Post by: Scruffy on February 08, 2025, 10:55:24 AM
President Trump puts the states on notice not to infringe on the 2A. Ferguson will be changing his pants. This will be interesting
Post by: safehunter on February 08, 2025, 11:13:34 AM
Why are firearm manufacturers still paying excise tax on products that they can no longer sell in certain states?
I hope the feds now threaten to take away all Pittman-Robertson funding from states like ours that do not allow the selling of certain firearms which are Legal in most other states!
Post by: HighlandLofts on February 08, 2025, 11:31:21 AM
Post by: MADMAX on February 08, 2025, 11:43:09 AM
Post by: Fidelk on February 08, 2025, 03:06:47 PM
Post by: bigmacc on February 08, 2025, 03:15:46 PM
Good.Yep, we would never see a Democrat do this or even possibly a mainstream republican for that matter. Trump thinks outside the box, even after a couple assasination attempts the guy is still an advocate for the 2nd and for gun ownership.
Post by: CedarPants on February 08, 2025, 03:31:54 PM
An even better step would be an order halting anything being passed at the State level regarding 2A until it could at least pass a sniff test by SCOTUS (as opposed to Olympia just ramming things through and thinking it will be several years .... if at all ... before it's merit gets tested by SCOTUS). I know that's a slippery slope and would open up Pandora's box for other things, but sooner or later the powers that be in Olympia are going to have to .... one way or another ... answer to the citizens of this State regarding 2A.
Post by: Fidelk on February 08, 2025, 03:41:08 PM
Post by: CedarPants on February 08, 2025, 03:47:23 PM
I don't think that the FFs viewed the 2A as something to be fiddled with by the various states. Courts need to rule that all American citizens enjoy all Bill of Rights protections. No difference depending on what state lies surround you.
Agreed.
Post by: bearpaw on February 08, 2025, 08:01:36 PM
Post by: baldopepper on February 08, 2025, 09:19:14 PM
Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.
Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.
Not sure that a post suggesting the govonor needs to be killed (as anyone familiar with "yellowstone" knows what a trip to the train station means) is really a wise thing to allow on a hunting forum. Some authorities might not see any humor in it.
Post by: bearpaw on February 08, 2025, 09:41:20 PM
Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.
Not sure that a post suggesting the govonor needs to be killed (as anyone familiar with "yellowstone" knows what a trip to the train station means) is really a wise thing to allow on a hunting forum. Some authorities might not see any humor in it.
I took it as a tongue in cheek comment, I doubt it lacked any seriousness, and I have actually used that phrase jokingly a few times myself. I certainly can't see that its any worse than actions suggested by elected officials and media telling people to take out Trump!
Post by: ghosthunter on February 08, 2025, 09:45:36 PM
I'll have to do some digging later tonight to see what cases are currently under review at the Federal level out of Washington State (since it sounds like that is how this will shake out for the States, unless I interpreted it wrong). A good thing no matter what, was more just thinking out loud.
An even better step would be an order halting anything being passed at the State level regarding 2A until it could at least pass a sniff test by SCOTUS (as opposed to Olympia just ramming things through and thinking it will be several years .... if at all ... before it's merit gets tested by SCOTUS). I know that's a slippery slope and would open up Pandora's box for other things, but sooner or later the powers that be in Olympia are going to have to .... one way or another ... answer to the citizens of this State regarding 2A.
Exactly
Why should we have to wait years for the courts to throw out unconstitutional laws. Put a process in place to review constitutional infringements before they can be implemented.
And every law abiding citizen nation wide should have the same rights.
Post by: baldopepper on February 08, 2025, 09:58:14 PM
Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.
Not sure that a post suggesting the govonor needs to be killed (as anyone familiar with "yellowstone" knows what a trip to the train station means) is really a wise thing to allow on a hunting forum. Some authorities might not see any humor in it.
I took it as a tongue in cheek comment, I doubt it lacked any seriousness, and I have actually used that phrase jokingly a few times myself. I certainly can't see that its any worse than actions suggested by elected officials and media telling people to take out Trump!
Don't think these days lots of people (and LE) are taking these types of comments as tongue-in-cheek. Tense times right now, kinda like being on a plane and kidding about having a bomb. Son in law enforcement tells me everyone is on a very high alert and very concerned about political violence possibilities. Poor timing for jokes.
Post by: bearpaw on February 08, 2025, 10:17:38 PM
Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.
Not sure that a post suggesting the govonor needs to be killed (as anyone familiar with "yellowstone" knows what a trip to the train station means) is really a wise thing to allow on a hunting forum. Some authorities might not see any humor in it.
I took it as a tongue in cheek comment, I doubt it lacked any seriousness, and I have actually used that phrase jokingly a few times myself. I certainly can't see that its any worse than actions suggested by elected officials and media telling people to take out Trump!
Don't think these days lots of people (and LE) are taking these types of comments as tongue-in-cheek. Tense times right now, kinda like being on a plane and kidding about having a bomb. Son in law enforcement tells me everyone is on a very high alert and very concerned about political violence possibilities. Poor timing for jokes.
Maxine Waters: https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics/maxine-waters-gold-star-family-cnntv/index.html
In reply to your comments, I'm sure law enforcement is on high alert and they should be. But I don't think the comment about the "train station" was any more serious in regards to actual violence than Maxine Waters' comment!
Post by: bearpaw on February 08, 2025, 10:18:14 PM
I'll have to do some digging later tonight to see what cases are currently under review at the Federal level out of Washington State (since it sounds like that is how this will shake out for the States, unless I interpreted it wrong). A good thing no matter what, was more just thinking out loud.
An even better step would be an order halting anything being passed at the State level regarding 2A until it could at least pass a sniff test by SCOTUS (as opposed to Olympia just ramming things through and thinking it will be several years .... if at all ... before it's merit gets tested by SCOTUS). I know that's a slippery slope and would open up Pandora's box for other things, but sooner or later the powers that be in Olympia are going to have to .... one way or another ... answer to the citizens of this State regarding 2A.
Exactly
Why should we have to wait years for the courts to throw out unconstitutional laws. Put a process in place to review constitutional infringements before they can be implemented.
And every law abiding citizen nation wide should have the same rights.
:yeah:
Post by: 3nails on February 08, 2025, 10:32:07 PM
Tense times? Joke right? Might be the most gleeful we've had in a long time.Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.
Not sure that a post suggesting the govonor needs to be killed (as anyone familiar with "yellowstone" knows what a trip to the train station means) is really a wise thing to allow on a hunting forum. Some authorities might not see any humor in it.
I took it as a tongue in cheek comment, I doubt it lacked any seriousness, and I have actually used that phrase jokingly a few times myself. I certainly can't see that its any worse than actions suggested by elected officials and media telling people to take out Trump!
Don't think these days lots of people (and LE) are taking these types of comments as tongue-in-cheek. Tense times right now, kinda like being on a plane and kidding about having a bomb. Son in law enforcement tells me everyone is on a very high alert and very concerned about political violence possibilities. Poor timing for jokes.
Post by: lewy on February 08, 2025, 11:21:43 PM
Post by: MADMAX on February 09, 2025, 12:06:32 AM
Thank you President Trump
Dropping a Fergie ?
Ha
He’s an overrated ambulance chaser
Post by: Cougartail on February 09, 2025, 10:59:57 AM
That's how big of a donkey hole he is.
Post by: KNOPHISH on February 09, 2025, 11:10:56 AM
Post by: MADMAX on February 09, 2025, 11:32:45 AM
How do we determine if he’s dropping a Ferg or just a wee?Follow the science🤣
Post by: Cougartail on February 09, 2025, 11:40:38 AM
How do we determine if he’s dropping a Ferg or just a wee?Follow the science🤣
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :tup:
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 09, 2025, 11:46:03 AM
Post by: pickardjw on February 09, 2025, 12:48:44 PM
I'll have to do some digging later tonight to see what cases are currently under review at the Federal level out of Washington State (since it sounds like that is how this will shake out for the States, unless I interpreted it wrong). A good thing no matter what, was more just thinking out loud.
An even better step would be an order halting anything being passed at the State level regarding 2A until it could at least pass a sniff test by SCOTUS (as opposed to Olympia just ramming things through and thinking it will be several years .... if at all ... before it's merit gets tested by SCOTUS). I know that's a slippery slope and would open up Pandora's box for other things, but sooner or later the powers that be in Olympia are going to have to .... one way or another ... answer to the citizens of this State regarding 2A.
Exactly
Why should we have to wait years for the courts to throw out unconstitutional laws. Put a process in place to review constitutional infringements before they can be implemented.
And every law abiding citizen nation wide should have the same rights.
I believe that's what the House Civil Rights & Judiciary Committee and Senate Law & Justice Committee are supposed to be for.
Post by: Cougartail on February 09, 2025, 01:23:07 PM
The Second Amendment was to guard the citizens from the government but the fatal flaw is the government controls the meaning of the Second Amendment.
Post by: timberfaller on February 12, 2025, 08:26:23 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/jeff-charles/2025/02/11/biden-administration-used-taxpayer-funds-to-boost-anti-gunner-organizations-n2652051
Post by: WSU on February 12, 2025, 08:36:43 AM
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Post by: jrebel on February 12, 2025, 09:15:46 AM
Post by: nwmein199 on February 12, 2025, 09:43:13 AM
Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.
Not sure that a post suggesting the govonor needs to be killed (as anyone familiar with "yellowstone" knows what a trip to the train station means) is really a wise thing to allow on a hunting forum. Some authorities might not see any humor in it.
I took it as a tongue in cheek comment, I doubt it lacked any seriousness, and I have actually used that phrase jokingly a few times myself. I certainly can't see that its any worse than actions suggested by elected officials and media telling people to take out Trump!
I want to make sure that "one way trip to the train station" is not breaking the forum rule of advocating illegal activity. What I know that saying to mean from the show Yellowstone is that a "one way trip to the train station" means to kill someone.
Post by: Dan-o on February 12, 2025, 09:50:07 AM
Post by: bearpaw on February 12, 2025, 09:57:22 AM
Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.
Not sure that a post suggesting the govonor needs to be killed (as anyone familiar with "yellowstone" knows what a trip to the train station means) is really a wise thing to allow on a hunting forum. Some authorities might not see any humor in it.
I took it as a tongue in cheek comment, I doubt it lacked any seriousness, and I have actually used that phrase jokingly a few times myself. I certainly can't see that its any worse than actions suggested by elected officials and media telling people to take out Trump!
I want to make sure that "one way trip to the train station" is not breaking the forum rule of advocating illegal activity. What I know that saying to mean from the show Yellowstone is that a "one way trip to the train station" means to kill someone.
I don't see how anyone can seriously think the comment was anything but "tongue in cheek"? Have the Onion or Babylon Bee been stopped from printing satire?
Another consideration, the political board is a closed group, you can't read it unless you specifically subscribe to this board, so the general public does not see this board, that is by design.
Post by: pickardjw on February 12, 2025, 09:59:48 AM
I don’t see anything that will apply to what individual states are doing. Did I miss it?
Yeah, I'd agree that it's not super clear whether the order allows the AG to investigate individual State-made laws. The Fact Sheet sure makes it seem focused on federal only, Biden Admin era laws/rulings.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-is-protecting-americans-second-amendment-rights/
Post by: bearpaw on February 12, 2025, 10:11:59 AM
I don’t see anything that will apply to what individual states are doing. Did I miss it?
Yeah, I'd agree that it's not super clear whether the order allows the AG to investigate individual State-made laws. The Fact Sheet sure makes it seem focused on federal only, Biden Admin era laws/rulings.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-is-protecting-americans-second-amendment-rights/
I think this is a good start, the order is specifically for the federal government, in the first paragraph:
Quote
STOPPING FEDERAL INFRINGEMENT ON CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to end the federal government’s violation of Americans’ fundamental Second Amendment right to protect themselves, their families, and their freedoms.
Where it could make a big difference is when state's issues are appealed to higher federal courts. Let's see what AG Bondi does and what happens with the states now that we have this order by the president redirecting the federal government.
Post by: baldopepper on February 12, 2025, 10:48:44 AM
Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.
Not sure that a post suggesting the govonor needs to be killed (as anyone familiar with "yellowstone" knows what a trip to the train station means) is really a wise thing to allow on a hunting forum. Some authorities might not see any humor in it.
I took it as a tongue in cheek comment, I doubt it lacked any seriousness, and I have actually used that phrase jokingly a few times myself. I certainly can't see that its any worse than actions suggested by elected officials and media telling people to take out Trump!
I want to make sure that "one way trip to the train station" is not breaking the forum rule of advocating illegal activity. What I know that saying to mean from the show Yellowstone is that a "one way trip to the train station" means to kill someone.
I don't see how anyone can seriously think the comment was anything but "tongue in cheek"? Have the Onion or Babylon Bee been stopped from printing satire?
Another consideration, the political board is a closed group, you can't read it unless you specifically subscribe to this board, so the general public does not see this board, that is by design.
You are aware this isn't showing up only in the political/covid board?
Post by: Cougartail on February 12, 2025, 11:02:26 AM
Post by: baldopepper on February 12, 2025, 11:14:44 AM
Quote from: Cougartail link=topic=290693.msg3955385 96.6#msg3955385 date=1739386946
Someone needs a Snickers Bar.. :chuckle:
LOL- love one, remember when used to only cost 10cent. Not in my budget anymore :chuckle:⁶
Post by: bearpaw on February 13, 2025, 09:17:15 AM
Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.
Not sure that a post suggesting the govonor needs to be killed (as anyone familiar with "yellowstone" knows what a trip to the train station means) is really a wise thing to allow on a hunting forum. Some authorities might not see any humor in it.
I took it as a tongue in cheek comment, I doubt it lacked any seriousness, and I have actually used that phrase jokingly a few times myself. I certainly can't see that its any worse than actions suggested by elected officials and media telling people to take out Trump!
I want to make sure that "one way trip to the train station" is not breaking the forum rule of advocating illegal activity. What I know that saying to mean from the show Yellowstone is that a "one way trip to the train station" means to kill someone.
I don't see how anyone can seriously think the comment was anything but "tongue in cheek"? Have the Onion or Babylon Bee been stopped from printing satire?
Another consideration, the political board is a closed group, you can't read it unless you specifically subscribe to this board, so the general public does not see this board, that is by design.
You are aware this isn't showing up only in the political/covid board?
You are correct, this topic is in a different board that's visible, my mistake. But I still see the comment as tongue in cheek.
Post by: baldopepper on February 13, 2025, 09:50:56 AM
[quote authorrpaw link=topic=290693.msg3955614#msg3955614 date=1739467035]Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.
Not sure that a post suggesting the govonor needs to be killed (as anyone familiar with "yellowstone" knows what a trip to the train station means) is really a wise thing to allow on a hunting forum. Some authorities might not see any humor in it.
I took it as a tongue in cheek comment, I doubt it lacked any seriousness, and I have actually used that phrase jokingly a few times myself. I certainly can't see that its any worse than actions suggested by elected officials and media telling people to take out Trump!
I want to make sure that "one way trip to the train station" is not breaking the forum rule of advocating illegal activity. What I know that saying to mean from the show Yellowstone is that a "one way trip to the train station" means to kill someone.
I don't see how anyone can seriously think the comment was anything but "tongue in cheek"? Have the Onion or Babylon Bee been stopped from printing satire?
Another consideration, the political board is a closed group, you can't read it unless you specifically subscribe to this board, so the general public does not see this board, that is by design.
You are aware this isn't showing up only in the political/covid board?
You are correct, this topic is in a different board that's visible, my mistake. But I still see the comment as tongue in cheek.
Suspect it was meant to be tongue in cheek, but believe we need to be careful with any postings that suggest violence..Too many characters out there that might take it literally.
Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.Turdeson needs a one wsy trip to the train station.
Not sure that a post suggesting the govonor needs to be killed (as anyone familiar with "yellowstone" knows what a trip to the train station means) is really a wise thing to allow on a hunting forum. Some authorities might not see any humor in it.
I took it as a tongue in cheek comment, I doubt it lacked any seriousness, and I have actually used that phrase jokingly a few times myself. I certainly can't see that its any worse than actions suggested by elected officials and media telling people to take out Trump!
I want to make sure that "one way trip to the train station" is not breaking the forum rule of advocating illegal activity. What I know that saying to mean from the show Yellowstone is that a "one way trip to the train station" means to kill someone.
I don't see how anyone can seriously think the comment was anything but "tongue in cheek"? Have the Onion or Babylon Bee been stopped from printing satire?
Another consideration, the political board is a closed group, you can't read it unless you specifically subscribe to this board, so the general public does not see this board, that is by design.
You are aware this isn't showing up only in the political/covid board?
You are correct, this topic is in a different board that's visible, my mistake. But I still see the comment as tongue in cheek.
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