Post by: JakeLand on February 06, 2024, 08:26:55 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on February 06, 2024, 09:09:01 PM
This season date change to me is a bigger slap in the face then going to a 1 bear limit.
Also the proposal to use state depredation killed cougars against recreational hunting quota is a joke. So many flaws with what is happening.
And proposal to get rid of hunter orange during modern makes no sense. For them always talking about safety concerns.
Post by: Humptulips on February 06, 2024, 09:55:36 PM
I'll see if I can find anything out.
Post by: hunter399 on February 07, 2024, 07:32:54 AM
It's pretty interesting,sounds like some of these changes are not needed.
Basically saying they will be reviewing these changes in the game management plan.
Overall looks like the department doesn't agree 💯 with it.
Also the department says a lot of cougar management is based on the current harvest rate.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2024-01/12524-wdfw-response-cougar-and-bear-rule-making-options.pdf
Post by: hunter399 on February 07, 2024, 08:35:53 AM
It's any human caused death of a cougar will count towards quota.
Road kill cougar.
Shoot a cougar in self defense,or attacking livestock.
The way it's worded is kinda crazy.
All this looks like it's coming up in the commission meeting in February.
Here's a link to proposals....
https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2024-01/12524-wildlife-committee-bear-cougar-rule-making-options.pdf
Post by: DishBogget on February 07, 2024, 08:40:15 AM
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Post by: Humptulips on February 07, 2024, 10:13:28 AM
There’s a couple more I’ve seen as well though I can’t find them now. One would outlaw rat traps and the other would put a limit on beaversThose are off the table. All these recommendations came from somewhere within the Department. They then were presented to the Wildlife Committee with a recommendation from the Director on which ones should be given further consideration. The Wildlife Committee than gave the Director direction to write proposed language on the ones he recommended. The ones he had recommended against which the two you mentioned are among, didn't make the cut. The only ones being considered are check time on restraining traps, turning in bobcat jaws, reporting requirements for cats and otters which we already do and season setting.
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I will note the Wildlife Committee did keep regulations on Sea ducks for themselves to write. Everything else is on the Directors desk for now. I don't believe any language on these proposals is final as of now.
We will probably see the proposals scheduled to go to the Commission in May so we should see them available for public Comment sometime in March.
Post by: hunter399 on February 07, 2024, 02:49:23 PM
Find out where everyone stands.
I'm guilty of throwing the book at WDFW in the past.
Got some respect out of me ,just to hear there response and know what's going.
I like that kind of format.
Post by: DishBogget on February 09, 2024, 09:42:51 AM
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Post by: hughjorgan on February 09, 2024, 11:48:50 AM
Also with cougar.
It's any human caused death of a cougar will count towards quota.
Road kill cougar.
Shoot a cougar in self defense,or attacking livestock.
The way it's worded is kinda crazy.
All this looks like it's coming up in the commission meeting in February.
Here's a link to proposals....
https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2024-01/12524-wildlife-committee-bear-cougar-rule-making-options.pdf
This isn’t consistent with the social science where almost three quarters of Washingtonians surveyed believed predators should be managed to help struggling deer and elk.
“Respondents were first informed that the overall health of deer and elk populations can vary because of factors including severe winters or poor habitat conditions. They were further informed that, when deer or elk populations are depressed, predators can hinder the population's ability to rebound. Respondents were then asked about their support for or opposition to reducing predator populations to increase deer or elk herds that are below population objectives. In these cases, support (71%) far exceeds opposition (15%).”
The survey is from 2014 conducted by WDFW.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 09, 2024, 11:53:55 AM
Post by: hughjorgan on February 09, 2024, 12:31:54 PM
Do you have a link to the results from that survey
https://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01594
The public is on the side of hunters and has been consistently that way in past surveys done in 2002 and 2008. Social science is on the hunters side when it comes to predators.