Post by: Rat44 on July 30, 2024, 05:30:35 PM
Used my old Army Mountain bag since the 80's.
Was the old style feather mummy bag and served me well.
Kept me warm in -0 degree weather.
Looking at new bags for hunting season this year.
Usually in a unheated tent mostly solo.
Mountain winter use down below zero is seen on occasion.Will be used with a thermal pad.
Looked a little bit on line but of course I am leary of 'Reviews' on retail sites.
Any suggestions on real world use would be appreciated..
Post by: MADMAX on July 30, 2024, 06:18:13 PM
Post by: jjhunter on July 30, 2024, 06:25:30 PM
Post by: jrebel on July 30, 2024, 06:39:02 PM
Enlightened equipment also makes bags. I just like the room to move around.
Post by: vandeman17 on July 30, 2024, 06:52:09 PM
I use an enlightened equipment quilt in conjunction with a exped down mat. I won’t talk wide as the extra weight was negligible and it packs down to the size of a football. I have had it for 6 years and have used it in Canada and Idaho and have zero complaints.
Enlightened equipment also makes bags. I just like the room to move around.
I second that enlightened equipment quilt. I was always a cold sleeper so I was hesitant to get a quilt but after using it, I really like it. Mine is a 20° bag and it keeps me warm
Post by: actionshooter on July 30, 2024, 07:33:30 PM
https://www.stoneglacier.com/collections/sleeping-bags/products/chilkoot-0
Post by: JWBINX on July 30, 2024, 07:51:38 PM
Post by: elkaholic123 on July 30, 2024, 09:06:22 PM
I believe it is now called Alaskan Instinct!
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on July 30, 2024, 09:20:58 PM
Had an unfortunate accident with my old bag.
Used my old Army Mountain bag since the 80's.
Was the old style feather mummy bag and served me well.
Kept me warm in -0 degree weather.
Looking at new bags for hunting season this year.
Usually in a unheated tent mostly solo.
Mountain winter use down below zero is seen on occasion.Will be used with a thermal pad.
Looked a little bit on line but of course I am leary of 'Reviews' on retail sites.
Any suggestions on real world use would be appreciated..
R44, for backcountry Soldier, pick up a good Nemo pad (bombproof) and one of these https://viamoutdoors.com/product/insulator-quilts-wide-width-58/, you won’t be disappointed. I have a 15 degree VO bag and it kept me very comfortable on my last backcountry ID hunt in 16 degree weather. If u have specific questions, send Tristan at 6AM Outdoors a note and he’ll work with you and set u up with a bag mister..trust me.
Post by: MADMAX on July 30, 2024, 09:33:08 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on July 30, 2024, 09:35:28 PM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,287046.0.html
Nice!
Post by: spin05 on July 30, 2024, 11:09:40 PM
Had an unfortunate accident with my old bag.
Used my old Army Mountain bag since the 80's.
Was the old style feather mummy bag and served me well.
Kept me warm in -0 degree weather.
Looking at new bags for hunting season this year.
Usually in a unheated tent mostly solo.
Mountain winter use down below zero is seen on occasion.Will be used with a thermal pad.
Looked a little bit on line but of course I am leary of 'Reviews' on retail sites.
Any suggestions on real world use would be appreciated..
R44, for backcountry Soldier, pick up a good Nemo pad (bombproof) and one of these https://viamoutdoors.com/product/insulator-quilts-wide-width-58/, you won’t be disappointed. I have a 15 degree VO bag and it kept me very comfortable on my last backcountry ID hunt in 16 degree weather. If u have specific questions, send Tristan at 6AM Outdoors a note and he’ll work with you and set u up with a bag mister..trust me.
This is the Quilt my son and i went to this year. Excited to trying it out with our insulated pads
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Post by: trophyhunt on July 31, 2024, 04:54:21 AM
love my custom made EE quilt, super light !I use an enlightened equipment quilt in conjunction with a exped down mat. I won’t talk wide as the extra weight was negligible and it packs down to the size of a football. I have had it for 6 years and have used it in Canada and Idaho and have zero complaints.
Enlightened equipment also makes bags. I just like the room to move around.
I second that enlightened equipment quilt. I was always a cold sleeper so I was hesitant to get a quilt but after using it, I really like it. Mine is a 20° bag and it keeps me warm
Post by: jjhunter on July 31, 2024, 06:58:42 AM
Post by: chukardogs on July 31, 2024, 08:43:16 AM
Post by: highcountry_hunter on July 31, 2024, 05:54:30 PM
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Post by: Houndhunter on July 31, 2024, 06:36:16 PM
Post by: The scout on July 31, 2024, 06:56:40 PM
My EE quilt is what I almost froze to death in🤣
Quilts are garbage in really cold weather
Post by: Rat44 on July 31, 2024, 07:04:55 PM
Not sure if my budget will allow some of these options though.
Retired now so don't have the disposable toy money I once had .:)
Lots of reading to do.
Thanks .
Dennis
Post by: Macs B on August 01, 2024, 08:16:43 AM
All three combined will keep me sleeping warm in weather I wouldn't be dumb enough to go out in.
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on August 01, 2024, 08:46:15 AM
Post by: Rat44 on August 01, 2024, 08:56:40 AM
I wouldn't want to pack it but my US Army Issue, extreme cold weaqther sleep system is absolutely foolproof as far as I am concerned. It is a three peice system of -20 out bag, lighter weight 30 degree inner bag, and a gore tex bivy sack. You can use any of the three elements in any combination to match the envirement.Yes,that is a great system.
All three combined will keep me sleeping warm in weather I wouldn't be dumb enough to go out in.
Tried to find one of those but they don't come up for sale very often.
Mine was the older 70's 80's style Mountain bag.
Post by: ACCUBOND on August 01, 2024, 09:51:47 AM
Post by: Seabass on August 01, 2024, 10:24:31 AM
Some nights I will only use the quilt and some nights I use them both. I don't remember what the system weighs but it's not heavy nor bulky.
Also, your pad is really important. I use a 4-season insulated pad. I have done several nights in the teens with no issues using this system. If it gets below zero, I will sleep in my puffy layers.
Post by: MR5x5 on August 01, 2024, 10:36:45 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on August 01, 2024, 12:22:36 PM
Post by: Rat44 on August 01, 2024, 12:36:50 PM
Feet wont let me pack in anymore.
I use a small sleeping platform with a inflatable thermal pad and an old wool Army blanket on top of me.
Combined with my old mummy bag worked for me down to 0 degrees.
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on August 01, 2024, 01:35:42 PM
Post by: pickardjw on August 01, 2024, 01:45:15 PM
My EE quilt is what I almost froze to death in🤣
Which model, fill and pad?
I've had my 0 degree enigma 850FP down quilt into the low teens paired with an x-therm (6.9 R-value I believe) in a Cimarron floorless tipi and was very comfortable. No snow but plenty of wind.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 01, 2024, 01:55:02 PM
Then save the dough on the down stuff. If not saving weight its not worth it IMO. There are tons of options that are zero degree or more that will have more room, be more comfortable, more durable, and cost a fraction of the price.:yeah: if not packing in you'd be silly to buy a mummy bag. Get one of those flannel lined bags with plenty of leg room that weighs 12lb :chuckle: I've got a 0° I bought from BiMart on sale for like $50 a decade or so ago I use when truck camping and I couldn't think of a scenario where I'd choose a mummy or quilt over that baby if I wasn't carrying it on my back :twocents:
Post by: jrebel on August 01, 2024, 01:56:26 PM
I was curious as well. I have the following and have never been cold. I pair it with an exped downmat.
1 × Revelation
Down Type (DownTek Treated):
850
Temperature:
0°F (-17°C)
Length:
XLong - 7'
Width:
XWide - 64"
Outside Fabric Options:
Fern 20D
Inside Fabric Color:
Burnt Orange 10D
Optional 20D Weather Resistant Stripes:
Steel Grey 20D
Bought in 2017
Post by: Rat44 on August 01, 2024, 03:03:19 PM
I do want the option of being backpackable for future needs.Then save the dough on the down stuff. If not saving weight its not worth it IMO. There are tons of options that are zero degree or more that will have more room, be more comfortable, more durable, and cost a fraction of the price.:yeah: if not packing in you'd be silly to buy a mummy bag. Get one of those flannel lined bags with plenty of leg room that weighs 12lb :chuckle: I've got a 0° I bought from BiMart on sale for like $50 a decade or so ago I use when truck camping and I couldn't think of a scenario where I'd choose a mummy or quilt over that baby if I wasn't carrying it on my back :twocents:
I do have limited mobility but can still pack if I need or choose to.
Been using mummy style bags for 50 years and dont have an issue with that style.
I do know people that have problems with being closed in with that style.
Post by: Hunter mike on August 01, 2024, 03:21:52 PM
Post by: Rat44 on August 02, 2024, 04:33:47 PM
Learned a lot about all the options out there.
Didn't realize the new technologies in the products available now.
Far cry from the two blankets with a flannel liner I grew up with.
Decided to take up the offer made by Highcountry_hunter for his ovis system.
Thanks again guys.
Post by: MADMAX on August 02, 2024, 04:37:37 PM
When I dumped my military mummy bag from the reserves and went to the Cabelas I have now
No regrets
Post by: BD1 on August 02, 2024, 06:13:57 PM
Post by: Rat44 on August 08, 2024, 06:20:27 PM
Looks like a very well made bag.
Be interesting to see how a hybrid down and synthetic system works.
And a tip of the hat to Kody .
Thank you sir.
Post by: jjhunter on August 10, 2024, 04:14:43 PM
My EE quilt is what I almost froze to death in🤣
Which model, fill and pad?
I've had my 0 degree enigma 850FP down quilt into the low teens paired with an x-therm (6.9 R-value I believe) in a Cimarron floorless tipi and was very comfortable. No snow but plenty of wind.
Just going through my gear today and pulled it out. 10 degree Enigma 850 fill, long, wide. Thermarest Neoair Xlite pad.
Quilt for sale if anyone is looking for one🤣. Probably 15 sleeps in it.
Post by: jackelope on August 10, 2024, 05:43:24 PM
Post by: Stein on August 10, 2024, 07:59:58 PM
I still have a -20 down gore bag, but I don't do much stupid stuff anymore.
I like sticking with one brand because I know where I am comfortable compared to the ratings which are anything but consistent brand to brand. Honestly, the best gauge is to just measure the loft with a ruler and compare it to the tables you can find online. After that, it's all just preference.
There are a bunch of quality manufacturers out there, not like it was 20 years ago.
Post by: Rat44 on August 10, 2024, 08:41:24 PM
Also use a sleeping platform that is like a small cot that raises me about a foot off the ground.
That and a Cabelas Alaska dome tent keeps me safe from the weather.
Post by: tgomez on August 15, 2024, 07:19:36 PM
Post by: Rat44 on August 16, 2024, 06:19:25 AM
In the Army we used a inflatable air mattress,a down mummy bag,a bag cover and a wool blanket on top.
Poncho liner and pup tent half if it was really cold.