Post by: ryan2202 on September 11, 2024, 10:12:18 AM
Post by: Mfowl on September 11, 2024, 10:18:37 AM
Post by: ryan2202 on September 11, 2024, 10:44:15 AM
That's been a refuge for as long as I can recall. If you could hunt it there would be a pile of dudes there!
I've always known it as a Stay Out and Refuge as well. OnX use to show it as a No hunting area. But this is the first year I've noticed the RMEF information. There would be A LOT of people - but I'm just looking for clarification if anyone has information on the RMEF land purchase and use?
Post by: ballpark on September 11, 2024, 10:48:15 AM
Mine shows Washington Dept of Fish & Wildlife (290.37 acres), part of L.T. Murray Wildlife Area.
Post by: ryan2202 on September 11, 2024, 10:54:58 AM
Mine shows Washington Dept of Fish & Wildlife (290.37 acres), part of L.T. Murray Wildlife Area.
Do you have the Land & Access RMEF filter on, in OnX?
Post by: ballpark on September 11, 2024, 11:04:29 AM
Mine shows Washington Dept of Fish & Wildlife (290.37 acres), part of L.T. Murray Wildlife Area.
Do you have the Land & Access RMEF filter on, in OnX?
I do now :tup: Heart K RMEF Access Permitted YES, Hunting Permitted YES
Post by: ryan2202 on September 11, 2024, 11:09:20 AM
Mine shows Washington Dept of Fish & Wildlife (290.37 acres), part of L.T. Murray Wildlife Area.
Do you have the Land & Access RMEF filter on, in OnX?
I do now :tup: Heart K RMEF Access Permitted YES, Hunting Permitted YES
I'm trying to understand MORE about this however - There are BLM signs still up that say property of US Government, no Access. OnX is saying exactly what you said....I was hoping for someone from WDFW to clarify, and they haven't gotten back to me yet ( I called Sunday and left a Voicemail). So....knowing its been a refuge area for sooooo long, makes me nervous to poke around still.
Post by: LDennis24 on September 11, 2024, 11:18:56 AM
Post by: ballpark on September 11, 2024, 11:26:32 AM
Do you have any info to add about his question?
Post by: ryan2202 on September 11, 2024, 11:33:43 AM
Don't rely in OnX for anything other than someone to contact for permission. Their borders and property info can be incorrect and is not a legal defense for your mistake.
While I agree with part of what you're saying - it can be used legally against you, in public land cases - case in point, there is one that has made national headlines over the past couple years.
OnX has saved my butt more than a couple times, when I hunt areas where "locals" think they know the area. So my question still stands - Does anyone have information on the RMEF Heart K area; listed as access permissible and hunting permissible....what use to be stay out area for refuge - no longer shows this.
Post by: ballpark on September 11, 2024, 11:38:38 AM
One of RMEF mission statements is gaining land access for hunting. :tup: All the BLM land around says Heart K hunting permitted also. F&G Phone 509-575-2740
Post by: ryan2202 on September 11, 2024, 11:40:44 AM
One of RMEF mission statements is gaining land access for hunting. :tup: All the BLM land around says Heart K hunting permitted also. F&G Phone 509-575-2740
That's the number I've called....left a voicemail....no return yet.
Post by: ballpark on September 11, 2024, 11:49:13 AM
One of RMEF mission statements is gaining land access for hunting. :tup: All the BLM land around says Heart K hunting permitted also. F&G Phone 509-575-2740
That's the number I've called....left a voicemail....no return yet.
Michael.Livingston@dfw.wa.gov (Region 3 Director)
Post by: ryan2202 on September 11, 2024, 12:11:54 PM
One of RMEF mission statements is gaining land access for hunting. :tup: All the BLM land around says Heart K hunting permitted also. F&G Phone 509-575-2740
That's the number I've called....left a voicemail....no return yet.
Michael.Livingston@dfw.wa.gov (Region 3 Director)
Thanks! Email sent - I'll post something if/when I get a response.
Post by: MADMAX on September 11, 2024, 12:12:16 PM
Where the bridge goes over the irrigation canal
Cow had come down from the top in the canal
Had 2 broken legs
We were archery hunting and heading home
Saw here in the water wanted to shoot her she was alert and obviously hurt
Called state patrol- they called a warden to meet us
He shot the cow and let us tag her
As we were finishing her up guys came in and they were actively hunting it
It was well posted that’s why we called
Didn’t want the ticket
For what it’s worth :twocents:
Post by: ballpark on September 11, 2024, 12:14:56 PM
Sent you a PM
One of RMEF mission statements is gaining land access for hunting. :tup: All the BLM land around says Heart K hunting permitted also. F&G Phone 509-575-2740
That's the number I've called....left a voicemail....no return yet.
Michael.Livingston@dfw.wa.gov (Region 3 Director)
Thanks! Email sent - I'll post something if/when I get a response.
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Sent you a PM
Post by: ryan2202 on September 11, 2024, 12:17:34 PM
Years ago I was in there with a warden
Where the bridge goes over the irrigation canal
Cow had come down from the top in the canal
Had 2 broken legs
We were archery hunting and heading home
Saw here in the water wanted to shoot her she was alert and obviously hurt
Called state patrol- they called a warden to meet us
He shot the cow and let us tag her
As we were finishing her up guys came in and they were actively hunting it
It was well posted that’s why we called
Didn’t want the ticket
For what it’s worth :twocents:
That was a smart choice! The ticket is the best case scenario hunting an area that is closed and marked as no hunting/no access. Getting mixed signals from reliable resources as well is never fun either - so i'd rather try and chase down what's right, before diving in head first - in this type of situation.
Post by: MADMAX on September 11, 2024, 12:41:55 PM
Good luck in your info search
We asked the warden he said it was being sold
We knocked on doors and got “I just live here I don’t know”
We tried and never got a straight answer
So I just drive on by and head up to Frost Mt
Post by: LDennis24 on September 11, 2024, 01:38:54 PM
Do you have any info to add about his question?
Sure, the land was acquired in 2021 from Heart K for public access improvements and to hold in trust for future generations to gain public access. :dunno: Hunting has always been allowed on the L.T. Murray wildlife area. :dunno: And all I did was a Google search. :dunno:
And lastly,
Don't rely on OnX for anything other than someone to contact for permission. Their borders and property info can be incorrect and is not a legal defense for your mistake.
Post by: ryan2202 on October 10, 2024, 09:29:06 AM
While I was there during my hunt in early September, there was a gorgeous herd of Elk, with a handsome 6 point grazing through. Good to see - overall, for my hunt in that early season was unsuccessful, but between GMU 340 and 336, the elk seem fairly healthy; specifically that herd in the no public access fields held an elusive spike bull, and two true spikes, over two dozen cows and 6 to 8 calves, and of course that bull previously mentioned. Looks like the rehabilitation of natural plant life might be paying off for healthy herd populations.
Post by: steeleywhopper on October 10, 2024, 02:48:43 PM
Don't rely in OnX for anything other than someone to contact for permission. Their borders and property info can be incorrect and is not a legal defense for your mistake.
In this case I'd trust ONX more than Id trust WDFW.. :bash: