Post by: fishngamereaper on December 28, 2024, 07:12:48 AM
Conversation is fine but I want a one stop shop for guys to access the links and comment...
Also giving the ability once the legislative session starts you can track the bills....
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 28, 2024, 07:13:48 AM
https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=1132&Year=2025
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 28, 2024, 07:14:54 AM
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?billnumber=5098&year=2025
Post by: jstone on December 28, 2024, 09:28:18 AM
Not solving the problems
Post by: bigtex on January 02, 2025, 03:41:19 PM
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?billnumber=1152&year=2025
Post by: MADMAX on January 02, 2025, 03:50:32 PM
comments sent to my legislators
Post by: fishngamereaper on January 02, 2025, 04:09:40 PM
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?billnumber=5099&year=2025
Post by: fishngamereaper on January 07, 2025, 06:37:39 PM
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=1163&Year=2025
Liz Berry is dangerous... >:(
Post by: Dan-o on January 07, 2025, 07:01:41 PM
Permission slip to buy a gun. :bash: And mandatory training..
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=1163&Year=2025
Liz Berry is dangerous... >:(
If only there was something our state Constitution to protect us from people like this.
Something that specifically said that the government can't impair a citizen's right to bear arms......
Why do we elect legislators who blatantly ignore the Constitution they swear to uphold?
SECTION 24. RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.
Post by: Irish_hunter93 on January 07, 2025, 07:21:03 PM
Thanks for doing this
Post by: jstone on January 07, 2025, 08:07:35 PM
Post by: MADMAX on January 07, 2025, 08:29:03 PM
It takes less than 2 minutes to send comments
Don’t procrastinate folks
Post by: Dan-o on January 07, 2025, 08:54:17 PM
Comments sent
It takes less than 2 minutes to send comments
Don’t procrastinate folks
:yeah: :yeah:
Now is the time.
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Post by: KNOPHISH on January 08, 2025, 09:42:05 AM
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Post by: fishngamereaper on January 08, 2025, 09:47:34 AM
A couple are so extreme I don't see them going anywhere
A couple echo other States legislation that is getting dismantled in the appropriate court's right now
A couple are watered down versions of previous bills that failed so those are possibilities
Best to click to comment and email your reps for now..
And keep an eye on the bill status. In true fashion some of these will get air time after hours with the hope that us Serfs don't realize what's happening.
Post by: MADMAX on January 19, 2025, 12:18:35 PM
Ammo tax additional 11% plus current sales tax
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wa-lawmakers-propose-new-stricter-gun-bills-aimed-reduce-gun-violence/3IESPKC3BBH2PHK2MVJOOHBI5U/
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on January 22, 2025, 07:47:29 AM
Post by: MADMAX on January 26, 2025, 06:06:54 PM
I believe we should call this issue what it is unconstitutional and I would let the president know what our state is trying to do.
I sent my thoughts
It cannot hurt to write a tasteful email to President Donald Trump.
https://www.45office.com/info/share-your-thoughts
Post by: ghosthunter on January 26, 2025, 07:13:38 PM
I recommend any responsible gun owner make their voices heard now
I believe we should call this issue what it is unconstitutional and I would let the president know what our state is trying to do.
I sent my thoughts
It cannot hurt to write a tasteful email to President Donald Trump.
https://www.45office.com/info/share-your-thoughts
I have been emailing him for a week about this state,can’t hurt
Post by: MADMAX on January 26, 2025, 07:17:52 PM
Squeaky wheel
Post by: Scruffy on January 27, 2025, 02:20:14 AM
Post by: MADMAX on January 27, 2025, 06:30:54 AM
needs to be all here
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=1504&Year=2025&Initiative=false
Post by: timberfaller on January 27, 2025, 09:35:48 AM
IF you did, this is what YOU support and enjoy!!
Post by: MADMAX on January 27, 2025, 04:41:17 PM
Top gun control bills to watch in Washington's Legislature this year
Washington state already has some of the nation's strictest gun control laws. But some legislators want to make them even tougher, including by possibly requiring permits to buy firearms.
The big picture: Washington's firearm death rate has increased in recent years, rising from 9.8 deaths per 100,000 residents in 2015 to 12.4 per 100,000 in 2022, per CDC data.
More than 1,000 people were fatally shot in Washington in 2022, the latest year of CDC data available.
Zoom in: One proposal before the state Legislature would make people obtain a permit showing they've passed a background check and taken a certified firearm safety course before they can buy a gun.
Other bills proposed by Democrats would beef up licensing requirements for gun dealers, increase safe storage requirements for firearms, enact a new tax on gun and ammunition sales, and limit the amount of guns and ammo a single person can buy in a 30-day period.
A sixth measure would ban firearms in more government buildings and limit guns in public parks, adding to the state's growing list of gun-free zones.
What they're saying: At a press conference last week, state Senate Majority Leader Jamie Pedersen (D-Seattle) said two shootings last year outside Seattle's Garfield High School highlight the need for lawmakers to do more to combat gun violence.
"My family and every other family in Washington should have the right to send our kids to school and feel like they're going to be safe," said Pedersen, who said he has four sons attending Garfield.
The other side: Senate Minority Leader John Braun (R-Centralia) told reporters last week that the gun bills filed by Democrats are "going down the wrong path."
"They're trying to restrict rights on law-abiding citizens," Braun said.
Opponents of the gun licensing bill told lawmakers at a public hearing last week that it would infringe on citizens' constitutional right to bear arms.
Between the lines: Researchers with the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health found in 2015 and 2020 that permit-to-purchase laws helped reduce firearm homicides in Connecticut, which enacted its licensing system in 1995.
State of play: Similar permit-to-purchase bills have stalled before in Washington's Legislature.
House Majority Leader Joe Fitzgibbon (D-Seattle) said Democratic lawmakers over the past two years were more focused on passing other gun measures, including a ban on selling so-called assault weapons.
With that policy and others now law, the licensing proposal has become "the highest priority gun bill on the agenda this year," Fitzgibbon said.
The state Senate has a slightly larger Democratic majority and more progressive members than it did a year ago, which may also improve the bill's prospects, Pedersen told Axios.
What's next: The House Civil Rights and Judiciary Committee is expected to vote on several gun control measures, including the permit-to-purchase bill, sometime this week.
To reach the desk of Gov. Bob Ferguson, the bills would also need to pass the full House and Senate.
Post by: CarbonHunter on January 27, 2025, 07:10:34 PM
If they get the insurance/bond requirement passed only rich people would be able to have firearms…
As they sue Trump to stop his executive order clarifying the 14th amendment on behalf of the children of illegal immigrants (that have not been born and it is impossible for anyone to be harmed by an order that doesn’t take affect for 30 days) they propose these measures of legislation that target law abiding, tax paying citizens that have proven they are responsible gun owners by the years of ownership without issues…
Hopefully the Trump justice department takes action against states that are depriving their citizens of our constitutional rights.
Post by: Scruffy on January 28, 2025, 01:10:27 AM
Post by: MADMAX on January 28, 2025, 06:35:20 AM
This video gives a run down on all the current gun control bills and the latest status of them. You can skip to the 3.00 minute mark to start the video and skip the commercial.
thanks that was very informative :tup:
Post by: MADMAX on January 29, 2025, 05:13:30 PM
With not too many people paying attention to any gun bills
Sad
Post by: MADMAX on January 31, 2025, 02:19:29 PM
https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2025/01/31/plans-for-new-gun-regulations-progress-in-washington-legislature/
The NRA also welcomes you to join us in Olympia to oppose HB 1504 in the House Civil Rights and Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, February 5th, at 8am.
HB 1504 requires individuals to prove they are "financially responsible" by obtaining and maintaining liability insurance or a bond before purchasing or possessing a firearm. The legislation lays out the coverage amounts, requiring at least $25,000 in coverage per incident of “accidental discharge causing death, injury or property damage,” and gun ranges to carry $1 million of general liability insurance. Individuals can "self-insure" but must carry $25,000 in coverage for each firearm. Excluding ordinary citizens and limiting this basic constitutional right to only the wealthiest Washingtonians. Failure to comply with this mandate amounts to a Class 1 civil infraction and monetary fines.
The glaring gap of this legislation is the fact that criminals will not comply with the mandate, nor could their illegal acts ever be covered under any insurance policy.
Please continue to check www.NRAILA.org and your email inbox for NRA-ILA alerts on the latest action items. Rest assured that your NRA-ILA will continue to fight to promote and protect your right to keep and bear arms and hunting heritage.
If you would like to learn more about how you can get involved with NRA-ILA's pro-Second Amendment efforts in Washington, please contact me at DGoble@nrailafrontlines.com.
Yours in Freedom,
Dallas Goble
NRA Institute for Legislative Action
https://www.nrailafrontlines.com/
Post by: MADMAX on February 07, 2025, 04:14:37 PM
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20250207/nra-statement-on-president-trump-s-executive-order-protecting-second-amendment-rights
Post by: CarbonHunter on February 07, 2025, 04:42:10 PM
Post by: MADMAX on February 07, 2025, 04:50:59 PM
I wish he would sign an executive order telling the justice department to join in with the citizens on the lawsuits challenging state bans that target the 2nd amendment.
Send him an email
I did
Post by: CarbonHunter on February 07, 2025, 05:56:30 PM
“Hello, is there anything the federal government can do to help with the lawsuits being paid by citizens in Washington to fight unconstitutional gun restrictions that were passed by the democrats? There is a minority in Washington of law abiding gun owners who have a history of owning firearms for hunting and protecting their property that are being targeted by democrats as a scapegoat for the criminal’s behavior that they choose not to prosecute and punish. This has led to the republicans fleeing the state and has become a sanctuary for some of the most liberals to settle and target people who live in rural areas of the state by passing legislation that makes the behavior of conservatives illegal and at the same time they are legalizing drug use putting the citizens of the state at risk.
The legal fight to protect our constitutional gun rights along with the legal fight to maintain our ability to hunt and fish is tremendous. The second amendment is a necessity for freedom and if laws need to be passed to limit a constitutional right it should only happen at the federal level and should be equally enforced to all citizens of our nation. The state of Washington has also gone so far as to citizens of Washington cannot even buy certain firearms in other states that they would choose to keep at a property they own in another state. These laws passed in Washington are affecting businesses transactions that are taking place in other states which is another violation of the constitution that we need help fighting.
Please help us in Washington as we are out numbered and out financed by the liberal special interests that want for us gun owners and hunters to be abolished.
Thank you”
Post by: MADMAX on February 07, 2025, 06:08:18 PM
Sent the below message to the president. Hopefully it will get to someone who can help.
“Hello, is there anything the federal government can do to help with the lawsuits being paid by citizens in Washington to fight unconstitutional gun restrictions that were passed by the democrats? There is a minority in Washington of law abiding gun owners who have a history of owning firearms for hunting and protecting their property that are being targeted by democrats as a scapegoat for the criminal’s behavior that they choose not to prosecute and punish. This has led to the republicans fleeing the state and has become a sanctuary for some of the most liberals to settle and target people who live in rural areas of the state by passing legislation that makes the behavior of conservatives illegal and at the same time they are legalizing drug use putting the citizens of the state at risk.
The legal fight to protect our constitutional gun rights along with the legal fight to maintain our ability to hunt and fish is tremendous. The second amendment is a necessity for freedom and if laws need to be passed to limit a constitutional right it should only happen at the federal level and should be equally enforced to all citizens of our nation. The state of Washington has also gone so far as to citizens of Washington cannot even buy certain firearms in other states that they would choose to keep at a property they own in another state. These laws passed in Washington are affecting businesses transactions that are taking place in other states which is another violation of the constitution that we need help fighting.
Please help us in Washington as we are out numbered and out financed by the liberal special interests that want for us gun owners and hunters to be abolished.
Thank you”
Well written
Appreciate folks getting involved
Post by: MADMAX on February 07, 2025, 06:18:36 PM
Post by: callturner on February 07, 2025, 09:52:12 PM
I wish he would sign an executive order telling the justice department to join in with the citizens on the lawsuits challenging state bans that target the 2nd amendment.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-signs-executive-order-to-protect-second-amendment-rights/ar-AA1yCsT0?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=e2b24c4b6ee74c6da0a4eb41b6bb14b4&ei=135
Post by: CarbonHunter on February 08, 2025, 08:27:32 AM
I wish he would sign an executive order telling the justice department to join in with the citizens on the lawsuits challenging state bans that target the 2nd amendment.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-signs-executive-order-to-protect-second-amendment-rights/ar-AA1yCsT0?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=e2b24c4b6ee74c6da0a4eb41b6bb14b4&ei=135
I read this order as they will focus on actions by Biden and democrats at the federal level. My hope is that they will go a step further and challenge the states with their infringements upon our rights.
Post by: MADMAX on February 14, 2025, 06:06:44 AM
These include:
HB 1902/SB 6004 would have prohibited a dealer from transferring a firearm to a purchaser or transferee unless the person had a valid permit to purchase firearms.
HB 2054 would have prohibited firearms dealers from delivering more than one firearm to a purchaser or transferee within any 30-day period, subject to various exceptions.
SB 5963 would have required individuals who own a firearm to keep and maintain a residential dwelling insurance policy that covers losses or damages resulting from the accidental or unintentional discharge of the firearm.
Post by: MADMAX on February 24, 2025, 03:41:52 PM
Rep Walsh is committed to protecting your Second Amendment rights, and the rights specifically outlined in the Washington State Constitution for law-abiding citizens.
One bill that is moving forward is HB 1163, enhancing requirements relating to the purchase, transfer, and possession of firearms.
There is a public hearing in the House Committee on Appropriations, TODAY, February 24, and this bill is scheduled to be voted on later this week.
We encourage you to make your voice heard on this bill.
The link below has instructions to help you navigate the process.
Sign Up to Testify, Submit Written Statement, and State your position HERE.
You can also send a direct message to your legislator HERE.
Here is the contact information for the Chair, Vice Chair, and Ranking Members on this committee:
Chair:
Ormsby, Timm
Vice Chair:
Gregerson, Mia
Vice Chair:
Macri, Nicole
Ranking Minority Member:
Couture, Travis
Assistant Ranking Minority Member:
Connors, April
Assistant Ranking Minority Member:
Penner, Joshua
Assistant Ranking Minority Member:
Schmick, Joe
On the legislative public website, you can Follow all FIREARMS bills in the House and Senate.
We appreciate you contacting our office on this, and please feel free to share the links and information provided.
https://app.leg.wa.gov/bi/report/topicalindex/?biennium=2025-26&topic=FIREARMS
https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=1163&Year=2025&Initiative=false
Post by: MADMAX on March 08, 2025, 01:13:37 PM
Midnight voting :bash:
Good afternoon,
Thank you for reaching out to me about HB 1163, which would require a permit to purchase firearms. The bill had a vote tonight on the House floor, but the debate on the bill didn’t start until the middle of the night. It went overnight until the House adjourned for the night and reconvened this afternoon to continue debate. The House voted to pass this bill by a vote of 58-38. I voted against it because I believe it violates our constitutional rights.
I have serious concerns about requiring a permit to purchase firearms. Such regulatory burdens that enact strict requirements to obtain a permit create a significant barrier to access your fundamental rights endowed by the Constitution. In addition, I strongly oppose the taxes (in the form of fees to apply for a permit) that amount to a poll tax such as those that prevented citizens from accessing their fundamental right to vote until 1965. Other constitutional rights do not require a permit to access, such as the press, where journalists are not required to obtain a permit to report news to the public. I am alarmed by the ongoing attacks on our constitutional rights by this state, that show a disregard for your freedoms.
As a fierce defender of our US and Washington state constitutions, it is imperative that you have the right to defend yourself, your family, and any business you own, especially when the state handcuffs our police officers, aims to reduce penalties for violent criminals, and ranks dead last in police officers per capita compared to the rest of the country.
We know that HB 1163 will do nothing to prevent violent criminals who do not purchase guns through legal means from getting their hands on these weapons in any amount, since the black market does not require permits to obtain a firearm. Instead, it punishes law-abiding citizens and prevents them from being able to legally obtain a gun to protect themselves and their family. The bill restricts their ability to access their fundamental constitutional right to bear arms under the Second Amendment of our national constitution, which reads: “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed,” and Article 1 Section 24 of the Washington state constitution, which explicitly states, “The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired.” I took an oath to uphold our Constitutions, and I take that oath seriously. Our state is one of the most restrictive gun rights states in the country, and it keeps getting more difficult every year to gain access to your fundamental right to bear arms.
Please know that there are ways to reduce criminals from using guns to harm others without infringing on your constitutional rights. One way to accomplish this is through a bill that I cosponsored, House Bill 1085, which extends penalties for threatening violence at schools and extracurricular activities.
Bills like HB 1163 are a reminder that we must defend our fundamental rights – or else they become privileges that are subject to be taken away as soon as someone abuses those rights.
Post by: Lowedog on March 09, 2025, 09:50:44 AM
Post by: ghosthunter on March 09, 2025, 10:38:33 AM
Very frustrating! Sad to say but I've given up sending messages to my representatives. I've come to the conclusion that I have no representation in this state. I live on the east side of the state in a conservative area yet am completely controlled by a couple of counties. WA is totally captured by one side, and I don't think there is any way to turn it around.
I think it is important to remember that there are folks on both sides of state that don’t like whats going on. Voting red grew by 8% last cycle. I am hopeful the Trump election is a sign that people are starting to move more Red. At 74 moving isn’t an option for me.
As painful as it might be I have taken a stance not to vote for anything with a Democrats name on it. Schools, police, levy’s nothing. And when ever possible turning younger voters Red. Not that one is better than the other. But lesser of evils as far as 2A is concerned.
Post by: hughjorgan on March 09, 2025, 10:58:34 AM
Very frustrating! Sad to say but I've given up sending messages to my representatives. I've come to the conclusion that I have no representation in this state. I live on the east side of the state in a conservative area yet am completely controlled by a couple of counties. WA is totally captured by one side, and I don't think there is any way to turn it around.
There are far more red counties in this state than there are blue. These laws they are passing rely on county governance to ensure they are followed. The county commissioners in all the red counties need to stand up for their constituents and push back hard against the continued assault on our second amendment rights.
Post by: callturner on March 09, 2025, 05:18:39 PM
Post by: MADMAX on March 09, 2025, 08:42:07 PM
But that’s how it’s being treated
Can you imagine needing a permit to exercise your right to free speech ?
Post by: Lowedog on March 09, 2025, 10:39:55 PM
Post by: TriggerMike on March 09, 2025, 10:43:49 PM
Post by: MADMAX on March 10, 2025, 06:25:52 AM
I believe this bill will also require a firearm safety certification in order to get/keep your CPL.
yea I'm sure all those turds pulling smash and grabs and murders will surely comply
Post by: Cougartail on March 10, 2025, 01:19:25 PM
Nice job!
Post by: timberfaller on March 10, 2025, 01:28:38 PM
Oh ya, and use wrong data to pass Anti-2A bills to boot! And WE have to follow other states, NOT lead!!
The WSP figures on needing an extra 12.7 million for the background check and will go up to 20 million in a couple of years. Being a "state agency" you can figure this is one the LOW end, most likely double when its done!
Ya can't fix stupid!
Post by: MADMAX on March 10, 2025, 02:34:42 PM
The state is going bankrupt YET the D's only know one thing, pass bills that will cost millions/billions(they don't have)to implement!!!
Oh ya, and use wrong data to pass Anti-2A bills to boot! And WE have to follow other states, NOT lead!!
The WSP figures on needing an extra 12.7 million for the background check and will go up to 20 million in a couple of years. Being a "state agency" you can figure this is one the LOW end, most likely double when its done!
Ya can't fix stupid!
Hey we do lead, come on man :chuckle:
We have the first queer Latina congresswomen
Go figure
https://www.king5.com/article/news/politics/elections/emily-randall-washington-6th-congressional-district-historic-first/281-a7fb97a5-4da5-4da8-b76b-80f076d6df86
Post by: Cougartail on March 10, 2025, 02:57:43 PM
The state is going bankrupt YET the D's only know one thing, pass bills that will cost millions/billions(they don't have)to implement!!!
Oh ya, and use wrong data to pass Anti-2A bills to boot! And WE have to follow other states, NOT lead!!
The WSP figures on needing an extra 12.7 million for the background check and will go up to 20 million in a couple of years. Being a "state agency" you can figure this is one the LOW end, most likely double when its done!
Ya can't fix stupid!
Now you understand why the ammo/firearm tax they want.
These people are Nazis with a plan
Post by: bearhunter99 on March 10, 2025, 03:35:51 PM
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Post by: MADMAX on March 10, 2025, 06:54:00 PM
Bastages
Post by: CarbonHunter on March 12, 2025, 06:40:03 PM
Post by: Dan-o on March 12, 2025, 07:13:26 PM
Does one of these ills include a provision that makes it illegal to even POSSESS magazines over 10 round capacity?
I thought I heard it included a mandatory buy back?
I sure hope I misunderstood.
Post by: MADMAX on March 12, 2025, 07:22:12 PM
https://www.axios.com/local/seattle/2025/01/27/gun-permit-license-ammo-tax-washington-law-2025
Passing
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/senate-passes-bill-to-ban-weapons-in-more-public-places/
https://www.columbian.com/news/2025/mar/10/controversial-permit-to-purchase-gun-bill-clears-washington-house/
Post by: Cougartail on March 13, 2025, 09:25:34 AM
I remember the leftist dummies on this site 5 years ago saying they weren't coming for your guns.
Not hearing much from them now?
Post by: timberfaller on March 13, 2025, 10:10:46 AM
History repeating itself in Olympia. And people wonder why our country is on the bottom of the list of "educated" society's!!
Post by: Cougartail on March 13, 2025, 11:11:15 AM
Funny how the "left" in this country called Trump and his supporters, Nazi's. YET they can't see who is "acting" just like Nazi's, they themselves! Their main premise for gun control is "safety" SAME as what Hitler and his goons did!!
History repeating itself in Olympia. And people wonder why our country is on the bottom of the list of "educated" society's!!
They were so worried about our safety yet let millions of scumbags across our open border.
Post by: callturner on March 13, 2025, 05:29:57 PM
Post by: MADMAX on March 14, 2025, 06:01:17 PM
2A
Makes em crazy
But don’t violate their 1A
Post by: chukarchaser on March 15, 2025, 05:05:39 PM
Post by: MADMAX on March 15, 2025, 08:00:56 PM
Crickets
If it was a Trump directed action
They’d be on it like a hobo on a hotdog
Post by: MADMAX on March 26, 2025, 05:24:27 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nra-expert-why-bills-being-advanced-congress-crucial-law-abiding-gun-owners
Post by: MADMAX on March 27, 2025, 04:32:30 PM
https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2025/03/27/washington-ag-backs-gun-permit-bill-as-it-advances-in-state-senate/
Post by: fishngamereaper on March 27, 2025, 04:43:49 PM
It’ll only cost 13.7 million
https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2025/03/27/washington-ag-backs-gun-permit-bill-as-it-advances-in-state-senate/
I've been doing way more research than I should be considering we are hitting the eject button to Idaho...
But I haven't found a single gun related homicide in the last two years( that's as far as I've gone) that this legislation would of prevented...
And currently there are no training programs in place that meet the criteria...
What's funny is that considering my background.... I'll need to prove to the state I'm competent to handle firearms....
WA is a lost cause...
Post by: timberfaller on March 28, 2025, 09:28:30 AM
No, its, the Dem's in WA are a lost cause!! I bet you that ALL the D's that vote and think/act like Socialist, ALL have indoctrination Degree's. Most likely, UofW, WSU, Berkley, Gonzaga, Evergreen, etc etc etc.
Post by: Dan-o on March 28, 2025, 09:54:11 AM
This is going to get bad 👎
Post by: timberfaller on March 28, 2025, 10:51:15 AM
As there are corrupt Politicians, there are corrupt Lawyer's. These laws/bills do "blatantly violate" both our State and the Federal Constitution's. But, ignorance and agenda's rules the minds of those who refuse to enforce "The Rule of Law". And this "cancer" goes clear to the SCOTUS.
To many people allow "emotions" to rule their intellect, "its about saving a life, its about the children, guns are to dangerous for some people, we lead the world in gun violence, who needs a military looking weapon, guns scare me. It goes on and on.
A firearm, no matter what it looks like, is an "inanimate object", it can do no HARM or KILL anyone, ever. BUT in the "hands" of someone it can. That is the "object" that needs to be dealt with.
Will you ever get a D/liberal to understand that?? NO That's why I never vote or support them, no matter what. :hello:
Post by: Cougartail on March 28, 2025, 03:35:52 PM
You hit the nail on the head, Don-o!
As there are corrupt Politicians, there are corrupt Lawyer's. These laws/bills do "blatantly violate" both our State and the Federal Constitution's. But, ignorance and agenda's rules the minds of those who refuse to enforce "The Rule of Law". And this "cancer" goes clear to the SCOTUS.
To many people allow "emotions" to rule their intellect, "its about saving a life, its about the children, guns are to dangerous for some people, we lead the world in gun violence, who needs a military looking weapon, guns scare me. It goes on and on.
A firearm, no matter what it looks like, is an "inanimate object", it can do no HARM or KILL anyone, ever. BUT in the "hands" of someone it can. That is the "object" that needs to be dealt with.
Will you ever get a D/liberal to understand that?? NO That's why I never vote or support them, no matter what. :hello:
The same d-bags who are claiming public safety also are fighting to keep the scum of the earth professional criminals from being deported. It's all power and ideology not safety. Democrats are frauds or braindead. Take your pick.
Post by: timberfaller on March 28, 2025, 03:49:10 PM
Post by: MADMAX on March 28, 2025, 05:45:16 PM
Post by: timberfaller on March 29, 2025, 09:33:11 AM
Post by: pickardjw on April 15, 2025, 08:29:36 AM
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?BillNumber=1163&Year=2025&Initiative=false
Time to turn up the intensity on my job search in ID or MT...if anyone knows of a construction company looking for an assistant PM or senior project engineer I'm interested!
Post by: timberfaller on April 15, 2025, 08:41:10 AM
Post by: MADMAX on April 15, 2025, 09:52:53 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 15, 2025, 10:13:21 AM
So pass legislation without a path to implementation.. idiot's.
Talk about next level virtual signaling...WA is a lost cause.
Post by: timberfaller on April 15, 2025, 10:31:09 AM
Just as is going on in Colorado!! EVERY county sheriff is against the bill the Gov signed, but he is just as spineless as these women are!
Post by: CarbonHunter on April 15, 2025, 02:50:14 PM
Post by: timberfaller on April 16, 2025, 09:03:41 AM
AND, WSP figures it will take 40 employee's to handle the program, when it can be figured out!! Now, when government says they need "40", it will turn into "80"! Same goes for "costs" that too will double! But hey, YOU ALL have tons of money, Right??? The D's in Olympia think YOU DO!
Post by: bornhunter on April 16, 2025, 09:07:56 AM
Post by: pickardjw on April 16, 2025, 09:11:25 AM
Idahomove is looking better all the time!
I flipped my LinkedIn status over to "interested in new opportunities" or whatever yesterday and noted Idaho or Montana based jobs only. Already had 5 messages and 2 calls...
Post by: timberfaller on April 17, 2025, 08:23:49 AM
https://www.trapshooters.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.trapshooters.com/attachments/1744890932173-png.2017744/
Post by: bornhunter on April 17, 2025, 09:09:51 AM
Idahomove is looking better all the time!
I flipped my LinkedIn status over to "interested in new opportunities" or whatever yesterday and noted Idaho or Montana based jobs only. Already had 5 messages and 2 calls...
Originally I was interested in Idaho for hunting opportunities. Now I just want out of this crazy state!
Post by: timberfaller on April 24, 2025, 09:11:33 AM
https://washingtonstatestandard.com/briefs/permit-to-purchase-bill-for-gun-buyers-headed-to-wa-governors-desk/
Post by: baldopepper on April 24, 2025, 10:01:11 AM
Post by: Cougartail on April 24, 2025, 10:52:37 AM
You guys should all just move. Face it, they're not gonna vote them out in this state. R"s ran a pretty good candidate for gov this past election and he still got easily defeated. Talk all you want about voting them out, but it aint.gonna happen here. I grew up.in a state where people kept telling me "if you don't like it, move" so I did. Never regretted it.
Packing as I type..
Post by: Bob33 on April 29, 2025, 08:00:23 AM
The measure, sponsored by Rep. Liz Berry, D-Seattle, along with a host of other Democratic House lawmakers, would require gun buyers to apply for a five-year permit by submitting fingerprints through a local law enforcement agency in the jurisdiction where they live. It would require a certificate of completion of a certified firearm safety course in the previous five years, or proof that applicants are exempt from taking the course. Fees and completed applications must also be submitted in order to apply for the permit, which must be renewed every five years.
Certified firearm training programs must also include live-fire exercises and demonstration by applicants that they can safely handle firearms, as well as the firing of a minimum of 50 rounds. Training can be sponsored by federal, state, tribal, county or municipal law enforcement agencies; colleges or universities; nationally recognized organizations that offer firearms training; or a firearms training school with certified instructors.
Post by: GWP on April 29, 2025, 08:25:09 AM
The criminals in the State will start obeying the laws because of these new laws! Crime will go down! People will stop drinking and driving! People will stop driving distracted and will put their phones down! Everyone will become responsible! The extra taxes you will pay will put more money in your pockets!
I can't believe some on this site are SOOOOOO short sighted. Give the 'progressive thinkers' a chance. They only JUST got in charge of the State, and have never had a chance to really show what they can do.
The bummer is so many of the 'progressives' are fleeing the States they have progressively ruined (including this one) that they are infecting other States and are working hard, by voting in crap, to ruin them as well.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 29, 2025, 08:50:26 AM
Some additional details from a Seattle Times article today. I wasn't aware of the live-fire requirement.Going to hurt for the guys buying unbraked super magnums.
The measure, sponsored by Rep. Liz Berry, D-Seattle, along with a host of other Democratic House lawmakers, would require gun buyers to apply for a five-year permit by submitting fingerprints through a local law enforcement agency in the jurisdiction where they live. It would require a certificate of completion of a certified firearm safety course in the previous five years, or proof that applicants are exempt from taking the course. Fees and completed applications must also be submitted in order to apply for the permit, which must be renewed every five years.
Certified firearm training programs must also include live-fire exercises and demonstration by applicants that they can safely handle firearms, as well as the firing of a minimum of 50 rounds. Training can be sponsored by federal, state, tribal, county or municipal law enforcement agencies; colleges or universities; nationally recognized organizations that offer firearms training; or a firearms training school with certified instructors.
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 29, 2025, 09:12:43 AM
In the meantime better go buy all the ammo you need before July... friendly reminder.
Post by: timberfaller on April 29, 2025, 11:36:29 AM
https://www.westernjournal.com/scotus-betrays-time-sides-california-gun-owners/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=CTBreaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=conservative-tribune
Post by: MADMAX on April 29, 2025, 12:05:32 PM
Sounds like a big-time cluster coming -worse than now
Post by: pickardjw on April 29, 2025, 03:01:06 PM
Glad I got what guns I want
Sounds like a big-time cluster coming -worse than now
The guns you want so far.
I had no idea I'd want a SXS a few years ago. And I wish I'd bought at least 4 lowers instead of 2.
Post by: MADMAX on April 29, 2025, 03:21:06 PM
Glad I got what guns I want
Sounds like a big-time cluster coming -worse than now
The guns you want so far.
I had no idea I'd want a SXS a few years ago. And I wish I'd bought at least 4 lowers instead of 2.
I get it