Post by: mtncook on October 01, 2024, 08:14:29 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on October 01, 2024, 08:36:37 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on October 01, 2024, 08:51:43 PM
Geeeez I would think he could take him to court or get the attorney general on it. So this guy gets barred from offering hunts ever again.
What’s up? You just give a guy 6500. On his word?
Post by: follow maggie on October 01, 2024, 08:52:20 PM
Post by: MADMAX on October 01, 2024, 08:54:47 PM
Post by: jrebel on October 01, 2024, 09:58:43 PM
Post by: Skillet on October 02, 2024, 12:11:56 AM
The trick this guy is pulling - if he's one and the shane I'm thing of - is that he targets people who have much more to lose trying to recoup their money than he does fighting them for it.
Post by: LDennis24 on October 02, 2024, 06:18:34 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on October 02, 2024, 06:29:24 AM
For the OP
Was a hunt not provided as paid for..
Was a hunt provided but in his typical backyard of some neighborhood manner..
6k buys some really good Western hunts...but not with this dude.
Id also probably make a complaint with Fish and Wildlife.
Post by: LDennis24 on October 02, 2024, 06:29:42 AM
Post by: LDennis24 on October 02, 2024, 06:37:41 AM
Post by: jrebel on October 02, 2024, 06:59:37 AM
Post by: elkrack on October 02, 2024, 07:12:27 AM
He can't be that hard to find. He obviously spends some time in the woods. I would give him one chance to refund my money.....then.....well, we will leave that everyone's imagination. ;)
He’s not hard to find. sits on the side of 264th staring at elk on private land a lot. Unreal how this guy gets away with this crap still
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 02, 2024, 08:23:49 AM
There's a common phrase where I live - "We'll take him crabbing"
The trick this guy is pulling - if he's one and the shane I'm thing of - is that he targets people who have much more to lose trying to recoup their money than he does fighting them for it.
There's another saying. "RIP, take him to the train station."
Post by: JakeLand on October 02, 2024, 08:30:25 AM
Post by: dreadi on October 02, 2024, 09:35:40 AM
BLACK HAMMER ARMS
07/02 NFA Dealer
http://www.blackhammerarms.com
http://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarms
https://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms
Post by: Mtnwalker on October 02, 2024, 09:46:31 AM
Who is being talked about and how do others learn to avoid him?
BLACK HAMMER ARMS
07/02 NFA Dealer
http://www.blackhammerarms.com
http://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarms
https://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms
See the links that LDennis posted. It is unreal that this guy is still scamming people, and that these shows are still giving him a space to do so
Post by: jrebel on October 02, 2024, 10:35:42 AM
I did find two accounts for a Shane Barbour Jr. in the general area he is in. One shows he works as a taxidermist. Is this him??? If so.....he doesn't look like a guy I would give money to for a hunting guide. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: brew on October 02, 2024, 11:03:42 AM
I can't find any pictures of this guy anywhere. No web page, no facebook page, nothing. Only thing you find about him is the negative reviews......This AMAZES me that anyone would give him money.on one of those links that LDennis posted if you look around you can find a pic of Burnworth with his bull and a dark hair dude. Assume that's him. Baffles me how people give others a lot of loot without doing some homework. I'm not real good with confusers but I can figure that out
I did find two accounts for a Shane Barbour Jr. in the general area he is in. One shows he works as a taxidermist. Is this him??? If so.....he doesn't look like a guy I would give money to for a hunting guide. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Mtnwalker on October 02, 2024, 11:20:32 AM
I can't find any pictures of this guy anywhere. No web page, no facebook page, nothing. Only thing you find about him is the negative reviews......This AMAZES me that anyone would give him money.on one of those links that LDennis posted if you look around you can find a pic of Burnworth with his bull and a dark hair dude. Assume that's him. Baffles me how people give others a lot of loot without doing some homework. I'm not real good with confusers but I can figure that out
I did find two accounts for a Shane Barbour Jr. in the general area he is in. One shows he works as a taxidermist. Is this him??? If so.....he doesn't look like a guy I would give money to for a hunting guide. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: dreadi on October 02, 2024, 11:20:42 AM
BLACK HAMMER ARMS
07/02 NFA Dealer
http://www.blackhammerarms.com
http://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarms
https://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms
Post by: 2MANY on October 02, 2024, 11:44:19 AM
Post by: ducks4days on October 02, 2024, 12:43:44 PM
Post by: Bob33 on October 02, 2024, 01:27:53 PM
How does the scam even work? If paid electronically or by check you can just ask your bank not to honor it and reverse the transaction. If people are paying cash for something before they receive it..... its an expensive way to learn a lesson but some of the responsibility sits on the victims to not be duped so easily.I believe he uses Venmo which instantly transfers funds. There is no recourse once the transfer is made.
https://help.venmo.com/hc/en-us/articles/235171088-Cancel-Payment
Post by: elkrack on October 02, 2024, 02:21:10 PM
How does the scam even work? If paid electronically or by check you can just ask your bank not to honor it and reverse the transaction. If people are paying cash for something before they receive it..... its an expensive way to learn a lesson but some of the responsibility sits on the victims to not be duped so easily.
If you read Ldennis link Shane auctioned off a “hunt of a lifetime “ on his Facebook page then after the winner “won” the auction he said bring a buddy at the same price. Doubled his money! Scammer big time
Post by: ducks4days on October 02, 2024, 04:33:38 PM
How does the scam even work? If paid electronically or by check you can just ask your bank not to honor it and reverse the transaction. If people are paying cash for something before they receive it..... its an expensive way to learn a lesson but some of the responsibility sits on the victims to not be duped so easily.I believe he uses Venmo which instantly transfers funds. There is no recourse once the transfer is made.
https://help.venmo.com/hc/en-us/articles/235171088-Cancel-Payment
Venmo absolutely allows you to dispute transactions and will reverse transactions with evidence that no goods or services was received.
Post by: LDennis24 on October 02, 2024, 04:43:38 PM
Post by: crazywednesday on October 02, 2024, 04:51:32 PM
Was he really on Western Extreme also?Season 10 episode 2!
Post by: ducks4days on October 02, 2024, 04:52:07 PM
How does the scam even work? If paid electronically or by check you can just ask your bank not to honor it and reverse the transaction. If people are paying cash for something before they receive it..... its an expensive way to learn a lesson but some of the responsibility sits on the victims to not be duped so easily.
If you read Ldennis link Shane auctioned off a “hunt of a lifetime “ on his Facebook page then after the winner “won” the auction he said bring a buddy at the same price. Doubled his money! Scammer big time
I read the post. This dude is scum no doubt about it, but being a bad guide and overcharging / deceiving people is not the same as taking the money and running. I’d never willingly associate myself with somebody like that, but so far nobody has pointed to a crime.
Post by: coachcw on October 02, 2024, 05:31:03 PM
Post by: Mtnwalker on October 02, 2024, 06:37:33 PM
How does the scam even work? If paid electronically or by check you can just ask your bank not to honor it and reverse the transaction. If people are paying cash for something before they receive it..... its an expensive way to learn a lesson but some of the responsibility sits on the victims to not be duped so easily.
If you read Ldennis link Shane auctioned off a “hunt of a lifetime “ on his Facebook page then after the winner “won” the auction he said bring a buddy at the same price. Doubled his money! Scammer big time
I read the post. This dude is scum no doubt about it, but being a bad guide and overcharging / deceiving people is not the same as taking the money and running. I’d never willingly associate myself with somebody like that, but so far nobody has pointed to a crime.
Purposely deceiving people is exactly like taking somebodys money and running. Maybe not legally speaking, but morally it still makes you scamming garbage. Selling somebody a fully guided hunt on thousands of acres and then parking them on your buddy's 20 acre piece next to his broken down cars to fend for themselves is as good as stealing.
Its a bummer that Burnworth continues to give this guy a platform, I'm sure plenty of people have booked with him based on that alone.
Post by: MADMAX on October 02, 2024, 07:09:28 PM
Post by: kodiak06 on October 03, 2024, 09:19:42 AM