Post by: vandeman17 on February 28, 2024, 09:56:46 AM
Post by: greenhead_killer on February 28, 2024, 10:03:25 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 28, 2024, 06:07:20 PM
Dear license buyer,
Happy new license year! March 1 is the day hunters can start applying for general hunting licenses and permits. The deadline to apply for deer and elk permits is April 1, but don’t wait until the last minute. It’s a good idea to apply early.
Applications for most species – deer, elk, antelope, deer B licenses, elk B licenses, antelope B licenses, moose, sheep, goat, bison, bear, turkey – can be made beginning March 1.
New for this year is that nonresident hunters who hold a Nonresident Combination License may possess a total of two Deer B Licenses. Nonresident hunters who do not hold a Nonresident Combination License may possess a total of one Deer B License.
Also new this year, nonresidents who own at least 2,500 contiguous acres may qualify for priority in drawing a nonresident Big Game or Elk Combination License. More information can be found here: fwp.mt.gov/buyandapply/hunting-licenses/nonresident-licenses/combination-license-priority-pool.
Please note that General Deer Licenses and Deer B Licenses for antlerless mule deer in Regions 6 and 7 are valid only on private land.
You can buy licenses and apply for permits on the FWP website beginning at 5 a.m. on March 1; click on “Buy and Apply.” Most FWP offices will be open from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m., Monday through Friday.
Once you have your licenses and permits, you can use the MyFWP mobile app to hold and display licenses, permits and E-Tags. Once you’ve downloaded these items, you will be able to access them in the field without cell service.
If you do not already have a MyFWP account, you can set one up through the MyFWP login page.
The licensing call center will be open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. from March 1 through April 1; after April 1, the hours will return to 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. The call center can be reached at 406-444-2950.
To watch a video on the permit application process for nonresidents, click here. For more information on Montana hunting licenses and permits, go to fwp.mt.gov/buyandapply/hunting-licenses.
Application deadlines
Paddlefish (white tag) – March 22
Deer and Elk
Special Permits – April 1
Deer B and Elk B Licenses – June 1
Bighorn Sheep – May 1
Bison – May 1
Moose – May 1
Mountain Goat –May 1
Antelope – June 1
SuperTags
Antelope, Bighorn Sheep, Bison, Deer, Elk, Moose, Mountain Goat, and Mountain Lion – June 30
Mountain Lion Special Licenses – July 22
-fwp-
Post by: Magnum_Willys on February 28, 2024, 06:12:38 PM
Post by: 3nails on February 28, 2024, 06:43:43 PM
Also new this year, nonresidents who own at least 2,500 contiguous acres may qualify for priority in drawing a nonresident Big Game or Elk Combination License. More information can be found here: fwp.mt.gov/buyandapply/hunting-licenses/nonresident-licenses/combination-license-priority-pool. Dang! My 4 acres falls just short.
Post by: Antlershed on February 28, 2024, 09:03:32 PM
I don’t own 2500 acres so its points only this year for group then hunt next year. Weird was we had one guy in our group draw with one point and another fail to draw with 2 points. Neither of those should have been possible last year. ???Last year 2 points was only like 84% I believe. However, I agree that nobody with 1 point should have drawn. Are you sure that person actually had a point?
Edit: I guess I’m wrong on all fronts, and the data I heard was not for the deer combo.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 28, 2024, 09:20:41 PM
I don’t own 2500 acres so its points only this year for group then hunt next year. Weird was we had one guy in our group draw with one point and another fail to draw with 2 points. Neither of those should have been possible last year. ???Somebody had to have been mistaken with what they had for points. A 1pt holder cannot draw before a 2pt holder. If true your buddy should have called and gotten his tag.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on February 28, 2024, 09:38:58 PM
Somebody had to have been mistaken with what they had for points. A 1pt holder cannot draw before a 2pt holder. If true your buddy should have called and gotten his tag.That was my thought exactly.
Crazy that one point had 0% chance and 0 points had 60% chance but thats the system. Different buddy with zero points bought a point before the draw 2 years ago - essentially eliminating his chance of drawing.
Post by: huntnnw on February 28, 2024, 10:31:11 PM
Post by: bustedoldman on February 29, 2024, 07:26:25 AM
"Please note that General Deer Licenses and Deer B Licenses for antlerless mule deer in Regions 6 and 7 are valid only on private land."
Post by: Duckslayer89 on February 29, 2024, 07:57:16 AM
What's the interpretation you guys get here? So basically, no is hunting 600/700's?
"Please note that General Deer Licenses and Deer B Licenses for antlerless mule deer in Regions 6 and 7 are valid only on private land."
Only for antlerless on general tag
Post by: jstone on February 29, 2024, 08:11:13 AM
Post by: elkrack on February 29, 2024, 08:45:18 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 29, 2024, 09:21:39 AM
Frankly I can’t believe they havent shut down antlerless harvest yet. I’ve only hunted Montana three times and there has been a dramatic decrease in deer numbers from what I’ve seen :twocents::yeah: STOP SHOOTING MULE DEER DOE'S! Just because the state puts out the tags doesn't mean we should be filling them. You can't expect to grow a herd if your shooting out the baby makers. Grab some whitetail B tags instead :twocents:
Post by: raydog on February 29, 2024, 10:12:54 AM
:yeah:Frankly I can’t believe they havent shut down antlerless harvest yet. I’ve only hunted Montana three times and there has been a dramatic decrease in deer numbers from what I’ve seen :twocents::yeah: STOP SHOOTING MULE DEER DOE'S! Just because the state puts out the tags doesn't mean we should be filling them. You can't expect to grow a herd if your shooting out the baby makers. Grab some whitetail B tags instead :twocents:
That's goes for more than just montana.....
Post by: bugs n bones on February 29, 2024, 04:37:36 PM
my dad told me when I was a kid he would kick my ass if I shot a Mule deer doeFrankly I can’t believe they havent shut down antlerless harvest yet. I’ve only hunted Montana three times and there has been a dramatic decrease in deer numbers from what I’ve seen :twocents::yeah: STOP SHOOTING MULE DEER DOE'S! Just because the state puts out the tags doesn't mean we should be filling them. You can't expect to grow a herd if your shooting out the baby makers. Grab some whitetail B tags instead :twocents:
Post by: dvolmer on February 29, 2024, 04:42:52 PM
Post by: Slamadoo on February 29, 2024, 05:15:05 PM
Post by: Mtnwalker on February 29, 2024, 05:22:23 PM
Totally agree, mule deer doe tags need to be abolished. No need to shoot them. Mule deer number are struggling. I can’t believe the mule deer quotas that Montana maintains. Absolutely no need or reason to hunt Muley doe’s. As far as that goes, Muley doe hunting needs to be abolished nation-wide except in some extreme situations. Washington definitely shouldn’t be harvesting any! If they do need harvesting, they should be left to youth hunts only.
I think they should offer a first deer either sex voucher for youth hunters. Once you’ve tagged a kill, no more does. Also, just speaks to what a deer factory Montana is and how amazing it could be if they’d do away with the insanely generous season dates and durations
Post by: dvolmer on February 29, 2024, 05:30:34 PM
Do you think it has anything to do with CWD and keeping deer numbers lowish?Very small affect in my opinion. Bad winters, predators, reduced habitat , and too many mule deer doe permits are much bigger factors. I’ve hunted Washington, Wyoming, and Montana for many many years and I have never seen a symptom expressing sick deer or signs of lots of carcasses in my years. I’ve seen the devastation one year after a blue-tongue epidemic that was unbelievably devastating. I’m sure CWD kills some but I don’t think it’s a major factor in the area that I hunt mule deer in Montana in unit 401 that is supposed to be a hot-spot for it. The rancher that owns the 11,000 acre ranch that we hunt on has never seen any sick deer or considerable carcasses either.
Post by: Slamadoo on February 29, 2024, 05:43:46 PM
Sorry for confusion.
Post by: SuperX on February 29, 2024, 05:47:43 PM
Post by: CarbonHunter on March 01, 2024, 05:22:23 PM
Somebody had to have been mistaken with what they had for points. A 1pt holder cannot draw before a 2pt holder. If true your buddy should have called and gotten his tag.That was my thought exactly.
Crazy that one point had 0% chance and 0 points had 60% chance but thats the system. Different buddy with zero points bought a point before the draw 2 years ago - essentially eliminating his chance of drawing.
Possibly had 1 bonus point and zero PP’s. It still shows as zero points on the results and they are entitled to 25% of the tags without the PP buyers being included.
Post by: ganghis on March 01, 2024, 10:33:51 PM
Post by: elkrack on March 02, 2024, 08:07:40 AM
I feel like these game agencies are a slow ship turning course. They feel like they can't go from a bunch of doe tags to no tags in a single year - you see the reductions, but they're probably not enough. The problem is, lots of locals will be like 'I used to always get a doe tag and now there are none, wtf?' It goes beyond that, some units were 100% draw for bucks with a resident license but aren't anymore. It all has to do with populations, but not everyone gets that. If I didn't know any better I'd start pointing fingers too.
I’m sure you are 100% correct! But with how easy it is to give and recieve information now days the game department should be able to let hunters know these are temporary moves to let the herds rebound. Unlike Washington where there are purposely destroying the herds. :twocents:
Post by: High Climber on March 02, 2024, 08:38:13 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 02, 2024, 09:18:48 AM
I can’t remember how Montana works. If I have 1 preference point from last year, will I have 2 going into the draw or 1?Only way you'll have two going into the draw is if you buy one when you apply this month.
Post by: High Climber on March 02, 2024, 09:23:35 AM
Post by: Sakko300wsm on March 02, 2024, 09:24:46 AM
Just applied yesterday and bought one
Prices sure seemed like it went up again
Post by: elkrack on March 02, 2024, 12:09:06 PM
You will only have 1 unless you purchase one
Just applied yesterday and bought one
Prices sure seemed like it went up again
These prices make me wanna 🤮
Post by: vandeman17 on March 02, 2024, 02:11:43 PM
Post by: Sakko300wsm on March 02, 2024, 03:18:35 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on March 02, 2024, 03:34:23 PM
Post by: MADMAX on March 02, 2024, 04:19:19 PM
It’s habit forming 😂
Post by: elkrack on March 02, 2024, 06:28:13 PM
Never have hunted MT. No idea where to go, what to apply for, and these costs... maybe one day, maybe not :dunno:
That’s the cool thing about Montana! Pick a spot and go and likely there’s deer around :tup:
Post by: grade-creek-rd on March 04, 2024, 07:51:45 PM
Grade
Post by: dvolmer on March 04, 2024, 09:59:37 PM
To kick the hornets nest on the "don't shoot mule deer does" thinkers...well, in 600 and 700 series units mule deer does can only be killed on private lands, and believe it or not, some land owners don't want deer on their property so killing mule deer does to them makes sense. A "small" ranch is still a few thousand acres and the landowner might not actually own the wild game on their ranch but that doesn't mean they can't use means to get rid of the wild game (deer specifically). Opposite problem with elk as there are too many elk in Montana BUT the areas with too many are mostly private lands (ranches) and those landowner complain about the problem but rarely allow hunters to cull the elk herd (cow B tags)...so back to my swift kick of the hornets nest, if a landowner wants the deer gone then by all means fill that B tag, and hopefully that land owner allows the hunter to fill a elk B tag as well...it's not like the mule deer can simply just move to another parcel of land since it's likely that land is owned by a landowner too (this is eastern MT where its limited...where ranches can exceed 10,000 acres). MTFWP should maybe limit ALL mule deer harvest on public lands in the eastern part of the state to help rebuild the public land herds...we often think of mule deer as a whole group when in reality it is sub-populations we are really talking about.Some good things to think about for sure Grade. One of the big issues is that elk can devastate farm/ranch land. Mule deer, not so much. the footprint of elk is much bigger than mule deer. Elk compete with cattle for food and a herd of elk can really take a toll on a ranchers fields and feeds. Mule deer are browsers and don't compete much with cattle for food. I don't know all of the answers but I would start with states making laws that no rancher can claim damage money from the Game Dept unless they open their lands to public hunters to control the situation in some form or way.
Grade
Post by: huntnphool on March 04, 2024, 11:27:02 PM
To kick the hornets nest on the "don't shoot mule deer does" thinkers...well, in 600 and 700 series units mule deer does can only be killed on private lands, and believe it or not, some land owners don't want deer on their property so killing mule deer does to them makes sense. A "small" ranch is still a few thousand acres and the landowner might not actually own the wild game on their ranch but that doesn't mean they can't use means to get rid of the wild game (deer specifically). Opposite problem with elk as there are too many elk in Montana BUT the areas with too many are mostly private lands (ranches) and those landowner complain about the problem but rarely allow hunters to cull the elk herd (cow B tags)...so back to my swift kick of the hornets nest, if a landowner wants the deer gone then by all means fill that B tag, and hopefully that land owner allows the hunter to fill a elk B tag as well...it's not like the mule deer can simply just move to another parcel of land since it's likely that land is owned by a landowner too (this is eastern MT where its limited...where ranches can exceed 10,000 acres). MTFWP should maybe limit ALL mule deer harvest on public lands in the eastern part of the state to help rebuild the public land herds...we often think of mule deer as a whole group when in reality it is sub-populations we are really talking about.
Grade
I don’t know about 600 units, but I know A LOT of land owners in the 700 units, across the border into Wyoming as well…and don’t know a single one that has any issues with having deer on their land. Pronghorn are another story, but not mulies! :twocents:
YMMV
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 05, 2024, 07:54:52 AM
To kick the hornets nest on the "don't shoot mule deer does" thinkers...well, in 600 and 700 series units mule deer does can only be killed on private lands, and believe it or not, some land owners don't want deer on their property so killing mule deer does to them makes sense. A "small" ranch is still a few thousand acres and the landowner might not actually own the wild game on their ranch but that doesn't mean they can't use means to get rid of the wild game (deer specifically). Opposite problem with elk as there are too many elk in Montana BUT the areas with too many are mostly private lands (ranches) and those landowner complain about the problem but rarely allow hunters to cull the elk herd (cow B tags)...so back to my swift kick of the hornets nest, if a landowner wants the deer gone then by all means fill that B tag, and hopefully that land owner allows the hunter to fill a elk B tag as well...it's not like the mule deer can simply just move to another parcel of land since it's likely that land is owned by a landowner too (this is eastern MT where its limited...where ranches can exceed 10,000 acres). MTFWP should maybe limit ALL mule deer harvest on public lands in the eastern part of the state to help rebuild the public land herds...we often think of mule deer as a whole group when in reality it is sub-populations we are really talking about.your last statement is not accurate. They aren't sub populations. Mule deer as a whole are way down in numbers in every conceivable way. There isn't a single ranch in MT or anywhere else that has as many or more mule deer as it did pre 2010. Full stop.
Grade
Post by: dvolmer on March 05, 2024, 09:22:06 AM
absolutely true statement. Numbers are just about down everywhere!To kick the hornets nest on the "don't shoot mule deer does" thinkers...well, in 600 and 700 series units mule deer does can only be killed on private lands, and believe it or not, some land owners don't want deer on their property so killing mule deer does to them makes sense. A "small" ranch is still a few thousand acres and the landowner might not actually own the wild game on their ranch but that doesn't mean they can't use means to get rid of the wild game (deer specifically). Opposite problem with elk as there are too many elk in Montana BUT the areas with too many are mostly private lands (ranches) and those landowner complain about the problem but rarely allow hunters to cull the elk herd (cow B tags)...so back to my swift kick of the hornets nest, if a landowner wants the deer gone then by all means fill that B tag, and hopefully that land owner allows the hunter to fill a elk B tag as well...it's not like the mule deer can simply just move to another parcel of land since it's likely that land is owned by a landowner too (this is eastern MT where its limited...where ranches can exceed 10,000 acres). MTFWP should maybe limit ALL mule deer harvest on public lands in the eastern part of the state to help rebuild the public land herds...we often think of mule deer as a whole group when in reality it is sub-populations we are really talking about.your last statement is not accurate. They aren't sub populations. Mule deer as a whole are way down in numbers in every conceivable way. There isn't a single ranch in MT or anywhere else that has as many or more mule deer as it did pre 2010. Full stop.
Grade
Post by: jamesfromseattle on March 12, 2024, 05:31:19 PM
Post by: Twispriver on March 13, 2024, 01:41:52 PM
Post by: jstone on March 14, 2024, 09:07:51 AM
Post by: SuperX on March 14, 2024, 10:15:54 AM
You don’t have to buy the archery endorsement till you draw? Yes No
yes Don't buy it until you draw. If you don't draw you get your money back but you don't get your archery endorsement money back.
Post by: vandeman17 on March 15, 2024, 11:13:47 AM
You don’t have to buy the archery endorsement till you draw? Yes No
yes Don't buy it until you draw. If you don't draw you get your money back but you don't get your archery endorsement money back.
Good to know
Post by: CaNINE on March 23, 2024, 06:57:01 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 23, 2024, 07:56:18 PM
With deer numbers down across the state what region would you guys focus on in 2024?
Further East the better with crowds
Post by: 3nails on March 23, 2024, 08:15:42 PM
With deer numbers down across the state what region would you guys focus on in 2024?Deer numbers are not down across the state. Whitetail numbers in the west are increasing again.
Post by: CaNINE on March 23, 2024, 09:16:09 PM
Post by: dvolmer on March 24, 2024, 12:48:43 PM
Yes and No. mule deer numbers are down across the entire state. Whitetail numbers are steady and strong. I hunt with seven or so guys every year in Montana. Ten years ago we were averaging a harvest of about five mule deer and about two whitetails every year. Now it has flipped to five whitetail and two mule deer average. Easier to find mature whitetails and harder to find mature mulies.With deer numbers down across the state what region would you guys focus on in 2024?Deer numbers are not down across the state. Whitetail numbers in the west are increasing again.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 24, 2024, 01:28:21 PM
Post by: go4steelhd on March 24, 2024, 03:35:17 PM
Then as stated above if you look back 5, 10, or 15 years ago it’s gotten progressively worse.But the same can be said for almost every state in the west.
Post by: 2MANY on March 24, 2024, 03:44:35 PM
Build a house in the migration route or winter grounds and harass them year-round!!!
Man is a fool.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 25, 2024, 05:13:46 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 25, 2024, 11:24:00 AM
If man is a fool then woman is?
...Always right. (I'm not so much of a fool to get that one wrong... again... :rolleyes: )
Post by: jstone on March 25, 2024, 12:14:12 PM
I don’t have one of those on the wall
Post by: mburrows on March 25, 2024, 04:43:57 PM
Post by: finnman on March 29, 2024, 08:15:54 PM
I am trying to hunt a new area that I am familiar with but have not hunted.
We drove by it a couple years ago and saw over 100 whitetail in one big pasture.
Note: the area we were hunting in SE Montana……we saw 18 deer in 5 days. So pretty disgusting differences in areas.
I will update if the drawing goes our way….
Post by: Killerhiller40 on March 29, 2024, 09:45:41 PM
sure do miss my $500 OTC non-resident college student combo license right about now
Post by: huntnphool on March 29, 2024, 10:30:52 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on March 30, 2024, 06:31:47 AM
Post by: cem3434 on March 30, 2024, 09:24:48 AM
Post by: go4steelhd on March 31, 2024, 05:21:18 PM
SE numbers and quality are way down…I ate my tag last season.
It’s like that across the majority of eastern Montana. It’s truly sad to see. I know guys are wanting to come over here and deer hunt, but I feel they will be real disappointed. It will take 4 or 5 wet years to bring it back. And if that doesn’t happen I feel non resident draw odds will get real good for deer in the next few years.
My son will be old enough to hunt this fall, so we will put some time in for deer. With it being his first deer I think we will find something to chase after. Finding a nice buck, that would be pretty tough.
I guess it’s an opportunity to be outdoors.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 31, 2024, 05:28:35 PM
SE numbers and quality are way down…I ate my tag last season.
It’s like that across the majority of eastern Montana. It’s truly sad to see. I know guys are wanting to come over here and deer hunt, but I feel they will be real disappointed. It will take 4 or 5 wet years to bring it back. And if that doesn’t happen I feel non resident draw odds will get real good for deer in the next few years.
My son will be old enough to hunt this fall, so we will put some time in for deer. With it being his first deer I think we will find something to chase after. Finding a nice buck, that would be pretty tough.
I guess it’s an opportunity to be outdoors.
I still see a lot of doe tags offer and an either sex general season. Pretty crazy considering the numbers are so low. Do you think it can still build back with the harvest/hunter numbers?
Post by: go4steelhd on March 31, 2024, 06:08:12 PM
SE numbers and quality are way down…I ate my tag last season.
It’s like that across the majority of eastern Montana. It’s truly sad to see. I know guys are wanting to come over here and deer hunt, but I feel they will be real disappointed. It will take 4 or 5 wet years to bring it back. And if that doesn’t happen I feel non resident draw odds will get real good for deer in the next few years.
My son will be old enough to hunt this fall, so we will put some time in for deer. With it being his first deer I think we will find something to chase after. Finding a nice buck, that would be pretty tough.
I guess it’s an opportunity to be outdoors.
I still see a lot of doe tags offer and an either sex general season. Pretty crazy considering the numbers are so low. Do you think it can still build back with the harvest/hunter numbers?
They need to stop all mule deer doe tags.
The biology says that if we have favorable weather creating suitable habitat they come back fairly fast.
I feel age class will lag behind that a bit, and would need a reduction of harvest.
Sadly the few pockets of deer I found last year had lots of pressure, I’m assuming we all were only seeing deer in a few places and that’s where we hunted. Which in turn could create over harvest in those areas.
I feel the areas I hunt have dropped by 20-30% from the previous year since 2019. There has always been ups and downs. This is the first downward spiral I have seen that is this extreme.
I seen the fish and game changed a few units to draw, which will push more people on to the other already struggling units. I am very curious what made them change two or three units to draw but left other units that are equally as bad or worse shape.
Pray for spring, summer, and fall rain!
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on April 01, 2024, 09:52:50 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 01, 2024, 09:54:56 AM
My buddy tried to apply with our group last night (he always likes to do his apps at the end of the application window) and he got an error saying our party already had 5 members and couldn’t apply with us. I sent an email to MT FWP and it turns out there is some random guy that joined our party. I thought the whole point of us having to declare who is apart of the party when you first create the group application is so that only the names you put down can join into the party? Anyone ever had a random person pop up in their group?
Yikes. Did you go in with zero points? Be crazy if he was just piggy backing off you guys and pulling your point average down
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on April 01, 2024, 09:59:06 AM
All but one of us are in with 2pts. Even if he just has 1 pt we should still draw but still seems weird, wonder if he punched in the wrong party app number? Would hate for him not to get taken off our app and draw and then his group not draw and screw up his plans if that’s the case lolMy buddy tried to apply with our group last night (he always likes to do his apps at the end of the application window) and he got an error saying our party already had 5 members and couldn’t apply with us. I sent an email to MT FWP and it turns out there is some random guy that joined our party. I thought the whole point of us having to declare who is apart of the party when you first create the group application is so that only the names you put down can join into the party? Anyone ever had a random person pop up in their group?
Yikes. Did you go in with zero points? Be crazy if he was just piggy backing off you guys and pulling your point average down
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 01, 2024, 10:09:47 AM
this is kinda wild to me. I know they say no app modifications once submitted but this seems like an acceptable reason for them to get in there and move some stuff. Can they not boot him off the app?All but one of us are in with 2pts. Even if he just has 1 pt we should still draw but still seems weird, wonder if he punched in the wrong party app number? Would hate for him not to get taken off our app and draw and then his group not draw and screw up his plans if that’s the case lolMy buddy tried to apply with our group last night (he always likes to do his apps at the end of the application window) and he got an error saying our party already had 5 members and couldn’t apply with us. I sent an email to MT FWP and it turns out there is some random guy that joined our party. I thought the whole point of us having to declare who is apart of the party when you first create the group application is so that only the names you put down can join into the party? Anyone ever had a random person pop up in their group?
Yikes. Did you go in with zero points? Be crazy if he was just piggy backing off you guys and pulling your point average down
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on April 01, 2024, 10:14:09 AM
I emailed them back and asked a few hours ago but no response yet. My buddy that was supposed to be in our group already just submitted his app as an individual with 0 pts because of the mess, didn’t want to miss out on the app because the deadlines today. Seems like it’s be a stretch for us to get it all worked out but who knows! In the screen shot of our party members that the lady sent me it looked like they have the ability to pull people from the party, so hopefully something can happen.this is kinda wild to me. I know they say no app modifications once submitted but this seems like an acceptable reason for them to get in there and move some stuff. Can they not boot him off the app?All but one of us are in with 2pts. Even if he just has 1 pt we should still draw but still seems weird, wonder if he punched in the wrong party app number? Would hate for him not to get taken off our app and draw and then his group not draw and screw up his plans if that’s the case lolMy buddy tried to apply with our group last night (he always likes to do his apps at the end of the application window) and he got an error saying our party already had 5 members and couldn’t apply with us. I sent an email to MT FWP and it turns out there is some random guy that joined our party. I thought the whole point of us having to declare who is apart of the party when you first create the group application is so that only the names you put down can join into the party? Anyone ever had a random person pop up in their group?
Yikes. Did you go in with zero points? Be crazy if he was just piggy backing off you guys and pulling your point average down
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 01, 2024, 10:58:43 AM
Post by: Tbar on April 01, 2024, 12:20:20 PM
Fingers crossed you can get him booted. Should probably see if he has 2 or 3 points first though :chuckle::yeah:
Two points is no mans land in the general draw.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 01, 2024, 12:27:05 PM
opposite. 2pts is guaranteed draw so if the random guy has 2 or more points I say leave him on the app :chuckle:Fingers crossed you can get him booted. Should probably see if he has 2 or 3 points first though :chuckle::yeah:
Two points is no mans land in the general draw.
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on April 01, 2024, 12:34:31 PM
Yeah according to mt FWP 2023 1.2-3 preference points was 100% draw oddsopposite. 2pts is guaranteed draw so if the random guy has 2 or more points I say leave him on the app :chuckle:Fingers crossed you can get him booted. Should probably see if he has 2 or 3 points first though :chuckle::yeah:
Two points is no mans land in the general draw.
Post by: elkrack on April 01, 2024, 01:39:24 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 01, 2024, 01:40:32 PM
Thinking this year I’m going to try and hit the 0 point pool and buy the preference point after the draw for next year. 🤷🏻♂️you can't. You can apply or buy a point in the fall but not both.
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on April 01, 2024, 01:46:33 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 01, 2024, 01:47:39 PM
Just got off the phone with FWP, they booted that guy off our party so our point average didn’t go down but since my buddy didn’t buy a point they can’t add him to our party, wouldn’t let me buy a point for him either since it was already submitted. Bummer deal
If he went in with zero his odds are still pretty good. Hopefully he draws as well
Post by: elkrack on April 01, 2024, 01:54:26 PM
Thinking this year I’m going to try and hit the 0 point pool and buy the preference point after the draw for next year. 🤷🏻♂️you can't. You can apply or buy a point in the fall but not both.
Gotcha :tup:
Post by: dvolmer on April 01, 2024, 07:03:57 PM
Post by: Sakko300wsm on April 02, 2024, 07:32:04 AM
Post by: Fishhunt223 on April 02, 2024, 07:34:59 AM
anybody know the odds this year for the combo with 2pts?
We won’t know the exact odds for this draw until they are posted months from now. But last year it was a little over 80% success rate with 2 points.
Post by: jstone on April 02, 2024, 10:52:19 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on April 02, 2024, 10:55:45 AM
Results around the first week of May?Mid April
Post by: dvolmer on April 02, 2024, 12:45:40 PM
Yep! Mid April (at least that is what their web page says and going off years past). It’s nice to see at least one state with a timely draw and quick draw results. With the technology of today, there should never have to be more than a two week turnaround max.Results around the first week of May?Mid April
Post by: CarbonHunter on April 02, 2024, 06:05:46 PM
Post by: jstone on April 02, 2024, 07:05:57 PM
Post by: bugs n bones on April 02, 2024, 07:09:20 PM
This will probably be my last year for a while. I need to cash in Wyoming and Colorado before I retirex2 on Wyoming
Post by: stonefly on April 02, 2024, 07:45:32 PM
I’m curious how many people who drew last year gave up on preference points and applied this year with 0 points. I wonder how much the odds dropped for the 25% of tags to none preference point appliers is this year.
I’m curious about this also. I drew last year and opted to buy a point while applying this year. Hoping the 0 point strategy is popular this year and I can sneak in with the 1 point.
Post by: CamoDup on April 03, 2024, 07:30:11 AM
Post by: tdot24 on April 03, 2024, 11:25:51 AM
Post by: elkrack on April 03, 2024, 11:31:19 AM
Post by: hoytxl2009 on April 03, 2024, 12:13:43 PM
anybody know the odds this year for the combo with 2pts?
Here the last few years.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 03, 2024, 12:40:54 PM
lol I didn’t buy the point either…. The 1 point no mans land scared everyone off :chuckle:I wouldnt necessarily call it no man's land. As total apps continue to back slide I forsee 0 and 1 being 50/50ish this year. 1 was 40% last year. I would have personally purchased a point. It guarantees you will hunt deer in MT this year or 2025 season. Going in at zero gives you no guarantee. Total apps for deer from 2019-2023:
19'- 12,519
20'- 13,606
21' - 19,484 (thanks covid)
22'- 17,396
23'- 15,929
Post by: CarbonHunter on April 03, 2024, 12:41:26 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 03, 2024, 12:52:43 PM
If so thats better approach than applying with one point.
?????? Or you automatically get a point if not drawn?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 03, 2024, 12:53:46 PM
So you’re saying the amount of zero pointers applying is growing? Well at least we know that there is still 4,250 tags for our group. Better than any Washington special permit odds since I last checked.minimal shift. Like 200 apps between 2022 and 2023 but besides 2021 it hovers right around 4,500 zero point applicants. Montana's new rules on points building is working as intended by flushing top points. Unfortunately they changed how they layout points use but if you do the math there's overall far less applicants with 1.2-3pts in 2022 and 2023.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 03, 2024, 12:55:03 PM
I think you can go in with zero and buy a point in July????none of that is accurate. You do not get a point if unsuccessful unless you pay up front for the point. You cannot purchase a point in the fall if you applied in the spring.
If so thats better approach than applying with one point.
?????? Or you automatically get a point if not drawn?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 03, 2024, 12:55:47 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 03, 2024, 12:56:27 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 03, 2024, 01:09:08 PM
:yeah: Also when you buy a point you get it before the draw.I think you can go in with zero and buy a point in July????none of that is accurate. You do not get a point if unsuccessful unless you pay up front for the point. You cannot purchase a point in the fall if you applied in the spring.
If so thats better approach than applying with one point.
?????? Or you automatically get a point if not drawn?
Post by: CarbonHunter on April 03, 2024, 03:45:57 PM
So you’re saying the amount of zero pointers applying is growing? Well at least we know that there is still 4,250 tags for our group. Better than any Washington special permit odds since I last checked.minimal shift. Like 200 apps between 2022 and 2023 but besides 2021 it hovers right around 4,500 zero point applicants. Montana's new rules on points building is working as intended by flushing top points. Unfortunately they changed how they layout points use but if you do the math there's overall far less applicants with 1.2-3pts in 2022 and 2023.
Maybe for deer the increase was minimal but for the elk combo, where most appear to obtain their deer tag the increase was 22% from 2022 to 2023 according to the post from the Rockslide clip.
If memory serves me right there isn’t any tags set aside for just deer in the 25%, correct?
Post by: vandeman17 on April 03, 2024, 03:48:02 PM
So you’re saying the amount of zero pointers applying is growing? Well at least we know that there is still 4,250 tags for our group. Better than any Washington special permit odds since I last checked.minimal shift. Like 200 apps between 2022 and 2023 but besides 2021 it hovers right around 4,500 zero point applicants. Montana's new rules on points building is working as intended by flushing top points. Unfortunately they changed how they layout points use but if you do the math there's overall far less applicants with 1.2-3pts in 2022 and 2023.
Maybe for deer the increase was minimal but for the elk combo, where most appear to obtain their deer tag the increase was 22% from 2022 to 2023 according to the post from the Rockslide clip.
If memory serves me right there isn’t any tags set aside for just deer in the 25%, correct?
Correct on no tags set aside for deer
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 03, 2024, 03:53:34 PM
I haven't looked at the big game combo numbers. The thread is titled montana deer so I was assuming we were talking about deer combos :dunno:So you’re saying the amount of zero pointers applying is growing? Well at least we know that there is still 4,250 tags for our group. Better than any Washington special permit odds since I last checked.minimal shift. Like 200 apps between 2022 and 2023 but besides 2021 it hovers right around 4,500 zero point applicants. Montana's new rules on points building is working as intended by flushing top points. Unfortunately they changed how they layout points use but if you do the math there's overall far less applicants with 1.2-3pts in 2022 and 2023.
Maybe for deer the increase was minimal but for the elk combo, where most appear to obtain their deer tag the increase was 22% from 2022 to 2023 according to the post from the Rockslide clip.
If memory serves me right there isn’t any tags set aside for just deer in the 25%, correct?
Post by: elkrack on April 03, 2024, 04:24:36 PM
lol I didn’t buy the point either…. The 1 point no mans land scared everyone off :chuckle:I wouldnt necessarily call it no man's land. As total apps continue to back slide I forsee 0 and 1 being 50/50ish this year. 1 was 40% last year. I would have personally purchased a point. It guarantees you will hunt deer in MT this year or 2025 season. Going in at zero gives you no guarantee. Total apps for deer from 2019-2023:
19'- 12,519
20'- 13,606
21' - 19,484 (thanks covid)
22'- 17,396
23'- 15,929
I guess I misunderstood Randy newberg break down🤦🏻♂️ :bash:
Post by: CarbonHunter on April 03, 2024, 04:26:19 PM
I haven't looked at the big game combo numbers. The thread is titled montana deer so I was assuming we were talking about deer combos :dunno:So you’re saying the amount of zero pointers applying is growing? Well at least we know that there is still 4,250 tags for our group. Better than any Washington special permit odds since I last checked.minimal shift. Like 200 apps between 2022 and 2023 but besides 2021 it hovers right around 4,500 zero point applicants. Montana's new rules on points building is working as intended by flushing top points. Unfortunately they changed how they layout points use but if you do the math there's overall far less applicants with 1.2-3pts in 2022 and 2023.
Maybe for deer the increase was minimal but for the elk combo, where most appear to obtain their deer tag the increase was 22% from 2022 to 2023 according to the post from the Rockslide clip.
If memory serves me right there isn’t any tags set aside for just deer in the 25%, correct?
You’re all good. I was just going back and forth a few times trying to figure out why the numbers didn’t match between the 2 post but then I realized the difference.
The interesting thing about the preference point pool that is an unknown each year is how many people bought a point without applying in the previous year. Those people would just show up with 2 points in the next years drawing so even if you buy the point you can’t use the current years number of 1 point applicants to determine how many 2 points will be in the next years drawing. As I understand it.
Post by: JWBINX on April 03, 2024, 07:51:10 PM
I think you can go in with zero and buy a point in July????none of that is accurate. You do not get a point if unsuccessful unless you pay up front for the point. You cannot purchase a point in the fall if you applied in the spring.
If so thats better approach than applying with one point.
?????? Or you automatically get a point if not drawn?
Karl is absolutely correct!
Thanks Karl.
Post by: idaho guy on April 04, 2024, 08:03:34 PM
Post by: jeffitz on April 06, 2024, 02:33:29 PM
Post by: Torrent50 on April 06, 2024, 06:54:40 PM
MT draw results out soon ?
My guess is on the 15th. But that is purely a guess based on absolutely zero scientific or non-scientific evidence.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 06, 2024, 08:45:58 PM
Post by: DWAT on April 06, 2024, 10:37:21 PM
Post by: KNOPHISH on April 11, 2024, 08:59:29 AM
Post by: jstone on April 11, 2024, 09:06:53 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 11, 2024, 09:07:01 AM
DNRY I’m checking daily nowyou're a week early :chuckle:
Post by: Wingin it on April 11, 2024, 02:03:36 PM
Post by: Sakko300wsm on April 14, 2024, 09:40:24 AM
MT draw results out soon ?
My guess is on the 15th. But that is purely a guess based on absolutely zero scientific or non-scientific evidence.
Yep hopefully tomorrow
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 14, 2024, 10:53:57 AM
Post by: jstone on April 14, 2024, 11:53:03 AM
Good Luck
Post by: dvolmer on April 14, 2024, 01:55:13 PM
Wednesday at 10:02 a.m. You can take that to the bank boys!I Don't know about that Karl! My inside intel is telling me it wont be until 10:04 am Wednesday!
Post by: Sakko300wsm on April 15, 2024, 08:36:28 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 15, 2024, 08:39:41 AM
Post by: Sakko300wsm on April 15, 2024, 08:42:14 AM
Post by: washingtonmuley on April 15, 2024, 08:42:33 AM
Post by: Sakko300wsm on April 15, 2024, 08:43:25 AM
I am not seeing it. Mine still says pending.
should change shortly
Post by: Antlershed on April 15, 2024, 08:47:37 AM
Post by: KNOPHISH on April 15, 2024, 08:50:05 AM
Post by: washingtonmuley on April 15, 2024, 08:51:19 AM
Post by: Sakko300wsm on April 15, 2024, 08:51:31 AM
Same here, I thought it might be on my end but if it’s happening to others they may be doing it today.
it is today - I was able to see my results before it went down
Post by: high_hunter on April 15, 2024, 08:51:50 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 09:07:37 AM
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on April 15, 2024, 09:09:41 AM
They are out. If you have etags your tag will be in the app
I second this, website down. E tag shows in app. Got deer! 1 point.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 09:18:06 AM
https://ols.fwp.mt.gov/
Post by: 300rum on April 15, 2024, 09:19:48 AM
Post by: KNOPHISH on April 15, 2024, 09:32:06 AM
You can log in like you are gonna purchase something and look at your active licenses as a work around for the draw results page fyi.
https://ols.fwp.mt.gov/
If this works looks like we drew the combo. I love Montana.
Post by: spoonman on April 15, 2024, 09:33:19 AM
Post by: blackymaster20 on April 15, 2024, 09:37:18 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 15, 2024, 09:38:34 AM
They are out. If you have etags your tag will be in the app
I second this, website down. E tag shows in app. Got deer! 1 point.
Drawn with 1 point, nice
Post by: tdot24 on April 15, 2024, 09:38:59 AM
Post by: huntandjeep on April 15, 2024, 09:41:41 AM
What if u didn’t do etags? Can u still see on the app?Nope . Just checked we crashed the site
Post by: dvolmer on April 15, 2024, 09:42:25 AM
Post by: dvolmer on April 15, 2024, 09:45:02 AM
First drawing looks to be done but i'm not sure if the second drawing has happened yet for those who turn back tags if no special permit isn't drawn. Not sure it is all over yet folks.Quite a few guys got tags last year on the second drawing. The draw results link hasn't crashed, it is just shut down by Fish and Game until all the drawings are completed.
Post by: vandeman17 on April 15, 2024, 10:02:16 AM
Post by: Antlershed on April 15, 2024, 10:07:09 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on April 15, 2024, 10:23:55 AM
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on April 15, 2024, 10:54:29 AM
Post by: elkrack on April 15, 2024, 11:06:59 AM
Post by: bugs n bones on April 15, 2024, 11:12:06 AM
Post by: JakeLand on April 15, 2024, 11:29:26 AM
Post by: fowl smacker on April 15, 2024, 11:32:07 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 11:33:41 AM
So does this mean I drew or does deer combo just show up still because that's what I purchased?you drew. You can't possess a deer combo as an active license unless you were successful in drawing one
Post by: Torrent50 on April 15, 2024, 11:34:01 AM
So does this mean I drew or does deer combo just show up still because that's what I purchased?
Pretty sure you drew. The deer combo doesn't show up on mine.
Post by: Sakko300wsm on April 15, 2024, 11:34:18 AM
So does this mean I drew or does deer combo just show up still because that's what I purchased?
Yep you drew
Post by: mossback91 on April 15, 2024, 11:37:31 AM
I was checking the 'currently held licenses' and nothing was showing for me. Logged in again 10 minutes ago and Deer Combo is there now...so don't give up hope if you checked earlier today.
:yeah:
Mine just showed up as drawn
Post by: Dirtnap on April 15, 2024, 11:38:45 AM
Post by: jstone on April 15, 2024, 11:43:17 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 11:48:21 AM
2 points and not drawn for comboon the official page or active license?
Post by: vandeman17 on April 15, 2024, 11:52:49 AM
2 points and not drawn for combo
yikes
Post by: tdot24 on April 15, 2024, 11:55:27 AM
Post by: jstone on April 15, 2024, 11:56:22 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 12:04:11 PM
Activeas others have pointed out, draw isn't over so have faith. Odds are better you draw than don't draw.
Post by: fowl smacker on April 15, 2024, 12:55:31 PM
Sweet!So does this mean I drew or does deer combo just show up still because that's what I purchased?
Yep you drew
Post by: washingtonmuley on April 15, 2024, 01:23:47 PM
Post by: jstone on April 15, 2024, 01:35:12 PM
Post by: jstone on April 15, 2024, 01:37:24 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 01:41:20 PM
Active said I drew.!!I told you to keep the faith :chuckle: congrats sir :IBCOOL:
Post by: jamesjett on April 15, 2024, 01:42:52 PM
If you can’t get in, login to buy a new license and check it that way..
Post by: washingtonmuley on April 15, 2024, 01:44:54 PM
I get the white screen when trying to log on… Decided to see if I could login to buy a new license and there is a tab to see your currently held 2024 licenses. Shows I already hold a Deer Combo! Party app 1.5 points.I can get in that way but not seeing the currently held tab.
If you can’t get in, login to buy a new license and check it that way..
Post by: jamesjett on April 15, 2024, 01:48:26 PM
I get the white screen when trying to log on… Decided to see if I could login to buy a new license and there is a tab to see your currently held 2024 licenses. Shows I already hold a Deer Combo! Party app 1.5 points.I can get in that way but not seeing the currently held tab.
If you can’t get in, login to buy a new license and check it that way..
It’s at the very bottom below the ‘Continue’, ‘Reset’, and ‘Start Over’ tabs
Post by: washingtonmuley on April 15, 2024, 01:52:07 PM
Post by: jamesjett on April 15, 2024, 01:54:22 PM
I found it and it appears I was successful for deer combo. Thanks
Post by: dvolmer on April 15, 2024, 02:31:03 PM
Post by: KNOPHISH on April 15, 2024, 02:41:32 PM
Post by: stonefly on April 15, 2024, 02:42:57 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 15, 2024, 02:44:28 PM
Has anyone drawn a limited entry deer or elk permit and have it show up in the "items held" (back door)? I wonder if they have done the special permit drawings yet. If not, then the second draw hasn't happened yet. Second draw is for all of the general tags that were drawn but then declined when you applied if you didn't draw your special permit. Im not sure that all of the drawings are over yet still.
When we drew two years ago, the permits showed later. I don't remember how much later but I think it was a few days
Post by: high_hunter on April 15, 2024, 02:52:28 PM
Our party of 3 was successful. :IBCOOL:
Post by: dvolmer on April 15, 2024, 02:56:10 PM
Post by: Dirtnap on April 15, 2024, 03:04:17 PM
Post by: spencerrickel on April 15, 2024, 03:08:57 PM
Post by: JWBINX on April 15, 2024, 03:11:28 PM
Post by: dvolmer on April 15, 2024, 03:16:48 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 03:23:36 PM
Well I didn’t draw big game combo. How soon does that get returned to my cc?unless it's changed it comes back as a check not a refund on your card
Post by: steelhead59 on April 15, 2024, 03:59:10 PM
Post by: Brushbuster on April 15, 2024, 04:07:24 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on April 15, 2024, 04:10:28 PM
Post by: DeerSkin on April 15, 2024, 04:22:40 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 15, 2024, 04:28:06 PM
3pts and not successful for me.
:yike:
Post by: bugs n bones on April 15, 2024, 04:34:39 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 04:39:03 PM
3pts and not successful for me.3pts is mandatory draw. It's impossible not to draw out at 3. I'd be calling fish and game to get my tag.
Post by: Sakko300wsm on April 15, 2024, 04:42:03 PM
3pts and not successful for me.3pts is mandatory draw. It's impossible not to draw out at 3. I'd be calling fish and game to get my tag.
That’s what I was think! Never heard of such a thing
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 15, 2024, 04:42:42 PM
3pts and not successful for me.3 preference points for a combo license? Or 3 bonus points for a permit with combo return if unsuccessful?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 04:45:00 PM
because it's not. 1 can not draw before 2, and 2 cannot draw before 3. And everyone with 3 automatically draw.3pts and not successful for me.3pts is mandatory draw. It's impossible not to draw out at 3. I'd be calling fish and game to get my tag.
That’s what I was think! Never heard of such a thing
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 04:48:05 PM
Post by: jamesjett on April 15, 2024, 04:50:06 PM
3pts and not successful for me.
3 Preference points or Bonus points?
Post by: Sakko300wsm on April 15, 2024, 04:51:41 PM
because it's not. 1 can not draw before 2, and 2 cannot draw before 3. And everyone with 3 automatically draw.3pts and not successful for me.3pts is mandatory draw. It's impossible not to draw out at 3. I'd be calling fish and game to get my tag.
That’s what I was think! Never heard of such a thing
But zeros before 1 - crazy chit! Yes 3 is auto
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 15, 2024, 04:54:20 PM
the zeros are a different pool and different draw though.because it's not. 1 can not draw before 2, and 2 cannot draw before 3. And everyone with 3 automatically draw.3pts and not successful for me.3pts is mandatory draw. It's impossible not to draw out at 3. I'd be calling fish and game to get my tag.
That’s what I was think! Never heard of such a thing
But zeros before 1 - crazy chit! Yes 3 is auto
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on April 15, 2024, 05:14:49 PM
“75% of licenses go to hunters with the highest number of preference points. The remaining 25% are randomly selected”
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 05:16:39 PM
My understanding was, and after some searches online:the 25% pool is for zero point applicants at random. If you go into the draw with 1 or more points you are not eligible for tags in the 25% pool.
“75% of licenses go to hunters with the highest number of preference points. The remaining 25% are randomly selected”
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on April 15, 2024, 05:19:42 PM
My understanding was, and after some searches online:the 25% pool is for zero point applicants at random. If you go into the draw with 1 or more points you are not eligible for tags in the 25% pool.
“75% of licenses go to hunters with the highest number of preference points. The remaining 25% are randomly selected”
Ahh gotch ya. Interesting.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 15, 2024, 05:52:04 PM
Post by: DeerSkin on April 15, 2024, 06:14:23 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 06:19:50 PM
Yes 3 preference points... deer elk combo I applied and bought a preference point in 2022 bought the the preference point in 2023 and applied and bought the preference point 2024call and get your tag then.
Post by: hoytxl2009 on April 15, 2024, 06:21:11 PM
Post by: DeerSkin on April 15, 2024, 06:29:10 PM
Post by: hoytxl2009 on April 15, 2024, 06:30:16 PM
Maybe I’m just confused..
You were successful.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 06:32:38 PM
:yeah: congratulations :IBCOOL:Maybe I’m just confused..
You were successful.
Post by: DeerSkin on April 15, 2024, 06:35:15 PM
Post by: hoytxl2009 on April 15, 2024, 06:40:08 PM
I guess I’m just not sure why it says both successful and unsuccessful.
They just lay it out weird. Everything under successful is what you drew. Everything under unsuccessful is just that. Anything under pending are application that havnt been drawn yet.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 15, 2024, 06:43:25 PM
I guess I’m just not sure why it says both successful and unsuccessful.it's because there can be multiple licenses drawn for ie limited entry permits, combo licenses, and antlerless B tags. So there is a section for unsuccessful draws as well as successful draws.
Post by: big wood on April 15, 2024, 06:48:13 PM
Post by: Sakko300wsm on April 15, 2024, 07:06:24 PM
Post by: bigfish51 on April 15, 2024, 07:46:56 PM
Yes 3 preference points... deer elk combo I applied and bought a preference point in 2022 bought the the preference point in 2023 and applied and bought the preference point 2024
Once you have a point banked (your 2022 application and point bought), you have to apply for your hunt in the following year (and buy point), otherwise, your banked points are lost. So, by just buying a point in 2023, your points were lost (assuming the explanation I received from MT F&G last year was correct). You would have had just the 1 point in the 2024 drawing, which is not a guaranteed draw. Sucks for sure that it is a bit confusing this way! I would still call F&G and see if that is correct.
Post by: spookgus on April 15, 2024, 08:11:07 PM
Congratulations, tough draw especially with the non res. 10% max on permit quotas. I’ve probably applied for that as much as you. My son drew it on his first attempt when he was 12 years old.
Post by: DeerSkin on April 15, 2024, 08:14:04 PM
Thanks for the update, turns out i was successful drawing after all :chuckle: I was confused by the way MFG posts the results.Yes 3 preference points... deer elk combo I applied and bought a preference point in 2022 bought the the preference point in 2023 and applied and bought the preference point 2024
Once you have a point banked (your 2022 application and point bought), you have to apply for your hunt in the following year (and buy point), otherwise, your banked points are lost. So, by just buying a point in 2023, your points were lost (assuming the explanation I received from MT F&G last year was correct). You would have had just the 1 point in the 2024 drawing, which is not a guaranteed draw. Sucks for sure that it is a bit confusing this way! I would still call F&G and see if that is correct.
Post by: deerlick on April 15, 2024, 10:04:22 PM
Post by: dvolmer on April 15, 2024, 11:16:00 PM
Tried the zero point route this year and it didn't work out. Guessing the zero point odds weren't as great as last year by the amount of people I know who didn't draw.I would agree! One out of seven for us.
Post by: CamoDup on April 16, 2024, 07:29:10 AM
Post by: Wingin it on April 16, 2024, 07:53:41 AM
Post by: hoytxl2009 on April 16, 2024, 08:03:34 AM
Post by: Ryans71 on April 17, 2024, 11:37:08 AM
Wasn't expecting that.
Post by: Tbob on April 17, 2024, 08:06:17 PM
Post by: baker5150 on April 19, 2024, 09:19:14 AM
I never put in for B tags in the past, but put my nephew in for them this year.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 19, 2024, 09:43:59 AM
Is there a second draw for the Deer B tags?Separate drawing later on. The deadline for B tag apps is june 1.
I never put in for B tags in the past, but put my nephew in for them this year.
Post by: baker5150 on April 19, 2024, 11:54:45 AM
Is there a second draw for the Deer B tags?Separate drawing later on. The deadline for B tag apps is june 1.
I never put in for B tags in the past, but put my nephew in for them this year.
Thanks
Post by: jstone on April 24, 2024, 04:33:53 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 25, 2024, 09:37:10 AM
When do we get our tags in the mail6 weeks ish
Post by: jstone on April 28, 2024, 05:06:08 PM
Post by: jstone on May 11, 2024, 08:37:35 PM
Post by: fowl smacker on May 11, 2024, 09:23:12 PM
Got my tags today.!!!!Me too
Post by: JWBINX on May 12, 2024, 06:19:17 AM
Got my tags today.!!!!Me too
Me Three.
Post by: big wood on May 12, 2024, 06:38:59 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 12, 2024, 08:37:03 PM
Got my tags but special permit wasn't with themI believe it should specify your special permit on your tag. When you draw a limited entry permit your tag is only good for that hunt and unit. No general privileges.
Post by: buglebuster on May 12, 2024, 09:25:28 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 12, 2024, 09:57:23 PM
All you guys getting your tags…. I got my refund check 🤦♂️sucks to suck sir :chuckle:
Post by: washingtonmuley on May 13, 2024, 08:32:48 AM
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Post by: bugs n bones on May 13, 2024, 05:30:58 PM
Post by: big wood on May 21, 2024, 09:09:54 PM
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Post by: Wingin it on June 25, 2024, 10:58:10 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on June 26, 2024, 08:45:10 AM
Post by: jstone on June 26, 2024, 10:56:00 AM
Anaconda area