Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => All Other Gear => Topic started by: huntandjeep on July 01, 2024, 05:12:10 PM
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Been wearing a set of Core 4 Element pants for a few years now . Wanting a new pair that's similar to them . Which ones from Kuiu , Sitka or First Lite are the closest ?
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Kuiu Attack pants are my choice. I pair those with First Lite suspenders.
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I wear sitka almost exclusively. I have an original pair of 90% pants that is still going strong. The Mountain pant and timberline are pretty nice. My only complaint with Sitka....is they change their styles way to often. If you find a pair you like....buy two or three pair, next year they may not make them again. Drives me nuts!!
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Hard to beat kuiu, that’s my first choice. For a lighter early season pant and cheaper, outdoor research!
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Kuiu
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Guess I should have been a little more specific. I love my current Core 4 element pants and want to replace them with a different brand that is almost identical build wise . Was looking for more of a " what you want is the Sitka Accent or the Kuiu Guide pants or First Lite Foundry pants ".. I hit up the local Cabelas the other day, and they had a few pairs of Sitka. But they were super thin .
My Core 4 Elements are insulated, but not so much that they are to hot for Washington Deer / Elk rifle season . And with a base layer are pretty much perfect for Montana in mid November . Just hate ordering online and having to send back things 3 or 4 times .
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I live in my Kuiu Axis Hybrid pants from mid Oct to December....
Durable exterior and soft interior. Only add a layer if it gets into the 20s or colder.
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First lite shouldn’t be in the same conversation as kuiu and Sitka. No idea what the pants your trying to match so can’t help there but first lite is junk.
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The sitka timberline pants are a heavier built pant with a light insulation in them but they are not too much for mid season in Wa. I have both the mountain and timberline and the mountain pant is much lighter built and I only wear them early season. I also have the kuiu attack pant and they are well built, not insulated but still a tough pant that's easy to layer underneath. Another option is the Skre hardscrabble pant. I bought a pair of these this spring through their discount bin on the website. I have yet to use them for actual hunting but I do like them so far, the seem sturdy and well built, heavier fabric but not insulated. I have a couple Skre tops that have held up for 3 years now so I expect the pants to do well.
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Looking quickly at Sitka and Kuiu site . Looks like either the Sitka Mountain pants or Kuiu Encounter pants are similar to my current ones .
Well now after reading Mfowls post maybe the Mountain pants aren't what I want . Off to check out the Timberline and Kuiu Axis hybrid Fishgamereaper recommended. And now Skre :bash:
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I only bought the Skre because they were half priced at $62.00. You should check out Kuiu attack and Sitka timberline. They are both a great pant.
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After trying a few different pants over the years I would suggest the Timberline pant from Sitka. Probably not a hot weather choice but once October rolls around they are perfect for me. Very durable and comfortable. Lots of great choices out there.
SR1
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Timberline and then a thin set of thermals underneath in cooler temps. A lot of these performance clothing manufacturers are building gear to be layered, purely for the versatility and ability to customize your clothing day to day.
The old 90% pant is what you are looking for.....but it was really only good for cool to cold weather and would sweat your boys off in temps above 60.
If you run cold and want a pant for that has more insulation, look at the Sitka Stratus pant.
Youtube is also a great site to research these pants as people give reviews while showing the pants features.
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My favorite pant is Kuiu attacks. If it’s warm the kutana are the best light pant I’ve ever owned. I have Sitka ascents and first lite. I’d never own another pair of first lite
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I have the SKRE Hardscrabble pants for a couple years now and like them we'll. Not insulated but fairly thick and durable. The hip vents dump heat decently if warm. I like them better than my core element pants.
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Love my Sitka Grinder pants....But all of my sitka gear has been pretty good. But so has the Kilik gear that I have.......
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I have a ton of Sitka and Kuiu and Kuiu Attack pants are by far my favorite
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There are still a few Core 4 pants available on Ebay. I haven't found anything I like as much as the Core 4 element highlines, but I'm also too cheap to pay more than 50 bucks for a pair of pants unless they are actually waterproof. At the end of the day, Nothing is going to keep you dry like PVC. Side note, costco travel pants are the bomb for early season hunting and scouting. 20 bucks vs whatever the big boys want for their name brand click bait pants. Plus you look styling too.
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Not familiar with your original pants, but only use KUIU and Sitka pants myself
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KUIU Attack Pants - Best I've used by far!!
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Be sure to look into Pnuma while you are at it.
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Kuiu Attack pants are pretty legit. I mostly use them middle of Oct on. Archery hunting, I've been using Wrangler Cargo Flex pants. They are extremely comfy and super cheap($25). They don't hold up like the Kuiu or Sitka but you can but 6 pairs for the cost of 1 and they are more comfy for my build.
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Sitka gives veterans pro pricing, 40% off, even on sale pricing, with a DD214. The Sitka Ascent pants have articulated knees for easier climbing and are on sale right now for $99 retail. Tough pants. I've had mine for a few hunting seasons and they're fine.
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For wind I layer up and use my rain gear over the top to keep wind from cutting into your insulation layers
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I have the attack pant and love them. That said I have a pair from browning that are pretty dang nice
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If you like the core 4, you will love the Timberline. For rifle hunting and mid October on I haven't found a pair I wear more. Not a go to if it's warm and active, and they are not as quiet if bowhunting, but for what your describing they would be great. Mine have all held up real well, and seemee sized similar to the core 4, with IMO an improved fit.
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Hit up Cabelas in Post falls today after work to check some gear out . Tried on a few different sizes of Sitka Mountain pants and a pair of the Traverse just because . Pretty nice pants , but why do they feel the need to make the crotch so dang long ?
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I just blew out the croch in my sitka 90% pants, they discontinued those long ago so was going to go with the mountain pants, they appear to be discontinued also so enough of that and im going kuiu attack pants.
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I just blew out the croch in my sitka 90% pants, they discontinued those long ago so was going to go with the mountain pants, they appear to be discontinued also so enough of that and im going kuiu attack pants.
Where did.you see the Mountain pants discontinued ? They have them on the website, Cabelas has them in stock :dunno:
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When i tried to order them they have basically no sizes available and it says discontinued..
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The kuiu attack pants are alright but I find the material to be warmer than I like. First lite corrugate guide pants are worth a look as well as stone glacier de havilland lite.
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Kuiu Attack
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Kuiu
Attack or guide
I like them
Have both
Different patterns
By once
Cry once
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I’ve been running a light weight, breathable pair of Kuhl pants for the last three seasons. They’ve been extremely durable with over 150+ trips between the front/ backcountry on both the west and east side.
Found a good deal on the first lite trace pants so just picked up a pair. Going to christen them on the RMGA goat count next weekend. Happy to give a review for anyone interested.
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Another vote for Kuiu Attack or Tiburon if hunting in super hot weather.
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So you guys are saying my cheapo wrangler camo stuff is no good.
These work pretty good for warm weather.
https://www.amazon.com/Wrangler-Authentics-Regular-Tapered-Cargo/dp/B07RW8FLVG/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=2AVKD1ABOC8NA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.9rc2Vhl8Kkwfhfc4AioUk0XUEiZphtScI8b0ksY1wVTdMotQoJWmuQGFyy4VGQlVsaAD_8tMpx33IlsrBVGV2NVwf6qeNAnLgj1MNKLcFJvmCHlAXWBF56mBOH09NdODRTXpS0Rrq2Yu9y8QjfmGq4bvJC-msM5vLMeT7csT8zhKx3TmSXsU8C8Sj4YPgCtqQWx2YS9da_2xtKtJDgcbe_SpToUFt_V26QdM1RzpG-NaaH0Whhx6kYspcZzt4N8s2xnJuusxDfyqS4STsiNniQL08o7NTrCvE1hkA8597xo._pOQ4Ksriy1S7txPPnKuS3qK8s6yXRi6hNGXSoh3cRE&dib_tag=se&keywords=wrangler+camo+pants+for+men&qid=1720628947&sprefix=Wrangler+camo%2Caps%2C239&sr=8-3
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So you guys are saying my cheapo wrangler camo stuff is no good.
These work pretty good for warm weather.
https://www.amazon.com/Wrangler-Authentics-Regular-Tapered-Cargo/dp/B07RW8FLVG/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=2AVKD1ABOC8NA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.9rc2Vhl8Kkwfhfc4AioUk0XUEiZphtScI8b0ksY1wVTdMotQoJWmuQGFyy4VGQlVsaAD_8tMpx33IlsrBVGV2NVwf6qeNAnLgj1MNKLcFJvmCHlAXWBF56mBOH09NdODRTXpS0Rrq2Yu9y8QjfmGq4bvJC-msM5vLMeT7csT8zhKx3TmSXsU8C8Sj4YPgCtqQWx2YS9da_2xtKtJDgcbe_SpToUFt_V26QdM1RzpG-NaaH0Whhx6kYspcZzt4N8s2xnJuusxDfyqS4STsiNniQL08o7NTrCvE1hkA8597xo._pOQ4Ksriy1S7txPPnKuS3qK8s6yXRi6hNGXSoh3cRE&dib_tag=se&keywords=wrangler+camo+pants+for+men&qid=1720628947&sprefix=Wrangler+camo%2Caps%2C239&sr=8-3
Nope, I think if you are paying over $100 for hunting pants, you are throwing away your money, which obviously is your right to do. :chuckle:
I have two pairs of Columbia rip-stop camo light weight pants (not tight fitting) that I bought 2 for $60 on sale 12 years ago and they are still going strong. They are good to go down to freezing temps, then I put on a set of Polar Max lightweight thermals though I have not had to use them since 2014.
I also have a pair of Wall's rip-stop real-tree, that are heavier, that are probably 20 years old and still great pants that cost $40 at a GI Joe's year end sale, though heavier then the Columbia's.
I hate the tight fitting stretchy pants for hunting.