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Title: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: huntnnw on November 12, 2024, 11:00:13 PM
I saw this posted on fb yesterday and found it interesting and left me wondering if it’s true. $150 ticket is nothing compared to a NR trip coming from outta state.
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: Buzz2401 on November 12, 2024, 11:11:28 PM
Ya it's a dumb rule. We hunted WY this year and were talking to some locals about the wilderness rule and they didn't even know about it.  Crazy they don't let you hunt public land.
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: huntnnw on November 12, 2024, 11:24:58 PM
Ya it's a dumb rule. We hunted WY this year and were talking to some locals about the wilderness rule and they didn't even know about it.  Crazy they don't let you hunt public land.

pretty stupid and anything they can "designate" wilderness they do! there were pieces right out of a city with roads all around and couldnt legally hunt it. Yet if you wanted to hike, fish or grouse hunt thats legal  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 13, 2024, 07:49:00 AM
Just another way to squeeze more money out of non residents pockets. Just like NM has been doing.
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: Mtnwalker on November 13, 2024, 08:14:03 AM
Wyoming is very heavily influenced by outfitters. I'd say they benefit much more from this than the state does. Agree it's a ridiculous rule, but also wonder why killing an animal in a no-go area wouldn't be the same as say killing one in a different unit that you don't have a tag for
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: ducks4days on November 13, 2024, 09:46:36 AM
It is a bit weird that the state of Wyoming is regulating access to federal wilderness lands

Any law for which the violation is a fine is not a ban, it is a fee

Wyoming is charging a $150 fee for out of state hunters to access federal wilderness areas, and only if they are caught and cited by a game warden in the field

Seems like a law worth violating to me  :twocents:

Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: addicted1 on November 13, 2024, 01:10:17 PM
Yeah, I think they recently discussed this on a meateater podcast. They seemed to be under the impression it wouldn’t hold up in any court, just need someone to fight it. But, for such a low cost of a ticket might not be worth the headache.
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: Knocker of rocks on November 13, 2024, 04:28:24 PM
It is a bit weird that the state of Wyoming is regulating access to federal wilderness lands

Any law for which the violation is a fine is not a ban, it is a fee

Wyoming is charging a $150 fee for out of state hunters to access federal wilderness areas, and only if they are caught and cited by a game warden in the field

Seems like a law worth violating to me  :twocents:

They are regulating hunting in wilderness areas, not access. States regulate hunting on federal land, but not access.

Much like Alaska
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Wyoming statute says nonresidents must have a licensed guide or resident companion to hunt big or trophy game in federally designated wilderness areas. The resident companion will need to get a free non-commercial guide license from a Game and Fish office



https://wgfd.wyo.gov/hunting-trapping/hunting-trapping-frequently-asked-questions#:~:text=Wyoming%20statute%20says%20nonresidents%20must,a%20Game%20and%20Fish%20office.




Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: ducks4days on November 13, 2024, 05:13:19 PM
It is a bit weird that the state of Wyoming is regulating access to federal wilderness lands

Any law for which the violation is a fine is not a ban, it is a fee

Wyoming is charging a $150 fee for out of state hunters to access federal wilderness areas, and only if they are caught and cited by a game warden in the field

Seems like a law worth violating to me  :twocents:

They are regulating hunting in wilderness areas, not access. States regulate hunting on federal land, but not access.

Much like Alaska
Quote

Wyoming statute says nonresidents must have a licensed guide or resident companion to hunt big or trophy game in federally designated wilderness areas. The resident companion will need to get a free non-commercial guide license from a Game and Fish office



https://wgfd.wyo.gov/hunting-trapping/hunting-trapping-frequently-asked-questions#:~:text=Wyoming%20statute%20says%20nonresidents%20must,a%20Game%20and%20Fish%20office.

Ah, good point.
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: time2hunt on November 14, 2024, 12:33:22 PM
The locals and outfitters usually took care of out of state hunters in the wilderness. I’ve heard of and seen flat tires at trail heads on the wilderness boundary in G and H


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Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: Knocker of rocks on November 14, 2024, 12:55:03 PM
Greed and xenophobia sucks
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: baker5150 on November 14, 2024, 12:56:31 PM
Ya it's a dumb rule. We hunted WY this year and were talking to some locals about the wilderness rule and they didn't even know about it.  Crazy they don't let you hunt public land.

pretty stupid and anything they can "designate" wilderness they do! there were pieces right out of a city with roads all around and couldnt legally hunt it. Yet if you wanted to hike, fish or grouse hunt thats legal  :rolleyes:

Who?   The state of Wyoming?

I'm fairly certain only Congress can designate wilderness areas by passing Federal Law.
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: steeleywhopper on November 14, 2024, 01:50:32 PM
I'd take a $150 ticket to hunt and not lose my animal. Chump change compared to hiring a guide...
In reality my folks live in Wyoming and my dad goes and gets something from Game and Fish so he can take us into the wilderness area if need be. I think it's only cost him a few bucks to do so.
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: pickardjw on November 14, 2024, 06:31:21 PM
Is the hunting in the wilderness really THAT much better?
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: ducks4days on November 14, 2024, 06:34:24 PM
Is the hunting in the wilderness really THAT much better?

It’s probably worse than on private land down in the valleys. But if the law says you need to pay either way…
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: Buzz2401 on November 14, 2024, 07:16:09 PM
Is the hunting in the wilderness really THAT much better?
The unit we hunted this year was heavily pressured yet most of the wilderness trailheads were empty. We still went 2 for 5 but we seen elk in wilderness we couldn't go after
Title: Re: Wyoming NR wilderness violations
Post by: highcountry_hunter on November 14, 2024, 08:20:03 PM
Well there ya go. Now all the whining NR’s on rokslide who’ve been complaining about it and trying to figure out a way to get the law changed can just hit the ATM on their way to Wyoming and feel free to do whatever the hell they want wherever they wanna do it.


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