Post by: LDennis24 on April 07, 2024, 10:50:10 AM
I saw another story about this guy supposedly running over the wolf and basically crippling it to catch it. This guy is a complete loser and deserves to have his hunting and fishing rights taken away.
Post by: zwickeyman on April 07, 2024, 10:53:08 AM
Post by: LDennis24 on April 07, 2024, 11:00:48 AM
Post by: CarbonHunter on April 07, 2024, 11:15:51 AM
Post by: ghosthunter on April 07, 2024, 11:35:18 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on April 07, 2024, 11:56:18 AM
Post by: MADMAX on April 07, 2024, 11:57:12 AM
Post by: Gobble on April 07, 2024, 12:15:48 PM
Post by: go4steelhd on April 07, 2024, 12:42:57 PM
It sounds more like he held it captive before killing it. Either way it doesn’t seem right. And I hate seeing stuff like this. It adds fuel to the fire for the anti’s.
Post by: zwickeyman on April 07, 2024, 12:45:14 PM
As much as I disagree with this guy, we shouldn’t be sharing it or posting to give the antis more ammunition, the sooner it goes away the better it will be for the hunting community
:yeah: Very good point
Post by: chukardogs on April 07, 2024, 01:51:32 PM
I don't care what the animal is, if you're going to kill it, do it as quick and humanely as possible.
Post by: CarbonHunter on April 07, 2024, 01:57:15 PM
No, don't be quiet. The louder the hunting community is about how messed up this is the better. The fact that it's already out there and people have seen it means there's no sweeping something like this under the rug. It's not going away so the public needs to hear and read that this kind of behavior makes hunters sick and there's no place for it in the world of hunting. The hunting community should be calling for the offending individual to lose their hunting privileges for the rest of their life, period! The loudest and most fervent voices should be hunters!!!!
I don't care what the animal is, if you're going to kill it, do it as quick and humanely as possible.
This is a good opportunity for the hunting community to stand tall and lead the voice before the anti’s have a chance to label all hunters as evil.
Post by: Dan-o on April 07, 2024, 02:07:53 PM
Something is wrong with that guy.
Post by: chukardogs on April 07, 2024, 02:08:46 PM
Post by: Special T on April 07, 2024, 04:22:03 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 07, 2024, 05:49:01 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 07, 2024, 06:35:10 PM
No, don't be quiet. The louder the hunting community is about how messed up this is the better. The fact that it's already out there and people have seen it means there's no sweeping something like this under the rug. It's not going away so the public needs to hear and read that this kind of behavior makes hunters sick and there's no place for it in the world of hunting. The hunting community should be calling for the offending individual to lose their hunting privileges for the rest of their life, period! The loudest and most fervent voices should be hunters!!!!
I don't care what the animal is, if you're going to kill it, do it as quick and humanely as possible.
This is where I’m at.
I saw this on social media this morning. Looked through lots and lots of posts. Didn’t see any from the hunting community slamming this guy. That was disappointing. This guy is a dirtbag POS. He deserves to be shamed and ridiculed everywhere.
Post by: bornhunter on April 07, 2024, 09:25:09 PM
Post by: huntnphool on April 07, 2024, 09:38:59 PM
I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on April 07, 2024, 10:03:46 PM
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
Too late for that. It's already out there on social media. you aren't going to make this go away by nuking this thread. The best that we can do is show that hunters are against this sort of crap. And point out he wasn't hunting. He ran it down with a snow machine. Then incapacitated it. That has nothing to do with hunting. This is more about misusing ATVs and snow machines than it is about hunting.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 07, 2024, 10:06:49 PM
Post by: Humptulips on April 07, 2024, 11:08:41 PM
Post by: storyteller on April 07, 2024, 11:39:52 PM
Post by: chukardogs on April 08, 2024, 05:31:35 AM
And before anyone challenges the idea that an anti-hunter can't change their mind, my point is, it isn't going to happen by anything a hunter says or does. People that can't understand something as simple as, man is, will be and has been a hunter since they first put feet on the ground, isn't going to listen to a hunting story and all of a sudden go, "oh', now I get it." It's possible that some night their ancient ancestors may come to them in a dream and they'll wake up understanding, they wouldn't be here if not for hunting but don't hold your breath. That's a big leap for small minds.
Anti-hunters aren't worth the effort. Man is only given so many hours, days and years on this earth. Don't waste it! Put your time into something attainable and take a non-hunter with you on your next adventure.
I too, looked at the picture of the individual with the wolf and thought, huh, that doesn't look quite right but, if it's proven that the story happened as it's been portrayed, put the puke in jail and toss the key. The individual isn't fit to be free.
Post by: chukardogs on April 08, 2024, 05:51:17 AM
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/04/06/rod-miller-of-wolves-and-*censored*s/
Post by: boneaddict on April 08, 2024, 06:05:21 AM
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.:yeah:
I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
I wasn’t even going to post. I didn’t want to perpetuate this. But, this says exactly what I was thinking.
Post by: jackelope on April 08, 2024, 06:39:52 AM
“This guy sucks. He’s a piece of crap!!”
Or.
Hunting community:
“ ……. “
Which comes across better?
Post by: elkboy on April 08, 2024, 06:55:55 AM
Post by: LDennis24 on April 08, 2024, 07:07:12 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on April 08, 2024, 07:38:32 AM
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.This isn't just about how hunters message/seek credit with anti-hunters and non-hunters. :twocents:
I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
Post by: Sandberm on April 08, 2024, 07:59:18 AM
It's important for the hunting community to strongly condemn this sort of depravity, and it has nothing to do with the antihunting crowd. It is correct that nothing we do will sway those people. It is the broad mass of non-hunters we need to reach with a message that we are conservationists, that we care about the broad spectrum of wildlife, that we have ethics. That group of people comprises the majority of voters, and we need to keep them on our side. The future of hunting does depend on that. :twocents:
Well said.
Post by: Humptulips on April 08, 2024, 08:06:48 AM
Humptulips, I thought the same thing. It looks photoshoppedOr it isn't a wild wolf at all. Makes me think of the pictures HSUS ran when they were campaigning for I-713 to ban bodygripping traps. They had a coyote sitting there with a conibear on its neck, alive with sad eyes. That just does not happen and neither does a wild wolf sit there and let you put your arm around it and not make an attempt to pull away. I'll add the story says he ran over it with a snowmobile yet I don't see any signs of injury.
Most have heard about the films of a guy skinning a fox alive in China. Turns out an animal rights group out of Europe paid the guy to do it and filmed it all. I would not put it past them to manufacture this story and plant it in the press.
Color me suspicious.
Post by: Gentrys on April 08, 2024, 08:18:36 AM
Post by: Gobble on April 08, 2024, 10:52:36 AM
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.
I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:
Agree 100% antis could care less
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 08, 2024, 11:26:19 AM
Post by: Platensek-po on April 08, 2024, 11:35:19 AM
:yeah:I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.
I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:
Agree 100% antis could care less
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
It’s not about appeasing the antis. First it’s about doing the right thing as a group. As hunters we Should be calling this POS out for what he is. Second it’s about showing the people on the fence or in the middle who we are as a group. You won’t convince the antis of anything but they only make up a very very small percentage of the population. Staying silent on things like this gives the appearance of indifference or even complicity. No need to stay silent. Call these things what they are and hopefully he gets everything he deserves.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 08, 2024, 11:46:47 AM
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.
I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
The anti-hunters represent only about 5-10% of the population. We're not trying to persuade any of them of anything. It's the non-hunter, but hunting tolerant population that we're appealing to by opposing this kind of cruel behavior. That's about 75-85% of the population. It is always important that we present hunting in a positive light to maintain a majority of support. By discussing it here, we're not giving the antis anything they don't already have anywhere on the internet they want to look.
Post by: Mtnwalker on April 08, 2024, 12:08:51 PM
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.
I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
The anti-hunters represent only about 5-10% of the population. We're not trying to persuade any of them of anything. It's the non-hunter, but hunting tolerant population that we're appealing to by opposing this kind of cruel behavior. That's about 75-85% of the population. It is always important that we present hunting in a positive light to maintain a majority of support. By discussing it here, we're not giving the antis anything they don't already have anywhere on the internet they want to look.
:yeah:
Post by: ducks4days on April 08, 2024, 12:35:52 PM
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.
I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
The anti-hunters represent only about 5-10% of the population. We're not trying to persuade any of them of anything. It's the non-hunter, but hunting tolerant population that we're appealing to by opposing this kind of cruel behavior. That's about 75-85% of the population. It is always important that we present hunting in a positive light to maintain a majority of support. By discussing it here, we're not giving the antis anything they don't already have anywhere on the internet they want to look.
We should oppose it because it is wrong, who cares about what the anti's think? I dont mind wolves dying prematurely when they need to. I care about any animal being unnecessarily tortured. That is a baseline position I hope everybody here shares; if they dont I would rather know than not know a person I should avoid.
Post by: jackelope on April 08, 2024, 12:39:41 PM
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.
I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
The anti-hunters represent only about 5-10% of the population. We're not trying to persuade any of them of anything. It's the non-hunter, but hunting tolerant population that we're appealing to by opposing this kind of cruel behavior. That's about 75-85% of the population. It is always important that we present hunting in a positive light to maintain a majority of support. By discussing it here, we're not giving the antis anything they don't already have anywhere on the internet they want to look.
:yeah:
Bingo. Nailed it.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 08, 2024, 12:43:45 PM
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.
I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
The anti-hunters represent only about 5-10% of the population. We're not trying to persuade any of them of anything. It's the non-hunter, but hunting tolerant population that we're appealing to by opposing this kind of cruel behavior. That's about 75-85% of the population. It is always important that we present hunting in a positive light to maintain a majority of support. By discussing it here, we're not giving the antis anything they don't already have anywhere on the internet they want to look.
We should oppose it because it is wrong, who cares about what the anti's think? I dont mind wolves dying prematurely when they need to. I care about any animal being unnecessarily tortured. That is a baseline position I hope everybody here shares; if they dont I would rather know than not know a person I should avoid.
Obviously
Post by: LDennis24 on April 08, 2024, 01:15:48 PM
I respect those that are suggesting denouncing this as hunters, but if you honestly think hunters speaking out against this will develop a single ounce of respect from the left/anti’s then you are sorely mistaken.
I’m as disgusted as anyone, but to think calling this idiot out as a hunting group will give any credit in the eyes of the anti crowd is simply a pipe dream! :twocents:
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
The anti-hunters represent only about 5-10% of the population. We're not trying to persuade any of them of anything. It's the non-hunter, but hunting tolerant population that we're appealing to by opposing this kind of cruel behavior. That's about 75-85% of the population. It is always important that we present hunting in a positive light to maintain a majority of support. By discussing it here, we're not giving the antis anything they don't already have anywhere on the internet they want to look.
We should oppose it because it is wrong, who cares about what the anti's think? I dont mind wolves dying prematurely when they need to. I care about any animal being unnecessarily tortured. That is a baseline position I hope everybody here shares; if they dont I would rather know than not know a person I should avoid.
:yeah:
I cant stand by and see an animal being tortured because a man is a weak coward and needs to feel powerful. Its kind of like abusing a spouse or children. I would like to know if someone like that is hunting where I hunt. I went out hunting with a group of guys I knew one time only to find I out later that one of them shoots hawks and eagles and practically anything that moves, cuz its fun, and I felt like 💩 for a while afterwards and thought to myself, how many people saw me with him and now wonder if I am doing the same thing. It's nice to know who you should avoid being around and who you don't want to be considered any more than a minor acquaintance of if you do cross paths with them. This is one of those situations.
Post by: bhawley76 on April 08, 2024, 01:24:19 PM
Post by: Loup Loup on April 08, 2024, 01:26:00 PM
Post by: Loup Loup on April 08, 2024, 01:45:52 PM
Post by: dwils233 on April 08, 2024, 02:10:00 PM
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
I think that's part of it though- what ammunition? In 3 pages not a single person here has defended this behavior.
That person might claim to be a part of our community, but he doesn't decide if he is a part of it- we do collectively, and when we decide our standards of behavior don't tolerate this...I just don't see any ammo to be had.
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on April 08, 2024, 02:51:24 PM
I’m with those that think the entire thread should be removed so it can’t be pulled up later as ammunition. :twocents:
I think that's part of it though- what ammunition? In 3 pages not a single person here has defended this behavior.
That person might claim to be a part of our community, but he doesn't decide if he is a part of it- we do collectively, and when we decide our standards of behavior don't tolerate this...I just don't see any ammo to be had.
Agree
Post by: MADMAX on April 08, 2024, 03:14:13 PM
It’s everwhere already
Just another dumb azz :bash:
Post by: Loup Loup on April 08, 2024, 03:47:56 PM
I haven’t defended anyone’s actions, but, what I said in a round a bout way is people should slow down and let this situation play out before they lynch somebody.
Wow, we have sportsmen here going ape-crap on this guy with no proof whatsoever that he has done anything unethical.
Now I can somewhat see how animal rights no nothings can be whipped up into a feeding frenzy.
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 08, 2024, 03:57:44 PM
Could be a true story...
Could be a really twisted attempt at attention....
No bar pic's? Seems like there would be.
Either way the guys a real gem..
Post by: Caseyd on April 08, 2024, 04:04:07 PM
Something just doesn't look right with that "wolfe".. :twocents:
Could be a true story...
Could be a really twisted attempt at attention....
No bar pic's? Seems like there would be.
Either way the guys a real gem..
He was fined $250 for possessing wildlife. Open investigation on animal cruelty, max penalty of 2 years.
Post by: ducks4days on April 08, 2024, 04:07:52 PM
dwils:
I haven’t defended anyone’s actions, but, what I said in a round a bout way is people should slow down and let this situation play out before they lynch somebody.
Wow, we have sportsmen here going ape-crap on this guy with no proof whatsoever that he has done anything unethical.
Now I can somewhat see how animal rights no nothings can be whipped up into a feeding frenzy.
Its usually a good call to reserve judgement until you feel you have enough facts to make an actual judgement. Its a thing people are generally bad at.
Quote
“The individual was hunting when he came across the wolf in the predator zone and intended to harvest it. However, the wolf was transported alive back to his residence and later to a business in Daniel, WY. The individual euthanized the wolf later that day. The individual was cited for violating Chapter 10, Importation and Possession of Live Warm-Blooded Wildlife,” according to Game and Fish..
Cited for possessing a live wolf, the Roberts was fined $250, a penalty Game and Fish has confirmed is the only violation the agency has the power to enforce.
It sounds like WGFD has proof he did something unethical, and addressed it to the extend they were allowed to. It also sounds like he did much more unethical things, but they dont have the ability to address those. So
- This guy did 100% did something wrong, and >50% did something really wrong
- People are mad they dont have the ability to punish him for something they dont have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he did
- People are mad the punishment for what he did do is so lackluster
- Hunters are talking about it and unanimously stating that what he likely did is unacceptable, whether or not he did it
As bhawley76 said, the opinion shifts for most if we start talking about Pedophiles hurting children instead of psychopaths hurting wolves. Does how you feel change the way the law should be applied? I think its a good discussion.
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 08, 2024, 04:31:16 PM
Something just doesn't look right with that "wolfe".. :twocents:
Could be a true story...
Could be a really twisted attempt at attention....
No bar pic's? Seems like there would be.
Either way the guys a real gem..
He was fined $250 for possessing wildlife. Open investigation on animal cruelty, max penalty of 2 years.
Right
But they didn't find him with a live wolfe from what I read.. Witness statements sounds like the basis of the investigation.
Maybe there's video..who knows...a still picture doesn't sway me.
Just hard to wrap my head around being able to control a wolfe enough to parade it around town for selfies and such.
Regardless..like I said the guys a real gem...
Post by: nwmein199 on April 08, 2024, 04:35:42 PM
Something just doesn't look right with that "wolfe".. :twocents:
Could be a true story...
Could be a really twisted attempt at attention....
No bar pic's? Seems like there would be.
Either way the guys a real gem..
Tin foil hat time - its obvious Bill Gates and the Clinton deep state set this man up to further the anti-hunters wolf agenda
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 08, 2024, 05:10:40 PM
Something just doesn't look right with that "wolfe".. :twocents:
Could be a true story...
Could be a really twisted attempt at attention....
No bar pic's? Seems like there would be.
Either way the guys a real gem..
Tin foil hat time - its obvious Bill Gates and the Clinton deep state set this man up to further the anti-hunters wolf agenda
I don't know
I've read quite a few articles and none mention the Willy brothers but it's possible.
Of course Wyoming game and fish hasn't named the suspect either..
That name came from news agencies trying to connect the dots.
Not that they ever get anything wrong....
Creating lots of hate though
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/04/08/wyoming-men-with-same-name-as-wolf-tormentor-get-death-threats/
Post by: Bob33 on April 08, 2024, 05:57:21 PM
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/04/08/wyoming-men-with-same-name-as-wolf-tormentor-get-death-threats/
Post by: bearpaw on April 09, 2024, 02:24:31 AM
Post by: Angry Perch on April 10, 2024, 01:11:00 PM
Post by: actionshooter on April 10, 2024, 08:12:51 PM
IMO: This topic should stay on the forum to show the complete disgust within the hunting community.Yep... every non hunter (not anti-hunter) needs to see that we (hunters) do not condone this *censored*.
Post by: Bob33 on April 10, 2024, 08:15:18 PM
In response to a public records request, the Wyoming Game and Fish Department on Wednesday evening released two short disturbing video clips of a wolf that had been captured and tormented by a Wyoming, man before being killed.
Mark Heinz
April 10, 2024
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/04/10/disturbing-video-released-by-game-and-fish-shows-tormented-wyoming-wolf/
Post by: Humptulips on April 10, 2024, 08:34:07 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 10, 2024, 09:14:21 PM
Humptulips, I thought the same thing. It looks photoshoppedOr it isn't a wild wolf at all. Makes me think of the pictures HSUS ran when they were campaigning for I-713 to ban bodygripping traps. They had a coyote sitting there with a conibear on its neck, alive with sad eyes. That just does not happen and neither does a wild wolf sit there and let you put your arm around it and not make an attempt to pull away. I'll add the story says he ran over it with a snowmobile yet I don't see any signs of injury.
Most have heard about the films of a guy skinning a fox alive in China. Turns out an animal rights group out of Europe paid the guy to do it and filmed it all. I would not put it past them to manufacture this story and plant it in the press.
Color me suspicious.
The guy pled guilty to possessing a wild wolf.
Post by: Skillet on April 10, 2024, 09:26:29 PM
I watched and I guess I missed the torture part. Animal seemed to be laying on the floor with a muzzle on it, not much else.
It's a wild animal, I don't believe it would be that docile if it was healthy and not compromised. And I'd have a hard time being convinced that not killing that thing as soon as it was injured after being run down with a snowmobile isn't a form of torture. You can even hear someone saying "I think he's getting his feet under him," which I take to mean they know he's injured/compromised in some way at that time and recovering. Just to be taken out back and killed anyway?
I'm not mad there's another wolf out of the system, but I don't understand the desire to make it suffer. If you don't "put it out of its misery" at that point, you're willingly keeping it in its misery - and that's torture to me.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 11, 2024, 04:58:57 AM
Post by: raydog on April 11, 2024, 05:54:02 AM
Post by: chukardogs on April 11, 2024, 08:13:23 AM
Post by: LDennis24 on April 11, 2024, 09:04:30 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 11, 2024, 09:14:29 AM
Post by: bigmacc on April 11, 2024, 10:38:23 AM
There is a reason everyone is taught to make an ethical and sound decision when taking a shot at an animal so that it is dispatched quickly and without suffering. That goes for predators, ungulates, birds etc. This was intentional torture plain and simple. Nothing else.:yeah:
Post by: Willowemoc on April 11, 2024, 10:42:37 AM
Wow!!! I thought to myself this morning before looking at this that I should bring up the fact that the wolf had been ran over by a snow mobile and may have sustained internal injuries and this fact, may account for his lethargy and seemingly docileness. I never could of imagined that the wolf was just getting what he deserved. Alrighty then, maybe this thread, post or whatever it's called, should be removed?I figure people would have taken the whole run over by a snowmobile thing into consideration also.
Post by: NOCK NOCK on April 11, 2024, 05:33:52 PM
Humptulips, I thought the same thing. It looks photoshoppedOr it isn't a wild wolf at all. Makes me think of the pictures HSUS ran when they were campaigning for I-713 to ban bodygripping traps. They had a coyote sitting there with a conibear on its neck, alive with sad eyes. That just does not happen and neither does a wild wolf sit there and let you put your arm around it and not make an attempt to pull away. I'll add the story says he ran over it with a snowmobile yet I don't see any signs of injury.
Most have heard about the films of a guy skinning a fox alive in China. Turns out an animal rights group out of Europe paid the guy to do it and filmed it all. I would not put it past them to manufacture this story and plant it in the press.
Color me suspicious.
I agree. Dbag if it actually happened as purported, but things just don't seem right. :twocents:
Post by: addicted1 on April 11, 2024, 08:23:07 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 11, 2024, 09:35:41 PM
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on April 15, 2024, 07:06:19 AM
Till the day I die I'll never understand the hatred towards an animal for merely existing as God designed them. ESPECIALLY the hatred from an animal who who hates them because they are trying to do the same exact thing....kill a deer or elk :dunno:
Amen brother.
Post by: chukarchaser on April 15, 2024, 06:07:58 PM
Post by: Angry Perch on April 17, 2024, 03:08:34 PM
I do not condone torture or this behavior in anyway. I will say this that until you see the carnage that wolves can do, don't be too judgemental about people hating them. I don't mean stories, videos or pictures I mean the real deal carnage up close a and personal. It changes you.
Yep, they are wild animals. We are not.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 17, 2024, 06:14:34 PM
Rough video to watch, absolute shame.
Where did you see it?
Post by: Angry Perch on April 18, 2024, 02:48:01 PM
Rough video to watch, absolute shame.
Where did you see it?
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/04/10/disturbing-video-released-by-game-and-fish-shows-tormented-wyoming-wolf/
Post by: ducks4days on April 18, 2024, 06:45:52 PM
Rough video to watch, absolute shame.
Where did you see it?
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/04/10/disturbing-video-released-by-game-and-fish-shows-tormented-wyoming-wolf/
It’s still messed up, but that isn’t even in the top 200 roughest videos I have watched.
Post by: LDennis24 on April 19, 2024, 09:21:37 AM
Post by: highside74 on April 19, 2024, 10:53:06 AM
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Post by: Bob33 on June 25, 2024, 06:51:36 PM
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/06/25/running-predators-down-with-snowmobiles-could-stay-legal-in-wyoming/
Post by: Loup Loup on June 25, 2024, 08:10:44 PM
Post by: bearpaw on June 27, 2024, 09:26:46 PM
"Running Predators Down With Snowmobiles Could Stay Legal In Wyoming"
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/06/25/running-predators-down-with-snowmobiles-could-stay-legal-in-wyoming/
On the surface it sounds terrible, but if you read the comments made by legislators they make good points?
Post by: LDennis24 on June 27, 2024, 11:28:08 PM
Post by: bearpaw on June 28, 2024, 07:46:18 AM
I believe in killing the animal quickly and humanely, by that I mean just kill it and don't let it suffer to amuse yourself. I don't have a problem with killing every last wolf South of the 50th parallel. I don't care how you kill it either. I just don't think someone should allow the animal to suffer and post it online for everyone to see and disparage the hunting community.
I completely agree with all of that. Just because I said the legislators make some good points for not outlawing snowmobiles for hunting does not mean I agree with what the idiot did. It simply means the legislators made some good points why not to outlaw the use of snowmobiles when predator hunting. As an example a snowmobile can be used to actually make sure you kill an animal as quickly as possible, it's use can prevent a wounded animal from getting away and suffering for an extended period of time.
Post by: ducks4days on June 28, 2024, 09:49:05 AM
"Running Predators Down With Snowmobiles Could Stay Legal In Wyoming"
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/06/25/running-predators-down-with-snowmobiles-could-stay-legal-in-wyoming/
On the surface it sounds terrible, but if you read the comments made by legislators they make good points?
What good points did they make?
Post by: Angry Perch on June 28, 2024, 02:47:51 PM
“If, in a particular instance I can kill that animal or run over it and immediately kill it — which I think should be required under the law — it may actually be a more humane treatment of that animal than just being out there shooting and injuring animals and then not being able to chase them down to finish the process, as is normally required in good hunting management,” he added.
Post by: fishngamereaper on September 06, 2024, 05:43:25 AM
Post by: Special T on September 06, 2024, 08:19:36 AM
Where this hurts sportsmen in in states like ours, Colorado and another state with a large non hunting metro area. This event hurts us. No matter how much we nashing of teeth or chastising we do antis will paint us with that brush..
Post by: ducks4days on September 06, 2024, 09:15:10 AM
Wyoming isn't gonna change anything in regards to killing wolves. That state politically is nothing like ours.
Where this hurts sportsmen in in states like ours, Colorado and another state with a large non hunting metro area. This event hurts us. No matter how much we nashing of teeth or chastising we do antis will paint us with that brush..
The anti's are going to do what they do online as they always do. Most people arent pissed that the wolf was killed, they are pissed that it was injured, loaded into the back of a truck with its mouth taped shut, and drug around a bar in town while it was dying to show off. It isnt a killing wolves issue, if that was done to an elk or rabbit or duck it is also wrong.
The issue isnt about wyoming and killing wolves, its about wyoming not having enforcement mechanisms to prevent people from deliberately torturing animals that arent pets or livestock.