Post by: Hannibal on April 13, 2024, 06:56:11 AM
Did you apply?
Post by: JakeLand on April 15, 2024, 05:23:44 AM
Post by: Bullkllr on April 15, 2024, 07:28:09 AM
Post by: pickardjw on April 15, 2024, 07:45:22 AM
Post by: HUNTIN4SIX on April 15, 2024, 08:19:34 AM
Post by: high_hunter on April 15, 2024, 08:37:38 AM
https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/washington/jobs/4466454/wildlife-conflict-specialist-fish-and-wildlife-biologist-3-permanent-04551
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Post by: Hannibal on April 23, 2024, 09:22:04 AM
I aint buying it,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: TeacherMan on April 23, 2024, 01:33:22 PM
Post by: Feathernfurr on April 23, 2024, 03:14:18 PM
I can understand peoples frustration with state fish and wildlife agency’s, but know that some of us are diehard outdoorsman that are fighting the good fight. We only have so much power and reach on the bottom 2/3rds of the totem pole but we’re trying to represent our community as best we can.
Post by: Trapper John on April 23, 2024, 05:42:57 PM
I applied,,,,,,,Apparently there is a better trapper then me......
I aint buying it,,,,,,,,,,
Has nothing to do with trapping. Have you seen the qualifications?
Here:
REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS:
A Bachelor's degree in fisheries, wildlife management, natural resource science, or environmental science.
AND
Three (3) years of professional experience in one (1) or more of the following: Fish management or fish research. Wildlife management or wildlife research. Habitat management or habitat research. (Twelve semesters or eighteen-quarter hours of specific course work is required for certain positions).
OR , Two (2) years as a Fish & Wildlife Biologist 2.
They need a guy or gal that just came out of school. Not one that has been in the field for 40 years and doesn't have a Bachelors Degree.
They need a young person so they can mold them.
I have tried Appling for jobs like this for USDA-APHIS-ADC years ago. They don't need a trapper from the field, they need a book trained person.
Just my two cents.
JC
Post by: Hannibal on April 25, 2024, 10:13:56 AM
Have a degree or 4
have 20 plus years experience
Even had WDFW people as references.............
Post by: Frank The Tank on May 20, 2024, 12:13:42 PM
It's definitely an indicator of their struggles to deal with problem wildlife at the larger scale, such as dealing with farmers, ranchers, etc. Plus given any government agency's administradium (much less WDFW) just doing the job at hand will be painful for the individual. Plus in today's climate, finding a person that can actually do some of the stuff listed will be hard, much less how WDFW wants it. THe end result is the landowner will just get even more frustrated when WDFW sends this person out with a clipboard and when everything is said and done has done nothing to remedy the situation.
Post by: pd on May 20, 2024, 03:20:27 PM
I can’t speak directly for WDFW but I’ve worked for IDFG and a number of other state and federal fish and wildlife agencies. I got a degree in wildlife ecology after my time in the military, and have worked a number of jobs that required my degree and paid $16-$18 an hour.
I can understand peoples frustration with state fish and wildlife agency’s, but know that some of us are diehard outdoorsman that are fighting the good fight. We only have so much power and reach on the bottom 2/3rds of the totem pole but we’re trying to represent our community as best we can.
You have my respect, Sir.
I met a crew of wardens (and USFS officer) in the deep woods last year, and gave the WDFW warden more than an earful about the commission. I heard the "we agree with you, we are hunters as well..." portion, but I doubled down: "The commission is now structured to ignore the community, so the only way to hold the line is to use 'science' to rebut the current commission's stated objectives." My point to the warden was this: They (you) are the only hope that we have now. The legislature is one party in both houses, with the governor's mansion. There are no dissenting voices in the power structure. As you said, the bottom 2/3 of the totem pole has to play the "scientific evidence" card. There is simply no other alternative left.
I felt bad, I know that I was too harsh to the warden. If you read this, please accept my apologies for the harsh words.
Post by: Fidelk on May 20, 2024, 04:39:14 PM
Post by: Feathernfurr on May 20, 2024, 07:43:44 PM
Post by: Frank The Tank on May 21, 2024, 10:17:13 PM
I can’t speak directly for WDFW but I’ve worked for IDFG and a number of other state and federal fish and wildlife agencies. I got a degree in wildlife ecology after my time in the military, and have worked a number of jobs that required my degree and paid $16-$18 an hour.
I can understand peoples frustration with state fish and wildlife agency’s, but know that some of us are diehard outdoorsman that are fighting the good fight. We only have so much power and reach on the bottom 2/3rds of the totem pole but we’re trying to represent our community as best we can.
There may be even more to it than that... Enforcement folks don't need any kind of biology/wildlife degree, and only those with these will be listened to (maybe). Plus, I wonder how much the hierarchical "military" structure of the Enforcement Police holds sway. Better toe the line and do what big Sarge says, and to dissent is to threaten any possible career progression. George Brady and I saw this even in the biologist world when, during a wolf introduction community meeting (which they quickly stopped) the Bio stated that the wolf population would have "No impact whatsoever on the ungulate population." After the meeting, George called the BS card on her. "You know that's patently false." "Yes, but I'm just a few years from retiring and don't want to rock the boat." I *censored* you not. unperturbed, George pointed at her face and said "That's the PERFECT time to rock the boat!"
You have my respect, Sir.
I met a crew of wardens (and USFS officer) in the deep woods last year, and gave the WDFW warden more than an earful about the commission. I heard the "we agree with you, we are hunters as well..." portion, but I doubled down: "The commission is now structured to ignore the community, so the only way to hold the line is to use 'science' to rebut the current commission's stated objectives." My point to the warden was this: They (you) are the only hope that we have now. The legislature is one party in both houses, with the governor's mansion. There are no dissenting voices in the power structure. As you said, the bottom 2/3 of the totem pole has to play the "scientific evidence" card. There is simply no other alternative left.
I felt bad, I know that I was too harsh to the warden. If you read this, please accept my apologies for the harsh words.