Post by: Shawn Ryan on May 17, 2024, 03:08:05 PM
https://www.dfw.state.or.us/news/2024/05_May/051624.asp
Post by: ducks4days on May 17, 2024, 03:16:47 PM
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Post by: Ridgeratt on May 17, 2024, 06:34:58 PM
https://www.chronline.com/stories/washington-officials-determine-six-wolves-found-dead-were-poisoned,301594#:~:text=State%20wildlife%20officials%20have%20determined%20that%20six%20wolves,first%20official%20confirmation%20that%20the%20wolves%20were%20poisoned.
Post by: LDennis24 on May 17, 2024, 08:34:20 PM
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Post by: Elkaholic daWg on May 22, 2024, 06:40:41 AM
Be careful what you wish for they are still looking for the people who did this.
https://www.chronline.com/stories/washington-officials-determine-six-wolves-found-dead-were-poisoned,301594#:~:text=State%20wildlife%20officials%20have%20determined%20that%20six%20wolves,first%20official%20confirmation%20that%20the%20wolves%20were%20poisoned.
But which side of the border did it happen? It does matter, doesn't it? Can't they still be offed on the other side?
Post by: salmosalar on May 22, 2024, 09:37:37 AM
DDT doesn't kill animals! :chuckle: I have a can of it in my shed. I met an old man who said it's great for getting rid of lice and they used to put it in the kids hair! It has detrimental effects on amphibians and insects. It was found to cause eggs to become unviable as well. It doesn't kill any mammals that I ever heard of. The stuff I have is for treating cattle. The can is empty now.
The LD50 for DDT is about 1,000 mg/ kg. So it certainly can kill an animal. I would not say that it is super acutely toxic to mammals but it is poinsonous by most standards. It's similar in acute toxicity to advil.
It has chronic effects and is very slow to break down in the environment. It bioaccumulates in fat. It has been shown to have reproductive effects. So just because it does not kill efficiently and quickly does not mean that it is not a threat to human health or mammal health or the health of any species.
I have a hard time seeing why anyone would use it to kill a mammal though. There are a whole lot of more effective ways to poison a mammal that is for sure.
Post by: LDennis24 on May 22, 2024, 11:30:09 AM
DDT doesn't kill animals! :chuckle: I have a can of it in my shed. I met an old man who said it's great for getting rid of lice and they used to put it in the kids hair! It has detrimental effects on amphibians and insects. It was found to cause eggs to become unviable as well. It doesn't kill any mammals that I ever heard of. The stuff I have is for treating cattle. The can is empty now.
The LD50 for DDT is about 1,000 mg/ kg. So it certainly can kill an animal. I would not say that it is super acutely toxic to mammals but it is poinsonous by most standards. It's similar in acute toxicity to advil.
It has chronic effects and is very slow to break down in the environment. It bioaccumulates in fat. It has been shown to have reproductive effects. So just because it does not kill efficiently and quickly does not mean that it is not a threat to human health or mammal health or the health of any species.
I have a hard time seeing why anyone would use it to kill a mammal though. There are a whole lot of more effective ways to poison a mammal that is for sure.
Right! Thats basically what I meant. You would have to force feed it to the wolf to kill it! There's a can of cyanide in the shed at an old farm by my brothers. That would do it alot quicker!
This is the most likely scenario to me...
After banning M-44 use in Oregon there are probably some sitting around and somebody bought some and put them to use somewhere. But like the report states. You could possibly kill unintended targets with them. This is from the anti's website.
Post by: LDennis24 on May 22, 2024, 11:31:53 AM
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Post by: LDennis24 on May 23, 2024, 03:23:22 PM
As hunters and outdoor enthusiasts I thought poaching and/or illegal killing of wildlife was something that we were collectively against. Silly me.
Post by: ducks4days on May 23, 2024, 03:31:32 PM
As hunters and outdoor enthusiasts I thought poaching and/or illegal killing of wildlife was something that we were collectively against. Silly me.
I'm against eating brussels sprouts for dinner, but I am against eating literal poop from a butt for dinner even more than that. Youll get a different reaction out of me depending on what it is you are trying to feed me.
I feel very different about wolves in WA or OR being illegally killed vs wolves in Wyoming or Alaska, mostly because there are significantly more mechanisms to legally kill wolves in some places than others which makes the number of understandable circumstances lower. And I mean understandable and not excusable. I actually really hate that they were poisoned. Poisoning is indiscriminate, the poacher could have harmed a large number of other beneficial predators and carrion animals because they had no direct control over the dispensing of the poison. Even if they had a reason to kill a single wolf, they could have taken out the whole pack, along with any vultures, badgers, eagles, cats, etc. that happened upon them.
That is not cool.
Post by: bornhunter on May 23, 2024, 05:39:31 PM
Post by: HighlandLofts on June 10, 2024, 06:41:11 PM
Just like no guns in "GUN FREE ZONES"
Put up a sign and I won't happen, simple as that.
Post by: DeerThug on June 10, 2024, 06:56:26 PM
Post by: huntnnw on June 10, 2024, 10:44:38 PM
Post by: optic2 on June 11, 2024, 12:53:45 AM
Be careful what you wish for they are still looking for the people who did this.
https://www.chronline.com/stories/washington-officials-determine-six-wolves-found-dead-were-poisoned,301594#:~:text=State%20wildlife%20officials%20have%20determined%20that%20six%20wolves,first%20official%20confirmation%20that%20the%20wolves%20were%20poisoned.
They're still looking for DB Cooper as well, don't hold your breath.
Post by: trophyhunt on June 11, 2024, 02:19:32 AM
As hunters and outdoor enthusiasts I thought poaching and/or illegal killing of wildlife was something that we were collectively against. Silly me.Wolves don’t count, they rip the fetus out while mom is still alive. They were killed in our region many years ago for a reason, before the wolves took over in most western states the elk thrived, not so much now. Screw the wolf and any stupid laws that protect them. They will never be “an endangered species” as long as they keep pouring in from Canada. Hope those so called “poachers” never get caught killing wolves.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on June 11, 2024, 03:26:59 AM
What’s the rules for fight club.
Why is this thread even here.🤯
Post by: huntnnw on June 11, 2024, 07:58:15 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 11, 2024, 10:04:04 AM
Wolves have never been an endangered specie in North America . That term is only used in lower 48 for political reasons:yeah: 1000%!
Post by: KNOPHISH on June 11, 2024, 12:27:42 PM
Post by: LDennis24 on June 11, 2024, 02:20:54 PM
Post by: Berin Denson on June 11, 2024, 02:57:48 PM
As hunters and outdoor enthusiasts I thought poaching and/or illegal killing of wildlife was something that we were collectively against. Silly me.oh, so silly
Post by: Klickitatsteelie on June 11, 2024, 07:59:56 PM
Post by: HighlandLofts on June 13, 2024, 06:18:56 AM
We need a couple of ANIFTA and BLM wildlife groups to help us out.
They can burn cities down and never be delt with from law enforcement.
Post by: Doublelunger on June 26, 2024, 11:10:41 AM
Post by: HighlandLofts on July 28, 2024, 10:48:20 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 28, 2024, 12:41:43 PM
So how much of the exlitol makes it lethal to canines?
Xylitol is so toxic to dogs that just 1 stick of gum may contain enough of the ingredient to poison a small dog.
https://www.petvet.vet/site/blog/2022/03/15/dog-ate-gum#:~:text=Xylitol%20is%20so%20toxic%20to,gram%20of%20xylitol%20per%20piece!