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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: WoolSocks on May 11, 2024, 07:49:56 PM
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Polling the audience. What’s your most-used caliber for big game, and why? If you had a chance to replace with something new, would you switch calibers?
I hear lots of love for the 6.5CM and the three new PRC’s. Wondering if they are really that popular, or if most folks would just reach for something familiar like a 30-06 or 300win if they were in the market for a new rifle.
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308, all those Army snipers can’t be wrong.
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My go to
270WSM Kimber mountain ascent
Or
7 rem mag Christianson ridgeline
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Something in the .284 caliber
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280AI, 145LRX @ 3090. It simply works :tup:
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Either a 300 WSM or a 300 WM
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Either a 300 WSM or a 300 WM
Two flat shooting, knock ‘em down rounds. Spot on TS :tup:
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375 Cheytac
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375 Cheytac
A bit overkill for all around? I think the OP is looking to make his hamburger after the shot, not during ;)
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If I had to choose one it would be a 30 cal starting at 30-06 or higher.
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As of late....our choice has been 300 wsm shooting 168grain Hammers (3100fps) and 180 grain Accubonds (3000fps). Both are super accurate and will kill anything in North America.
I also think 7-08, 6.5 creed or 6.5 prc would be great all around cartridges. Lower recoil and more manageable for most shooters.
Lot of very good cartridges on the market these days. Combine that with bullet technology and I'm not sure a guy could wrong with with any when paired with the right bullet. :tup: :tup:
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I’m old school. I like my .30-06 & 300 win mag. I’d like to get a synthetic .30-06 for the nasty days when I don’t want to bring the Enfield out.
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This is a question with 10000 answers. Everyone has had good and bad experiences on a number of calibers. Some will swear a 243 is fine for everything while others will say you need a 338. Just comes down to preference.
As for me, I’ve shot a 7mm the last 20 years and will continue to do so as long as I can.
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I have been using my .338 win mag for almost everything including deer, elk, moose, bear and many African animals since about 1988. It shoots great and I just feel comfortable with it. Confidence in your rifle means a lot. I have used a 270 and a 30-06 a little for deer
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I've settled on using two big game calibers: 257 Weatherby for antelope, and 300 WSM for everything else. Lots of good choices but I would pick one in the .270 to .30 caliber range.
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My .50 cal muzzy.
Then my 7mm mag.
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My vote is .300wm or 7mm mag
Covers all bases
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Interesting replies. There seems to be a few folks who like less-than-mainstream calibers. I haven’t seen the PRC’s come up once, though. Is it just the price of ammo?
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I own quite a few , but my faves are 300wsm and 6.5PRC - the 6.5PRC is a very impressive shooter
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If I was told tomorrow I could only have one hunting rifle the rest of my life, I would keep my Stainless Browning .338 win mag. Several others that would fit that role - 300 win mag,300 weatherby,7mm rem mag. I’m partial to having more gun than I need but, in my opinion .270 win should be the floor and go up from there. I’ll happily acknowledge there are great choices in the 6mm world, just not my ideal do everything rounds
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Hunted most my life with 30 06. But now favor my 7 mm 08?
Or 50 cal muzzy.
Although for my friends up coming moose hunt in possible griz country, I am packing a fully loaded KSG with slugs in one tube and Buck shot in the other. :chuckle:
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280AI, 145LRX @ 3090. It simply works :tup:
what is your 280 ai set up ?
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People get really passionate about this one. There really isn’t a greatest all around caliber because most of them have a lot of overlap. I’m of the opinion that one should decide on the rifle they want to carry first, then decide on a chambering. 6.5 creedmoor, .270, 30-06, .308, .300 mag, most of them all do the same thing.
I own a bunch of hunting rifles in various chamberings, but for an all purpose caliber, my own preference is the 30-06, it might be a little more than you need sometimes but it’s never inadequate. Ammo can be found nearly anywhere in a pinch(and usually affordable). Shoots “flat enough” for any hunting I’ll usually find myself doing, but won’t shatter your eardrums like a big magnum will.
Disclaimer: I don’t have fantasies of taking 700 yard shots on animals, don’t dial turrets on my hunting rifles, don’t own any flat brimmed hats and still wear a red and black wool shirt in the woods, so take my advice with a grain of salt.
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Either a 300 WSM or a 300 WM
Two flat shooting, knock ‘em down rounds. Spot on TS :tup:
300WM all day
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280AI, 145LRX @ 3090. It simply works :tup:
what is your 280 ai set up ?
RBros trued 700 action, fluted bolt, Timney trigger, McM Hunter edge fill (not the Hunters Edge), fluted #4 Broughton @ 24", with a Zeiss V4 4-16×44.
RL23 with Fed 210s
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It’s tough to beat the classic 7mm rem. Mag. in my opinion
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If I didn't have a 300 win mag already, I would have a 7mm rem mag in it's place
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I used .270 for everything for 35 years. Deer, elk, and bears were killed without issue. I also have 7mm08 that I’ve killed a couple deer and a few coyotes with, it’s a little lighter so as I get older it will get carried more.
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Taking into account Alaska and the lower 48 I’d say a .300 of some sort, mag, WSM, Ultra, really wouldn’t matter. Taking out AK I’d go with a .270, just AK when I didn’t leave it much a .338.
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Lower 48 I'm good with my 6.5x284.
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Lower 48 I'm good with my 6.5x284.
My man! The 6.5x284 holds a special place in my heart. I've got a 20" 6x284 barrel coming soon that I'm pretty excited about though.
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6.5mm Creed is my current do everything cartridge. Would not hesitate to shoot any NA big game animal with it. Bullet selection might vary. Just got back from shooting today. Didn't miss spotting a single impact from 250 to 615.
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6.5mm Creed is my current do everything cartridge. Would not hesitate to shoot any NA big game animal with it. Bullet selection might vary. Just got back from shooting today. Didn't miss spotting a single impact from 250 to 615.
The 6.5's are all very accurate and as long as you understand bullet construction and velocity you can get a lot done with them.
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.22 caliber
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.300 win, add a brake, done!
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I go back and forth between a 22" 30-06 with 180s at 2,700 and a 20" 308 with 165s at 2,700. Each has a Nightforce 3-10x42 SHV with a 4x Leupold in reserve.
Okie John
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7mm Mag works for me.
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308, all those Army snipers can’t be wrong.
"all those Army snipers" are only shooting 150 lb humans, not 600lb elk. And, just to be clear, they don't really get to "pick" their caliber, unless they're Spec Ops, and then none of those guys are shooting .308s.
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I own quite a few , but my faves are 300wsm and 6.5PRC - the 6.5PRC is a very impressive shooter
Another :tup: for 6.5 PRC here. Don't see the need for anything else at the moment. If I had a passed-down 300 or 7mm I'd probably stick with one of those as well.
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Hand loaded 30/06
With powders like Ramshot big game can get close to .300 win numbers.
Hard to beat a tikka t3x 30-06
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7mm Mag works for me.
Same. 180 berger
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The 6.5s are awesome but if I only had one it’d be in a 7mm cartridge. Use a 280AI the majority of the time but a 7mm rem mag, 7 SAUM, 280 REM, or even a 7mm-08 would work well. Might change if I was in Alaska and then would probably jump to the .300 WSM. Good thing you don’t have to pick just one.
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I Love my 7mm Rem. Mag.!!!
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Thos question is loaded as a 7 layer burrito from Taco Bell. I would say .300win, it will kill anything in North America. But a .270win or 30-06 will do the job with less recoil.
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For the last twenty years mine has been a 30-378 Weatherby, I picked up a .28 nosler a couple of years ago and like it but it hasn't been in my hands long enough to prove itself, every time I pull the trigger on the Weatherby animals fall over dead, sometimes while doing back flips
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Its a toss up between the .270win & 30-06 on which I've hunted with most. Been packing a .243 the last 10 or so years since my kids started hunting, which are now pretty much grown and I still carry the .243. None of the 3 have ever let me down, but I do believe the 7mm-08 just may be the one I'd choose to do it all over again with.
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:yeah:
Same. I have a 300 win mag, two 300 wsms, a 7mm mag, 30-06, and I still carry one of our 243s or the 6.5 a lot since they are so light. Killed a bear, a cougar, and several deer with a 243 so they all work
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I killed about the same number of big game animals between the 30-06 and 300 WM, from Alaska to the lower 48. If I have to pick one, I'll pick the 300 WM just because it's lighter for a small person who likes to walk and climb. As of late, I've been using the 6.5 CM for deer and antelope hunts and just like the other two calibers I mentioned, they go down in just one hit. So, pick your poison.
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A .30-06 can kill anything in North America. KISS principle.
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Lower 48 I'm good with my 6.5x284.
My man! The 6.5x284 holds a special place in my heart. I've got a 20" 6x284 barrel coming soon that I'm pretty excited about though.
Yeah love the caliber . 25ish years ago I saw a Cooper Excalibur in 6.5x285 on the cover of a Cabelas and fell in love . Knew that was my grail rifle . Fast forward 15ish years and I'm up the Rattlesnake with my rifle builder breaking in the 7mm he built me . He gets out a Cooper Excalibur in 6.5x284 and shoots a few rounds cross canyon then let's me . Needless to say, the wife wasn't impressed when I came home with 2 new rifles that day . :dunno:
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For me ....
270
7mm mag
308
Have been pretty good to me.
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I like my 270 Win. I've been shooting it for 40+ years. I've Killed deer, elk, pronghorn, and black bear with it.
My next runner up would be 300 win mag for elk and moose.
If you want an all-around caliber the 270 hands down is the one.
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Using a 300 wm now. Definitely going for a lower recoil caliber in my next rifle. 6.5 PRC is awfully tempting
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I’ve killed elk with a 22.250 but come on gentleman, an all around caliber, that is capable of effectively doing the job at hand for small to big game, has got to be in the 30 caliber class, yes? You have got to have something that will break/shatter bone to knock down a big boned critter (elk, moose, bear) with no doubt or hoping for a positive outcome.
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Thank you Wapati, finally someone said it. I took a 25-06 to Alaska and killed a Caribou at 350 and it was all the gun needed for that job. Had I decided to shoot a Grizzly or a Moose, not so much!
Rifles are tools and tools, like wrenches have specific jobs to do. Just like you wouldn't try to tighten a 1/2 inch nut with a 5/8 wrench, why shoot a deer with a 375 H&H when a 243 or a 25-06 would suffice?
Plus, has anyone ever seen a gun safe that held only one rifle. There's a reason why even the small safes have a half a dozen slots or more.
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30 caliber isn't very specific. Are you talking 30-30? 300 Ultra? Something in between?
Tell me what a 308 or 30-06 will do that a 280AI/7RM won't. And I have and like my 308 so I'm not bashing them.
My deer and elk from <50 to 510 thought the AI did quite well with the 145 LRX.
Blanket answer 30 cal, implying it does better than everything else, nope. Bullet construction matters, along with speed and weight, shootability, accuracy....
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Hmmm. It's almost like with improved bullets and loadings, even whole new cartridges, there are a lot of good all-around candidates. Who knew?
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My main rifle that I have used on Coyotes, Deer, Bear, Elk, Antelope, Moose, Caribou, Goat has been a .300 Weatherby with 165 gr bullets. Never has failed me. I don't like recoil so always have a brake that turns the recoil into that of a .243.
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Now BKMFR, you been holdin out info on me! 300 Weatherby is my first choice also. I’ve always shot 180 gr bullets. But since I don’t hunt deer or elk on purpose anymore, and am still experimenting killing stuff with my .280, I’m gonna turn my 300 into a dedicated wolf gun. Got a new scope and I also picked up some 165 gr bullets to try. I need to get on it.
I have been thinking, when time permits, I want to question you on shootin bears. As I’m sure you have come up with a proven system.
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Used a 22-250 on a whitetail at 240 yards (in idaho) did the trick in one shot, wish we could use them on deer in wa
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An old timer once told me: “the best way to hunt whitetails, is with rat poison”.
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I’ve been using a 30-06 pretty much exclusively for the last five years and I live and hunt in Alaska now.
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7mm Rem.
Can load lighter weight bullets for smaller game and even the 165gr+ that everyone seems to think you have to have fired out of the 30 cals. :rolleyes:
I’ve never needed more than one bullet fired from my 7mm, and I’ve shot more than a couple decent critters in my life! :twocents:
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.300 wm kills everything all the time
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.300 wm kills everything all the time
I dont think you even have to pull the trigger. Just point it at them and it scares them to death! :chuckle:
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Semi surprised I haven’t seen anyone say .300 PRC…
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7mm Rem.
Can load lighter weight bullets for smaller game and even the 165gr+ that everyone seems to think you have to have fired out of the 30 cals. :rolleyes:
I’ve never needed more than one bullet fired from my 7mm, and I’ve shot more than a couple decent critters in my life! :twocents:
I agree with all of your statement.
7mm mag is the most underrated older cartridge.
With all the fancy bullets and powder it can really be loaded up.
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I like the analogy of using properly sized wrenches to get the job done correctly. Myself, I prefer ViseGrips. Therefore, 30/06 for everything
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Okay okay, one of those guys. I guess I should have known someone would go with the vise grip or crescent wrench analogy. I was really just trying to come up with an excuse to have a few more rifles.
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...I was really just trying to come up with an excuse to have a few more rifles.
In that case... 6.5 PRC, 270, 280, 280AI, 7mm mags (any of them), 308, 30-06, 300 mags (any of them), 325 WSM, 338 mags... to name a few.
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Thinking about converting the 6.5 CM to a 6 CM to get a few hundred FPS more out of it. 7” less drop at 500 with it. That with 108 ELD-M’s and a .223 with 77gr TMK’s for everything.
“Big boned animals” is funny.
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Thinking about converting the 6.5 CM to a 6 CM to get a few hundred FPS more out of it. 7” less drop at 500 with it. That with 108 ELD-M’s and a .223 with 77gr TMK’s for everything.
“Big boned animals” is funny.
Building one right now myself! ;) :tup:
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Thinking about converting the 6.5 CM to a 6 CM to get a few hundred FPS more out of it. 7” less drop at 500 with it. That with 108 ELD-M’s and a .223 with 77gr TMK’s for everything.
“Big boned animals” is funny.
I was going to do the same thing....then I decided to run an 80 grain bullet in my creedmoor at just shy of 3700 fps. It is pretty amazing and super flat shooting. When I burn the barrel out, I may make the switch to 6mm creed.
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".300 wm kills everything all the time"
I agree and mine is the first one I grab, BUT.......
packing a 6.5 cm is sure a ton nicer and it helps me feel like I'm minimizing my global footprint.
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300 Weatherby Alaska to Africa and the lower 48
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For years I hunted all big game with the same rifle, a 30.06. I have since then added a 6.5 CM that I tend to use the most now. If I am hunting elk or larger I'd grab the trusty .06 though. I know the CM will work on elk too, but having a 30 caliber I’d rather go with that. So I guess if I had to pick one of those two for my all around rifle it’s the .06.
Lots of good calibers listed though!
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I absolutely love the 30-06 and have used one for 30 years. I own two:
* Browning X-Bolt Stalker Long Range
* Remington 1903 (C-Style Stock)
If I had to pick any other caliber it would be a 7mm Magnum.
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Hunted with a 7x57 Mauser for many years, now I use a 6.5x55 Swede
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If I had to pick one, I would be hard pressed to pick between the 270, 7mm Rem Mag, 30-06, or 300 Win Mag. I guess the 30-06 with a 180gr Partition or 150gr TTSX would shoot flat enough for my uses and velocities won’t compromise bullet integrity up close.
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I have a Hells Canyon LR McMillan in 300WSM that is my #1 go to, particularly if shots may be long, but it’s pretty unwieldy. 190 Berger VLDs at 3,000 and I’ve taken it out to 1,000 multiple times and to a mile once. Not very fun to carry around at times. Hunting the west side I have 2 Kimber Montana’s in .308 and 30WSM, accurate rifles and super light, but definitely not seeing impact through the scope with either and as I’ve gotten older I enjoy shooting the super light 300wsm less and less. Have a 6.5 CM that’s awesome for spotting impact, but I’d like a little more oomph for longer shots on bears in the open country in particular.
I’m thinking about either selling or rechambering the Kimber Montana 300wsm to 6.5 prc for a super light and lighter recoiling rifle for the high country stuff.
Thinking a 6.5 PRC and a 30WSM would be a perfect combo for anything I want to hunt.
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30/06 with 180 gr Partitions has been my go to for 40 years.
It just works.
Have a Remington 700 bolt and Browning BAR in that caliber.
Have played with others but thats what goes to the woods with me every year .
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270 win with 130 accubonds then my 7mm rem mag with 160 accubonds then my 338 win mag with (yep
) 225 accubonds. Depending on the day and the game i feel quite well covered. makes it hard to talk the missus into more rifles tho


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I will have to say, for me the 7RM.... The only thing I would not use it for in North America would be the big bears... comfortable with every other critter.
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Thinking about converting the 6.5 CM to a 6 CM to get a few hundred FPS more out of it. 7” less drop at 500 with it. That with 108 ELD-M’s and a .223 with 77gr TMK’s for everything.
“Big boned animals” is funny.
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270wsm
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270wsm
Drops em like a sack of chit 👍👍
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270wsm
Drops em like a sack of chit 👍👍
Great round. Last year in MT my 2 sons and I all used the same rifle. 3 bullets 3 deer! Nuff said
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6x45. Probably the lowest recoil and big-game legal caliber. User discression required for ethical shots. But that applies to any caliber, so why not this one?
More realistically, I'd probably choose a 7mm rem mag. Great and versatile caliber, and there's plenty of good deals on them since most guys are chasing the current marketing favorites that end in arc, prc, or creedmoor.
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270 :tup:
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I would guess there's not too many people that hunt with a rifle that don't have either a 7 mag, 270, or a 06 in their selection :dunno:
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I would guess there's not too many people that hunt with a rifle that don't have either a 7 mag, 270, or a 06 in their selection :dunno:
:hello: I don't.
7mm-08 for me. My wife bought it for me when I started big game hunting and I just can't find a reason to get anything else.
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That said, I killed my first elk and first deer with a borrowed 30-06. So I still fit into the very high % of big game hunters who have hunted with one of those calibers.
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.30-06 if you're talking North American hunting. Versatile number of loads and can be purchased virtually anywhere.
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What I could shoot accurately without developing a flinch up to a 30-06. Then make sure I have good performing bullets and know what range they are still effective and where I want to place them for the most reliable kill.
If that would mean a 243 then so be it. I can shoot my dads 300 magnums accurately without flinching but he can not. Still I hunted with a 30-06 till switching to bowhunting.
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I'll never part with my 1976 270 Winchester in Ruger M77. Deer, Elk, Bear, and one vicious coyote round come calving season. I have bigger guns, but they kick and don't group as well as this rifle does with Barnes 129gr LRX bullets. Why get the snot kicked out of me when I already have enough gun for anything in Washington State?
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300 WSM for suuuuuuuuure :brew:
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My most used is .270, only because that's what I had the longest. In recent years, I use a .243 for 100% of my deer hunting because I now have one with high sentimental value. Still have a .270 if I need it for things bigger than deer.
If I was buying a new rifle I'd look for a 7mm-08 for its combo of effectiveness and easy shooting.
The .270s I've owned were purchased because that was the caliber I found available in the rifle I wanted.
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.308 130-200 gr. Sonic to subsonic. Most readily available around.
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35 Whelen works great for an all around cartridge in these coastal rainforests 🍻
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Love my 243 unless I’m after elk. Then it’s the 300wm
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30-06
Best all around caliber for the Lower 48. Hands down.
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If I could only have one rifle it would be my 338 Lapua improved. Overkill for most situations but I can do anything I want with it within my limits. Everything else has its own limits. And recoil is much less than my unbraked 30-06 and spottong shots easier. My 300wm and 338wm don’t get used much any more.
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Either a 300 WSM or a 300 WM
I don't have a 300 WSM. I do have 264WM, 300WM and 338WM.
In today's world with suppressed as an option, I'd prolly go 300 WSM, 20" suppressed.
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If I could only have one rifle it would be my 338 Lapua improved. Overkill for most situations but I can do anything I want with it within my limits. Everything else has its own limits. And recoil is much less than my unbraked 30-06 and spottong shots easier. My 300wm and 338wm don’t get used much any more.
That's a dang good brake, 338 Lapua magnum has 60% more recoil than the 30-06. Doesn't the improved have even more? That would put the brake at 80-90% reduction?
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If I could only have one rifle it would be my 338 Lapua improved. Overkill for most situations but I can do anything I want with it within my limits. Everything else has its own limits. And recoil is much less than my unbraked 30-06 and spottong shots easier. My 300wm and 338wm don’t get used much any more.
That's a dang good brake, 338 Lapua magnum has 60% more recoil than the 30-06. Doesn't the improved have even more? That would put the brake at 80-90% reduction?
or it’s like 20 lbs
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If I could only have one rifle it would be my 338 Lapua improved. Overkill for most situations but I can do anything I want with it within my limits. Everything else has its own limits. And recoil is much less than my unbraked 30-06 and spottong shots easier. My 300wm and 338wm don’t get used much any more.
That's a dang good brake, 338 Lapua magnum has 60% more recoil than the 30-06. Doesn't the improved have even more? That would put the brake at 80-90% reduction?
The 1.2” SRS titanium 5 port brake does work great. 12# rifle with composite stock and great pad - vs 7# 30-06 unbraked with wood stock.
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I went 6.5prc for my all around gun. a 140-150g class bullet in the boiler room of anything huntable in north america will do the trick.
I built a 300wm for bear and elk, but its never been shot. Ill probably sell some parts off of it and find a cheaper caliber to replace the barrel to turn it into a range toy. no reason to pack around a big magnum to me with modern bullet construction being what it is.
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First rifle I bought was a Remington 700 30-06. I killed a ton of animals with it. But at times felt like I needed more. So I had a 300rum built off the action. Have absolutely loved the caliber and its capabilities. I have multiple top of the line custom built rifles in various calibers, but I seem to gravitate back to that one. Probably second favorite is my 7saum.
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I went 6.5prc for my all around gun. a 140-150g class bullet in the boiler room of anything huntable in north america will do the trick.
I built a 300wm for bear and elk, but its never been shot. Ill probably sell some parts off of it and find a cheaper caliber to replace the barrel to turn it into a range toy. no reason to pack around a big magnum to me with modern bullet construction being what it is.
6.5 is the gateway drug to the smaller stuff. You'll ne necking that prc down to a 6mm before you know it :chuckle:
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I went 6.5prc for my all around gun. a 140-150g class bullet in the boiler room of anything huntable in north america will do the trick.
I built a 300wm for bear and elk, but its never been shot. Ill probably sell some parts off of it and find a cheaper caliber to replace the barrel to turn it into a range toy. no reason to pack around a big magnum to me with modern bullet construction being what it is.
6.5 is the gateway drug to the smaller stuff. You'll ne necking that prc down to a 6mm before you know it :chuckle:
I went prc, cause I'm tearing the barrel off my Creedmoor, trying to decide if I want to go 25 creed or 6 creed for that one :chuckle:
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280 AI 140 to 160 weight will do it all
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Geez, again…all those Army snipers can’t be wrong 8). .308, get sum
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zn3J8KnB8uY&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD. Sorry, had to do it 762 millimeter :chuckle:
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I always default to the original. The 180-grain bullet in a 30-06 rifle has probably killed at least two of every game animal on this planet.
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7 SAUM or PRC with Heavies
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35 Whelen works wonders on critters in the coastal rain forests I haunt🍻
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The .300 win mag, easy to find ammo, Does everything
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Anything that will stabilize a 108-115 grain 6mm. Fast twist .243, .243AI, 6 creed to name a few.
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Lots of stuff that works well. I have an old bolt action Ruger 7 mag that loves anything that says Federal Premium. It has worked very well on elk since the 1970’s topped with an old Leopold 3x9.Just no having to adjust aim points. Also have a Knight Disc Extreme that is very impressive with accuracy and killing power with 3-50 grain pellets. What trips my trigger though, Nlnja warfare in SW.Wa. Shoot a Rosie bull at 15 to 20 feet wiih a rifled barreled shotgun. I have 2 Savage slug guns that are the *censored* for restricted units. One has a fixed box the newer one has a clip. Three shots and no worry about getting wet. The 3x9 during modern is another bonus. My slug of choice was discontinued. A 375 grain hollow point Cor-Loct Ultra was devastating at those ranges. Spelling may be wrong there but the kids in our group were killing elk at 200 plus with Fibre optic sights. I prefer the up close and personal, I like to smell them before I shoot them. Best of the WEST is pathetic