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Title: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Turkeyman on June 13, 2009, 02:22:24 PM
Observetory archery- Need advice
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: ICEMAN on June 13, 2009, 02:31:29 PM
Aim.
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: bobcat on June 13, 2009, 02:52:15 PM
I think I'd try to concentrate on the Umtanum unit since the Manastash has a general season at the same time as your permit, and the Umtanum doesn't.
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: huntingnut on June 13, 2009, 03:47:22 PM
PM sent.
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: 270Shooter on June 13, 2009, 03:48:27 PM
Find the elk 8).
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Turkeyman on June 13, 2009, 04:03:07 PM
We will find elk. And i hope i remember to aim. Those people that replied thanks. If we get good video footage for our dvd Titan outdoors i will make sure you get one. THANKS
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: caseyv21 on June 13, 2009, 07:38:23 PM
focus on the wenas side
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: furbearer365 on June 13, 2009, 10:54:39 PM
Seems to me that someone "good" enough to make his own video should be good enough to find his own elk and kill one.  Not good advertising for a video when someone else puts you on the animals. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: hornhunter on June 14, 2009, 10:08:09 AM
Seems to me that someone "good" enough to make his own video should be good enough to find his own elk and kill one.  Not good advertising for a video when someone else puts you on the animals. :chuckle:

Im sure Turkeyman can and will find his own Elk.  You must have tag envy there furbearer? 
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Turkeyman on June 14, 2009, 12:59:53 PM
 :sas: :sas:
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: coachcw on June 17, 2009, 05:18:32 PM
Try all the north slopes 3/4 to top . these elk will get bumped . years ago we found elk in july and they stayed put . Some one has been bumping them lately in 340 right before the season . i'm not pointing and fingers but choppers come to mind. Jim horn uses a early calling approch that i've used and works well its worth listening to. dont be afraid to call if you bust a bull theres more. Hunt hard and make your own luck. corey. Good luck I have that tag as well.
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Turkeyman on June 17, 2009, 08:57:52 PM
Thanks for the advice Cory. We will hunt hard i will be up there the entire season. Might run into you. Good luck. Top pin baby.
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Dipsnort on June 18, 2009, 09:10:08 AM
Try all the north slopes 3/4 to top . these elk will get bumped . years ago we found elk in july and they stayed put . Some one has been bumping them lately in 340 right before the season . i'm not pointing and fingers but choppers come to mind.
I know the choppers of which you speak.  The last time I hunted the Bethel unit (many years ago) these same folks with their chopper spent some time scaring animals from the hunting zone to the feeding range so they would be safe.  I was more than a little peeved by that BS. >:(
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: TheHunt on June 18, 2009, 12:26:15 PM
Anyone know who is doing that?  It is illegal
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: zackmioli on June 19, 2009, 08:35:35 AM
Anyone know who is doing that?  It is illegal
+1
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Dipsnort on June 19, 2009, 11:14:57 AM
Conventional wisdom is that WDFW runs the chopper.  Please correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Gamblin Guy on June 19, 2009, 02:49:04 PM
I've hunted the 340 unit for 20+ years, shoot me a pm and i'll see what i can do.

As for the helicopters, the "conventional wisdom" is repeated year after year but i've never seen them.  In years past i've spent a good deal of my summers in that unit scouting (kids and baseball have cut into that lately) and never saw any helicopters chasing elk.  More recently it is quads running into every canyon and on every trail, i find quad tracks well away from the roads they are supposed to be riding on every year.  Some of those guys even come back during the archery season to continue their illegal ways.  

I've also seen and talked to people riding horses who were "scouting" for rifle season during archery season.  Their scouting consisted of starting at the top of the canyons in three groups, one on each ridge top and the third dropping into the bottom and "scouting" until they have pushed the entire canyon.

The only helicopter i've ever seen was 3 or 4 years ago when we had an unusually wet August and September and the helitac fire crews were assigned as thinning crews.  The pilots get 2 hours of training a month and they happened to be flying around about a week before the season.  I went down and talked with them for quite a while, he never saw any elk while he was flying, it was mid day about 80 and the elk were in the timber.

Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Gringo31 on June 19, 2009, 05:57:06 PM
While I too have drawn that tag, I can't say about that particular area but have seen helicopters chasing elk the day before elk rifle season in Elk Heights.  No question, they were pushing them on to the elk foundation land.
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: coachcw on June 19, 2009, 10:17:12 PM
no doubt that guys run all over that country and don't seem to know what wind is.I've seen these elk get bumped and are back in a couple of days. a couple of years back there was a huge herd near tamerak two weeks before the season , many collerd elk in the bunch . the next week they where all over the area . it probibly made for better hunting , but still they where broke up. a guy said he saw a white chopper flying low . in the area , maybe a local guy , but I doubt it. I quit working real hard scouting the area , just hunt hard during the season and try to cover the honey holes.good luck .coach.
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: huntinfool2007 on July 08, 2009, 11:00:20 PM
you can get all the info in the world and youll still miss haha
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: SHANE(WA) on July 08, 2009, 11:06:06 PM
this happens in huckleberry unit, indians not wanting "their" elk killed
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Titan-1 on July 09, 2009, 05:33:41 PM
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Seems to me that someone "good" enough to make his own video should be good enough to find his own elk and kill one.  Not good advertising for a video when someone else puts you on the animals. :chuckle:
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Just because someone makes a DVD doesn't mean they think there that "good" or better than anyone else. Far from it in fact, I do it for the pure love of the sport & the outdoors. I enjoy sharing our hunting experiences with others & learn something new from just about every one I go hunting with. Any of us are "good" enough to produce a DVD, Just takes a little dedication is all. If you looked into it, MOST (not all) of the big name hunting productions are on private ranches, "guided" hunts & NOT IN WASHINGTON STATE... So don't worry, just because we produce a DVD doesn't mean we think we are to "good" to ask for a little advise on a draw tag in an area we have never hunted before, we dont do it that often. Sorry if it put you out. Hope you have a great season and I wish you all the best.

Chris
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: billythekidrock on July 09, 2009, 06:55:00 PM
Well said Chris.
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on July 09, 2009, 07:08:33 PM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: dave on July 09, 2009, 07:40:04 PM
follow the sound of two bird humping, past the rock of disappointment, to the town you call home, and hang your tag on the wall proudly. there are no elk in 340-342. ;) :chuckle:
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Titan-1 on July 09, 2009, 07:46:56 PM
follow the sound of two bird humping, past the rock of disappointment, to the town you call home, and hang your tag on the wall proudly. there are no elk in 340-342. ;) :chuckle:
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NO ELK?  :bash:  :chuckle: Glad you filled me in, now I don't even have to bother going  :chuckle: . How much do you think it will cost to mount my tag?  :lol4: I have a good spot on the wall picked out for it  :chuckle:  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 09, 2009, 08:06:50 PM
I would hunt around the wenas area.  I know a group of rifle hunters that hunt that area and they do fairly well every year.  I went with them for a few days just to hang out and help with any animals.  I think we camped and hunted by Jones canyon and watering trough canyon.  Keep up the good work and good luck with the tags guys. 
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Titan-1 on July 09, 2009, 08:15:35 PM
I would hunt around the wenas area.  I know a group of rifle hunters that hunt that area and they do fairly well every year.  I went with them for a few days just to hang out and help with any animals.  I think we camped and hunted by Jones canyon and watering trough canyon.  Keep up the good work and good luck with the tags guys. 
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Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: dave on July 11, 2009, 09:16:38 PM
I've hunted the 340 unit for 20+ years, shoot me a pm and i'll see what i can do.

As for the helicopters, the "conventional wisdom" is repeated year after year but i've never seen them.  In years past i've spent a good deal of my summers in that unit scouting (kids and baseball have cut into that lately) and never saw any helicopters chasing elk.  More recently it is quads running into every canyon and on every trail, i find quad tracks well away from the roads they are supposed to be riding on every year.  Some of those guys even come back during the archery season to continue their illegal ways.  

I've also seen and talked to people riding horses who were "scouting" for rifle season during archery season.  Their scouting consisted of starting at the top of the canyons in three groups, one on each ridge top and the third dropping into the bottom and "scouting" until they have pushed the entire canyon.

The only helicopter i've ever seen was 3 or 4 years ago when we had an unusually wet August and September and the helitac fire crews were assigned as thinning crews.  The pilots get 2 hours of training a month and they happened to be flying around about a week before the season.  I went down and talked with them for quite a while, he never saw any elk while he was flying, it was mid day about 80 and the elk were in the timber.


  the quads are everywere but it doesn't seem to bother the elk, I have been hunting, had a bike scream buy me, i got pissed off stood up and stomped off only to kick up two small bulls and 1/2 dozen cows bedded down 200yards away. the elk are used to it.
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Gamblin Guy on July 11, 2009, 09:38:05 PM
But when they are too lazy to turn off the quad and get off of it to shoot at a deer, it gets a little ridiculous dont ya think?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: dave on July 11, 2009, 09:51:05 PM
But when they are too lazy to turn off the quad and get off of it to shoot at a deer, it gets a little ridiculous dont ya think?   :dunno:
       touche, I hate lazy people that wine like little girls that all the animals are gone.
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: wildbill100 on July 14, 2009, 11:19:46 AM
look at the indians there blamed for every thing else
Title: Re: Observetory archery tag- Need advice
Post by: Yak-NDN on July 14, 2009, 11:55:15 AM
look at the indians there blamed for every thing else
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