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Title: Grizzly recovery
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 11, 2025, 12:06:46 PM
Saw this on the news the other night. I just think it's another push from the environmental groups to keep the grizzly bears on the endangered species list. Some areas are already heavily populated.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rymriAgwtws
Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: Moose Master on August 22, 2025, 08:01:01 PM
KUOW - Plan to return grizzlies to the North Cascades appears to be in hibernation https://share.google/pceWJicbpWQc3tshr

Here's a tidbit
Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: MADMAX on August 22, 2025, 08:08:31 PM
That’s good news
Thank you for sharing it
Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: Dan-o on August 22, 2025, 11:24:59 PM
Indeed!     :tup:
Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: timberfaller on August 23, 2025, 10:55:21 AM
Nice to hear, but,

They'll be back!  They never quit.  Its all about control. 
Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: The Butcher on August 23, 2025, 04:13:24 PM
Too late or why else did I have to do the bear ID test to hunt in 437 this year.
Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: ghosthunter on August 23, 2025, 06:42:51 PM
Too late or why else did I have to do the bear ID test to hunt in 437 this year.

I have done Bear ID at least the past three years if not more. They started Bear ID before they made proposal I think.
Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: dwils233 on August 23, 2025, 07:19:25 PM
Too late or why else did I have to do the bear ID test to hunt in 437 this year.

I have done Bear ID at least the past three years if not more. They started Bear ID before they made proposal I think.
There have been grizzlies in NE WA for a long time. Maybe not many, but when folks freak out about potential "grizz in WA" they forget they're already on the ground (and why we have to take the ID test)
Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: ghosthunter on August 23, 2025, 07:22:50 PM
Yeah

I got no issue with a griz naturally migrating to WA.

I am against humans transporting them here.

Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on August 23, 2025, 07:59:08 PM
Yeah

I got no issue with a griz naturally migrating to WA.

I am against humans transporting them here.


  :yeah:  The grizz and the woff.
Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: Vine Maples and Cottonwoo on August 23, 2025, 09:43:17 PM
This is just my opinion; The grizzly population in the Montana/Wyoming and other areas is much larger than anyone is willing to admit to. Every effort is being made to avoid any type of hunting season or meaningful population control. I spoke with a Montana resident a couple of weeks ago, who said that grizzlies are now showing up in Eastern Montana. Anyway, in this large population of grizzlies, there are a percentage of problem bears. They don't want to allow hunting, and don't want to kill problem bears. They need a place to put them. Again, just my opinion; The North Cascades/Washington State Grizzly Recovery is about releasing these problem bears into Washington State. Washington State will become the dumping ground for Problem Grizzlies from Montana/Wyoming. The likely plan is to release these problem bears into remote areas where they have little likelihood of causing problems/endangering people. This will eventually prove to be a false hope. Someone will get hurt eventually. Anyone defending themselves from one of these bears will be made an example of. Like I said, JMHO.
Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: Threewolves on August 24, 2025, 06:46:45 AM
There is a reason our forefathers got rid of grizzly bears.

Montana and others are stupid for not hunting them. They are way outside their recovery zone. They need to be controlled through hunting just like other animals. It's not like grizzlies are going to stop reproducing.

You can hunt them in Alaska and Canada. BC is residents only.



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Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: ghosthunter on August 24, 2025, 07:56:49 AM
There is a reason our forefathers got rid of grizzly bears.

Montana and others are stupid for not hunting them. They are way outside their recovery zone. They need to be controlled through hunting just like other animals. It's not like grizzlies are going to stop reproducing.

You can hunt them in Alaska and Canada. BC is residents only.

Yep

It all comes down to antis back when they set a number of how many wolves, griz, are going to represent a come back the they argue for highest number. Than when the number is reached they fight because the don’t believe the number. So an endless battle goes on forever.

If grizzlies wanted to live in any numbers in the Cascades they would. They don’t need help from humans. The animal rights folks can’t stick to a policy. They say humans aren’t needed to keep game in check, but grizzlies and wolves do need humans to balance?

It’s simple they want to call all the shots and no one else matters.



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Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: nwwanderer on August 24, 2025, 09:31:57 AM
Ursus arctos has been in north America more than 100,000 years and as a circumpolar species has never been endangered.  Tell a politician, a thousand times!  Be careful out there
Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: The Butcher on August 24, 2025, 10:57:39 PM
Quote from: The Butcher on Yesterday at 04:13:24 PM
Too late or why else did I have to do the bear ID test to hunt in 437 this year.

I have done Bear ID at least the past three years if not more. They started Bear ID before they made proposal I think.


Unit 437 was not on that list in 2024.
Title: Re: Grizzly recovery
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on August 25, 2025, 05:57:26 AM
Quote from: The Butcher on Yesterday at 04:13:24 PM
Too late or why else did I have to do the bear ID test to hunt in 437 this year.

I have done Bear ID at least the past three years if not more. They started Bear ID before they made proposal I think.


Unit 437 was not on that list in 2024.

My guess is they have, or know that’s where they’re going to spill over into after planting them in North Cascades NP, or 418.

Anything that have planted, or will planted will be monitored by telemetry/satellite tracking.
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