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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: julzzz on June 18, 2009, 09:09:23 PM
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I would like to see any picts. of any past margaret bull hunts. I drew a Margaret A rifle permit Nov. 7-17. Any advice :rolleyes:
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My dad's rifle bull from 2000
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe363%2Fbrent_hedden%2FFishing%2520and%2520Hunting%2Felkmount2.jpg&hash=52e14bee7d5f4cde0fede5f5d5ecfc844c646469)
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Nice I am so exited :chuckle: :IBCOOL: :yike:
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I have gotten alot of advice on where to hunt. Is it the toutle side of Margaret or the Randle end off 26 :dunno: It has been a big debate.
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A good place to start scouting is up off the 2612, up by Ryan Lake. There is a washout on the 2612 but it is passable. You'll have to get across the Green river. With the heat that we will have this summer. The ELK are going to be up and back in the draws that stay cool
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I've never drawn a Margaret tag, but have tried many times. My plan has always been to get a camping permit and hunt the Back Country and the north facing slope above the Green River across from Goat Mtn. I've hunted the Winston, Packwood, Lewis, and the old Marble units all around the Margaret and hiked the Loo-Wit and Margaret units. I've seen sizable 6 and 7 points on the eastern and northern end of the unit. Where you hunt will depend largely on how you want to camp. If you want to camp near a road, then I'd be along the 2612 and use Trail 213 to move west. But its all uphill, everday, from there. There is a road (the # of which I don't know) that bi-sects that north facing slope above the Green River. That might provide good hiking access for that steep slope.
I've attached some photos of the Back Country from June, 2007, taken along Boundary Trail 1, so you can see the terrain, if you've not been there. BT 1 is part of the southern boundary of the Margaret in that area. These photos are just south of the Margaret but are representative of the area. The elk were mostly 5 points that day. The lake in the photo is St. Helens lake. The BT 1 trail passes through a natural rock arch, which is worth the hike.
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Here is a picture taken by Dean44 and posted in the "Washington: Where am I?" photo game in the general discussion forum. The picture is taken from Goat Mtn. looking south across the Green River at the Backcountry. The slope in the main of the picture is the north facing slope I referenced in my earlier post, showing the logging roads that bisect the slope.
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my buddy got a big one outa there but last time i brought it up no one believed me so never mind
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littlebuf - post some pictures - i still want to see this monster. I have seen some big bulls up there, but that was all 15 years ago, when I was in high school. I have only been up there once since 2000.
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i hadn't talked to him in a while and apparently he' going through kind of a nasty divorce/separation thing ( i try to stay out of details) but there's kids involved also so digging up picks for me probably isn't real high on the priority list, i didnt even ask and if he's moved he might not even have the mount any more witch would be pretty sad also, if i can get a pick i will, i haven't forgotten
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No trophies anywhere near Mt. St. Helens. Don't waste your time.
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:liar:
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I would go in a bit farther south than the 2612. Take the Nordic trail in, it takes you past Grizzly lake, and on into the other lakes and valleys there.
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I would go in a bit farther south than the 2612. Take the Nordic trail in, it takes you past Grizzly lake, and on into the other lakes and valleys there.
Huntbear, I think you mean the Norway Pass Trailhead, to the Lakes Trail... ;)
Another thing that you'll need to consider about hunting up there is the amount of snow in mid-November that you may encounter...It could be pretty substantial.
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I have followed this site for quite sometime but never logged in before. With that said my 13 year old son had this permit last year and we had a great time. I spent a lot of time in there last year and unless you have alot of time, strong back or several guys willing to pack, Norway Pass will be very tough. No animals allowed to pack and you will have to hike in for several hours and then pack out on your own. There are some very nice bulls in there but it will be VERY tough to get them out. We hunted from the other side and saw plenty of bulls. We only saw a couple of really nice bulls but there are alot of decent bulls in there. However, you might need to get out of the pickup and hunt. I would be glad to give you some advice on places to start and you should have a great hunt, just don't get in a hurry. There are also a few canyons that I am sure that if you went down in you would find tons of elk and some nice bulls.
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--- One of the Baddest Bulls I have ever seen came right from the Middle of the margarat, the big ones your not going to find right of the roads though! Don't let people disscourage you into thinking its all 5Pt's and small 6is because if you scout you will find nice bulls, maybee not Boone and Crockett record breakers but definitely a wall hanger!
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SI Eagle - Did you and your son have any success? Show some pictures and the rest of the story - lots of folks would love to hear success in Margaret.
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This tag is a great tag but also needs to be taken very serious because settling for a dink on the last day is not far fetched. Believe me, you will see plenty of bulls, majority of which will be like the one that has be posted but a lot more smaller ones. The thing you need to realize is you are hunting these bulls long after the rut and any bull that would be considered a monster will be far away from any herd and held up in the thick stuff. Believe me, i live next door the this unit and have my whole life and have seen great animals there, but believing the hype and not taking it serious will just give you a filled tag. Do yourself a favor, get in shape go way deeper than the next guy because if there was a tag that meant hard work will pay off it is this one. Good luck and kill a big one. By the way how many points did you have?
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I had 12
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shawn ryan , i have been on that logging road in the last pic.it was quite a hike :yike:
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I got drawn for it last year and got a 5 x 5. Another hunter that was near us when I shot mine came over and shot a 4 x 5 that was hanging with the one I shot. He posted his pictures on here last year. The elk are everywhere in the unit but you will see the most at the most eastern end of the unit. The trees have not grown up as much from the blast so you can see a lot more.
The unit will probably be open for you to drive in it when your season starts and maybe a little before it. I would spend as much time as possible driving the roads and going on hikes at any good looking spots.
Eco Park is where a lot of hunters stay and is next to the unit. It can be hard to get hold of them to get a spot but it still fills up fast.
I will be with a friend for the Archery hunt this year in that unit as he got one of those 7 tags.
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tntklundt, I like the curve in his main beams. Nice bull.
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Thanks, he is my first bull. He is currently hanging out at Realistic Taxidermy waiting to be mounted.
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TntKlundt. That's a dandy bull for sure. That is not your average westside general unit bull. I don't care what anybody says. He ain't no rag horn. I get tired of the guys on here who say the Margaret tag is a waste of points. Well done.
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I would go in a bit farther south than the 2612. Take the Nordic trail in, it takes you past Grizzly lake, and on into the other lakes and valleys there.
Huntbear, I think you mean the Norway Pass Trailhead, to the Lakes Trail... ;)
Another thing that you'll need to consider about hunting up there is the amount of snow in mid-November that you may encounter...It could be pretty substantial.
Yea that is the one JoeVon..... someone called it that telling me about it, and that is all I have ever called it.... and the snow will bury you in a hurry up there once it starts...
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Just like skuckum said, dont believe what people say or you too will shoot a lil rag :hello:, ya their are some rags like the ones people posted.. :chuckle:.. But get in their and do your homework.. I too have seen some absolute doniger 300 + bulls in their.. Get good boots and go deep!! Good luck..
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NIce pics Antlershed and Shawn Ryan. i am an eastern huntin boy. Dont know much about the area.
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I wana see all these pictures and videos of all the 300 + bulls people have comming out thier arses :chuckle: Lets see some pics or something, I need some wood :chuckle:
Good looking bull tntklundt!
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Bucklucky, just cause you got your nuts off on a big blues bull.. about said blue balls..lol but its definatley not like the earley 90's but their are some toads in their.. I would be pumped to draw Margret.. for west side in SW its a mighty fine tag.. Just do your home work..
If you listen to Bucklucky on these westside units your hunt would make you :cryriver:! So dont buy into it.. Scout and you will have a hunt of a life time.. Be patient..
:hello: bucklucky!! ..
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I agree fully :chuckle: Ive been spoiled....now back to wetside reality :'(
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dont apply for the margeret. theres nothing there but cows and five points. ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Dude if you dont get the info you need pm me and I will help I hunted both sides 5+ miles in on my back. shoot the first 6 point you see.
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good luck i got a tag to
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I DREW A TAG TOO FOR THE SAME HUNT :IBCOOL:ARE LOOKING FOR A HUNTING PARTNER? SEND ME AN PM OR EMAIL LETS TALK GOOD LUCK LETS WORK TOGETHER
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I hunted in there 20 days last year. Fantastic hunt. Anyone looking for some info, I'll help.
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Marata creek
Scout it and you will not believe what you see.
Now thats its locked down get on the Mt Bike
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I would keep checking the Weyco hotline. As of right now all access on the tree farm is prohibited including walk-in, bike-in, or horse back.
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TntKlundt. That's a dandy bull for sure. That is not your average westside general unit bull. I don't care what anybody says. He ain't no rag horn. I get tired of the guys on here who say the Margaret tag is a waste of points. Well done.
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Thanks everyone, I like him too. I can't wait to see him everyday on my wall!
