Post by: BA Mongor on December 28, 2024, 07:22:44 AM
I'm looking to pull the trigger on the Waypoint 2020 or Seekins Precision Havak Element. I'll be topping it off with my S&B 3x12x42. I'm upgrading my coastal blacktail rifle.
Thanks...BA
Post by: JakeLand on December 28, 2024, 07:53:06 AM
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Post by: jrebel on December 28, 2024, 09:47:48 AM
Never shot either, but have handled both. Both feel good in the hands and are super light weight. If those were the only two options, I would lean seekins due to their reputation.
Not to muddy the waters.....butttttt....the weatherby 307 alpine CT would be in the same class and looks to be a stellar rifle. All reviews are pretty amazing so far.
Post by: mountainman on December 28, 2024, 10:03:22 AM
Fieldcraft by Barrett would be a nice one 2👍
Post by: JBar on December 28, 2024, 12:01:57 PM
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Post by: BA Mongor on December 28, 2024, 03:27:42 PM
I've handled both and liked how they both felt great in my hands. I haven't shot either, but both have had stellar reviews for accuracy. I also read about the firing pin issue and it didn't appear to be a broad issue, but still an issue. Most of my shots are 20yards to 100yards and I just need something that's light and weather resistant.
Both of my Cooper MTV-21's have a wood stock and carbon barrels, so it will be a nice change.
Thanks again....BA
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Post by: Taco280AI on December 28, 2024, 05:49:41 PM
Most of my shots are 20yards to 100yards and I just need something that's light and weather resistant.
If that's all you need why not a T3x SL or a Kimber?
Post by: Mulie87 on December 28, 2024, 11:00:55 PM
I don’t have experience with Seekins, but you won’t be disappointed with a Waypoint.
Post by: Wingin it on December 28, 2024, 11:29:56 PM
Post by: dreadi on December 29, 2024, 12:07:48 AM
Waypoint weighs more than a PH2
Waypoint can have an adjustable comb.
PH2 and Element have no option for an adjustable comb.
Waypoint uses metal mags of a common pattern
PH2 and Element use proprietary carbon fiber mags that cost $90.
Waypoint has smooth action.
My PH2 has a bit of drag when running the bolt forward.
Waypoint purchase before the end of the year will get you a rebate for a rimfire rifle, transfer fees on your dime.
I wanted less weight, so I got a PH2.
Multiple customers wanted the Waypoint, sold them Waypoints. They have no complaints.
Every manufacturer puts out bad product at some point. It's unavoidable.
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Post by: dreadi on December 29, 2024, 12:13:45 AM
Since caliber is not mentioned and the weight difference, plus shooting distance are factors, why not consider a 16" Redline?
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Post by: BA Mongor on December 29, 2024, 01:28:49 PM
I pulled the trigger on the 2020 Waypoint, Proof Research Barrel in 308. I handload a lot of 308 and it's been my go to caliber for decades.
I bought the 3rd party, carbon fiber flush magazine.
BA
Post by: Mulie87 on December 29, 2024, 01:48:24 PM
Post by: dreadi on December 29, 2024, 03:03:43 PM
Thanks again for everyone's comments.They don't come with Proof barrels. Are getting a Proof barrel fitted?
I pulled the trigger on the 2020 Waypoint, Proof Research Barrel in 308. I handload a lot of 308 and it's been my go to caliber for decades.
I bought the 3rd party, carbon fiber flush magazine.
BA
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Post by: Mulie87 on December 29, 2024, 03:46:57 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on December 29, 2024, 05:53:07 PM
:yeah: Dredi is right. They’re CF, but not Proof.:yeah: BSF Barrels makes them .
Post by: cody21 on December 30, 2024, 03:48:29 PM
I have also only heard great things about the springfields as well.
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