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Title: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 18, 2024, 12:57:28 PM
Who’s putting in this month? I just put in for my moose tag. Let the state make interest on my money for couple months before they give it back most likely 😂

When would you guess results by this year? Sometime mid May?
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: millerwheeler on April 18, 2024, 01:12:45 PM
I’m in
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: kentrek on April 18, 2024, 01:28:34 PM
In for sheep, how about that $90.00  processing fee  :o
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 18, 2024, 01:40:36 PM
In for sheep, how about that $90.00  processing fee  :o

I won’t complain about my Idaho resident prices anymore 😂
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: kentrek on April 18, 2024, 01:52:53 PM
In for sheep, how about that $90.00  processing fee  :o

I won’t complain about my Idaho resident prices anymore 😂

What's a residents processing fee ?? Does that even go to the state ?
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 18, 2024, 02:02:28 PM
In for sheep, how about that $90.00  processing fee  :o

I won’t complain about my Idaho resident prices anymore 😂

What's a residents processing fee ?? Does that even go to the state ?

I don’t have price lock so the total for me was $227 and change doing it online. I’ll get back all but like $16.50 of it sometime in July if I’m not drawn I believe.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: go4steelhd on April 18, 2024, 02:04:31 PM
Just put in today :tup:
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: kentrek on April 18, 2024, 02:32:06 PM
In for sheep, how about that $90.00  processing fee  :o

I won’t complain about my Idaho resident prices anymore 😂

What's a residents processing fee ?? Does that even go to the state ?

I don’t have price lock so the total for me was $227 and change doing it online. I’ll get back all but like $16.50 of it sometime in July if I’m not drawn I believe.

Not too shabby, don't worry I remember not being able afford the lifetime license when that was available... makes me Wana puke  :chuckle:

Oh well, i don't mind floating the boat as I sure as heck can't live there...it would be nice if I could use these charitable draw schemes as a tax write off tho
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Machias on April 18, 2024, 02:37:38 PM
I'm going to put in for moo....oh wait, I drew a moose tag last year.   :chuckle:  Ok, I'm sorry, that's just wrong of me.   8)
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 18, 2024, 02:51:04 PM
In for sheep, how about that $90.00  processing fee  :o

I won’t complain about my Idaho resident prices anymore 😂

What's a residents processing fee ?? Does that even go to the state ?
The processing fee is the 3% that it costs idfg to accept payment via card.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: kentrek on April 18, 2024, 02:56:07 PM
In for sheep, how about that $90.00  processing fee  :o

I won’t complain about my Idaho resident prices anymore 😂

What's a residents processing fee ?? Does that even go to the state ?
The processing fee is the 3% that it costs idfg to accept payment via card.

I guess that makes sense lol 3% of alot is alot !
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 18, 2024, 03:11:10 PM
In for sheep, how about that $90.00  processing fee  :o

I won’t complain about my Idaho resident prices anymore 😂

What's a residents processing fee ?? Does that even go to the state ?
The processing fee is the 3% that it costs idfg to accept payment via card.

I guess that makes sense lol 3% of alot is alot !
It definitely adds up!
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: go4steelhd on April 18, 2024, 06:16:17 PM
In for sheep, how about that $90.00  processing fee  :o

I won’t complain about my Idaho resident prices anymore 😂

What's a residents processing fee ?? Does that even go to the state ?
The processing fee is the 3% that it costs idfg to accept payment via card.

I guess that makes sense lol 3% of alot is alot !
It definitely adds up!


I’ve never added up all the fees for the states I apply for each year, I think I would cry.

And I can’t even imagine how pissed my wife would be if she kept an eye on it
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 18, 2024, 06:40:50 PM
In for sheep, how about that $90.00  processing fee  :o

I won’t complain about my Idaho resident prices anymore 😂

What's a residents processing fee ?? Does that even go to the state ?
The processing fee is the 3% that it costs idfg to accept payment via card.

I guess that makes sense lol 3% of alot is alot !
It definitely adds up!


I’ve never added up all the fees for the states I apply for each year, I think I would cry.

And I can’t even imagine how pissed my wife would be if she kept an eye on it

I spent about $600 today on two of my girls and myself just staying in Idaho as a resident and I haven’t even been able to apply for their special deer and elk permits for them yet (5/1-5/31).
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Naches Sportsman on April 18, 2024, 07:42:07 PM
I’ve been staring at Goats almost everyday this month, but haven’t made a decision yet  :chuckle:. Pronghorn tag or goat tag? Hmmm. Freezers are still well packed with moose, deer, and lion so really don’t need another deer or elk this year.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 18, 2024, 07:45:31 PM
I’ve been staring at Goats almost everyday this month, but haven’t made a decision yet  :chuckle:. Pronghorn tag or goat tag? Hmmm. Freezers are still well packed with moose, deer, and lion so really don’t need another deer or elk this year.  :chuckle:

That’s seriously the hard part. One thing I really liked about Washington was being able to apply for it all. Idaho definitely limits that for you. Honestly surprising they do it, end of the day they loose a ton of money because of it. Same amount of tags issued either way.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on April 19, 2024, 05:27:22 AM
I’ve been staring at Goats almost everyday this month, but haven’t made a decision yet  :chuckle:. Pronghorn tag or goat tag? Hmmm. Freezers are still well packed with moose, deer, and lion so really don’t need another deer or elk this year.  :chuckle:

That’s seriously the hard part. One thing I really liked about Washington was being able to apply for it all. Idaho definitely limits that for you. Honestly surprising they do it, end of the day they loose a ton of money because of it. Same amount of tags issued either way.

How did you like those draw odds in Washington compared to Idaho? 
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: boneaddict on April 19, 2024, 06:48:10 AM
That system allowed me to draw first time I applied and my Dad the following year.  Some luck still but the odds were dramatically improved by their system of doing things
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 19, 2024, 06:48:25 AM
I’ve been staring at Goats almost everyday this month, but haven’t made a decision yet  :chuckle:. Pronghorn tag or goat tag? Hmmm. Freezers are still well packed with moose, deer, and lion so really don’t need another deer or elk this year.  :chuckle:

That’s seriously the hard part. One thing I really liked about Washington was being able to apply for it all. Idaho definitely limits that for you. Honestly surprising they do it, end of the day they loose a ton of money because of it. Same amount of tags issued either way.

How did you like those draw odds in Washington compared to Idaho?

This is only my third year putting in a draw in Idaho and have yet to pull anything. I can only apply for one thing here. So I just put in for moose. In WA I never got a moose, currently have 19 points just sitting there. But I did manage to draw several great elk tags over the years (peaches ridge 2 yrs in a row) and a ton of deer tags.

I guess I never really expect to get drawn lol. It’s more like pull tabs, you do it for the fun of it never expecting to really win. It sucks only playing one 😂
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: boneaddict on April 19, 2024, 06:55:32 AM
I spent my 200 bucks last night for that same pull tab dream in Utah.   I'm max points in every category.   I loathe point systems
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Alan K on April 19, 2024, 07:27:00 AM
What makes Idaho "good" is the amount of tags versus applicants rather than the system - unless you're the type that is only really focused on one species.  In Idaho your odds will rarely improve over time. Most of the time they will go down as applicants increase, and you're locked in at 0% for the other species.

I too hate preference point systems, but don't mind bonus points since you still have a chance regardless of where you're at.

I'd rather take a slim chance at all than a small chance at one.  :twocents:

And for what it's worth, I'm in for moose.  :tup:
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: idahohuntr on April 19, 2024, 08:12:38 AM
What makes Idaho "good" is the amount of tags versus applicants rather than the system - unless you're the type that is only really focused on one species.  In Idaho your odds will rarely improve over time. Most of the time they will go down as applicants increase, and you're locked in at 0% for the other species.

I too hate preference point systems, but don't mind bonus points since you still have a chance regardless of where you're at.

I'd rather take a slim chance at all than a small chance at one.  :twocents:

And for what it's worth, I'm in for moose.  :tup:
Idaho does have more tags - but I prefer their system. Every hunter in my entire family has drawn moose tags.

Last years Idaho moose tags (517) divided by moose applicants (7384) = overall 7% of applicants getting a moose tag.

There were close to 75,000 apps for elk tags alone last year.

You start letting E/D/A people put in for M/S/G...you absolutely turn the system into less than 1% of applicants getting a moose tag which means the vast majority of folks will never draw in their hunting lifetimes.

But its all a game of trade-offs...<1% chance at moose is not 0...and you can also draw some E/D/A tags along the way.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 19, 2024, 08:32:33 AM
I spent my 200 bucks last night for that same pull tab dream in Utah.   I'm max points in every category.   I loathe point systems

Points sound great unless you’re the new guy 😂 Reality I have pretty high odds of drawing my moose tag in Idaho eventually. I put in 19 yrs in WA and got a big goose egg. Figure my donations filled in a few potholes in King Co.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on April 19, 2024, 08:33:41 AM
What makes Idaho "good" is the amount of tags versus applicants rather than the system - unless you're the type that is only really focused on one species.  In Idaho your odds will rarely improve over time. Most of the time they will go down as applicants increase, and you're locked in at 0% for the other species.

I too hate preference point systems, but don't mind bonus points since you still have a chance regardless of where you're at.

I'd rather take a slim chance at all than a small chance at one.  :twocents:

And for what it's worth, I'm in for moose.  :tup:
Idaho does have more tags - but I prefer their system. Every hunter in my entire family has drawn moose tags.

Last years Idaho moose tags (517) divided by moose applicants (7384) = overall 7% of applicants getting a moose tag.

There were close to 75,000 apps for elk tags alone last year.

You start letting E/D/A people put in for M/S/G...you absolutely turn the system into less than 1% of applicants getting a moose tag which means the vast majority of folks will never draw in their hunting lifetimes.

But its all a game of trade-offs...<1% chance at moose is not 0...and you can also draw some E/D/A tags along the way.

Great breakdown.  This why I support the current system 100%.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Machias on April 19, 2024, 10:00:46 AM
Got my moose tag on year #3 and my wife drew a moose tag her first year applying.  One of us has drawn an extra whitetail does tag every year for the past 5 years and last year we both drew an extra  whitetail doe tag. 
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: kentrek on April 19, 2024, 10:32:24 AM
Show me the year your going to draw a idaho oil
Show me the year your going to draw a Washington oil

 :hello: :chuckle:

Different systems, same results

Good luck everyone
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: idahohuntr on April 19, 2024, 11:19:51 AM

Different systems, same results

:chuckle:

Not even close.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 19, 2024, 12:35:08 PM
Got my moose tag on year #3 and my wife drew a moose tag her first year applying.  One of us has drawn an extra whitetail does tag every year for the past 5 years and last year we both drew an extra  whitetail doe tag.

Hoping yr 3 is my lucky number. Same unit you got, by back yard lol…
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: X-Force on April 19, 2024, 03:32:38 PM

Different systems, same results

:chuckle:

Not even close.

For sure not even close… out of staters in Idaho have a 5% or better chance at drawing some moose tags… in Washington top points holders have <1% chance.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: High Climber on April 19, 2024, 03:36:19 PM
I’m in for moose  :tup:
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: kentrek on April 19, 2024, 03:37:18 PM

Different systems, same results

:chuckle:

Not even close.

For sure not even close… out of staters in Idaho have a 5% or better chance at drawing some moose tags… in Washington top points holders have <1% chance.

So how many years do I need to apply in order to draw a 5% tag ?
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: kentrek on April 19, 2024, 04:05:46 PM
And don't get me wrong, 5% is awesome...but I've had my hopes up for sub 10% tags, heck even sub 15% tags for along time !! 5% should be a 1 tag in 20 years...could be sooner, could be later... sounds very similar to Washington

If Washington made us choose one category to apply for I bet you'd see comparable odds
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: X-Force on April 19, 2024, 04:38:43 PM
And don't get me wrong, 5% is awesome...but I've had my hopes up for sub 10% tags, heck even sub 15% tags for along time !! 5% should be a 1 tag in 20 years...could be sooner, could be later... sounds very similar to Washington

If Washington made us choose one category to apply for I bet you'd see comparable odds

It’s really not. Idaho 5% is roughly 20 year draw average… >1% Washington draw is 100 year average.

I made the argument a number of years ago that Washington should move to a system like Idaho because the comparable increase in draw odds. However, Washington permits have consistently gone down hill since and made the difference that much more apparent.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Britt-dog on April 19, 2024, 04:49:48 PM
I am in for Sheep. ID is the best system by far for OIL tags. Relatively high tag numbers by species, applicant numbers are limited several ways. Making everyone choose between OIL or deer/elk/antelope is brilliant, it increases odds in both groups. Paying full price for tags up front is the big one, if it weren't for that, applicants would be 10X what they are currently. I wish WA would go back to that system but the revenue is more important.

I have drawn both moose and goat in ID as a Non Resident. In a lifetime of applying in WA I've only drawn goat. I'll probably never see a Moose or sheep tag in WA, but odds are high I'll pull that sheep tag in ID.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 19, 2024, 05:10:24 PM
I am in for Sheep. ID is the best system by far for OIL tags. Relatively high tag numbers by species, applicant numbers are limited several ways. Making everyone choose between OIL or deer/elk/antelope is brilliant, it increases odds in both groups. Paying full price for tags up front is the big one, if it weren't for that, applicants would be 10X what they are currently. I wish WA would go back to that system but the revenue is more important.

I have drawn both moose and goat in ID as a Non Resident. In a lifetime of applying in WA I've only drawn goat. I'll probably never see a Moose or sheep tag in WA, but odds are high I'll pull that sheep tag in ID.

I’ll prob never put in for an elk draw in my life in Idaho. Figure after I draw moose I’ll focus on sheep (unit 11), then goat, not positive on that unit choice yet. I say this hoping 4 yrs from now I’m putting in for elk 😂
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 19, 2024, 06:13:10 PM
Im not sure how idahos moose draws can even be compared to WA. There are very desireable moose areas in idaho with 5 tags and 46 apps. Another has 5 tags and 65 apps. Probably the highest odds moose hunt in WA has 4 tags and 768 apps.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 19, 2024, 06:25:45 PM
Im not sure how idahos moose draws can even be compared to WA. There are very desireable moose areas in idaho with 5 tags and 46 apps. Another has 5 tags and 65 apps. Probably the highest odds moose hunt in WA has 4 tags and 768 apps.

Those draw odds are close to our best sheep unit odds 🤷🏻‍♂️😂
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: boneaddict on April 20, 2024, 08:43:43 AM
I am in for Sheep. ID is the best system by far for OIL tags. Relatively high tag numbers by species, applicant numbers are limited several ways. Making everyone choose between OIL or deer/elk/antelope is brilliant, it increases odds in both groups. Paying full price for tags up front is the big one, if it weren't for that, applicants would be 10X what they are currently. I wish WA would go back to that system but the revenue is more important.

I have drawn both moose and goat in ID as a Non Resident. In a lifetime of applying in WA I've only drawn goat. I'll probably never see a Moose or sheep tag in WA, but odds are high I'll pull that sheep tag in ID.

Very few seem to get this....
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 20, 2024, 09:01:10 AM
I am in for Sheep. ID is the best system by far for OIL tags. Relatively high tag numbers by species, applicant numbers are limited several ways. Making everyone choose between OIL or deer/elk/antelope is brilliant, it increases odds in both groups. Paying full price for tags up front is the big one, if it weren't for that, applicants would be 10X what they are currently. I wish WA would go back to that system but the revenue is more important.

I have drawn both moose and goat in ID as a Non Resident. In a lifetime of applying in WA I've only drawn goat. I'll probably never see a Moose or sheep tag in WA, but odds are high I'll pull that sheep tag in ID.

Very few seem to get this....

Now your getting me pumped to go put out trail cams for the moose tag I’m going to draw 😂😎
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Britt-dog on April 21, 2024, 09:23:56 PM
Im not sure how idahos moose draws can even be compared to WA. There are very desireable moose areas in idaho with 5 tags and 46 apps. Another has 5 tags and 65 apps. Probably the highest odds moose hunt in WA has 4 tags and 768 apps.

I drew moose in 2005. There were seven tags in my unit and like nine applicants. Believe it or not in the recent past Idaho would regularly have left over Moose tags that went to a second draw. Those days are long since over.  :(
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 21, 2024, 09:40:35 PM
Im not sure how idahos moose draws can even be compared to WA. There are very desireable moose areas in idaho with 5 tags and 46 apps. Another has 5 tags and 65 apps. Probably the highest odds moose hunt in WA has 4 tags and 768 apps.

I drew moose in 2005. There were seven tags in my unit and like nine applicants. Believe it or not in the recent past Idaho would regularly have left over Moose tags that went to a second draw. Those days are long since over.  :(

That’s crazy! Idaho has exploded with people the last couple years.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Machias on April 22, 2024, 02:10:10 PM
Got my moose tag on year #3 and my wife drew a moose tag her first year applying.  One of us has drawn an extra whitetail does tag every year for the past 5 years and last year we both drew an extra  whitetail doe tag.

Hoping yr 3 is my lucky number. Same unit you got, by back yard lol…

I'm pulling for you!!!
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Fletch on April 22, 2024, 02:54:57 PM
Im in for moose.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: boneaddict on April 26, 2024, 09:48:47 AM
Im in for moose.

By the time you draw, the only help I'll be able to give you is to drink all of your Crown
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: raydog on April 26, 2024, 10:06:01 AM
Im in for moose.

By the time you draw, the only help I'll be able to give you is to drink all of your Crown
What a Pal!
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Halo on April 29, 2024, 02:43:26 PM
After drawing moose last year I'm in for sheep but I'm pretty sure I burned up all my luck.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 29, 2024, 04:59:41 PM
Im in for moose.

By the time you draw, the only help I'll be able to give you is to drink all of your Crown

😂😂😂
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 29, 2024, 05:01:57 PM
After drawing moose last year I'm in for sheep but I'm pretty sure I burned up all my luck.

It’s hard for me to put in for moose over sheep, but I did. I drool over some of the sheep hunting in Idaho. The goat hunting isn’t that bad either. I’d be pretty stoked to draw the 7/9 goat tag but that 11 sheep tag is like winning the lottery.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: CJ1962 on April 29, 2024, 07:28:38 PM
In for Sheep
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: go4steelhd on April 29, 2024, 07:32:10 PM
I switched it up this year and put in for moose. 🫎 I’m definitely going to draw this year  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: time2hunt on April 30, 2024, 02:22:46 PM
Almost brain fart but just got in for goat.


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Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on April 30, 2024, 04:32:30 PM
Almost brain fart but just got in for goat.


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Cutting it close 😎
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on April 30, 2024, 05:11:43 PM
Kids in for moose.  I mixed it up and put in for sheep this year.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on May 01, 2024, 08:21:13 AM
And now we wait.  I’m gonna guess May 17th this year.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: millerwheeler on May 01, 2024, 10:37:05 AM
And now we wait.  I’m gonna guess May 17th this year.


At least we know it’s a pretty dang quick process ! I’m going 16th
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on May 01, 2024, 11:13:22 AM
And now we wait.  I’m gonna guess May 17th this year.


At least we know it’s a pretty dang quick process ! I’m going 16th

I’ll be optimistic and say the 15th
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: time2hunt on May 01, 2024, 11:29:18 AM
I’ll be pessimistic and say the 23rd right before Washingtons due.


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Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: go4steelhd on May 01, 2024, 11:36:44 AM
They have been pretty consistent for a few years. I'm going to say June 6th, they are due for some sort of hang up :tup:
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Machias on May 02, 2024, 09:19:23 AM
Good luck everyone!!!!
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Halo on May 02, 2024, 11:45:33 AM
Last year results were Friday the 19th so I'm hoping for Friday the 17th this year.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: luvmystang67 on May 02, 2024, 12:42:23 PM
I have made my annual donation to the state's moose draw...

Used to be pretty excited about drawing... but I seem to see fewer and fewer moose while elk hunting every year and my enthusiasm is waning.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on May 02, 2024, 01:12:11 PM
While we are guessing at draw results date I will just chime in and say anything later than next Monday is too late, it’s a simple draw with no points, no paper applications, and a very limited number of tags, it simply shouldn’t take any more than 1 week.


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Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on May 03, 2024, 02:17:58 PM
I have made my annual donation to the state's moose draw...

Used to be pretty excited about drawing... but I seem to see fewer and fewer moose while elk hunting every year and my enthusiasm is waning.

I’ve DEFINITELY noticed fewer moose in the last three yrs. I personally don’t think it’s just wolves, but don’t have an answer. Areas that I use to see quite a few have been void. The reason I don’t think it’s wolves are the numbers of trail cams I have out year round and have yet to see one on camera. Positive, elk numbers are up in my area.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on May 03, 2024, 04:57:49 PM
I have made my annual donation to the state's moose draw...

Used to be pretty excited about drawing... but I seem to see fewer and fewer moose while elk hunting every year and my enthusiasm is waning.

I’ve DEFINITELY noticed fewer moose in the last three yrs. I personally don’t think it’s just wolves, but don’t have an answer. Areas that I use to see quite a few have been void. The reason I don’t think it’s wolves are the numbers of trail cams I have out year round and have yet to see one on camera. Positive, elk numbers are up in my area.
According to IDFG it’s warmer winters due to climate change allowing winter ticks to infest the moose. I personally think it is wolves because moose in the south hills of Idaho, Nevada, Utah, and Colorado have continued to thrive. The common theme with all of those places is a lack of wolves while moose north of the snake river, and in Montana and Wyoming and Washington continue to struggle with declining moose populations


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Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: kentrek on May 08, 2024, 12:34:33 PM
Results are posting, hopefully some of you got lucky !
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on May 08, 2024, 12:38:57 PM
Just got my rejection on the sheep tag.  Maybe my son will get lucky on the Moose.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Feathernfurr on May 08, 2024, 12:53:02 PM
Rejected
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on May 08, 2024, 01:02:30 PM
Son was rejected for Moose.

Good luck to the rest of you, hopefully some folks draw.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: time2hunt on May 08, 2024, 01:06:48 PM
Looks like I will be in 18 chasing goats


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Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on May 08, 2024, 01:08:13 PM
I’m a reject again…

How long does it usually take to get my money back 😂 I should know this lol.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on May 08, 2024, 01:19:38 PM
No sheep tag for me or my 9 year old. I have got to figure out what to do to get off of the blacklist I’m obviously on. I also got my son on it by arguing with the ladies at the SW regional office when they tried to tell me he wasn’t eligible to apply


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Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: The scout on May 08, 2024, 01:48:23 PM
No moose for me
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: High Climber on May 08, 2024, 02:04:36 PM
Looks like I will be in 18 chasing goats


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Congrats ! 👍
No moose tag for me
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Sneaky Squirrel on May 08, 2024, 02:23:43 PM
Looks like I will be in 18 chasing goats


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That is awesome! I spent a few weeks in that country hunting last year and seen plenty of goats! Should be a blast!
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Fletch on May 08, 2024, 02:28:36 PM
Not Selected  >:(
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: blumtnelkndeer on May 08, 2024, 03:42:35 PM
not selected for moose 
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Halo on May 08, 2024, 03:50:02 PM
No sheep tag in Idaho for me this year. I can't complain after last years moose tag though.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Britt-dog on May 08, 2024, 05:47:31 PM
No Sheep tag for me.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: bearpaw on May 09, 2024, 05:15:52 AM
Looks like I will be in 18 chasing goats


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congratulations :tup:
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: huntnnw on May 09, 2024, 05:42:44 AM
Looks like I will be in 18 chasing goats


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that should be fun. I have seen lotta goats in there.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: tarbabyone on May 12, 2024, 07:06:03 AM
I am an Idaho resident who left Washington state five years ago.  I put in for my second time this year and got the notice on May 8th that I had been drawn for one of the Controlled Moose Hunts in area 1-1.  The application fees are pretty reasonable for a resident especially when you look at the price for gas to scout the area.  Had I been moving into Washington instead of Idaho I would not have bothered putting in.  You have the point system there and at my age I would never have gotten drawn.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: idaho guy on May 13, 2024, 02:17:06 PM
What makes Idaho "good" is the amount of tags versus applicants rather than the system - unless you're the type that is only really focused on one species.  In Idaho your odds will rarely improve over time. Most of the time they will go down as applicants increase, and you're locked in at 0% for the other species.

I too hate preference point systems, but don't mind bonus points since you still have a chance regardless of where you're at.

I'd rather take a slim chance at all than a small chance at one.  :twocents:

And for what it's worth, I'm in for moose.  :tup:
Idaho does have more tags - but I prefer their system. Every hunter in my entire family has drawn moose tags.

Last years Idaho moose tags (517) divided by moose applicants (7384) = overall 7% of applicants getting a moose tag.

There were close to 75,000 apps for elk tags alone last year.

You start letting E/D/A people put in for M/S/G...you absolutely turn the system into less than 1% of applicants getting a moose tag which means the vast majority of folks will never draw in their hunting lifetimes.

But its all a game of trade-offs...<1% chance at moose is not 0...and you can also draw some E/D/A tags along the way.

Great breakdown.  This why I support the current system 100%.
   

x3 Idaho is really the only state putting hunters ahead of dollars. You open it up for a free for all and everyone will put in for everything. Odds plummet for all species. It took me 20 years to draw my moose tag and the year I drew odds were 60 percent lol. If you really want a moose tag put in for less desirable tags and you will draw. I like that you specifically have to commit to one draw that you really want. There are years where some goat and sheep tags have double digit odds. I pray Idaho never changes -there is enough states where people can have "fun" entering 30 draws at .01 percent odds. Weird that my goat application said not selected this year ha ha I had been planning my hunt for weeks
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: kentrek on May 13, 2024, 02:42:32 PM
Speaking of putting hunters above dollars....does anyone understand why idaho doesn't refund the not selected tag money like all the other states?? I paid them alot of money in processing fees and it seems they are the slowest processing state out there  :dunno:



Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on June 02, 2024, 12:19:32 PM
There is a moose tag available in hunt area 27.  Looks like it’s been many years since a tag was filled, but if anyone wants a second chance there it is.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: CJ1962 on June 02, 2024, 08:06:44 PM
For those of us that didn't draw, has anyone gotten there money back yet?
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on June 02, 2024, 09:19:22 PM
For those of us that didn't draw, has anyone gotten there money back yet?

From what I’ve been told they like to hold it until beginning of July to get that little extra interest on it.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on June 03, 2024, 11:46:11 AM
I think historically it gets refunded in late June.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: go4steelhd on June 03, 2024, 12:11:32 PM
From the Oil regs page 38:

Individual controlled hunt draw results will be emailed to those who provide a valid email address on their profile. Unsuccessful applicants will receive a refund of the tags fees submitted at time of application. Applications submitted online or over the phone will receive a credit on the card used to submit the controlled hunt application. All other applicants will receive a refund check by July 1. If you do not receive one of these by July 1, please call Fish and Game at 208-334-3700, or write to P.O. Box 25, Boise, ID 83707.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on June 03, 2024, 04:38:40 PM
I’d be shocked if we don’t see refunds this week


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Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: idaho guy on June 03, 2024, 08:40:49 PM
There is a moose tag available in hunt area 27.  Looks like it’s been many years since a tag was filled, but if anyone wants a second chance there it is.
 

no thanks 😂 i didnt even like packing my mule deer out of that unit. I did not even know they had moose tags in there but I dont want one!
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: time2hunt on June 04, 2024, 12:19:27 PM
They just issued my tag today. So refunds should be coming


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Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: trophyhunt on June 04, 2024, 12:54:23 PM
When is your season?
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Machias on June 04, 2024, 01:21:04 PM
There is a moose tag available in hunt area 27.  Looks like it’s been many years since a tag was filled, but if anyone wants a second chance there it is.
 

no thanks 😂 i didnt even like packing my mule deer out of that unit. I did not even know they had moose tags in there but I dont want one!

Yikes that is saying something!!!!  :)
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: time2hunt on June 04, 2024, 02:09:55 PM
When is your season?
Aug 30th - Nov 12th
Plan is a couple trips in off the jet boat. Then take the horse in off the top Mid October


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Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: trophyhunt on June 04, 2024, 02:21:02 PM
When is your season?
Aug 30th - Nov 12th
Plan is a couple trips in off the jet boat. Then take the horse in off the top Mid October


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How fun!!! I’m jealous!  Take lots of picks!
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: time2hunt on June 04, 2024, 03:17:14 PM



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Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on June 06, 2024, 10:35:26 PM
I got my refund today, I’m close to Boise though so I’m guessing the rest of you will get yours tomorrow


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Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: kentrek on June 07, 2024, 03:43:37 PM
No refunds here
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on June 08, 2024, 09:04:54 PM
Haven’t seen mine yet either.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Fletch on June 12, 2024, 01:01:54 PM
Still no refund...
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on June 12, 2024, 01:13:46 PM
still nothing for me either.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: kentrek on June 12, 2024, 01:44:49 PM
Nothing here either
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on June 14, 2024, 09:30:22 AM
I got my refund this morning…
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: Machias on June 14, 2024, 02:56:46 PM
I got my refund this morning…

I was really hoping you were going to draw a tag!   :(
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on June 14, 2024, 07:47:56 PM
I got one of the two, but the second one hasn’t showed up yet.
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: kentrek on June 16, 2024, 02:44:22 PM
Refund showed today, always a nice little boost to the hunting account
Title: Re: Idaho moose, sheep, mountain goat
Post by: TeacherMan on June 16, 2024, 07:06:16 PM
I got my refund this morning…

I was really hoping you were going to draw a tag!   :(

It will happen. I’m working for IDFW right now too so I’m lucky and getting to spend everyday in the field. It’s like I’m being paid to scout 😂
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