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Title: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: SkookumHntr on June 26, 2024, 05:26:50 PM
Does anybody know where to get a rail for a Knight Bighorn? Im wanting to put a scope on mine and cant find anybody that carries the rail to mount it.. >:(
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Post by: callturner on June 26, 2024, 05:30:31 PM
I think I have a set, there 2 pc. I will look.
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Post by: redi on June 26, 2024, 06:35:42 PM
Leupold makes these
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Post by: Irish_hunter93 on June 26, 2024, 06:51:17 PM
https://www.murphyprecision.com/knight-muzzle-loader-older-straight-pull/


$$$ but they are  very nice, machined once they get your order, and you can do stainless steel or titanium. High quality
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Post by: Dan-o on June 26, 2024, 06:53:30 PM
PM sent.
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Post by: duckmen1 on June 26, 2024, 10:05:16 PM
https://www.murphyprecision.com/knight-muzzle-loader-older-straight-pull/


$$$ but they are  very nice, machined once they get your order, and you can do stainless steel or titanium. High quality

I wish I would have seen this option when I was setting up the leupold red dot on my knight. Looks like a great setup. I do like my setup but this would have taken a lot of guess work out of scope rings and such.
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: JWBINX on June 27, 2024, 06:05:00 AM
Just try a couple Weaver # 15 (48015).
They will be two piece bases that work fine.
They will probably be under 20.00.
Take your rifle with you to check hole spacing and contour.
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: bustedoldman on June 27, 2024, 09:47:15 AM
Remington 541 Pattern bases work as well.

https://www.muzzleloaders.com/product-category/muzzleloader-scopes-optics/scope-bases-rings/
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: huntnphool on August 01, 2024, 09:50:44 PM
 I put the Murphy on mine, works great with the Seekins Rings and RDS. :twocents:
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Post by: Chukarhead on August 23, 2024, 12:58:11 PM
Good leads above from the hive mind. I wanted to mount a Leupold Freedom RDS with Warne QD rings to ease cleaning. I started with Warne two-piece mounts, but the spacing of the rings on the RDS wouldn't allow it to drop into the slots. Boo. I eventually bought a 0 degree rail from EGW (https://egwguns.com/knight-bolt-action-muzzleloader-picatinny-rail-0-moa), and had it chopped in two and coated by the Cerakote King of Tacoma. Without chopping, it's *tough* to access the Red Hot nipple I'm running. I'm happy with the results, but might have gone a different direction if I had it all to do over.

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Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: CP on August 23, 2024, 01:07:28 PM
You might consider putting some sort of heat/debris shield under your scope.  A lot of hot gases and chucks come out of that slot.  Even wrapping some aluminum foil underneath will help.

My Bighorn came with a 2-piece rail.  I guess they don’t do that anymore.
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: Chukarhead on August 23, 2024, 01:11:19 PM
You might consider putting some sort of heat/debris shield under your scope.  A lot of hot gases and chucks come out of that slot.  Even wrapping some aluminum foil underneath will help.

My Bighorn came with a 2-piece rail.  I guess they don’t do that anymore.

Thanks for the tip. My Bighorn is over 15 years old...maybe they hadn't started shipping with the mounts yet.  :chuckle: She only looks young because of the fresh makeup.
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Post by: CP on August 23, 2024, 01:15:01 PM
You might consider putting some sort of heat/debris shield under your scope.  A lot of hot gases and chucks come out of that slot.  Even wrapping some aluminum foil underneath will help.

My Bighorn came with a 2-piece rail.  I guess they don’t do that anymore.

Thanks for the tip. My Bighorn is over 15 years old...maybe they hadn't started shipping with the mounts yet.  :chuckle: She only looks young because of the fresh makeup.

She's younger than mine.  I bought it Jerry's surplus; they went out business at least 15 years ago. 
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Post by: spookgus on August 23, 2024, 01:58:13 PM
I have Leupold 2-piece bases on my old LK93. I believe they will fit any round receiver knight.
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Post by: gee_unit360 on August 23, 2024, 04:32:02 PM
I put the Murphy on mine, works great with the Seekins Rings and RDS. :twocents:

What MOA on the rail did you use on the Murphy rail for the big horn? And what set of seekins rings?
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Post by: huntnphool on September 07, 2024, 11:09:13 PM
 0 MOA on the rail, Seekins 34mm .92 rings.
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Post by: kirkl on September 12, 2024, 08:01:44 AM
I bought the Leupold two piece rails and had to get lower rings as the rings that came with the rds scope were to tall.
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: rgcopk9 on September 12, 2024, 08:06:32 AM
I got the Murphy Precision rail, looks like your 2 piece base will be easier to put a cap on than the 1 piece. I’m sure happy with the RDS!


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Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: huntnphool on September 23, 2024, 09:12:17 PM
 Update for my Bighorn and the RDX.

 New Bighorn purchased several years ago during their blowout sale, even though I’d never needed one because I can’t draw a tag.

 Both my kids drew good muzzy cow tags this year, so I’m getting it set up.

 I went with Knights recommended load to start, using their 300gr poly tipped bullets.

 100gr of Triple 7 and 300gr poly tip bullet. Open sights, first shot is all the way to the right.

 Cleaned the gun and fired again with no adjustment, that’s the next one in from the right.
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: huntnphool on September 23, 2024, 09:15:04 PM
 Keep in mind that this is my son shooting open sights, and he’s never shot a muzzy before.

 Cleaned again and adjusted the open sight, that’s the third from right.

 Adjusted sight and shot again, that’s the one right down the middle.
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Post by: huntnphool on September 23, 2024, 09:16:35 PM
 That showed me the load was perfect, so I mounted the rail and red dot.
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Post by: huntnphool on September 23, 2024, 09:18:40 PM
 He took two shots with the red dot at 50 and it was dialed, so he moved the target out to 100. This is his first shot with the red dot!
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: huntnphool on September 23, 2024, 09:20:21 PM
His next shot was one inch left at the same elevation…we packed up after that!

M-Ray was there coaching the entire time and can confirm all of it! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: Dan-o on September 23, 2024, 11:04:53 PM
Let me know when you're tired of that crappy old Big Horn.
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: huntnphool on September 25, 2024, 07:55:00 PM
Let me know when you're tired of that crappy old Big Horn.

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: Goshawk on December 08, 2024, 04:12:34 PM
https://www.murphyprecision.com/knight-muzzle-loader-older-straight-pull/


$$$ but they are  very nice, machined once they get your order, and you can do stainless steel or titanium. High quality

That's just over the top expensive for a simple rail done on a CNC.  Knight Muzzle Loader - Older straight pull
$161.00 - $234.00
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: high_hunter on December 08, 2024, 07:40:26 PM
Following, some great info here on what has and hasn't worked!    I have a stainless big horn with the fire sights that's been great but may try a read dot or 1x scope after the late season is over. 
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: huntnphool on December 12, 2024, 11:06:20 PM
https://www.murphyprecision.com/knight-muzzle-loader-older-straight-pull/


$$$ but they are  very nice, machined once they get your order, and you can do stainless steel or titanium. High quality

That's just over the top expensive for a simple rail done on a CNC.  Knight Muzzle Loader - Older straight pull
$161.00 - $234.00
Update…my son dropped his elk at 170 yards, right through the heart…and it was his first ever kill.

 Quality gear, quality results! :twocents:

 YMMV
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: high_hunter on December 12, 2024, 11:13:12 PM
Congrats to your son on the success and you on the setup!  Looking forward to hearing the story.   :tup:

Just ordered up similar components for mine and am anxious to try it out. Any tips or tricks you learned I'd love to hear.
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: huntnphool on December 12, 2024, 11:26:59 PM
 If you have a Bighorn, I’d start with the 300gr poly tip and 100gr of Triple 7. Proved to be perfect for the muzzy, just get it dialed.

 We dialed in the open sights, then mounted the scope. Was way easier and more accurate than I had guessed it was going to be.

@M_ray
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Post by: dilleytech on December 21, 2024, 02:49:57 PM
If you have a Bighorn, I’d start with the 300gr poly tip and 100gr of Triple 7. Proved to be perfect for the muzzy, just get it dialed.

 We dialed in the open sights, then mounted the scope. Was way easier and more accurate than I had guessed it was going to be.

@M_ray

Lots of good bullet and powder combos that work. The tricky part comes down to the shooter doing their part with modern muzzies.

I want to put a scope on one of my bighorns. I like the looks of the two piece mounts. Not a fan of the single piece rails getting in the way of the breach. That would hinder my latex glove waterproofing technology.
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: huntnphool on December 21, 2024, 11:35:00 PM
If you have a Bighorn, I’d start with the 300gr poly tip and 100gr of Triple 7. Proved to be perfect for the muzzy, just get it dialed.

 We dialed in the open sights, then mounted the scope. Was way easier and more accurate than I had guessed it was going to be.

@M_ray

Not a fan of the single piece rails getting in the way of the breach. That would hinder my latex glove waterproofing technology.

  :tup:

 Haven’t had an issue accessing the breach or cleaning with my one piece. YMMV
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Post by: gee_unit360 on December 22, 2024, 09:22:30 AM
You got a pic of latex glove on bighorn just curious how your waterproof setup works and what it looks like exactly.
Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: gee_unit360 on December 22, 2024, 09:23:42 AM
If you have a Bighorn, I’d start with the 300gr poly tip and 100gr of Triple 7. Proved to be perfect for the muzzy, just get it dialed.

 We dialed in the open sights, then mounted the scope. Was way easier and more accurate than I had guessed it was going to be.

@M_ray

Lots of good bullet and powder combos that work. The tricky part comes down to the shooter doing their part with modern muzzies.

I want to put a scope on one of my bighorns. I like the looks of the two piece mounts. Not a fan of the single piece rails getting in the way of the breach. That would hinder my latex glove waterproofing technology.

You got a pic of latex glove on bighorn just curious how your waterproof setup works and what it looks like exactly.
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Title: Re: Knight Bighorn rail for scope??
Post by: HntnFsh on December 22, 2024, 11:13:14 AM
I've muzzy hunted with a Knight inline for close to 30 years. Never had a need to cover the nipple or barrel. And Ive hunted in torrential downpours. Its all about using good caps (rws) and not pointing your barrel in the air when it's raining.
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