Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: sandythebowtotenmama on June 14, 2009, 11:20:39 AM
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My name is Sandy and I have been bowhunting for 3 yrs. and have not shot a deer yet, thanks to the "no doe's". I found out yesterday that I amazingly got the Entiat-C buck tag, unit 247, for Nov 21-30, 2009. I don't know much about the unit, I have been there once on a 1 day scouting trip. Can anyone please help with any info that would help a lady bowhunter out? I would appreciate it, thank you:)
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There will be lots of deer in the lower part of the unit at that time of year. You'll just need to be prepared for snow and bad roads.
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How much snow is usually in that unit in Nov.? I've heard of Crum Canyon from an article I read, is that a good area to get into?
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:bash:
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I sent you a private message, but yeah, Crum Canyon would be a good area as that is about as low as you can get, and there should be plenty of deer down in there by the end of November. I think the snow varies a lot depending on the year. There's no telling how much there will be. Probably a good chance of having a couple of feet up higher anyway.
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Iceman now you can say TOLD YOU SO. :chuckle:
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Thank you, I finally saw that message thing and got in there and read it. I'm not blonde:) just learning the ropes. Myspace is a bit easier,lol.
Why is this Iceman bashing his head?
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Thank you, I finally saw that message thing and got in there and read it. I'm not blonde:) just learning the ropes. Myspace is a bit easier,lol.
Why is this Iceman bashing his head?
Because he's only 13, but has the body of a 55? year old. :chuckle: No, seriously, nobody really understands why Iceman does anything? :chuckle:
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Hi Sandythebow...
Many of us regulars on the site get a bit steamed when newbies show up and ask for help a bit too soon I guess.... Free world, do as you wish, but we want to get to know a guy before sharing too much info. We also like when folks share specific details in a private email so that good intel on an area is not posted openly, often flooding the area with new hunters....
I hope you know what I am trying to say. We do have an Introductions thread where guys have been posting personal info about themselves..... also nice to hear a bit about a fella before some give too much info...
The other issue many of us find frustrating is someone applying for special hunts that they know little about. Many feel that the chance of getting drawn is shot to hell by so many people applying, and when they do get a quality tag like yours, they have no or little idea about how to begin to hunt it.
Dont get me wrong, and I am sure I speak for many on the issue here, we want you to succeed....we just want folks like yourself to sort of work your way up to getting good help. Personally, until I know a guy pretty good, I am not giving info. This way I avoid helping someone who may not deserve my assistance.
Welcome to the site.
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i think he's showing his frustration because every year about this time new members open up an account then instantly start asking about great spots to start their hunts without saying :hello: and getting to know the site first....make sense?
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bear, you are oh so right, I have no idea what I am doing either! :chuckle:
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:pee:
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bear, you are oh so right, I have no idea what I am doing either! :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: By the way, I like your title bowtotenmama. It's HOT
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Thank you bear, I like it too. It describes me. I tote a bow and I'm a mama.
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Pm sent :hello:
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The other issue many of us find frustrating is someone applying for special hunts that they know little about. Many feel that the chance of getting drawn is shot to hell by so many people applying, and when they do get a quality tag like yours, they have no or little idea about how to begin to hunt it.
I often apply for units I "know little about." Other than what I've heard about it from others who have hunted it and the information I've gleaned from reading the harvest reports every year. If I see success rates of over 90% consistently year after year, I am almost without a doubt that it will be a good hunt if I am lucky enough to draw it. It's also not hard to figure out what some of the best hunts are by looking at the number of applicants. Why shouldn't people apply for those, even if they're not familiar with the unit? After all, you have 4 choices, why not put 4 choices down?
I see nothing wrong with asking for help on a unit that one has never hunted. If people don't want to help, they don't have to. I don't know why so many times on here new posters have to be treated with so much disrespect for simply asking a question. Well that's just my :twocents:
Iceman admit it, you're just mad because you didn't draw an Entiat permit, correct? :dunno:
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Thanks bobcat for the help. If I can talk my mom into going with me, I'll make another scouting trip over there(Entiat). I don't dare go alone. It look's like I'll be spending the 4th. of July weekend over there for sure. I am in a group, but hunt on my own, I am the only female, if you know what I mean(potty breaks). I figure these guys have been there and scouted, but I haven't done much scouting over there, I don't like going on long drives alone...Sandy.
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scoyoc5, makes sense. And I'm sorry for stepping on toes :'(
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Kind of a sore subject around here this time of year. Congrats on the draw and I hope you have a good hunt. Stick around and enjoy the site. We'd love to hear from you. You are also a minority around here so the bowhunting gals would love the extra addition.
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I'll be around so much you'll ask me to go away ;)
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Go AWAY!!!!!!
lol just kidding! Congrats on the tag!
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Congrats on the tag, wish you thet best of luck. My wife hunts also so I know what it is like for you girls trying to do it all on your own. Wish you the best hunting season ever. Take lots of pics for the poor saps that did not get drawn so you can show them off this fall.
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Iceman admit it, you're just mad because you didn't draw an Entiat permit, correct? :dunno:
I admit it. :'(
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blkbearklr, thank you, and I'd like to meet your wife,lol. I only know 2 other females that hunt, but they like to hunt with each other so they don't talk much.
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Sandy, You need to drive up the hill to Tieton and pay me a visit. I've had that tag twice in the last 5 years. Both times (the 1st year it went to draw and last year) there wasn't even a skiff of snow. Bring your maps with you and I'll help you out.
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Once you get past the orchard, the road can be iffy when there is ice or snow. I would advise you put chains on about 3 miles up. If the weather (snow) is halfway decent, you should make it up to the plateau. That house you see in the distance to the the north, I have heard feeds the deer in winter.
You can take the the entiat road to the store and ask. Sometimes there are people there that will give good advice.
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Use your scout trip to familiarize yourself with the roads and stuff but the deer you will be hunting are far from there now and you may get pretty discouraged if you are looking for the bucks you will be seeing in Nov. Its a fun hunt , open country ,long shots and lots of blown stocks. Hunting with a buddy helps a bunch. nwhunter
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don't forget mud creek and tyee mt.
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don't forget mud creek and tyee mt.
TYEE MT. IS NOT IN THE ENTIAT UNIT!!! :yike: :yike: :yike:
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Elkstuffer, wow were neighbors almost, just what 5 miles apart. I live on S. Naches Rd. just before the bridge. Have you been to Walkabout? They have awesome bacon cheese burgers. I'm looking for an Entiat GMU, I have a map of that area, but it's not the best, I got it a few months ago when we went up to Entiat scouting. The help would be very appreciated:) Thank you.
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Hoofsandwings, cool thank you!
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nwhunter, we went up on April 11,2009 and spent from 8 am-almost dark running around up there. I saw a ton of deer. I took some pic's(don't know how, yet to put any on here). It was awesome! I haven't seen that many deer since I was down in the Grayback(Soda Springs Rd). I know I won't see much of anything, just need to know my way around.LOL. Thanks for the help:)
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Drycreek, thank you :)
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Slider, thank you, I would be pulling my hair out:)
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I had this tag last year, and hunted the first 8 days. I'll send you a PM and share what I know...
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ipkus, thank you that would be nice:)
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pm sent....
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elkstuffer will set you up with good info. good luck and get a big one. J
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benchleg, ;) thanks.
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Great tag, you are in for one hell of a good time.
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huntnphool, I hope so, and I hope to fill that tag. It would be great if my first animal was a nice buck for my wall:)
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great tag , Its my firsty choice . I had it a few years back and went in blind , after hunting on the chelan side for three days I found crumb . If theres snow in there its really good ( knox rock ) . If i get that tag again and theres snoew in there . i'll snow shoe in and tent camp it can bee that good . i saw a buck in there two years back that I still dream about no *censored* 34 or so. Work hard it will be worth it . I liked it when it was dec 1-8.if no snow look up on top of potato creek . Good luck . It gats crunchy make sure your bottom pin is on the money.Coach
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Wow, 34! Thanks for the info that's awesome:)
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I drew that tag last year - got unlucky with unseasonably warm weather and no snow. Having said that, I saw over 100 bucks during my hunt (probably a few of them were bucks that I saw more than once) with a couple of really nice ones. I pulled my bow back on 7 different bucks, 4 of them 4 points and the rest 3 points because I promised myself that I would either eat the tag or shoot a big one. I blew the stalk at 53 yards on the biggest buck (that was NICE buck) because I was running out of daylight and hurried too much (the kind of blown stalk that leaves a guy in tears).
In order to see all the bucks, I hunted from daylight to dark every day of the season, didn't take "lunch breaks" to go back to camp in the middle of the day and, after the first weekend, found some steep, nasty stuff that really couldn't be seen from a road (not too many places like that in this unit) that some bigger bucks were hanging out in. It takes endless patience and, in my experience, really good spotting scope/binos to get the job done - it will make your job a lot easier if there is some snow on the ground, though. The largest bucks that I saw were a long ways away and laying down with just antlers sticking out of the grass in areas with lots of burned trees and blowdown.
If you're not as picky as I was you should do well (nothing wrong with a big 3 point or a medium 4 point - if I ever draw again I might have trouble being that selective a second time.) If you just want a doe (I think it's still any deer, isn't it?) you should be able to pick one out close to a road.
I'll send a PM.
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I don't even want to hear that ,if your after a doe crap. If you aren't after a trophy buck with that tag put in for another unit.
I am not insulting the original poster, my opinion is that if you put in for trophy units hunt trophy animals.
Good luck on your hunt.
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Good point, Ironhead - I was mainly referring to the last day meat hunt for someone that has yet to shoot a deer with a bow. By all means, you should be trying to shoot a nice buck.
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halflife65, thanks for the info, and I hope for some snow,lol. I wouldn't pass on a nice 3pt.:) It's not any deer, it's buck only that my tag is for. I'll be doing a lot of scouting between now and then to get the lay of the land, I'd like a big one if I can find one, maybe the one you saw, huh,lol...
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Ironhead, I won't shoot a doe, I prefer to shoot the male species,lol, I mean a buck, a big buck, with big steaks and roast's if you know what I mean. But I hope to shoot something, even a BIG 2pt. is better than nothing and wasting my tag. This is the hunt of my lifetime:)
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The Entiat C is for "any buck" so the does are safe. Taking a buck will be a challenge. You will see a lot of deer and many bucks but getting a good clean kill is another story. Hope that first arrow hits the mark. Enjoy the stalk and enjoy the experience. We hope you come home with some venison but you surely will go home with an experience of a life time.
This unit is mostly public lands with very few gates. If we have a normal winter, you will appreciate 4 wheels with chains. It is all open country and easy to hunt but steep country.
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Thanks muleracks :)
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Check out my newest thread on community, photograhy, for some pic's. ;)
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Sandy , pm me I know more about this area than told , thanks for the sheep info .Coach