camera
Can’t imagine watching it without running them off at the very least
Sad
Post by: bigmacc on January 23, 2024, 06:42:31 PM
Post by: chukardogs on January 23, 2024, 06:52:10 PM
Post by: MADMAX on January 23, 2024, 07:04:12 PM
Not seeing anything recent
But a ton of wolf kills dogs videos for last 10 years or so
Post by: chukardogs on January 23, 2024, 07:19:15 PM
Post by: HighlandLofts on January 23, 2024, 08:46:27 PM
I'm happy for his wife or whatever it is for getting a front row seat and seeing it up and close.
Post by: ghosthunter on January 23, 2024, 09:11:03 PM
When stuff like this happens I get a smile when it happens to the libaturd tree huggers.
I'm happy for his wife or whatever it is for getting a front row seat and seeing it up and close.
:yeah:
Post by: bornhunter on January 23, 2024, 09:26:52 PM
4 wolves tearing apart and eating my pet = 4 dead wolves on the spot.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on January 23, 2024, 09:33:08 PM
Post by: wolfbait on January 23, 2024, 11:37:14 PM
Where's the news story? Is this so common now that something like this wouldn't make the news?
From past experiences with WDF$wolves they would just a soon it didn't hit the papers, usually the only way it hits the paper is if it's reported on the Methow bulletin board.
From my understanding wolves caused a lot of problems in the Methow Valley last summer, none of it made it into the local rag..
Post by: MtnMuley on January 24, 2024, 05:02:27 AM
Post by: raydog on January 24, 2024, 05:10:36 AM
Post by: 2MANY on January 24, 2024, 06:40:47 AM
Not a fan of wolf lovers.
German Sheppards are a close third.
Post by: birddogdad on January 24, 2024, 07:02:26 AM
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Post by: Alchase on January 24, 2024, 07:20:37 AM
Up Texas creek four wolves came into a yard and killed a german Shepard, owner was at work, wolves ate everything but the head and paws.
The owner is pro-wolf, don't know if he still is.
Isn't there a law against feeding predators :dunno:
:chuckle:
Leaving your dog outside in wolf country, might as well ring the dinner bell :rolleyes:
Post by: Special T on January 24, 2024, 07:25:28 AM
When stuff like this happens I get a smile when it happens to the libaturd tree huggers.
I'm happy for his wife or whatever it is for getting a front row seat and seeing it up and close.
I think a better way to say this is to say they were mugged by reality.
The I told you so dance may feel good, but does stating it this way help? I cant say I haven't thought the same thing. If we want to WAG our finger as we slide into the abyss our current approach will take there.
Post by: link on January 24, 2024, 07:50:19 AM
Post by: boneaddict on January 24, 2024, 07:56:04 AM
Post by: chukardogs on January 24, 2024, 07:58:38 AM
Post by: Sandberm on January 24, 2024, 08:10:38 AM
She's probably basking in the attention she is getting from her peer group.
Post by: timberfaller on January 24, 2024, 08:46:01 AM
Post by: 2MANY on January 24, 2024, 11:08:37 AM
:rolleyes:
Post by: boneaddict on January 24, 2024, 11:13:31 AM
Post by: GOcougsHunter on January 24, 2024, 11:22:24 AM
Post by: wolfbait on January 24, 2024, 11:35:10 AM
The nice thing about wolves is that there are far fewer coyotes killing fawns these days.
That's true, but wolves kill the hell out of fawns too, I don't think it was a good trade off.
Wolves kill the offspring, and kill the mature elk, deer etc. pretty soon your herds are aged, they start to die off or get killed and what we have left is a predator pit which is where we have been for some time.
The few deer we have left are always on the run, always on full alert. We had a huge herd of five come off the top yesterday goin all out, they crossed the flat and went up the other side, stood just below the ridge-line looking back and pacing for about an hour before heading for the river bottom.
Drive the loop from the Methow side to the summit you won't see one single deer except those in town and even those are way down. 60 some years ago when we had the Game Department you would have counted deer in the hundreds.
I know, you know all this Bone
Post by: 2MANY on January 24, 2024, 11:42:31 AM
Critters that know get gone in a hurry.
Post by: Special T on January 24, 2024, 11:54:32 AM
Just a FWIW, Anyone living in these rural areas that has first hand knowledge of wolf attacks on pets, needs to make sure that the main stream news hear about it. The non-hunting public (a group of people, hunters should be coveting) care very little about wildlife or livestock. Pets however, there's something that the single woman living in an apartment in the metropolis or the soccer mom living in the suburbs of the Puget Sound may actually pay attention to and care about. Seeing and hearing on the news about a woman having to watch her family's pet get killed and devoured by wolves is golden in terms of information that will start turning the tide on the sentiment toward the wolves. Anyone who knows anything about wolves and their penchant for any animal that walks or flies knows that this experiment won't end well for wolves. It may take a while but there was a reason people over the centuries have kept the wolves at bay. The people that live a nice comfortable existence in a place protected by miles of concrete need to hear about things like this every time it happens. A lot of these people want to leave the Urban blanky on the weekends to spend time in the outdoors. Things like this may give them pause and make them think twice about planning a few days in the countryside. Any time the masses have to consider an issue like this, it may get us to the end of this experiment just a little sooner.:yeah:
Post by: raydog on January 24, 2024, 12:53:36 PM
I do feel bad for the dog. German shepards are great dogs, they dont deserve ignorant owners.
Post by: wolfbait on January 24, 2024, 01:02:28 PM
Just a FWIW, Anyone living in these rural areas that has first hand knowledge of wolf attacks on pets, needs to make sure that the main stream news hear about it. The non-hunting public (a group of people, hunters should be coveting) care very little about wildlife or livestock. Pets however, there's something that the single woman living in an apartment in the metropolis or the soccer mom living in the suburbs of the Puget Sound may actually pay attention to and care about. Seeing and hearing on the news about a woman having to watch her family's pet get killed and devoured by wolves is golden in terms of information that will start turning the tide on the sentiment toward the wolves. Anyone who knows anything about wolves and their penchant for any animal that walks or flies knows that this experiment won't end well for wolves. It may take a while but there was a reason people over the centuries have kept the wolves at bay. The people that live a nice comfortable existence in a place protected by miles of concrete need to hear about things like this every time it happens. A lot of these people want to leave the Urban blanky on the weekends to spend time in the outdoors. Things like this may give them pause and make them think twice about planning a few days in the countryside. Any time the masses have to consider an issue like this, it may get us to the end of this experiment just a little sooner.
I wonder what the percentage is in changing a pro-wolfers mind?
Over the years I have talked with many I met out in the brush or while driving down back roads and county roads, I explain to them about how dogs are wolf magnets and that if they are going to be out hiking/walking with or without their dogs they should be packing. Four that I know of, who actually asked questions, within a week three of the women had gotten guns and learned how to shoot. The forth, a guy had to shoot a wolf off his dog 2 months later, he called me and told me the story, and no he didn't report it to the joke known as wdf&wolves. One lady I talk to said she would be extremely happy to be eatin by wolves-brain dead to the hilt. There are those who get over bearing as they know everything there is to know about wolves, how they balance the ecosystem bla, bla, bla, just walk away cuz you aren’t guna want to listen to their fairly tale stories of wolves.
We had been seeing wolves in this one area quite a bit and one morning we met this lady out hiking, I told her she should be packing if she was going to be hiking in the area as we had seen a few wolves, she started in with her the wolves are great BS and then switched to politics and started bashing Trump, like there was some kind of connection. I told her I wasn't going to talk politics with her and that made her even madder :chuckle:, I said have a nice day and rode off.
In 2009 I talk with a guy who lost two dogs to wolves in less than a week, I tried to get him to report it to wdfw and the paper He said he wouldn’t do that because he didn’t want to give the wolves a bad name. He said he would just buy a couple more dogs and keep them in the house. Come to find out wdfw had released wolves close to his place the week before.
. There are those who have the 4000+ square feet “cabins in the woods” who are extremely arrogant, they are a special class of people that no amount of explaining will penetrate their mind set, they are going to need some up close bad wolf encounters before they start to see the real wolf, unfortunately they don’t spend much time over here, but they do have multi million dollar cabins in the woods.
With so many years of brain washing by TV, MSM, WDFW, USFWS and the fake environmentalist these people are sure they are right and most of them are not going to listen to anything negative about wolves. And the pro-wolf crowd who have bad experiences with wolves, come out with the BS that they live in the wolfs space so they have to learn to share, I heard that from a couple this summer, and have heard it from others. I think that info probably came from wdfw or cnw, and those who can’t think for themselves scoop it right up and repeat it.
Getting MSM to report anything negative about wolves is just about impossible just like the covid jabs, and probably the main reason so many people are in the dark about wolves. And if you do get a story in a local paper they will slant it to favor wolves and if you report it to wdfw they will spin it to excuse the wolves or flat out lie. On the other hand, an up close bad experience seems to penetrate fairly quickly for most people.
I have talk to a few of the pro-wolf people about grizzly bears, funny they don’t have the same love for the big bears as they do for wolves. I think when the usfws bears start making trouble the BS factor will have to be a special blend. I’m quite sure they will be dumping problem bears on us like they did with cow killing wolves, I also wander if they will drop the bears within a mile of town like they did with wolves in the Twisp area.
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Post by: wolfbait on January 24, 2024, 05:34:39 PM
It might make the news if its a little gal walking her dog that gets nailed. Thats a popular past time on many of those local backcountry roads in wolf country
Yep, and the sad thing is you can't make the parents understand the danger of wolves. I was talking with some greenies from the wet side one time 6 years ago about the wolf/cougar problems we have here, he said what about bears? I told him if you see a bear coming at you just find a stick and throw it as far as you can the other way, and when the bear runs to get it, you run the other way. His response was, Does that really work! I was a bit shocked that he took it hook line and sinker. My wife was standing there and she cleared the matter up and gave me hell for giving out false info to the guy :chuckle:
His daughter was over visiting with her little three year old daughter, she was crawling around under the porch, I told them they shouldn't let her do that as where they live it's loaded with rattlesnakes "lower Alder cr., didn't seem to faze him, he said the snakes would move out of her way.
The above pretty much gives a good clue as to the amount of knowledge many of the people that now live here have when it comes to wolves etc..
Post by: chukardogs on January 24, 2024, 05:43:26 PM
Post by: MADMAX on January 24, 2024, 06:09:12 PM
I can honestly say, when I look at the lessons that were worth learning in life, I've learned a few of them the hard way. That said, there are quite a few people that don't have to whack themselves in the knee with an axe to learn to keep their knee out of the way. My point, there are people (God bless them) that no matter how much information you give them, no matter how many people they watch have a bad experience, you can't help them. It's just a fact of life. Until something happens to them, they're gonna be who they are. Which, when you think about it, we need a few of their ilk to have a good laugh now and then. The rest of society however, if given the information may take it and make informed decisions. Honestly, I have to believe that the Urban Subaru lovin transplants that have made the Twisp/Method valley home, aren't the group to gauge all of society by. That's just not fair!
Rectal cranial inversion
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Post by: HighlandLofts on January 26, 2024, 05:38:07 PM
These wolves would have eaten deer if hunters hadn't previously shot them all!!!
:rolleyes:
There are no deer or elk there because the scum sucking wolves ate them all.
Post by: HighlandLofts on January 26, 2024, 05:50:09 PM
Post by: highcountry_hunter on January 26, 2024, 06:42:54 PM
I know it’s not a laughing matter, but when you said “a huge herd of 5 deer” I got a really good belly laugh.The nice thing about wolves is that there are far fewer coyotes killing fawns these days.
That's true, but wolves kill the hell out of fawns too, I don't think it was a good trade off.
Wolves kill the offspring, and kill the mature elk, deer etc. pretty soon your herds are aged, they start to die off or get killed and what we have left is a predator pit which is where we have been for some time.
The few deer we have left are always on the run, always on full alert. We had a huge herd of five come off the top yesterday goin all out, they crossed the flat and went up the other side, stood just below the ridge-line looking back and pacing for about an hour before heading for the river bottom.
Drive the loop from the Methow side to the summit you won't see one single deer except those in town and even those are way down. 60 some years ago when we had the Game Department you would have counted deer in the hundreds.
I know, you know all this Bone
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