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Title: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: Wacenturion on June 28, 2009, 08:26:06 AM

For those of you that have used them, what is your preference and why?  Also....do you see a difference in regular Pyrodex vs. Pyrodex Select....and is the Select closer to Triple 7 in ballistics?

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: stumprat on June 28, 2009, 03:17:15 PM

I have used both. I prefer 777 loose. Seems to be cleaner than Pyrodex powder. :twocents:

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: Wacenturion on June 28, 2009, 03:35:11 PM

Thanks Adna....was starting to think I wasn't going to get a response.  Is it also correct you use 15% less by volume of Triple 7....i.e 100 grains of Black powder or Pyrodex...one would use 85 grains of Triple7 for an equivalent load?

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: stumprat on June 29, 2009, 03:25:22 PM

I shoot 310 grain Knight lead bullets. They seem to shoot best with 90 grains of 777 loose powder. I find that more than 90 grains of powder only seems to create more smoke, not better accuracy. Thats just my opinion though.
I also shoot with musket caps. No particular reason, just what I have always used.

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: ing on July 01, 2009, 06:56:51 AM

I shoot 295gr Powerbelts with two 50gr Pyrodex pellets and musket caps.  That is the most accurate load out of my 50cal Knight.

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: Intruder on July 01, 2009, 10:26:48 AM

Quote from: Wacenturion on June 28, 2009, 03:35:11 PM

Thanks Adna....was starting to think I wasn't going to get a response.  Is it also correct you use 15% less by volume of Triple 7....i.e 100 grains of Black powder or Pyrodex...one would use 85 grains of Triple7 for an equivalent load?

I "think, may be wrong" that this is only and issue if you changing the size of powder.  FG vs FFFG... they smaller size will actually be a bigger load by iin the same volume.  Is that what you're thinking of maybe???  :dunno:

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: stumprat on July 01, 2009, 05:06:52 PM

Quote from: Intruder on July 01, 2009, 10:26:48 AM

Quote from: Wacenturion on June 28, 2009, 03:35:11 PM

Thanks Adna....was starting to think I wasn't going to get a response.  Is it also correct you use 15% less by volume of Triple 7....i.e 100 grains of Black powder or Pyrodex...one would use 85 grains of Triple7 for an equivalent load?

I "think, may be wrong" that this is only and issue if you changing the size of powder.  FG vs FFFG... they smaller size will actually be a bigger load by iin the same volume.  Is that what you're thinking of maybe???  :dunno:

Good point. I shoot 90 grains of ffg. Pressure differences are when using fffg.
Hope this helps.

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: Wacenturion on July 01, 2009, 11:10:36 PM

Quote from: Intruder on July 01, 2009, 10:26:48 AM

Quote from: Wacenturion on June 28, 2009, 03:35:11 PM

Thanks Adna....was starting to think I wasn't going to get a response.  Is it also correct you use 15% less by volume of Triple 7....i.e 100 grains of Black powder or Pyrodex...one would use 85 grains of Triple7 for an equivalent load?

I "think, may be wrong" that this is only and issue if you changing the size of powder.  FG vs FFFG... they smaller size will actually be a bigger load by iin the same volume.  Is that what you're thinking of maybe???  :dunno:

No.....Definitely referring to FFG, not FFFG in regards to a comparable amount by volume to Pyrodex or black powder.  Good point to bring up though.

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: PA BEN on July 06, 2009, 06:31:37 PM

Quote from: adnahoundsman on June 28, 2009, 03:17:15 PM

I have used both. I prefer 777 loose. Seems to be cleaner than Pyrodex powder. :twocents:

:yeah:

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: 3dsheetmetal on July 06, 2009, 06:38:31 PM

I use 777 loose lot cleaner and slightly more accurate than the pellets. :twocents:

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: SHANE(WA) on July 07, 2009, 04:31:29 AM

blackpowder, pyrodex, goex and triple 7 have greatly varying speeds.per same charge. close to 400 fps between triple 7 and goex

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: Sneaky on July 08, 2009, 06:36:08 PM

777 pellets. cleaner and they touch off faster in my gun. my girlfriends muzzleloader likes the pyrodex more. Depends on the gun.

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: SHANE(WA) on July 08, 2009, 11:01:01 PM

never noticed a difference in powder

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: uncoolperson on July 08, 2009, 11:17:46 PM

inside the can at 50 yards with .223, goex goes boom best.

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: colockumelk on July 09, 2009, 09:54:07 AM

Quote from: Sneaky on July 08, 2009, 06:36:08 PM

777 pellets. cleaner and they touch off faster in my gun. my girlfriends muzzleloader likes the pyrodex more. Depends on the gun.

What type of ML do you have.  I 've been thinking of trying 777 because Shockey's gold has horrible groups in my gun.  With a musket cap do you have any ignition issues?

Title: Re: Pyrodex vs. Triple 7
Post by: shag on July 13, 2009, 06:27:37 PM

777 is the cats meow.   I still pour!