Post by: Ridgeratt on February 18, 2025, 10:09:17 AM
Feb 18, 2025, 5:10
A wolf roams. A new Washington bill has sparked intense debate among lawmakers, wildlife advocates and local law enforcement.(Photo: Lando Hass/picture alliance via Getty Images)
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BY MATT MARKOVICH
KIRO Newsradio Analyst
A new bill before the Washington State Legislature has sparked intense debate among lawmakers, wildlife advocates and local law enforcement.
Senate Bill 5482 seeks to end the use of dogs by local law enforcement to track problematic wildlife — such as bears, cougars and wolves — unless they receive explicit permission from the state.
While some see it as a critical step toward more responsible wildlife management, others argue it could undermine local authorities’ ability to address immediate safety concerns.
The bill, sponsored by State Senator Marko Liias (D-Mukilteo), aims to restrict local agencies from using dogs to hunt these apex predators. Currently, dogs are permitted to track and pursue these animals in certain situations, primarily when public safety or livestock protection is at risk.
However, the bill proposes that local law enforcement, including county sheriffs, be required to consult with the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) before initiating any hound hunts for predators like cougars or bears.
Public against hunting with hounds
During a public hearing on the bill, Senator Liias emphasized that public support for limiting hound hunting has existed for decades.
“Initiative 655, passed in 1996 with over 60% of the vote, clearly indicated that voters did not want hound hunting for predators,” Liias said. “Cougars don’t present a significant public safety threat, and killing too many can actually escalate the problem.”
Wildlife advocates are particularly concerned about counties like Klickitat, where hound hunting has been used excessively without proper oversight from WDFW. Sheriff Bob Songer told KIRO Newsradio’s John Curley in an interview that he routinely deploys a volunteer posse to hunt down problematic wildlife.
Rachel Heymon, a Klickitat County resident, testified that frequent hound hunts in her area have disrupted local ecosystems.
“There have been over 154 county hound hunts in five years, often involving armed posse hunters chasing wildlife that pose no threat,” Heymon said. “These hunts scare people, disrupt ecosystems, and endanger public safety. Expertise from trained wildlife personnel is needed.”
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Critics say bill hurts public safety
Critics of the bill argue that local law enforcement officers, particularly county sheriffs, have a better understanding of their communities and can respond faster to predator threats.
“Public safety is absolutely the sheriff’s number one duty,” Brad Manke, elected Stevens County Sheriff, said. “If we lose the ability to act quickly in these situations, it could lead to more dangerous encounters between humans and wildlife.”
Supporters of the bill, including environmental organizations like Friends of the White Salmon River, argue the current system allows too much unregulated and reckless action.
“Some county-initiated hunts aren’t constrained by any guidelines on the age, sex, or health of the animals,” Pat Arnold, the group’s executive director, said. “This is disruptive to cougar populations and can lead to unintended consequences, such as increasing conflict with humans.”
Supporters also argue that allowing untrained volunteers to hunt with hounds only increases risks.
“County officers don’t have the necessary training to make these decisions,” Arnold said. “We need to leave wildlife management to the professionals at WDFW.”
Another key argument in favor of the bill is that the science behind predator management shows that removing too many adult cougars can actually increase conflicts.
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Killing cougars disrupts healthy ecosystem
Josh Rosenau, Director of Policy and Advocacy for the Mountain Lion Foundation, explained, “Killing mature cougars destabilizes populations, leading to more inexperienced, conflict-prone animals. Cougars are vital to controlling chronic wasting disease in deer and maintaining a healthy ecosystem.”
The bill does not remove the ability of county agencies to respond to emergencies. Instead, it requires them to coordinate with the state to ensure wildlife management decisions are based on scientific research and expertise.
“We want to ensure that the state’s wildlife management goals are applied statewide, not just county by county,” Rosenau said.
Not everyone is convinced. Richard Eich, a longtime hound hunter in Ferry County, argued that taking away local control will only harm rural communities.
“I’ve worked with the DFW for years,” Eich said. “We need the ability to react quickly, and if you take away local control, it will only harm our communities. People will go back to handling these issues themselves, without calling authorities.”
Senate Bill 5482 had its first hearing on Monday. The committee must take a final vote on the bill by Friday; otherwise, it is most likely dead for this legislative session.
Post by: trophyhunt on February 18, 2025, 10:36:56 AM
Post by: Mtnwalker on February 18, 2025, 11:31:50 AM
Add it to the list, here's a link to the bill for comment
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5482&Initiative=false&Year=2025
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 18, 2025, 06:41:13 PM
Post by: JakeLand on February 18, 2025, 07:06:15 PM
This proposed bill is just plain stupid. Not having the ability to immediately dispatch a problem cougars, bears or wolves in a timely manner is ridiculous. Who padded the pocket book of this proposed law!!:yeah:
Post by: MADMAX on February 18, 2025, 07:18:13 PM
:tup:
Damm fools in Olympia
Comments sent
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on February 18, 2025, 07:48:33 PM
Ridiculous. It's never enough is it?
Add it to the list, here's a link to the bill for comment
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5482&Initiative=false&Year=2025
Done! :yeah:
Post by: Oldguy on February 18, 2025, 09:51:43 PM
Post by: EnglishSetter on February 18, 2025, 10:51:34 PM
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“County officers don’t have the necessary training to make these decisions,” Arnold said. “We need to leave wildlife management to the professionals at WDFW.”
All for "the science" until they aren't.
Curious WDFW's position. Supporters submit WDFW as the experts. But all I see are references to "studies/research" without actually listing any of these "studies/research". That typically smells like bovine excrement.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on February 18, 2025, 11:36:41 PM
Post by: timberfaller on February 19, 2025, 08:53:51 AM
Post by: KNOPHISH on February 19, 2025, 09:01:38 AM
Post by: Cougartail on February 19, 2025, 09:22:58 AM
Who else would dream this bs up?
Post by: boneaddict on February 19, 2025, 09:33:13 AM
Post by: Ridgeratt on February 19, 2025, 09:43:01 AM
Men with tampons and women who are strapped push this garbage as an "in your face" tactic against normal people.
Who else would dream this bs up?
Amazing that the Rhodes Scholars that come up with this stuff all have a "D" someplace in the title and hail from the land west of the Pacific Crest trail.
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on February 19, 2025, 09:50:37 AM
Men with tampons and women who are strapped push this garbage as an "in your face" tactic against normal people.
Who else would dream this bs up?
Amazing that the Rhodes Scholars that come up with this stuff all have a "D" someplace in the title and hail from the land west of the Pacific Crest trail.
:yeah:
Post by: Smokeploe on February 19, 2025, 11:25:08 AM
Smokeploe
Post by: JakeLand on February 19, 2025, 12:08:17 PM
Post by: GWP on February 19, 2025, 12:28:38 PM
I have commented about hound hunting (though I have never done it) and the stupidity of having the general public voting on something they know virtually nothing about, but it seems that the Western side of the State 'leadership', if you can call it that, is going the same direction.
Is it any wonder the State wants to split up? They could care less about any one but the small city area population that carries the votes to do what they want to do. It is soooooo sad how bad it has gotten in Washington. Living here for the vast majority of my life I will say it was not always like this!
Post by: duckmen1 on February 19, 2025, 12:53:35 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on February 19, 2025, 01:08:24 PM
Post by: L8NITE on February 19, 2025, 03:37:14 PM
“County officers don’t have the necessary training to make these decisions,” Arnold said. “We need to leave wildlife management to the professionals at WDFW.”
Well if this is so true than why aren't they leaving law enforcement decisions up to law enforcement that have the TRAINING and not these Monday morning quarterbacks who make bad decisions :bash: :bash:
Post by: Bucks2Ducks on February 19, 2025, 04:01:45 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on February 19, 2025, 04:32:05 PM
Post by: Moose Master on February 19, 2025, 08:46:38 PM
Post by: EnglishSetter on February 19, 2025, 09:51:39 PM
And in most cases law enforcement consults with fish and wildlife and there usually the ones to make the phone calls to the houndsman.
I was thinking "this isn't done in a vacuum". DFW isn't ignorant of the process.
It should be DFW's call. Legislature has no business in this unless DFW requests it.
Post by: Fidelk on February 20, 2025, 10:51:28 AM
Post by: avidnwoutdoorsman on February 20, 2025, 08:00:12 PM
It’s worth it.
Like we all need to be present at the commission meetings it’s time we are present at these committee meetings too.
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Post by: Humptulips on February 22, 2025, 10:39:00 AM
And in most cases law enforcement consults with fish and wildlife and there usually the ones to make the phone calls to the houndsman.
I was thinking "this isn't done in a vacuum". DFW isn't ignorant of the process.
It should be DFW's call. Legislature has no business in this unless DFW requests it.
I'm thinking this Bill is not exactly agency request legislation, but DFW wants this. It all stems from Klickitat County responding to constituent complaints when DFW either wouldn't or was slow in responding. The cougar people in DFW don't like being cut out of the loop. This is designed to show those local yokels who's boss.
Post by: lewy on February 22, 2025, 11:12:04 AM
Post by: Humptulips on February 22, 2025, 12:49:28 PM
How can we stop the morons!? Wtf is the point of this?Send a comment on this Bill
https://app.leg.wa.gov/BillSummary/?BillNumber=5482&Year=2025&Initiative=false
Go to the link, upper right of Bill at a glance window
Post by: bearpaw on February 22, 2025, 03:43:48 PM
comment sent, thanks for the link
Post by: lewy on February 22, 2025, 05:10:47 PM
Post by: MADMAX on February 22, 2025, 08:48:47 PM
Oh I did, I feel like all I do anymore is send comments on ridiculous bills!!!
I bet I’ve done 50
Or seems so 🤣
Post by: bearpaw on February 22, 2025, 09:08:51 PM
Post by: boneaddict on February 23, 2025, 04:49:29 AM