Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 20, 2024, 08:28:40 AM
https://www.myclallamcounty.com/2024/12/20/two-cougars-on-olympic-peninsula-die-from-bird-flu/
Post by: boneaddict on December 20, 2024, 08:33:16 AM
Post by: Bareback on December 20, 2024, 08:47:40 AM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on December 20, 2024, 08:53:45 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 20, 2024, 08:53:53 AM
Post by: duckmen1 on December 20, 2024, 08:58:24 AM
Or another reason (excuse) for the Commission to further reduce take or even close season all together under their any mortality rule...
Bingo the end of hunting agenda is just beginning. Although it has been in the works for years. They are trying to grasp any angle they can to outlaw hunting. Openly and quietly on different angles.
Post by: greenhead_killer on December 20, 2024, 10:33:11 AM
If you die in a car accident but have covid at the time, did you die from Covid or the car accident? Are the cats starving because there are no prey animals left due to their lousy predator management and in their weakened state caught the flu, or did having the flu cause them to starve to death. I wonder which makes a more exciting headlinethis is probably the most realistic scenario, but they’d never admit that.
Post by: Humptulips on December 20, 2024, 10:46:12 AM
If you die in a car accident but have covid at the time, did you die from Covid or the car accident? Are the cats starving because there are no prey animals left due to their lousy predator management and in their weakened state caught the flu, or did having the flu cause them to starve to death. I wonder which makes a more exciting headlineYes!
Post by: HUNTIN4SIX on December 20, 2024, 11:19:08 AM
Post by: Jake Dogfish on December 20, 2024, 11:42:55 AM
If you die in a car accident but have covid at the time, did you die from Covid or the car accident? Are the cats starving because there are no prey animals left due to their lousy predator management and in their weakened state caught the flu, or did having the flu cause them to starve to death. I wonder which makes a more exciting headline:yeah:
Post by: elkrack on December 20, 2024, 11:57:06 AM
Sweet! Now if Parvo would take out a couple hundred wolves we'd get some where
Amen!
Post by: hunter399 on December 20, 2024, 12:33:11 PM
Or another reason (excuse) for the Commission to further reduce take or even close season all together under their any mortality rule...:yeah:
Agree totally
Post by: Pegasus on December 20, 2024, 01:43:40 PM
If you die in a car accident but have covid at the time, did you die from Covid or the car accident? Are the cats starving because there are no prey animals left due to their lousy predator management and in their weakened state caught the flu, or did having the flu cause them to starve to death. I wonder which makes a more exciting headline
If you died in this state in a car accident and tested positive for covid with a test that was designed to give false positives after numerous searches, you were classified as a covid death. I suspect since bird flu is the new covid scare that any dead cougar that is tested with a questionable test would be classified as dying from bird flu.
Post by: Platensek-po on December 20, 2024, 03:08:36 PM
https://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/news/catastrophic-mortality-elephant-seals-argentina-identified-outbreak-avian-influenza
Post by: 7mmfan on December 20, 2024, 03:39:39 PM
I don’t know. There were massive die offs of sea lions and elephant seals in South America due to avian influenza and it’s now definitely panzootic. Seems to be pretty rough on humans when they get it too but rare. Might be a little early to be celebrating a disease that can jump species and be transported so easily.
https://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/news/catastrophic-mortality-elephant-seals-argentina-identified-outbreak-avian-influenza
Maybe this is the answer to our Sea Lion and Seal problem around here? The steelhead and salmon sure would appreciate it.
Post by: KNOPHISH on December 20, 2024, 04:26:01 PM
Post by: hunter399 on December 20, 2024, 04:31:23 PM
Fake news? Panthera working behind the scenes to get cat hunting stopped? I’ll bet in cahoots with Lorna.Yup yup.
These cats most likely got it from too much human interaction.
For Christ sake they have pet names for them.
Post by: Bareback on December 20, 2024, 04:55:28 PM
But don't be worried, if Dimslee doesn’t come throughout we now have Side Show Bob, hand job bob or what ever his name is keep us under control.
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 20, 2024, 07:49:24 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 20, 2024, 08:24:00 PM
Post by: Roslyn Rambler on December 20, 2024, 08:43:21 PM
Two cougars have been confirmed to have died from avian influenza. No telling how many in the mountains are dying.
https://www.myclallamcounty.com/2024/12/20/two-cougars-on-olympic-peninsula-die-from-bird-flu/
Quote from the article
"It’s unknown how many cougars live on the peninsula. They’re notoriously difficult to track and study. But as of this time last year, there were over 90 collared cougars on the Olympic Peninsula thanks to the Olympic Cougar Project, a collaboration between Panthera"
The "Olympic Peninsula" is 3600 square miles
Let's assume they have captured and collared every single lion living on that landscape.
The article says, "Over 90"
But let's just use 90
That's 1 cougar for every 40 square miles
Biologist's all agree that a female lion needs / uses 50 to 150 square miles to survive, a male lion, even more
I can just imagine a town hall meeting and some attendees do the quick math and ask the panel...
"So, what your saying is that the OVER 90 collared cougars living on the 3600 square miles of the peninsula equates to OVER 1 lion per 40 square miles"
Answer
"Ummm...well no, not really, you can't really look at it so simply. It's more complicated than that"
Post by: Katmai Guy on December 20, 2024, 08:51:15 PM
Post by: CarbonHunter on December 21, 2024, 07:44:14 AM
If we see a mass die off of the game birds this winter and spring it will put a heck of a damper on bird hunting next year and for the years to come.
Post by: bigmacc on December 21, 2024, 05:16:05 PM
Sweet! Now if Parvo would take out a couple hundred wolves we'd get some whereTwo thumbs up bone!
I’ll leave it there.
Post by: ASHQUACK on December 21, 2024, 07:30:58 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on December 21, 2024, 07:53:44 PM
Post by: Humptulips on December 21, 2024, 11:38:05 PM
Post by: boneaddict on December 22, 2024, 04:49:23 AM
Post by: Loup Loup on December 22, 2024, 09:52:07 AM
or salesmen coming to your door either.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on December 22, 2024, 10:32:46 AM
Humptulips: I’m guessing from the sounds of it you don’t get many trick or treaters,
or salesmen coming to your door either.
:lol4:
Post by: HighlandLofts on December 26, 2024, 10:56:21 AM
Post by: hunter399 on December 26, 2024, 12:21:53 PM
Can't hunt them anyway.
No skin in the game. It was already said In this topic.
Just another excuse to take cougar hunting away.