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Title: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: CJ1962 on February 22, 2024, 09:41:15 AM
I ordered a suppressor through Silencer Central about a year ago.  I have confirmed the paperwork was received on 4/27/23.  I knew it would take several months so I wasn't really worried about it.  Then a friend that ordered one a few months after me (also through Silencer Central) received his. So on 1/17/24 I called and was told my background check status was delayed.  And my only course of action was to look at the www.fbi.gov website, which I found was no help.  I called again today and my status is still delayed.  I have my CPL, an active Secret Clearance, no felonies, and have never been delayed on a gun purchase.  I do have the same name as my dad and he recently passed away, but I would think that would be easily resolved.

Has anyone had any luck figuring out why they are or were delayed?

Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Whitefoot on February 22, 2024, 09:48:56 AM
Delayed just means they have like hundreds of thousands of apps and maybe like 5 people working on them.  Delayed to me would mean they just haven't got to it or possibly doing additional back ground check due to same name as your dad.  That happened to my friend that had exact same name too.  Just going take longer imo.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: trophyhunt on February 22, 2024, 10:35:03 AM
Seems like it’s just luck of the draw, when I bought mine a guy got his approval in 10 days! The guys behind the counter couldn’t believe it. Usually 6-9 months he said.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Gentrys on February 22, 2024, 10:42:43 AM
I had a delay on my first one years ago.  Stayed that way for over a year then recieved word from ATF that it had something to do with the FBI's background check on me.  Eventually I got denied.  Ended up getting a UPIN number and then started all over with the process.  Now I'm good to go.  Never did find out why I got denied the first time around.  Frustrating process for sure!
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: dreadi on February 22, 2024, 11:35:53 AM
It's all bull. I have five guy with six background checks all in Delayed NTN, with no solid explanation from the ATF, and the FBI claiming that all background checks inquired about have been resolved. All but one of them already own suppressors, AND I have one customer that holds a FFL that got denied. The Feds are playing games at the customer's expense.


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Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: asmith on February 22, 2024, 11:46:49 AM
Now this makes me worry.  I have my final phone appointment tomorrow with silencer central before submitting for mine. 
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: zwickeyman on February 22, 2024, 11:56:39 AM
I just picked up 4 th e other day. A little over 7 1/2  months. The guys at the counter said it has been between 7 and 9 months average lately but we all know there are out lyers both ways. He said he recently had a 3 months and a 15 month
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 22, 2024, 12:00:55 PM
I've been waiting a month just to get my f4 certified. Eforms won't let my ffl complete it. Silencer Shop has been zero help. Won't be purchasing from them again. It's beyond frustrating.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: dreadi on February 22, 2024, 12:25:34 PM
I've been waiting a month just to get my f4 certified. Eforms won't let my ffl complete it. Silencer Shop has been zero help. Won't be purchasing from them again. It's beyond frustrating.
I've been certifying forms with Silencer Shop without any issues. Your FFL needs to step up their game and work around the Full Auto system.


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Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: dreadi on February 22, 2024, 12:26:59 PM
Examples of the Feds playing games.

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Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 22, 2024, 12:30:11 PM
I've been waiting a month just to get my f4 certified. Eforms won't let my ffl complete it. Silencer Shop has been zero help. Won't be purchasing from them again. It's beyond frustrating.
I've been certifying forms with Silencer Shop without any issues. Your FFL needs to step up their game and work around the Full Auto system.


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I agree.  I'm beyond frustrated
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Buckjunkie on February 22, 2024, 01:32:44 PM
I have bought 4 suppressors in the last two years. 3 took 9 months and one took a few days over a year.

I really like the times Dreadi just posted! Maybe they are improving the process.

I thought they might be sitting on mine because of my likes on social media😂😂
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: trophyhunt on February 22, 2024, 02:01:08 PM
I have bought 4 suppressors in the last two years. 3 took 9 months and one took a few days over a year.

I really like the times Dreadi just posted! Maybe they are improving the process.

I thought they might be sitting on mine because of my likes on social media😂😂
Im pretty sure if they look at my Facebook posts I’ll be denied!
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 22, 2024, 02:03:33 PM
I have bought 4 suppressors in the last two years. 3 took 9 months and one took a few days over a year.

I really like the times Dreadi just posted! Maybe they are improving the process.

I thought they might be sitting on mine because of my likes on social media😂😂
tons of sub 100 approvals lately from what I've gathered from my interweb reading.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Dan-o on February 22, 2024, 02:16:28 PM
You guys are starting to stress me out.

I'm in line with Dana for 3.... and I don't want to wait.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: boneaddict on February 22, 2024, 02:19:24 PM
Think of it as having a child Dan-O.   Some excitement up front, a little bit of work, then you wait 9 months.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: bustedoldman on February 22, 2024, 04:10:12 PM
I bought 2 more in late 2023 and it only took 4 months total, the 3 before that was 8-12 months. Luck of the draw I guess.......
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Dan-o on February 22, 2024, 05:40:11 PM
Think of it as having a child Dan-O.   Some excitement up front, a little bit of work, then you wait 9 months.

 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: asmith on February 23, 2024, 10:12:46 AM
My official wait time started today.  Just had everything officially submitted.  Was told typical times right now are around the 8 month mark, but can be between 6 and 10 months.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: CJ1962 on April 24, 2024, 11:02:27 AM
Finally got my notification today.  So took me almost 13 months.  It would be nice to no what the delay was, but happy it was finally approved.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: dreadi on April 24, 2024, 11:32:22 AM
Finally got my notification today.  So took me almost 13 months.  It would be nice to no what the delay was, but happy it was finally approved.

I've got a nickel from 1964 that says part of it was your active security clearance.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Buckjunkie on April 24, 2024, 12:49:10 PM
Finally got my notification today.  So took me almost 13 months.  It would be nice to no what the delay was, but happy it was finally approved.

I've got a nickel from 1964 that says part of it was your active security clearance.

Is it just active security clearances that appear to delay approval, or do past security clearances matter as well?
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: dreadi on April 24, 2024, 02:41:39 PM
Finally got my notification today.  So took me almost 13 months.  It would be nice to no what the delay was, but happy it was finally approved.

I've got a nickel from 1964 that says part of it was your active security clearance.

Is it just active security clearances that appear to delay approval, or do past security clearances matter as well?

It's a roll of the dice. However, there is a consistency amongst customers I have that when there's delay, they have or have had a security clearance.  But here's an interesting one for you.

Two customers both active duty. One has a higher level of clearance than the other. Both bought suppressors from me. The one with the lower level bought first but, his came in last. The one with the higher level got approved in a few days. The lower level took a month.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: CJ1962 on April 24, 2024, 09:35:34 PM
You would think having a Secret Security Clearance would help....   But they probably wonder what you know that they don't know  :dunno:
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Dan-o on April 24, 2024, 09:40:26 PM
You would think having a Secret Security Clearance would help....   But they probably wonder what you know that they don't know  :dunno:

Carl, It's just you.    ;)

You know my background.
I got mine (with trusts!) in about 2.5 months.   
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: CJ1962 on April 25, 2024, 07:33:11 AM
You would think having a Secret Security Clearance would help....   But they probably wonder what you know that they don't know  :dunno:

Carl, It's just you.    ;)

You know my background.
I got mine (with trusts!) in about 2.5 months.   

I would think with all your bigfoot posts yours would have been delayed indefinitely.   :)
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: dreadi on May 02, 2024, 11:57:49 AM
Anyone that is dealing with a delay or haven't received a response, and it's been more than eight months should be contacting their Congressman's office.

https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member


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Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: asmith on September 03, 2024, 09:17:28 AM
Finally got the approval on August 21st.  Started the process February 2nd. 

It is getting mailed out today, now that the 7 day waiting period is over for notification to my local law enforcement.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Machias on September 04, 2024, 02:11:17 PM
Just got two last week, about the same length of time as your wait.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: dreadi on September 04, 2024, 03:43:26 PM
Finally got the approval on August 21st.  Started the process February 2nd. 

It is getting mailed out today, now that the 7 day waiting period is over for notification to my local law enforcement.
Why were you given a 7 day waiting period for an NFA item after it was approved?


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Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: chester on September 04, 2024, 06:08:55 PM
Finally got the approval on August 21st.  Started the process February 2nd. 

It is getting mailed out today, now that the 7 day waiting period is over for notification to my local law enforcement.
Why were you given a 7 day waiting period for an NFA item after it was approved?


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Is this a new thing? Haven’t had to wait 7 days for any of mine.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: dreadi on September 04, 2024, 06:10:46 PM
Finally got the approval on August 21st.  Started the process February 2nd. 

It is getting mailed out today, now that the 7 day waiting period is over for notification to my local law enforcement.
Why were you given a 7 day waiting period for an NFA item after it was approved?


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Is this a new thing? Haven’t had to wait 7 days for any of mine.
No. It's a not. However, it sounds like someone made up their own rules.


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Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: asmith on September 05, 2024, 06:14:37 AM
All I know is Silencer Central, in their email to me said they are required to notify my local LEO that they are shipping a silencer, and have to wait 7 days after confirmation.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: dreadi on September 05, 2024, 07:28:59 AM
I'll eat crow sometime if I can ever find the answer to why they do that. It's not a new step in their process.  If you buy from a store that's in our state, that step is not part of the process.


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Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: asmith on September 05, 2024, 07:47:11 AM
I'll eat crow sometime if I can ever find the answer to why they do that. It's not a new step in their process.  If you buy from a store that's in our state, that step is not part of the process.


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This one I picked up at a NRA auction.  So yes, next time I will buy locally.  This whole process, with silencer central, was not a very good one.  Customer service is definitely not the best.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: dreadi on September 05, 2024, 08:05:54 AM
I'll eat crow sometime if I can ever find the answer to why they do that. It's not a new step in their process.  If you buy from a store that's in our state, that step is not part of the process.


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This one I picked up at a NRA auction.  So yes, next time I will buy locally.  This whole process, with silencer central, was not a very good one.  Customer service is definitely not the best.
I'm glad you and others are getting into suppressors. It's unfortunate that their customer service reputation isn't stellar.


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Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Mtnwalker on September 05, 2024, 08:53:17 AM
Wasn't real impressed with my purchase through a local Silencer Shop kiosk dealer either. Next can I'll buy through Dreadi, he took the time to help me when the shop I bought through was giving me the run around, even though he had nothing to gain from it. Solid dude  :tup:
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 05, 2024, 10:51:43 AM
Wasn't real impressed with my purchase through a local Silencer Shop kiosk dealer either. Next can I'll buy through Dreadi, he took the time to help me when the shop I bought through was giving me the run around, even though he had nothing to gain from it. Solid dude  :tup:
Same local shop I used and same nightmare but worse.

 Just submitted another using Dreadi and man what a different experience! Can't speak highly enough of our local huntwa suppressor dude! I'll be purchasing all my suppressors through him going forward even being on the wrong side of the state from me :tup:
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: HillHound on September 05, 2024, 11:56:41 AM
Wasn't real impressed with my purchase through a local Silencer Shop kiosk dealer either. Next can I'll buy through Dreadi, he took the time to help me when the shop I bought through was giving me the run around, even though he had nothing to gain from it. Solid dude  :tup:
Same local shop I used and same nightmare but worse.

 Just submitted another using Dreadi and man what a different experience! Can't speak highly enough of our local huntwa suppressor dude! I'll be purchasing all my suppressors through him going forward even being on the wrong side of the state from me :tup:
Hey Karl hope the deer hunting is going well. You may have to get a lawn chair to set out in the lake to hunt with how hot it’s supposed to be the next couple days. How many trips over the pass  did it require to get your suppressor? 1 to fill out paperwork, etc. and one to pick up? or could you do everything digitally with Dreadi and then just go over to get it when you are cleared?
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: asmith on September 09, 2024, 02:15:23 PM
Just talked with someone at silencer central regarding the 7 day notice to local law enforcement.  He said that because the silencer is be mailed, and not over the counter, that they are required to notify before shipping.

So yes, I will be using a local next time I get one.
Title: Re: Suppressor Background check delayed
Post by: dreadi on September 09, 2024, 05:42:22 PM
Wasn't real impressed with my purchase through a local Silencer Shop kiosk dealer either. Next can I'll buy through Dreadi, he took the time to help me when the shop I bought through was giving me the run around, even though he had nothing to gain from it. Solid dude  :tup:
Same local shop I used and same nightmare but worse.

 Just submitted another using Dreadi and man what a different experience! Can't speak highly enough of our local huntwa suppressor dude! I'll be purchasing all my suppressors through him going forward even being on the wrong side of the state from me :tup:
Hey Karl hope the deer hunting is going well. You may have to get a lawn chair to set out in the lake to hunt with how hot it’s supposed to be the next couple days. How many trips over the pass  did it require to get your suppressor? 1 to fill out paperwork, etc. and one to pick up? or could you do everything digitally with Dreadi and then just go over to get it when you are cleared?
Most everything with me is remote except for pickup. There are a few options for fingerprints including doing them yourself from home, coming to me, or any Silencer Shop dealer with a kiosk.


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