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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: luvmystang67 on May 15, 2025, 10:44:15 AM

Title: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: luvmystang67 on May 15, 2025, 10:44:15 AM: As an interesting though exercise, I thought I'd look through number of total apps per tag for each of the EM quality elk tags, as a EM elk tag holder this year. There's a lot of variation and BS when it comes to average points, espeically for low volume tags, but I think its kind of interesting to see what the total hunter demand is. I'm aware these represent a couple of different selections as you have 2 options on your quality app, but its still interesting. I'm curious what people think of the quality of these muzzy hunts versus the interest (as judged by applications per tag). The results weren't really what I had expected. These are essentially all late Sept/Early Oct 1-2 week hunts. The Yakima herd hunts are generally 9/27-10/3 and the Blues hunts are generally 9/29-10/10.

240 Goose Prairie
214 Mission
183 Cowiche
149 Peaches
139 Colockum
135 Teanaway
118 Tucannon
110 Dayton
104 Lick Creek
85 Mountain View
81 Observatory
80 Bethel
77 Wenaha East
73 Wenaha West
60 Blue Creek
60 Rimrock
57 Couse
28 Prescott
15 Peola
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 15, 2025, 10:58:10 AM: Out of staters not welcome.
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: luvmystang67 on May 15, 2025, 11:12:25 AM: Quote from: D-Rock425 on May 15, 2025, 10:58:10 AM
Out of staters not welcome.

I can't wait to be a non-resident with a quality bull special permit. That'll draw some scowls.

I guess my point is, if a person had a choice of any quality bull hunt in the state for muzzy... this would indicate they'd hunt Goose Prairie or Mission over say Colockum. And Cowiche over Tucannon. That kind of surprises me.
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 15, 2025, 11:24:27 AM: The only bull worth coming to Washington got killed last December.
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 15, 2025, 11:31:58 AM: I think a lot of these apps are put in for areas simply because that's the area they hunt during general season and has little to do with quality of bulls in the unit.
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on May 15, 2025, 01:00:44 PM: These ratios really only work for the first tag being drawn.
Use the peaches hunt for example if you only lose 1 app per tag being awarded
599 apps / 4 tags = 149.75 apps per tag
598 apps / 3 tags = 199.3 apps per tag
597 apps / 2 tags = 298.5 apps per tag
596 apps / 1 tag = 596 apps per tag
Best odds is roughly .67% for that tag at 1 tag per 149 apps
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: goldenhtr on May 15, 2025, 03:35:01 PM: 240 Goose Prairie= 1-tag issued :bash:
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: ghosthunter on May 15, 2025, 04:25:33 PM: Quote from: D-Rock425 on May 15, 2025, 11:31:58 AM
I think a lot of these apps are put in for areas simply because that's the area they hunt during general season and has little to do with quality of bulls in the unit.

Exactly

We hunt a certain area, we know and only put in for that area. It’s not about quality or numbers. It’s all about an area we know.
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: RCbowsnbulls on July 27, 2025, 03:16:33 PM: I have the 1 Lick Creek muzzy tag. There are big bulls in there. It is just picking the correct part of the unit to look. Seeing some decent ones so far on my scouting trips. Good luck all.
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: trophyhunt on July 27, 2025, 05:24:07 PM: May not be exactly on subject, but here are some interesting numbers about draw odds w quality elk.

21 people had 30 points and 1 was drawn. 9 with 31 and 1 selected 1 with 32 no draw, and 6 with 33 and no draw. 8 with 34-37 points and no draw.
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: trophyhunt on July 27, 2025, 05:24:31 PM: 25810 customers submitted for quality elk, and that number doesn’t include the rest who put in for points
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: trophyhunt on July 27, 2025, 05:25:01 PM: 345 permits were distributed , Total apps purchased for QElk was 34,551
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: Kingofthemountain83 on July 27, 2025, 05:36:40 PM: I put in for the two units I know the best for elk... One unit isn't know for record bulls... But I did get a nice 6x7 when I had the tag...
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: High Climber on July 27, 2025, 09:21:16 PM: Quote from: trophyhunt on July 27, 2025, 05:24:07 PM
May not be exactly on subject, but here are some interesting numbers about draw odds w quality elk.

21 people had 30 points and 1 was drawn. 9 with 31 and 1 selected 1 with 32 no draw, and 6 with 33 and no draw. 8 with 34-37 points and no draw.
Interesting stuff, got a link?
Title: Re: Apps per Tag for Muzzy Elk
Post by: trophyhunt on July 28, 2025, 04:26:16 AM: Quote from: High Climber on July 27, 2025, 09:21:16 PM
Quote from: trophyhunt on July 27, 2025, 05:24:07 PM
May not be exactly on subject, but here are some interesting numbers about draw odds w quality elk.

21 people had 30 points and 1 was drawn. 9 with 31 and 1 selected 1 with 32 no draw, and 6 with 33 and no draw. 8 with 34-37 points and no draw.
Interesting stuff, got a link?
sorry, I’m not sure if there is a link, I’ll check. Got the info from an employee.