Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 09, 2024, 11:14:03 PM
The Good - last year before the draw.
The bad - driving or getting a tag Mule to purchase in Idaho.
The Ugly - trying to get a tag online
Gave up online couple years ago. Good Luck to those 60,000 brave soles trying.
Anyone trying?
Post by: zwickeyman on December 10, 2024, 03:53:08 AM
DAV Elk and Deer for my son
DAV ELK and Deer for his buddy
Deer for my buddy
Elk for my buddy
Buy 1 then to the back of the line and so on, We will see
Last year was successful at getting 2 buddies Elk tags
P.S. THIS IS STUPID
Post by: buglebuster on December 10, 2024, 04:11:26 AM
Post by: 2MANY on December 10, 2024, 05:47:29 AM
Post by: jaredwitman on December 10, 2024, 07:14:39 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 10, 2024, 07:25:18 AM
I know lots of people that made the drive...the lines are growing..
Hopefully this year goes smoothly but we'll see...
I hate this system...
Post by: skipjack on December 10, 2024, 07:44:02 AM
Post by: Lightning_Rider on December 10, 2024, 07:45:27 AM
Idaho - here we go, the good, the bad and the ugly.
The Good - last year before the draw.
The bad - driving or getting a tag Mule to purchase in Idaho.
The Ugly - trying to get a tag online
Gave up online couple years ago. Good Luck to those 60,000 brave soles trying.
Anyone trying?
I dont believe this is the last year before the draw. Pretty sure we'll be doing this again one last time next year...
House Bill 696 would create Section 36-419, Idaho Code, to say, "On and after November 15, 2026, any deer, elk, or pronghorn antelope tag or permit will not be available for sale on a first-come, first-served basis to a nonresident who is subject to a general hunt tag quota set pursuant to section 36-408, Idaho Code, unless that tag is unclaimed, returned, or otherwise unsold after being made available through at least one (1) drawing or otherwise set aside as a tag for outfitted hunter use pursuant to section 36-408, Idaho Code.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 10, 2024, 08:17:02 AM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on December 10, 2024, 08:19:05 AM
Post by: Lightning_Rider on December 10, 2024, 08:33:51 AM
I get why people don't like it but personally I love it. Current system ensures that every year I'm gonna have an ID tag in my pocket. A draw.....not so much. I've never bought in person either. Always online.
I personally love it because i've managed to get my tags as well. For a solo hunter its not as bad, for a group looking to plan a hunt together, computer lottery is not the way to go...
Post by: bornhunter on December 10, 2024, 08:51:14 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 10, 2024, 08:51:26 AM
I get why people don't like it but personally I love it. Current system ensures that every year I'm gonna have an ID tag in my pocket. A draw.....not so much. I've never bought in person either. Always online.
Are you getting #10,000 + and waiting 4 hours to get any remaining deer tag?
Or just incredibly lucky? We try for average elk area and last time son was number 1800 (out of 30k+) and tags were still gone. Five of us putting ing were number 10,000 plus on average.
Post by: ctwiggs1 on December 10, 2024, 09:01:43 AM
yikes, at least this is online and I'm not standing outside :chuckle:
Post by: Buckhunter24 on December 10, 2024, 09:02:09 AM
Post by: Bigfoot28 on December 10, 2024, 09:03:31 AM
Post by: stonefly on December 10, 2024, 09:05:43 AM
Post by: jowings22 on December 10, 2024, 09:05:56 AM
Post by: Longfield1 on December 10, 2024, 09:06:45 AM
Post by: skipjack on December 10, 2024, 09:07:54 AM
Post by: Longfield1 on December 10, 2024, 09:09:27 AM
Post by: Heiny on December 10, 2024, 09:11:56 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 10, 2024, 09:12:34 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 10, 2024, 09:12:50 AM
#8 and doneGo buy a lottery ticket you are having a lucky day!!!!!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 10, 2024, 09:14:03 AM
I've only ever had a sub 10k number once and that was last year. People need to remember that the numbers in the que are total devices NOT total number of people. I have 21k as my lowest number this year. Also the total number DOES NOT RESET. if you log in at 4pm this evening your que number will probably be over 70k but you'll get in immediately because obviously there's nobody in line as all tags will be gone.I get why people don't like it but personally I love it. Current system ensures that every year I'm gonna have an ID tag in my pocket. A draw.....not so much. I've never bought in person either. Always online.
Are you getting #10,000 + and waiting 4 hours to get any remaining deer tag?
Or just incredibly lucky? We try for average elk area and last time son was number 1800 (out of 30k+) and tags were still gone. Five of us putting ing were number 10,000 plus on average.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 10, 2024, 09:14:58 AM
Post by: Antlershed on December 10, 2024, 09:16:57 AM
Post by: carlyoungs on December 10, 2024, 09:19:10 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 10, 2024, 09:20:23 AM
35,601…..so you’re telling me there’s a chance…. :chuckle:
The losers lounge still has open seats if you head over now - filling fast. :-)
Post by: HillHound on December 10, 2024, 09:22:10 AM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on December 10, 2024, 09:32:14 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 10, 2024, 09:36:51 AM
Post by: X-Force on December 10, 2024, 09:40:09 AM
Not looking good at all
Post by: Buckhunter24 on December 10, 2024, 09:40:38 AM
Post by: steeleywhopper on December 10, 2024, 09:42:16 AM
Never hunted Idaho before, this ought to be a fun whitetail hunt!
Post by: Sneaky Squirrel on December 10, 2024, 09:43:31 AM
Post by: 2MANY on December 10, 2024, 09:48:28 AM
Assuming you will be fine.
Post by: trophyhunt on December 10, 2024, 09:53:55 AM
Post by: bustedoldman on December 10, 2024, 09:55:35 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 10, 2024, 09:56:01 AM
Would be nice if they would allow groups as one purchase, at least up to four people.And my group would be number 43,000 in line !
Post by: highside74 on December 10, 2024, 09:59:43 AM
Post by: JSchmitt83 on December 10, 2024, 10:00:27 AM
Post by: elkaholic123 on December 10, 2024, 10:00:39 AM
Post by: hunter_sean08 on December 10, 2024, 10:20:23 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 10, 2024, 10:21:45 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 10, 2024, 10:24:27 AM
Whats left for Elk ????
Not much
Post by: TeacherMan on December 10, 2024, 10:29:12 AM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on December 10, 2024, 10:47:03 AM
Post by: bear on December 10, 2024, 10:48:22 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 10, 2024, 10:49:08 AM
Brutal. Wasn't expecting to se 8A gone this early
Ya that was crazy to see.
Post by: Shooter4 on December 10, 2024, 10:53:38 AM
Post by: teanawayslayer on December 10, 2024, 10:57:08 AM
Post by: 300rum on December 10, 2024, 10:57:18 AM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on December 10, 2024, 10:59:41 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 10, 2024, 11:02:38 AM
Post by: Brushbuster on December 10, 2024, 11:07:25 AM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on December 10, 2024, 11:07:55 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 10, 2024, 11:08:30 AM
Is anyone else's "number of users in line" frozen at the same number for the last 15 minutes?
Yes
Post by: Buckhunter24 on December 10, 2024, 11:12:23 AM
Post by: millerwheeler on December 10, 2024, 11:12:50 AM
Post by: 2MANY on December 10, 2024, 11:27:10 AM
Son & I got our Deer and Elk tags. Whoop!!!!
Congrats.
It's beautiful country.
Post by: Dirtnap on December 10, 2024, 11:27:50 AM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on December 10, 2024, 11:28:28 AM
Post by: outdooraddict on December 10, 2024, 11:29:51 AM
Post by: blackpowderhunter on December 10, 2024, 11:47:37 AM
who wants to take bets on when Idaho goes to lottery only for non res?
unfortunately it seems like the only way to reliably get non res tags is to have a buddy in the state buy them in person, and now even thats becoming a s show.
buddy who bought mine said someone in line bought 10 licenses, 10 elk tags, 8 deer tags, and a dozen wolf.
Post by: raydog on December 10, 2024, 11:49:20 AM
got my elk tag and license.There should be a limit on tags purchased at once... that's insane.
who wants to take bets on when Idaho goes to lottery only for non res?
unfortunately it seems like the only way to reliably get non res tags is to have a buddy in the state buy them in person, and now even thats becoming a s show.
buddy who bought mine said someone in line bought 10 licenses, 10 elk tags, 8 deer tags, and a dozen wolf.
I'm betting one more year of this zoo then draw only
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 10, 2024, 11:51:49 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on December 10, 2024, 12:05:27 PM
Post by: leonpeon2 on December 10, 2024, 12:11:01 PM
Post by: zwickeyman on December 10, 2024, 12:14:35 PM
We were number 7 in line. Computer issues for 15 minutes before they finally got up and running. I was on my phone with number 340. My number came up when we were next in line, logged in and all the tags we wanted were gone. Walked out, driving 6 hours home empty handed.
That sucks :bash:
Post by: zwickeyman on December 10, 2024, 12:17:02 PM
got my elk tag and license.There should be a limit on tags purchased at once... that's insane.
who wants to take bets on when Idaho goes to lottery only for non res?
unfortunately it seems like the only way to reliably get non res tags is to have a buddy in the state buy them in person, and now even thats becoming a s show.
buddy who bought mine said someone in line bought 10 licenses, 10 elk tags, 8 deer tags, and a dozen wolf.
I'm betting one more year of this zoo then draw only
The store I was at this morning, rules were you could buy for 2 guys then you get in back of line. I got it line 3 times but bought in order of how fast they sell out.
Post by: Sliverslinger on December 10, 2024, 12:18:15 PM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on December 10, 2024, 12:19:28 PM
got my elk tag and license.There should be a limit on tags purchased at once... that's insane.
who wants to take bets on when Idaho goes to lottery only for non res?
unfortunately it seems like the only way to reliably get non res tags is to have a buddy in the state buy them in person, and now even thats becoming a s show.
buddy who bought mine said someone in line bought 10 licenses, 10 elk tags, 8 deer tags, and a dozen wolf.
I'm betting one more year of this zoo then draw only
The store I was at this morning, rules were you could buy for 2 guys then you get in back of line. I got it line 3 times but bought in order of how fast they sell out.
Were the lines in Victor long? I'm wondering what part of ID has the shortest lines. Can't imagine the WY crowd crossing over to hunt ID, but maybe I'm wrong?!
Post by: Bigfoot28 on December 10, 2024, 12:24:09 PM
Post by: zwickeyman on December 10, 2024, 12:27:26 PM
got my elk tag and license.There should be a limit on tags purchased at once... that's insane.
who wants to take bets on when Idaho goes to lottery only for non res?
unfortunately it seems like the only way to reliably get non res tags is to have a buddy in the state buy them in person, and now even thats becoming a s show.
buddy who bought mine said someone in line bought 10 licenses, 10 elk tags, 8 deer tags, and a dozen wolf.
I'm betting one more year of this zoo then draw only
The store I was at this morning, rules were you could buy for 2 guys then you get in back of line. I got it line 3 times but bought in order of how fast they sell out.
Were the lines in Victor long? I'm wondering what part of ID has the shortest lines. Can't imagine the WY crowd crossing over to hunt ID, but maybe I'm wrong?!
Shawn,
I got there at 7:30 and was 2nd in line, they opened the doors at 9:45. Got 3 Elk tags and 3 Deer tags for 4 guys in about 35 minutes. Probably about 10 or 11 people total so not bad considering some of the BS everyone went through this morning. Guys from Tennesee and Maryland today
Post by: zwickeyman on December 10, 2024, 12:29:02 PM
I got in and after much hoopla landed a Big Desert A tag, I had done a bunch of online research looking at the past few years and it was very high on my list of if I had the chance, based on harvest % and big bull %. No idea if it’s actually as good as the numbers show- I normally hunt north of there.
Some great Bulls in Big Desert but can be a challenge. Good luck to you Sir
Post by: Shawn Ryan on December 10, 2024, 12:44:53 PM
got my elk tag and license.There should be a limit on tags purchased at once... that's insane.
who wants to take bets on when Idaho goes to lottery only for non res?
unfortunately it seems like the only way to reliably get non res tags is to have a buddy in the state buy them in person, and now even thats becoming a s show.
buddy who bought mine said someone in line bought 10 licenses, 10 elk tags, 8 deer tags, and a dozen wolf.
I'm betting one more year of this zoo then draw only
The store I was at this morning, rules were you could buy for 2 guys then you get in back of line. I got it line 3 times but bought in order of how fast they sell out.
Were the lines in Victor long? I'm wondering what part of ID has the shortest lines. Can't imagine the WY crowd crossing over to hunt ID, but maybe I'm wrong?!
Shawn,
I got there at 7:30 and was 2nd in line, they opened the doors at 9:45. Got 3 Elk tags and 3 Deer tags for 4 guys in about 35 minutes. Probably about 10 or 11 people total so not bad considering some of the BS everyone went through this morning. Guys from Tennesee and Maryland today
Were the guys from TN and MA in person, in Victor? Were they at least skiing at Grand Targhee?
Post by: ljsommer on December 10, 2024, 12:52:11 PM
My friends and family failed to get the tags they were looking for so I dropped out of queue and will just try to put together a fun plan in WA.
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on December 10, 2024, 12:59:08 PM
Post by: zwickeyman on December 10, 2024, 01:05:53 PM
got my elk tag and license.There should be a limit on tags purchased at once... that's insane.
who wants to take bets on when Idaho goes to lottery only for non res?
unfortunately it seems like the only way to reliably get non res tags is to have a buddy in the state buy them in person, and now even thats becoming a s show.
buddy who bought mine said someone in line bought 10 licenses, 10 elk tags, 8 deer tags, and a dozen wolf.
I'm betting one more year of this zoo then draw only
The store I was at this morning, rules were you could buy for 2 guys then you get in back of line. I got it line 3 times but bought in order of how fast they sell out.
Were the lines in Victor long? I'm wondering what part of ID has the shortest lines. Can't imagine the WY crowd crossing over to hunt ID, but maybe I'm wrong?!
Shawn,
I got there at 7:30 and was 2nd in line, they opened the doors at 9:45. Got 3 Elk tags and 3 Deer tags for 4 guys in about 35 minutes. Probably about 10 or 11 people total so not bad considering some of the BS everyone went through this morning. Guys from Tennesee and Maryland today
Were the guys from TN and MA in person, in Victor? Were they at least skiing at Grand Targhee?
They were only here to get tags
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 10, 2024, 01:47:30 PM
Post by: ganghis on December 10, 2024, 01:58:10 PM
The Idaho out of state situation is one of those that makes me question that whole "Hunting population is declining, we need more hunters" thing. If there's so many hunters that we overwhelm out of state license opportunities then I don't see how there's anything other than "too many" hunters for the available tag opportunities.
My friends and family failed to get the tags they were looking for so I dropped out of queue and will just try to put together a fun plan in WA.
Clearly there's more demand than ever for western big game hunting, so I think it's mainly declines in whitetail hunters in the midwest and east coast that are driving declines in overall hunter numbers nationwide.
Post by: addicted1 on December 10, 2024, 02:42:31 PM
Post by: Longfield1 on December 10, 2024, 03:02:54 PM
The downside to the current system is those high sought after tags are gone so fast so if there was a draw you would atleast have a chance every 2-5 years to hunt any unit you want.
I got my panhandle elk like last year and now after hunting there in September i know more than I did.
Post by: NKAS on December 10, 2024, 03:33:51 PM
Post by: Longfield1 on December 10, 2024, 03:34:51 PM
Looks like it's all sold out? Or am I missing something?
All elk and deer tags are gone.
Post by: bearhunter99 on December 10, 2024, 03:42:26 PM
Post by: actionshooter on December 10, 2024, 03:49:30 PM
Also talked to a friend who told me there were more than a couple guys who had flown into Boise just to buy tags.
We got our A Elk tags, but this is crazy
Post by: CarbonHunter on December 10, 2024, 04:04:15 PM
If you are unsure if you want to hunt a tag you should not have bought it. You likely took that tag from someone who may have a long term camp or friends in that unit. There is way too many tags getting returned after this frenzy each year.
The people lining up is crazy. We drove over last night with plans of staying at a hotel and getting up this morning and getting in line. While driving over we got word that there was already a line formed at the door of the store we go to. We ended up buying sleeping bags and chairs and joining the line at 10:30 last night and if we would have performed our initial plan we would not have gotten our tags.
They need to make this a draw just like they tried to last year. If anyone on here lives in Idaho please write your legislative rep and ask them to get a law passed.
Post by: addicted1 on December 10, 2024, 04:08:37 PM
Post by: Shooter4 on December 10, 2024, 04:13:31 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 10, 2024, 04:21:41 PM
Post by: CarbonHunter on December 10, 2024, 04:24:21 PM
Why make another draw, you think that’s going to help? Only more people will be applying at that point. At least with route if you want to go you can, a draw will not help you out.
Draws allow groups to put in together. Idaho has some unique rules in their draw that if you apply for moose, goat or sheep you can’t apply for other tags and they have a rule about allowing unlimited 1st choices for some hunts. If they build the draw right they could create opportunities for groups to return to the same area each year and make it unattractive to apply for the general otc tags if you want to apply for something else.
That would likely reduce some of this fiasco but having repercussions for people applying or buying unwanted tags that they can just get a refund for later.
Post by: MackDaddy509 on December 10, 2024, 04:52:58 PM
My brother in law and I got our Panhandle Regulars... gonna try for muleys and hunt whitetails in between. Congrats to all that braved the cluster this morning and got a tag :tup:
Post by: SpicyTacos on December 10, 2024, 04:56:41 PM
Also got a wolf tag. You never know.
But hey if you are *censored*ed up for antlers and did not get your tags you wanted. Go for some predators and quit yer whining. Black bear "eats" as my teenage kids say.
Spring bear is the best and I got my tag for that as well.
Good luck out there
Post by: bear on December 10, 2024, 05:49:17 PM
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 10, 2024, 05:56:57 PM
Post by: Dark2Dark on December 10, 2024, 06:05:19 PM
If I showed up anywhere last night or this morning and there was already a huge line I would have kept driving.
I talked to a few friends that bought in person today- one said there were only a couple people to buy and the other said they were the only ones. Being 50th or something last night or four hours before the sale this morning woulda been a quick no for me.
Congrats to everyone that got tags. I also have mixed feelings about it going to a draw.
Post by: greenhead_killer on December 10, 2024, 06:14:45 PM
Post by: 2MANY on December 10, 2024, 06:34:26 PM
That's the only problems I have.
There are 2many.
Post by: Dark2Dark on December 10, 2024, 07:00:17 PM
I think the only two changes need to be 1: you log in with your info. Limits you to one device, helps alleviate the amount of traffic on the server and shows realistic numbers of people online attempting to buy etc. 2: limit the amount of tags one can buy to himself and one family member etc. this whole thing with guys buying 10-12 tags is insane. I was under the impression we were already limited to 4 overall but maybe that is not the case. Either way, going to a draw is going to be a death sentence to most camps. There will be 10x the amount of t of people applying since it won’t cost much to throw your name in the hat and there is no effort/commitment to the process. Is it rough currently, absolutely. Are there solutions that don’t require going to a draw, absolutely. Good luck to everyone this year.I am thinking the logging in beforehand thing must threaten to crash the system more easily than just using a cookie to hold your place in line. I could be wrong. Weyerhaeuser uses queit, also and you do log into that first. Probably less volume, though.
Post by: furbearer365 on December 10, 2024, 07:05:21 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 10, 2024, 07:44:31 PM
Post by: Shooter4 on December 10, 2024, 07:52:41 PM
One person buying 10 tags is more efficient than 10 people buying 1 tag. Sure maybe all ten don’t drivevto idaho - but maybe they do.you must be one of “these guys” lol
Post by: ACCUBOND on December 10, 2024, 07:58:23 PM
Post by: chester on December 10, 2024, 08:04:35 PM
What happened with Idaho House Bill 587 that was supposed to be voted on to approve a point system for non resident OTC tags?
It failed
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on December 10, 2024, 08:07:47 PM
Post by: pbg on December 10, 2024, 08:29:02 PM
Post by: actionshooter on December 10, 2024, 08:53:55 PM
Post by: Dirtnap on December 10, 2024, 09:08:51 PM
Post by: bear on December 10, 2024, 09:15:52 PM
Post by: DeerThug on December 10, 2024, 09:28:33 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 10, 2024, 09:34:08 PM
Pro tip for the future if this is the way they do it next year.. Get all of your buddies that are trying for Idaho tags. Instantly text who has the low number. He gets to get his his tag but then can buy for others.
Online doesn't allow that.
Kicks you back in the waiting room after your purchase.
Post by: Dark2Dark on December 10, 2024, 09:36:20 PM
Pro tip for the future if this is the way they do it next year.. Get all of your buddies that are trying for Idaho tags. Instantly text who has the low number. He gets to get his his tag but then can buy for others.Sounds like that may work on the phone? But definitely does not work online. I haven’t tried the call in.
Post by: fowl smacker on December 10, 2024, 09:37:23 PM
Post by: Dirtnap on December 10, 2024, 10:20:22 PM
Post by: Dark2Dark on December 10, 2024, 10:33:39 PM
Fowl smacker, who’s says there’s a draw in 26?There’s another bill proposing it right now. But… the last one failed. So we don’t know yet.
Post by: Pnwrider on December 10, 2024, 10:34:32 PM
Post by: huntnnw on December 10, 2024, 10:39:21 PM
What an S show. Started out 42k deep, couldn’t get the same unit as my buddies. Had to settle for the next unit over. Makes group hunts very difficult to commit to. Next year I’ll just use air miles to fly over and buy for the group in person.
from what I have been hearing this was it for the current system. Be a draw
Post by: addicted1 on December 10, 2024, 10:50:19 PM
Pro tip for the future if this is the way they do it next year.. Get all of your buddies that are trying for Idaho tags. Instantly text who has the low number. He gets to get his his tag but then can buy for others.
Yeah, that doesn’t work. Unless there is some secret to it, if you follow their directions it just places you in the que again.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 11, 2024, 12:05:47 AM
One person buying 10 tags is more efficient than 10 people buying 1 tag. Sure maybe all ten don’t drivevto idaho - but maybe they do.you must be one of “these guys” lol
Hah, no. There are better ways.
Post by: Dirtnap on December 11, 2024, 05:30:18 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 11, 2024, 07:08:29 AM
I think the only "fair " way to do it is to make everyone log in to their account online, one device, one purchase...
The in person purchase seems to be the most abused and most lucrative...I know guys that have become mules and buy for more than just their group...
It's also suspected, as witnessed by a friend, that clerk's first few purchases are for people not in line...I'm guessing a couple Benjamin's gets you that privilege... :dunno:
Our group gets tags we want every year but we aren't hunting the popular spots.
I get the frustration of not getting a tag though...
And it sounds like there was a number of glitches so not sure how far people will take their grievances...
My online number froze for 15-20 minutes and actually increased a couple times... 🤔
Post by: 2MANY on December 11, 2024, 07:30:27 AM
Screw that.
Earn it America!
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 11, 2024, 07:47:37 AM
Post by: WSU on December 11, 2024, 07:48:30 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 11, 2024, 07:49:31 AM
I get why people don't like it but personally I love it. Current system ensures that every year I'm gonna have an ID tag in my pocket. A draw.....not so much. I've never bought in person either. Always online.
Karl you get lucky again ?
Post by: Dark2Dark on December 11, 2024, 07:54:56 AM
Is there anywhere to see the order or times that tags sold out?Not that I know of. Last year I took some notes as they popped up (you can see that) but I don’t know what I did with them and didn’t bother this year.
Post by: Dark2Dark on December 11, 2024, 07:55:43 AM
We don’t know for sure if it will change yet but we know for sure it won’t be next year.What an S show. Started out 42k deep, couldn’t get the same unit as my buddies. Had to settle for the next unit over. Makes group hunts very difficult to commit to. Next year I’ll just use air miles to fly over and buy for the group in person.
from what I have been hearing this was it for the current system. Be a draw
Post by: mrfish11 on December 11, 2024, 08:15:03 AM
Post by: bustedoldman on December 11, 2024, 08:19:12 AM
Post by: millerwheeler on December 11, 2024, 08:20:27 AM
Where do I go to see the up to date list of tags remaining for sale? Last year I thought they posted a link. I can't find it this year. Just curious what's left.They aren’t any sold out by around noon yesterday I think even sooner
Post by: mrfish11 on December 11, 2024, 08:26:24 AM
log in and try to buy
I already have my deer and elk tag.
Post by: blackpowderhunter on December 11, 2024, 08:38:54 AM
add a non refundable 10 or 20 dollar application fee.... boom even more revenue.
as much as idaho residents HATE non resident hunters, like 60% or something of the departments revenue comes from non res sales.
when i first started hunting idaho i was buying my license and tag in like august without any issues :chuckle: :bash:
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 11, 2024, 08:49:14 AM
they'll go to a draw, why wouldnt they? it just means more money in their pocket.
add a non refundable 10 or 20 dollar application fee.... boom even more revenue.
as much as idaho residents HATE non resident hunters, like 60% or something of the departments revenue comes from non res sales.
when i first started hunting idaho i was buying my license and tag in like august without any issues :chuckle: :bash:
We would buy deer and elk tags in the summer and hunt the mid State back country late Sept. Then in Nov go North and buy a second deer tag and kill mountain whitetails...
Oh the good ole days .. :chuckle:
Post by: Chesapeake on December 11, 2024, 09:03:07 AM
they'll go to a draw, why wouldnt they? it just means more money in their pocket.
add a non refundable 10 or 20 dollar application fee.... boom even more revenue.
as much as idaho residents HATE non resident hunters, like 60% or something of the departments revenue comes from non res sales.
when i first started hunting idaho i was buying my license and tag in like august without any issues :chuckle: :bash:
We would buy deer and elk tags in the summer and hunt the mid State back country late Sept. Then in Nov go North and buy a second deer tag and kill mountain whitetails...
Oh the good ole days .. :chuckle:
That was maybe 2019 or so you could buy your tags at your leisure. LOL!
I got a deer tag. Not exactly what I wanted, but close.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 11, 2024, 09:45:48 AM
2016 was the last year they didn't sell out before late spring.they'll go to a draw, why wouldnt they? it just means more money in their pocket.
add a non refundable 10 or 20 dollar application fee.... boom even more revenue.
as much as idaho residents HATE non resident hunters, like 60% or something of the departments revenue comes from non res sales.
when i first started hunting idaho i was buying my license and tag in like august without any issues :chuckle: :bash:
We would buy deer and elk tags in the summer and hunt the mid State back country late Sept. Then in Nov go North and buy a second deer tag and kill mountain whitetails...
Oh the good ole days .. :chuckle:
That was maybe 2019 or so you could buy your tags at your leisure. LOL!
I got a deer tag. Not exactly what I wanted, but close.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 11, 2024, 09:48:55 AM
oh yeah. Obviously not my first choice but I know where I'll be Oct 10 :IBCOOL:I get why people don't like it but personally I love it. Current system ensures that every year I'm gonna have an ID tag in my pocket. A draw.....not so much. I've never bought in person either. Always online.
Karl you get lucky again ?
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 11, 2024, 10:43:30 AM
Post by: Antlershed on December 11, 2024, 12:34:50 PM
Post by: Limhangerslayer on December 11, 2024, 12:37:07 PM
i miss the old days of picking them up on your way down to hunt!2016 was the last year they didn't sell out before late spring.they'll go to a draw, why wouldnt they? it just means more money in their pocket.
add a non refundable 10 or 20 dollar application fee.... boom even more revenue.
as much as idaho residents HATE non resident hunters, like 60% or something of the departments revenue comes from non res sales.
when i first started hunting idaho i was buying my license and tag in like august without any issues :chuckle: :bash:
We would buy deer and elk tags in the summer and hunt the mid State back country late Sept. Then in Nov go North and buy a second deer tag and kill mountain whitetails...
Oh the good ole days .. :chuckle:
That was maybe 2019 or so you could buy your tags at your leisure. LOL!
I got a deer tag. Not exactly what I wanted, but close.
Post by: Limhangerslayer on December 11, 2024, 12:38:57 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on December 11, 2024, 12:53:02 PM
Amazing! Congrats. We all 3 got our Elk tag in Zone we wanted but have to go across the road for our deer tag - was hoping to find the monster we saw this year.
If you tell me where I'll go check on him for you :tup:
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 11, 2024, 01:00:38 PM
Here he is - 4 miles off highway just past notellum creek turnoff. :-)Amazing! Congrats. We all 3 got our Elk tag in Zone we wanted but have to go across the road for our deer tag - was hoping to find the monster we saw this year.
If you tell me where I'll go check on him for you :tup:
Post by: Chesapeake on December 11, 2024, 01:29:27 PM
Here he is - 4 miles off highway just past notellum creek turnoff. :-)Amazing! Congrats. We all 3 got our Elk tag in Zone we wanted but have to go across the road for our deer tag - was hoping to find the monster we saw this year.
If you tell me where I'll go check on him for you :tup:
North or south of HW93?
Post by: idahohuntr on December 11, 2024, 01:59:21 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 11, 2024, 02:05:10 PM
A little more fairness in the allocation of tags would be nice. One login, all sales done via a single method (no in-person v. online), only purchase for yourself or immediate family (e.g., spouse and kids)...also, would like to see the outfitter welfare end. Ridiculous to carve out over 45% of the NR quota just for outfitters in some of these units. :bash:and then have those same outfitters standing in line to buy out of "our" tag pool for customers :bash:
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 11, 2024, 02:32:10 PM
A little more fairness in the allocation of tags would be nice. One login, all sales done via a single method (no in-person v. online), only purchase for yourself or immediate family (e.g., spouse and kids)...also, would like to see the outfitter welfare end. Ridiculous to carve out over 45% of the NR quota just for outfitters in some of these units. :bash:
:yeah: the outfitters and the residents making a business out of being a buyers agent along side the vendors, those are the two major issues I see. A work acquaintance got his tags through a local charging 100 bucks a pop for him and about a dozen other guys. Not sure if he's a vendor or had a vendor accomplice but I'd assume so
Post by: CarbonHunter on December 11, 2024, 02:34:04 PM
The outfitter tags are just a set aside and the outfitters are not getting those tags processed before are able to buy our tags so it has no impact except for the number available to us. Which then are sold in August if they do not get sold.
The way stores choose to sell the tags is up to them. They could make it 1 tag per person if they want or they can process all of their friends tags before they serve the person at the counter. It’s all up to the business owner.
Post by: highside74 on December 11, 2024, 02:34:23 PM
A little more fairness in the allocation of tags would be nice. One login, all sales done via a single method (no in-person v. online), only purchase for yourself or immediate family (e.g., spouse and kids)...also, would like to see the outfitter welfare end. Ridiculous to carve out over 45% of the NR quota just for outfitters in some of these units. :bash:
:yeah:
Post by: idahohuntr on December 11, 2024, 03:15:34 PM
Yea, that's certainly one way to increase the value of their welfare, err, I mean the quota they are allocated. Wish outfitters would embrace free markets a little more and socialism a little less.A little more fairness in the allocation of tags would be nice. One login, all sales done via a single method (no in-person v. online), only purchase for yourself or immediate family (e.g., spouse and kids)...also, would like to see the outfitter welfare end. Ridiculous to carve out over 45% of the NR quota just for outfitters in some of these units. :bash:and then have those same outfitters standing in line to buy out of "our" tag pool for customers :bash:
Post by: Ryan P on December 11, 2024, 03:32:00 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 11, 2024, 03:50:24 PM
Why not just make it where if you had a tag last year you have the opportunity to buy that tag again before the general public? Similar to what timber companies do. I understand there is no perfect system but when you have a group of guys who have a tradition of hunting the same area every year with friends n family I think they should have the opportunity to do that vrs someone who got a bad spot in line and someone else grabbed that tag because their #1, 2 or 3rd choice was already taken...
You couldn't go back a year, you'd have to go back a few year's cause some first time guys snuck in under the radar since this madness started...:chuckle:
My "preference" order would be......
Non resident property owners 8)
Long time Idaho Hunter's 8)
High success rate 8)
Neighboring State resident's 8)
State residents of neighboring States :chuckle:
Then everyone else...
Post by: elkslayer069 on December 11, 2024, 03:53:34 PM
Post by: highside74 on December 11, 2024, 03:53:38 PM
Why not just make it where if you had a tag last year you have the opportunity to buy that tag again before the general public? Similar to what timber companies do. I understand there is no perfect system but when you have a group of guys who have a tradition of hunting the same area every year with friends n family I think they should have the opportunity to do that vrs someone who got a bad spot in line and someone else grabbed that tag because their #1, 2 or 3rd choice was already taken...
I had my preferred tag last year. Didn't get either of my top 3 this year so I didn't buy any that were available. That idea won't work.
Post by: highside74 on December 11, 2024, 03:59:36 PM
Post by: 2MANY on December 11, 2024, 04:07:40 PM
My eyes are getting a little moist.
Post by: CarbonHunter on December 11, 2024, 05:45:51 PM
Post by: eliandsky on December 11, 2024, 05:53:10 PM
I get why people don't like it but personally I love it. Current system ensures that every year I'm gonna have an ID tag in my pocket. A draw.....not so much. I've never bought in person either. Always online.I love the system too. Feel like the effort involved is a good thing either at home or in line for a long time
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Post by: big wood on December 11, 2024, 05:58:20 PM
Post by: highcountry_hunter on December 11, 2024, 06:20:28 PM
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Post by: dilleytech on December 11, 2024, 06:34:08 PM
I get why people don't like it but personally I love it. Current system ensures that every year I'm gonna have an ID tag in my pocket. A draw.....not so much. I've never bought in person either. Always online.I love the system too. Feel like the effort involved is a good thing either at home or in line for 18 hours
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In line for 18 hours 😂. You guys can have it. I’m waiting for them to
Go to a draw system.
Post by: Chesapeake on December 11, 2024, 06:49:07 PM
I was #4 in line, when the gal punched my elk tag it was sold out at 9:07. Can't believe it was sold out that fast. Been hunting that unit for 25 years. To much multi media and guys with their you tube channel telling all the new guys how and where to go.
Not that I dont think you tube and influencers trash units, but the Idaho system and most states systems highlight the most desirable units. We all know in what order they sell out. Many folks purchase the most desirable units they’re given the chance to purchase.
Your unit is desirable to people that have never seen it cause other folks like you buy the tags.
Post by: Taco280AI on December 11, 2024, 07:04:30 PM
I was #4 in line, when the gal punched my elk tag it was sold out at 9:07. Can't believe it was sold out that fast. Been hunting that unit for 25 years. To much multi media and guys with their you tube channel telling all the new guys how and where to go.
Pioneer B was sold out in 2 minutes, with Big Desert B gone 3 minutes later.
Post by: The scout on December 11, 2024, 07:28:17 PM
I was #4 in line, when the gal punched my elk tag it was sold out at 9:07. Can't believe it was sold out that fast. Been hunting that unit for 25 years. To much multi media and guys with their you tube channel telling all the new guys how and where to go.
Pioneer B was sold out in 2 minutes, with Big Desert B gone 3 minutes later.
There is only 2 tags for each unit
Post by: muleyslayer on December 11, 2024, 07:37:47 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on December 11, 2024, 07:38:33 PM
Post by: fowl smacker on December 11, 2024, 07:48:39 PM
Fowl smacker, who’s says there’s a draw in 26?The game warden we talked to over there this yr told me that.
Post by: big wood on December 11, 2024, 09:04:35 PM
just saying I used to buy that tag in July now every guy across america watching go hunt is in the gameI was #4 in line, when the gal punched my elk tag it was sold out at 9:07. Can't believe it was sold out that fast. Been hunting that unit for 25 years. To much multi media and guys with their you tube channel telling all the new guys how and where to go.
Not that I dont think you tube and influencers trash units, but the Idaho system and most states systems highlight the most desirable units. We all know in what order they sell out. Many folks purchase the most desirable units they’re given the chance to purchase.
Your unit is desirable to people that have never seen it cause other folks like you buy the tags.
Post by: ganghis on December 11, 2024, 09:05:30 PM
Post by: blackpowderhunter on December 12, 2024, 06:44:16 AM
The way stores choose to sell the tags is up to them. They could make it 1 tag per person if they want or they can process all of their friends tags before they serve the person at the counter. It’s all up to the business owner.exactly.
even if the state put a "rule" in place they can do whatever they want.
hell i bought mine over the phone last year at a gas station in a town smaller than most highschools in this state because she knows me and ive been hunting there for 10 years. ya'll can hate on me for going that route if you want.
it's all gonna change.
people don't believe it but it will push some people to other OTC non res states, like WA.
The guy who brought me along to start hunting Idaho with his family is originally from there said if they go draw, he'll likely just start hunting wa with us. 500 bucks for a non res elk tag in wa seems cheap now :chuckle:
Post by: Humptulips on December 12, 2024, 09:31:44 AM
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Post by: High Climber on December 12, 2024, 09:45:20 AM
Of all the changes in tag allotments/sales rules in the Western states the absolute least thing I am worried about is increased non-resident pressure in WA…I think It’s a matter of time before you start seeing more license plates at your favorite trailheads and road systems. Especially with guys starting threads on other forums about hunting in WA and showing off their bounty and talking about how good the hunting is. WA has a terrible reputation with the out of state crowd, but Once the hoards figure out they can hunt every year in the same place OTC and have a shot at some really good tags in the draw they will start filtering in… all it’s gonna take is some “influencers” to start saying it’s worth it.
Post by: frazierw on December 12, 2024, 10:17:52 AM
Post by: hunter_sean08 on December 12, 2024, 11:05:42 AM
just saying I used to buy that tag in July now every guy across america watching go hunt is in the gameI was #4 in line, when the gal punched my elk tag it was sold out at 9:07. Can't believe it was sold out that fast. Been hunting that unit for 25 years. To much multi media and guys with their you tube channel telling all the new guys how and where to go.
Not that I dont think you tube and influencers trash units, but the Idaho system and most states systems highlight the most desirable units. We all know in what order they sell out. Many folks purchase the most desirable units they’re given the chance to purchase.
Your unit is desirable to people that have never seen it cause other folks like you buy the tags.
When I stopped by the IDFG booth at the Sportsman's Show in Portland 4 or 5 years ago or so, the guys working the booth warned us about what had already happened and what was to come with non-resident hunting. They singled out GoHunt as a primary reason why. Around the same time, I had spoken with Jerrod Lyle over at Huntin' Fool on the phone and he more or less told me that living in WA, my hunting party was silly to not be hunting in Idaho with their OTC opportunities. Really nice guy, but man I can't imagine how many other folks he gave that same advice too. These research tools bring a lot of power to our hands, but with that power, we unearthed a mess of unintended consequences. You could make the same argument for OnX providing us with the ability to e-scout areas a thousand miles away. I'm not necessarily bashing these resources (I have subscriptions to OnX and GoHunt), they've just made it a lot simpler to hunt the West. The irony is they've added some difficulty into the game too. Life without smartphones is a distant memory... :chuckle:
Post by: CarbonHunter on December 12, 2024, 12:52:10 PM
With the deer tags the numbers are based upon 10% of the number of residents who claim they hunt there. Therefore units that see the most hunting pressure actually have more nonresident deer tags than units that have fewer residents hunting them. Completely conflicting with the plan of making nonresidents pick a unit so they do not overcrowd the units the residents hunt in.
Before we had to pick units for deer you would see a lot of nonresident hunters in the backcountry where there was a lot of public land. Now those units have fewer tags on average than the units close to populations with lots of private land.
The true rush on the tags began when you had to pick a deer unit. Before then it was getting popular but it was not a first day debacle.
Post by: Dark2Dark on December 12, 2024, 11:47:23 PM
Post by: High Climber on December 13, 2024, 09:37:47 AM
Lol. People will not be flooding to Washington to hunt. Weather is awful for many of the season. Success rates are terrible. Animals are small. Tags and applications are expensive.Washington is expensive if you only intend to enter the draw. If a NR plans on hunting the OTC tag they have to buy anyways, it’s actually cheap. It costs ~$850 for a NR to hunt Idaho Elk and ~$650 in WA buys you an Elk tag for any open unit and a chance in the draw for some world class tags. Plenty of elk on public land on both sides of the State if a guy puts in the time to learn the areas and is willing to get after it. The harder these other states make it to get tags and the more expensive they get, the better WA starts to look if a guy wants to hunt elk every year. I camped next to a bunch of guys from Oregon in colockum this year that were there to chase spikes for the 3rd year in a row. The narrative that WA sucks and is not worth the $ is pretty overstated in my opinion, but it’s definitely a good narrative for residents. That being said, I hope you are right :tup:
Post by: Alan K on December 13, 2024, 09:47:44 AM
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Post by: highside74 on December 13, 2024, 10:06:28 AM
It blows my mind guys drive over from the west side to hunt spikes not to mention Oregon. That’s crazy. I hate that it’s true spike only and wouldn’t put the effort out if it wasn’t in my backyard. Odds of finding a true spike are so much lower than finding a three point or better. I would be hunting the west side if I was a out of state hunter
Most guys from the west side wouldn't if they could put in for east tags and buy a west otc. It's the price to pay for applying for east side draw permits.
And shhhh let them keep doing it😁
Post by: CarbonHunter on December 13, 2024, 12:36:22 PM
Across the country there is a lot of hunters who dream of hunting elk someday and Washington may soon be their only option and even that window could be closing soon.