Post by: chukardogs on January 29, 2024, 06:48:18 PM
I went though all of my books and the internet and found no data specifically related to the TBBC bullets. I contacted Federal (who was absolutely no help) because they've been selling the bullets, Their exact response was,
Waren,
Thank you for contacting us. We do not have any reloading data for those projectiles and no longer offer them as components.
Thanks
Federal
Lots of help, they were!
Anywhoo, I looked at the 200 gr. bullets I do have information on and imo the nearest bullet is the Speer Grand Slam in 200 gr. I used the middle of the range out of the Speer book because I'm not a big fan of black eyes. If anyone has another opinion on how to look at this, please let me know. Thanks
Post by: JWBINX on January 29, 2024, 06:55:59 PM
Use the data from the speer manual or go online and see who has a load
for 300 H&H 200 grains.
Hodgdon powder has a lot of load data online.
Post by: chukardogs on January 29, 2024, 07:05:49 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on January 29, 2024, 08:34:31 PM
Post by: chukardogs on January 29, 2024, 09:01:56 PM
You can't buy them in any sizes except the larger bore .375x300 gr. anymore so I guess those days are over. I've found the Speer Grand Slam is also a sledge hammer. Pretty much all I reload for my 25-06 these days. 120 gr. Grand Slam dropped a Caribou at 375 in it's tracks.
Post by: JWBINX on January 29, 2024, 09:19:28 PM
Imo those were the best bullets ever made for big game. Maybe not ballistically great but from point blank to 400 yards amazing mushroom everytime. I did kill shots at point blank range and still had perfect mushrooms.
I agree!!
I was hunting Caribou with my Federal rep in the 90s and he wounded a Caribou late in the day.
As it ran towards some timber I anchored it with a .338 225 gr Trophy bonded original from Jack Carter.
The bullet travelled nearly the length of it's body (Texas Heart shot) and retained 98% of it weight.
Good times.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on January 30, 2024, 07:47:28 AM
Post by: chukardogs on January 30, 2024, 10:43:19 AM
I guess my point in all this is, we as shooters put a lot of stock in the numbers in the data like the ballistic coefficients of the different bullets but for the average shooter at reasonable hunting yardage, their affect on the bottom line are negligible. Once I get these 300 H&H loads finished and get some rounds down the barrel, I may be singing a completely different tune but for now, I think these TBBCs will fly just fine.
Hey just a FWIW, I'm not saying there aren't other brands of bullets out there that could have given as good or better results but with what I had readily available in the outlets around me, this was what I found. In no means am I saying these bullets are better than others.
Post by: theunseenvw on April 13, 2024, 11:49:59 PM
Post by: huntnnw on April 14, 2024, 05:22:45 AM
Imo those were the best bullets ever made for big game. Maybe not ballistically great but from point blank to 400 yards amazing mushroom everytime. I did kill shots at point blank range and still had perfect mushrooms.
Not me! I quit using them after a failure on a bear. I shot a bear at 400 yards shooting almost straight down. Bear dropped and never found it. 2 days later sitting 600 yards over from where I shot bear a bear that looked the same came by with a slight gimp. I shot bear and got down to it and noticed immediately a huge hole in back the bullet exploded I could see into it’s chest and lungs from the hole. Bullet never even made it into the lungs. Bullet woulda stayed together it was placed perfectly woulda hit lungs and been dead in seconds . Fragments all over in hole and never used them again.
Post by: chukardogs on April 14, 2024, 08:45:09 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 14, 2024, 08:27:04 PM
Wow! Straight thru backbone and it shrugged it off? Cocaine Bear? LolImo those were the best bullets ever made for big game. Maybe not ballistically great but from point blank to 400 yards amazing mushroom everytime. I did kill shots at point blank range and still had perfect mushrooms.
Not me! I quit using them after a failure on a bear. I shot a bear at 400 yards shooting almost straight down. Bear dropped and never found it. 2 days later sitting 600 yards over from where I shot bear a bear that looked the same came by with a slight gimp. I shot bear and got down to it and noticed immediately a huge hole in back the bullet exploded I could see into it’s chest and lungs from the hole. Bullet never even made it into the lungs. Bullet woulda stayed together it was placed perfectly woulda hit lungs and been dead in seconds . Fragments all over in hole and never used them again.
Post by: chukardogs on April 14, 2024, 09:33:57 PM