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Title: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: Antlershed on May 06, 2024, 02:27:46 PM
Guess all the people complaining about paper regs got their way. They will probably be the same ones complaining about why we don’t have results the first week of June.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 06, 2024, 02:33:52 PM
I don't have a problem with this. It they could get the regs out earlier, there wouldn't be such a crunch, especially for us old guys who read slowly!
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: westside bull on May 06, 2024, 02:49:43 PM
Guess all the people complaining about paper regs got their way. They will probably be the same ones complaining about why we don’t have results the first week of June.  :twocents:
Do they have paper regs when they put in for other states I doubt it. And yes these same people will  be complaining when its taking to long for the results I totally agree!
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: bobcat on May 06, 2024, 02:52:41 PM
At least it's still two days earlier than it was last year.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: jackelope on May 06, 2024, 03:06:58 PM
I don't have a problem with this. It they could get the regs out earlier, there wouldn't be such a crunch, especially for us old guys who read slowly!

The regs have been out for a while now. A couple weeks I think?
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: asmith on May 06, 2024, 03:19:26 PM
Doesnt matter how things play out.  Someone, somewhere will always find something to complain about.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: trophyhunt on May 06, 2024, 03:23:13 PM
Guess all the people complaining about paper regs got their way. They will probably be the same ones complaining about why we don’t have results the first week of June.  :twocents:
Do they have paper regs when they put in for other states I doubt it. And yes these same people will  be complaining when its taking to long for the results I totally agree!
:yeah:  this is so stupid, once again the minority affect the majority.  Frickin babies.  Great point on the out of state apps, not once have I seen paper regulations for Wy, AZ, ID when I’ve applied, some people just can’t help themselves!
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: millerwheeler on May 06, 2024, 03:55:42 PM
Guess all the people complaining about paper regs got their way. They will probably be the same ones complaining about why we don’t have results the first week of June.  :twocents:
Do they have paper regs when they put in for other states I doubt it. And yes these same people will  be complaining when its taking to long for the results I totally agree!
:yeah:  this is so stupid, once again the minority affect the majority.  Frickin babies.  Great point on the out of state apps, not once have I seen paper regulations for Wy, AZ, ID when I’ve applied, some people just can’t help themselves!



80% of hunt wa is just the complain train , I like paper too but regs are out online . Go to your local library and print them if you can’t wait. Just seams every post every subject anymore turns into   Fit from one group or another
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: KNOPHISH on May 06, 2024, 04:07:33 PM
I think most of us know what hunts we’re putting in for, OIL are so few and it lists them right on the site when applying. I think I did all mine in about 10 minutes. It’s not that hard. :dunno: sounds like a money grab.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: fishngamereaper on May 06, 2024, 04:28:47 PM
The odds suck so bad anyway you're better off just randomly selecting options... doing math and looking at permits/ points to draw is useless.

Now we gotta wait till the end of June ...if where lucky for a return on our investment...

 :bdid:
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: bobcat on May 06, 2024, 04:53:38 PM
It's possible that even with the application deadline being a week later, the drawing could still happen at the same time as it would have without the one week extension. People just need to wait and see, and then whine about it when the time comes. They could easily get it done 3 weeks from the deadline, which would put drawing results out on June 12.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: fishngamereaper on May 06, 2024, 05:00:09 PM
It's possible that even with the application deadline being a week later, the drawing could still happen at the same time as it would have without the one week extension. People just need to wait and see, and then whine about it when the time comes. They could easily get it done 3 weeks from the deadline, which would put drawing results out on June 12.

Wait
So it was ok to whine about no paper regs thus creating an extension, but we can't whine about the extension possibly creating draw delays...

My feelings matter to...

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: millerwheeler on May 06, 2024, 05:04:03 PM
It's possible that even with the application deadline being a week later, the drawing could still happen at the same time as it would have without the one week extension. People just need to wait and see, and then whine about it when the time comes. They could easily get it done 3 weeks from the deadline, which would put drawing results out on June 12.

Wait
So it was ok to whine about no paper regs thus creating an extension, but we can't whine about the extension possibly creating draw delays...

My feelings matter to...

 :chuckle:

Nobody ;).  But they’ll be out when there out then we’ll
Have another 50 threads of people calling the wambulance cause they didn’t get there tag lol
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: westside bull on May 06, 2024, 05:15:01 PM
Go buy a computer and read the regs online it's the world we live in. If you don't have a computer go to friends place or library that has one! Deadlines are deadlines!
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: bobcat on May 06, 2024, 05:15:43 PM
I agree there was no need to change the deadline, and I'm just hoping it doesn't mean results will be a week later.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: jstone on May 06, 2024, 05:42:31 PM
Come on are you kidding me. If you can’t get it done in a month your out. Come on people it’s not that hard. Give us two weeks . 
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: TeacherMan on May 06, 2024, 05:59:09 PM
Personally I know the permits I put in for way before I ever see the regs. I don’t know many people who don’t day dream about these permits for months before they even get the chance to apply. People know what they want…

Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: CarbonHunter on May 06, 2024, 06:12:12 PM
The people complaining most likely are not people who hunt out of state.

They most likely are the old timers who are waiting for the regs so they can cut out the application and mail in their choices.

The state could have avoided all of this if they would have told those complaining via the telegraph that they are required to go online to submit their application.

These people probably tell everyone how impressed they are after reading the stock charts in the Sunday paper that they “can’t believe how many apples a company must have sold to be worth as much as Apple.”
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: rtspring on May 06, 2024, 06:30:23 PM
I hear a bunch of cry babies.  Some people like paper regs.    What does it matter, paper, online? Your not gonna draw anyways!!!   Ha ha suckers. 
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: millerwheeler on May 06, 2024, 07:06:03 PM
The people complaining most likely are not people who hunt out of state.

They most likely are the old timers who are waiting for the regs so they can cut out the application and mail in their choices.

The state could have avoided all of this if they would have told those complaining via the telegraph that they are required to go online to submit their application.

These people probably tell everyone how impressed they are after reading the stock charts in the Sunday paper that they “can’t believe how many apples a company must have sold to be worth as much as Apple.”

There is no mail in anymore and I don’t think u can even call them in . A deadline is what it is. All this pandering to folks is why so many things are so screwed up.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: Caseyd on May 06, 2024, 07:16:24 PM
It’s the state extending because the money wasn’t there
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: hunter399 on May 06, 2024, 07:18:06 PM
It’s the state extending because the money wasn’t there

Yup,yup.

Gotta catch a few more dollars.

It probably fits better than conservation starts here.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: Tenkara on May 06, 2024, 07:21:28 PM
The people complaining most likely are not people who hunt out of state.

They most likely are the old timers who are waiting for the regs so they can cut out the application and mail in their choices.

The state could have avoided all of this if they would have told those complaining via the telegraph that they are required to go online to submit their application.

These people probably tell everyone how impressed they are after reading the stock charts in the Sunday paper that they “can’t believe how many apples a company must have sold to be worth as much as Apple.”

There is no mail in anymore and I don’t think u can even call them in . A deadline is what it is. All this pandering to folks is why so many things are so screwed up.
If they are going to print paper regs they should be out atleast two weeks before the deadline.  If not , what's the point? And yes , I put in for other states.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: hunter399 on May 06, 2024, 07:38:51 PM
They should have the common sense not to do rule changes before printing and have a deadline for rule changes.
Ohh ya ,they do,they just can't keep them .

Just so desperate to screw cougar season,that they screw everything else up.

Honestly if they lose some permit money ,serves them right.
Hate to be harsh,truth isn't always smiles and rainbows.

Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: millerwheeler on May 06, 2024, 09:29:17 PM
The people complaining most likely are not people who hunt out of state.

They most likely are the old timers who are waiting for the regs so they can cut out the application and mail in their choices.

The state could have avoided all of this if they would have told those complaining via the telegraph that they are required to go online to submit their application.

These people probably tell everyone how impressed they are after reading the stock charts in the Sunday paper that they “can’t believe how many apples a company must have sold to be worth as much as Apple.”

There is no mail in anymore and I don’t think u can even call them in . A deadline is what it is. All this pandering to folks is why so many things are so screwed up.
If they are going to print paper regs they should be out atleast two weeks before the deadline.  If not , what's the point? And yes , I put in for other states.


Give it 2 to 4 more years there not gonna print them anymore , you’ll just go online fully
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: callturner on May 07, 2024, 07:11:24 AM
The people complaining most likely are not people who hunt out of state.

They most likely are the old timers who are waiting for the regs so they can cut out the application and mail in their choices.

The state could have avoided all of this if they would have told those complaining via the telegraph that they are required to go online to submit their application.

These people probably tell everyone how impressed they are after reading the stock charts in the Sunday paper that they “can’t believe how many apples a company must have sold to be worth as much as Apple.”
actually I do complain because I do hunt out of state. it is a lot easier to see if I'm going to waste my time in Washington if they actually had something before we're halfway to summer. Have you ever noticed that states like Montana and Idaho already have paper copies out right after the first of the year so you can put in for their hunts.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: gee_unit360 on May 07, 2024, 07:41:16 AM
Regardless whether they go paper Regs or online they need to come out earlier. I’m sure everyone wants a set of paper Regs in the glove box when you don’t have service at camp or packed in somewhere and want to look something up. It shouldn’t be hard to have the Regs out earlier and to have a paper option with as much money as they’re making off us.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: Moose Master on May 07, 2024, 08:11:25 AM
Evidence show that those that believe receive.  Every draw whether here or out of State is the classic "Somewhere over the rainbow "    Yes it would be nice to have the regs but I just print them up. More gripping just leads to a worst day and disappointment. 
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: fishngamereaper on May 07, 2024, 08:27:07 AM
It not just the extension that fuels the distain and triggers venting...

I'm just looking for DFW to do something right for a change...

To much to ask...?
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: steeleywhopper on May 07, 2024, 08:35:48 AM
Evidence show that those that believe receive.  Every draw whether here or out of State is the classic "Somewhere over the rainbow "    Yes it would be nice to have the regs but I just print them up. More gripping just leads to a worst day and disappointment.

No need to gripe to feel it, WDFW does nothing but disappoint.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: bornhunter on May 07, 2024, 08:56:56 AM
Remember folks they want to do away with hunting in this state. The more frustrating they make things, the more people are going to throw up their hands and say the heck with it.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: huntnphool on May 07, 2024, 02:17:15 PM
I don't have a problem with this. It they could get the regs out earlier, there wouldn't be such a crunch, especially for us old guys who read slowly!

The regs have been out for a while now. A couple weeks I think?

 Exactly!

 My guess is this has more to do with sales revenue being lower than expected, and zero to do with WDFW listening to hunters! :twocents:

 Occam’s Razor
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: hunter399 on May 07, 2024, 06:25:38 PM
Getting ready to throw some money in the toilet right now.
Piss it to the wind on Not Selected.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: Bob33 on May 07, 2024, 06:28:57 PM
I don't have a problem with this. It they could get the regs out earlier, there wouldn't be such a crunch, especially for us old guys who read slowly!
Three weeks ago from today.

The regs have been out for a while now. A couple weeks I think?
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: CarbonHunter on May 07, 2024, 06:33:59 PM
Heck I just deposited my refund from Montana. They closed the submission for the draw (4/1), conducted the draw (4/15) and wrote my refund check (4/22) in just 3 weeks. All done without any paper regs.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: westside bull on May 07, 2024, 06:40:45 PM
Heck I just deposited my refund from Montana. They closed the submission for the draw (4/1), conducted the draw (4/15) and wrote my refund check (4/22) in just 3 weeks. All done without any paper regs.
Yes Montana has it down.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: raydog on May 07, 2024, 07:03:33 PM
Folks sure are in a hurry to get that "Not Selected" screen
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: jackelope on May 07, 2024, 07:38:49 PM
Not sure why it’s driving me a little crazy that there are a bunch of people complaining online about the paper regs not being available but the online regs have been out for, I think, a couple weeks.

I’ve had little to no use for paper regs for years. I always have a copy or 3 on hand but I’ve definitely not used them for special permit applications at all in the last 10 years at least.

Worst comes to worst you could always print them….
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: Brandobando on May 07, 2024, 07:43:17 PM
The lady at the customer service desk at Bass Pro told me yesterday that they weren’t getting this years paper regs because they’re the same as last year  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: baker5150 on May 08, 2024, 07:15:47 AM
Not sure why it’s driving me a little crazy that there are a bunch of people complaining online about the paper regs not being available but the online regs have been out for, I think, a couple weeks.

I’ve had little to no use for paper regs for years. I always have a copy or 3 on hand but I’ve definitely not used them for special permit applications at all in the last 10 years at least.

Worst comes to worst you could always print them….

I was recently wondering why they still print paper regs. 

The cost savings would have to be a pretty large number.  (although the ads probably cover a lot of the cost)

We should ask old Jay if he knows the carbon footprint those paper regs have.... :o
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: JWBINX on May 08, 2024, 07:35:16 AM
Not sure why it’s driving me a little crazy that there are a bunch of people complaining online about the paper regs not being available but the online regs have been out for, I think, a couple weeks.

I’ve had little to no use for paper regs for years. I always have a copy or 3 on hand but I’ve definitely not used them for special permit applications at all in the last 10 years at least.

Worst comes to worst you could always print them….

I agree, using the online regs are no problem at all and it will be the way we look at them in future.
However, I still like to have the paper copies to read in spots my phone doesn't work or I have no computer.
I've always done a bit of scribbling for reference from year to year. It's just sad that WDFW can't get it together!
I still read books and not on a Kindle.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: JWBINX on May 08, 2024, 07:38:01 AM
The lady at the customer service desk at Bass Pro told me yesterday that they weren’t getting this years paper regs because they’re the same as last year  :rolleyes:

The lady at Bass pro obviously knows nothing about hunting and is just a drone at a sub par outdoor store!
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: raydog on May 08, 2024, 08:14:08 AM
The lady at the customer service desk at Bass Pro told me yesterday that they weren’t getting this years paper regs because they’re the same as last year  :rolleyes:

The lady at Bass pro obviously knows nothing about hunting and is just a drone at a sub par outdoor store!

Calling bass pro sub par is giving them too much credit  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: millerwheeler on May 08, 2024, 08:20:47 AM
For all the folks who say what about when I have no service , download them too your phone. Don’t need service to look at them then…… pretty easy
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: yogru on May 08, 2024, 09:35:28 AM
Dad (71) is still calling around to all the stores asking when they are getting the Regs in.  I talk to him frequently and he knows digital versions exist (and that I've already got everything done with them), but he's always done it one way for however many decades and won't change that now. 

I sent him a link about the deadline extension, and got back "Wow they finally did something smart and let people see the regs in writing before they have to apply". 

Doesn't make much difference to me, but people are creatures of habit.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: RC on May 08, 2024, 10:42:59 AM
Dad (71) is still calling around to all the stores asking when they are getting the Regs in.  I talk to him frequently and he knows digital versions exist (and that I've already got everything done with them), but he's always done it one way for however many decades and won't change that now. 

I sent him a link about the deadline extension, and got back "Wow they finally did something smart and let people see the regs in writing before they have to apply". 

Doesn't make much difference to me, but people are creatures of habit.

My dad is the same way, so I just printed out all the special permit pages for deer and elk.  If printed front and back, it's about 10 pages and has all the info he needs to make his picks.  If he has any questions, I just have him call me if he needs any other info. 
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: gee_unit360 on May 08, 2024, 01:13:09 PM
Nice! They delayed special permit deadline, now we wait even longer for the results that already take way too long. WDFW needs to do a better job all around the board. They’re failing this state.
Title: Re: Special Permit Deadline Extended
Post by: snit on May 10, 2024, 01:47:37 PM
As of noon in the Wenatchee Valley (5/10), no printed regs have been delivered to the usual license dealers. I called 3 locations, and they haven't seen any yet.

I can and probably will utilize the online regs, but I prefer to review with a set of paper regs, then I save the regs for several years as reference material. I don't just apply for the same hunts yearly as some do, plus this year I'm changing disciplines so there's an entirely new amount of research to be done between the available hunts vs timing. Especially to coordinate potential WA hunts with out-of-state trips.

WDFW continues to be a Clown Show, starting at the top... (Jaybo and the "Commie-mission"...er, call it the bottom of the gutpile).
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