Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 02, 2024, 01:38:36 PM
Post by: boneaddict on February 02, 2024, 02:12:01 PM
Post by: snit on February 02, 2024, 02:18:43 PM
No lie, I'm quite surprised actually...but I'm sure the anti's are already circling the wagons with their attorneys, figuring out how/what to appeal...
Post by: hunter399 on February 02, 2024, 03:44:25 PM
:yeah::yeah:
No lie, I'm quite surprised actually...but I'm sure the anti's are already circling the wagons with their attorneys, figuring out how/what to appeal...
Yup,that's funny right there. Wagons full circle.
Center for biological diversity about half there staff are attorneys.
So ya funny and true.
Post by: hughjorgan on February 02, 2024, 04:15:13 PM
Post by: Jake Dogfish on February 02, 2024, 05:09:23 PM
All the anti groups that sue over the delisting do nothing for wildlife or their habitat but claim the title of conservation; yet you look at conservation done by hunters they can show projects to improve habitat, land acquisitions, etc. All your going to see from the other side is their ability to litigate and squander money from wildlife agencies that would other wise go to real conservation efforts that benefit all citizens.:yeah:
Post by: Humptulips on February 02, 2024, 06:00:47 PM
Post by: ducks4days on February 02, 2024, 06:01:45 PM
Post by: Tbar on February 02, 2024, 07:50:16 PM
I don't see it as a win exactly. Not a loss but no change in status so kind of treading water.:yeah:
And a step back in many ways. The service has asked for delisting starting with the Obama administration.
Post by: chukardogs on February 02, 2024, 08:18:45 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 03, 2024, 11:02:37 AM
Post by: Caseyd on February 03, 2024, 11:15:54 AM
They will remain on WA state's endangered list forever. This may be good news for ID, WY, and MT. But it won't affect management in WA.
Every other special interest group has done what they want in Washington basically since Chop/Chaz. Hunters as a special interest group could easily handle the problem and not a damn thing the state could do. The money and resources just aren’t there. I deal with several Washington government organizations and they are all falling behind.
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 03, 2024, 11:22:41 AM
They will remain on WA state's endangered list forever. This may be good news for ID, WY, and MT. But it won't affect management in WA.
Every other special interest group has done what they want in Washington basically since Chop/Chaz. Hunters as a special interest group could easily handle the problem and not a damn thing the state could do. The money and resources just aren’t there. I deal with several Washington government organizations and they are all falling behind.
Organizations like Defenders and HSUS spend big money on catching wolf poachers (and nothing on elk or deer poachers). Large rewards and possibly third-party investigators are some of the tools they use. They'll stop at nothing to end hunting. The wolves are just one tool to accomplish that and they have the full support of the governor because of their generous "donations".
Post by: wolfbait on February 03, 2024, 12:09:35 PM
They will remain on WA state's endangered list forever. This may be good news for ID, WY, and MT. But it won't affect management in WA.
Every other special interest group has done what they want in Washington basically since Chop/Chaz. Hunters as a special interest group could easily handle the problem and not a damn thing the state could do. The money and resources just aren’t there. I deal with several Washington government organizations and they are all falling behind.
Organizations like Defenders and HSUS spend big money on catching wolf poachers (and nothing on elk or deer poachers). Large rewards and possibly third-party investigators are some of the tools they use. They'll stop at nothing to end hunting. The wolves are just one tool to accomplish that and they have the full support of the governor because of their generous "donations".
Wolves poach 24/7, as a predator nothing compares to their decimation of the game herds.
Good Job H-W wolf lovers, are you proud of yourselves? Was it worth all that money you made from the fake environmentalist to support wolves on hunting forums? Losing all respect from real hunters etc. once the truth was known.
Post by: nwwanderer on February 03, 2024, 03:30:28 PM
Post by: wolfbait on February 04, 2024, 12:23:22 PM
I don't see it as a win exactly. Not a loss but no change in status so kind of treading water.:yeah:
And a step back in many ways. The service has asked for delisting starting with the Obama administration.
And each time delisting rolled around the fake environmental groups sued and won, it seemed the USFWS and the fake environmental groups were working together along with the bought judges.
Post by: 300rum on February 05, 2024, 10:25:12 AM
Sad deal, they took the very best.
Post by: MADMAX on February 07, 2024, 04:51:27 PM
Link is there to email your comments
Tell them what you think
Post by: MADMAX on February 07, 2024, 05:16:06 PM
And they are as sharp as a marble
Here’s the response back
What the heck does a Ferruginous hawk have to do with wolf public comments????
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