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Title: Catching a fawn
Post by: blacktail luv on June 28, 2009, 10:40:34 PM
A few guys i know around here like to catch fawns when they see them.  To me this seems wrong.  What do you guys think?  Just curious if I am the only one.  Would the mother care that the fawn smelled like a human afterwards, I am sure someone has some insight.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: scroder on June 28, 2009, 10:43:14 PM
would this not fall under the WDFW definition of harassment? IMO A really  :bdid:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: bowhunterforever on June 28, 2009, 10:44:40 PM
 :nono: :bdid:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: jackelope on June 28, 2009, 10:44:54 PM
i don't know if there is truth to the human scent thing, but whats the point? maybe they should get busted for harassing wildlife.
 :bdid:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Huntbear on June 28, 2009, 10:55:21 PM
Most does will abandon fawns after the fawns have been handled by humans.  I read a biology report years ago, they studied it and it was by far and away a bad bad thing for fawn mortality rate.

To bad momma is not around when they do that, she might knock some sense into them with those sharp ass hooves of hers.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: huntnphool on June 29, 2009, 12:04:29 AM
 :bdid:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: shoot-em-dead on June 29, 2009, 12:22:03 AM
not a good idea >:( >:(  Makes more than the momma deer mad. Why don't you post some names of the individuals for us. And pics.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: mkcj on June 29, 2009, 01:17:13 AM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: X-Force on June 29, 2009, 01:36:57 AM
 :bash: :bash: :bash: >:(
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: rasbo on June 29, 2009, 04:26:32 AM
leave them be..My mom raised one.The mother was hit by a car.everyday for the past 9 yrs that fawn has brought her young to the house.She now has a small herd that come every day.course she feeds them.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on June 29, 2009, 06:03:43 AM
I'd like to hang the *censored*s from a tree by their balls.  Thats just plain stupid, senseless, wasteful, and cruel.  DUMB.   I wonder how they'd like to have their kids starving to death, abandoned to the predators to tear apart.  Think of it this way.  Thats your buck they just killed. 
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: ICEMAN on June 29, 2009, 06:19:28 AM
Educate your buddies as to why not to do this.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on June 29, 2009, 06:22:23 AM
 >:(   Stupid people REALLY piss me off.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: ICEMAN on June 29, 2009, 06:25:20 AM
Man Bone...you are on a roll....are you feeling bloated and irritable?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on June 29, 2009, 06:27:27 AM
 :bash: >:( Bad idea, running and chasing a fawn and getting them all nerovus and exhausted, let alone that the mom will probably abandon them after. That is just bad for everyone thing and everyone involved.

You should explain to them and give them an example of what it must be like. No different than some big strange guy chasing their kids around.  Just a bad idea all the way around
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: weasel on June 29, 2009, 07:02:39 AM
also what about the "do gooders" that pick up baby animals cause they think they (the babies) are abandoned. i agree with all the above posts... education is the key...
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on June 29, 2009, 07:15:03 AM
In adition to being totally stupid, and completely unethical - as soon as they grab it, they are in violation of several laws prohibiting illegal possession of wildlife, take closed season, take by an illegal method, harassment. 
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: h2ofowlr on June 29, 2009, 07:19:50 AM
I would recommend only taking pictures.  The mom may abandom them or the human scent may be detected by preditors to give away there hidding positions.  Not a good idea.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Lee Root on June 29, 2009, 07:48:32 AM
Turn them in....... and get points. 
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: jackelope on June 29, 2009, 07:59:11 AM
Turn them in....... and get points. 

don't think anyone would be getting any poacher points for that....  :dunno:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: littlebuf on June 29, 2009, 08:00:11 AM
your friends are idiots
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Gobble on June 29, 2009, 08:00:50 AM
 :bdid:

Not a good idea at all.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: zackmioli on June 29, 2009, 08:12:50 AM
really bad idea. if my friends were doing this id have no problem laying one of them out.  :bash: :bash: >:( >:(
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: jmoyer2 on June 29, 2009, 08:17:18 AM
your friends are idiots



 :yeah:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on June 29, 2009, 11:29:38 AM
Turn them in....... and get points. 

don't think anyone would be getting any poacher points for that....  :dunno:

I wouldn't rule it out ... but I wouldn't count on it either.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: deaddog on June 29, 2009, 11:38:20 AM
your friends are idiots
simlpe and to the point. +1
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: littlebuf on June 29, 2009, 11:53:47 AM
and they deserve this


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-HWxIYX-CHFQ/deer_attacks_man/
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Alan K on June 29, 2009, 12:11:30 PM
I do think it's pretty messed up to chase them and put your hands on them for no real reason.

I'm not sure I believe in the whole human scent thing making the mother abandon them.  I guy I know that works in Vail told me a story of a doe that put her fawn at the end of the log piles on the landing several years back, and he moved the fawn up the hill off the landing so she didn't get crushed.  He showed up the next day and the doe had moved the fawn back to the exact same place in the logs.  He moved it again, to the same place he moved it before, and the next day it wasn't in the log pile or where he left it.  While I suppose it could have been abandoned or whatever, I'd think the doe finally got the picture and moved it away from the logging project.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: sandythebowtotenmama on June 29, 2009, 03:05:52 PM
I have a huge heart for baby animals, I found an elk calf about 6 yrs. ago and as cute and cuddly as it was, the momma in me wanted to hold it, the common sense in me said no, that's not a good idea so I just took a picture with my video camera and can watch it when I want, and know I didn't cause it any harm.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: saylean on June 29, 2009, 03:13:05 PM
what type of moron would catch a baby animal thinking it abandoned, especially a hiding fawn or calf? I used to catch baby birds when I was little..but come on.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: furbearer365 on June 29, 2009, 04:26:23 PM
Hey BlacktailLuv, do the right thing, kick their ass. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :stup: :violent1:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on June 29, 2009, 04:30:42 PM
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are you feeling bloated and irritable

No but they sure would be with that pine tree shoved up their ass if I ever catch them.  Pope would have some more business I'm afraid as soon as they found away to get off the top of that tree.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: bow4elk on June 29, 2009, 04:43:50 PM
 >:(

 :stup:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: BC CHASER on June 29, 2009, 06:17:17 PM
Im up for some skull bashing!   >:(
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Ghost Hunter on June 29, 2009, 06:46:07 PM
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are you feeling bloated and irritable

No but they sure would be with that pine tree shoved up their ass if I ever catch them.  Pope would have some more business I'm afraid as soon as they found away to get off the top of that tree.

 :mor:Sounds clear enuf to me :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: CTA on June 29, 2009, 07:17:40 PM
If I were you, I would pick new people to hang around with.   I would never...ever associate with someone as unethical (or as stupid) as that.  By the way, I heard on the news this morning that it's a misdemeanor to take wildlife like that.  Here is the link...

http://www.komonews.com/news/49347062.html (http://www.komonews.com/news/49347062.html)

Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: KillBilly on June 29, 2009, 07:27:31 PM
About two weeks ago, a gentleman was aroused by his dogs barking. It was early evening and he looks out the window to finds some idiots in his yard chasing a 3 day old fawn that stays in his yard with it's mother. Keeping in mind that this is private property within the Olympic National Park boundaries, these two nuts are talking to each other about taking the fawn back to their camp so the kids could play with it. Well our friend got pictures of their liscense number and vehicel before he ran them off and the Parkies are happily mailing the owner of the vehicle a huge citation.
I don't know if they had been drinking, smoking, etc, but what in the world could they have been going through their pea sized brains?
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: blacktail luv on June 29, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
These guys aren't really friends for of aquaintances.  Don't want anyone on here to think I would be associated with that stuff.  Next time i run into the guy I will let him know what i think about it, just wanted go make sure i wasn't the only one who was pissed off about it, I am glad I am not. >:(
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Pat/Rick on June 29, 2009, 08:27:40 PM
blacktail luv, I'm downstream of you in Skamania County. Yep, your acquaintances are an example of puke. I would tell everyone i knew about them. I would probably go as far to talk myself to being invited along and get alot of pics for the gameys and enough to post around in Bingen too. >:(
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Tom Reichner on July 03, 2009, 11:28:27 PM
Is this thread a joke?  Anyone who'd want to do this is a fool.  If I ever see anyone doing this, I'll take good, clear pics of them in action harassing the fawns, of their faces, their vehicles and license plates.  And I'll do anything I can to get them convicted.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Odie on July 04, 2009, 07:24:42 AM
haha thats funny we used to just get slammed and drive around till we seen some deer on the road put the high beams on em then hop out run up and tackle em or punch em in head its great when the snows like 3 ft deep and they struggle to get away. i dont mess with fawns though thats just mean.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: 270Shooter on July 04, 2009, 08:24:14 AM
haha thats funny we used to just get slammed and drive around till we seen some deer on the road put the high beams on em then hop out run up and tackle em or punch em in head its great when the snows like 3 ft deep and they struggle to get away. i dont mess with fawns though thats just mean.
What the hell is your problem? >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: littlebuf on July 04, 2009, 08:36:25 AM
im thinking there's a hint of sarcasm in odie's post here, at least i hope 
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: bow4elk on July 04, 2009, 08:37:48 AM
haha thats funny we used to just get slammed and drive around till we seen some deer on the road put the high beams on em then hop out run up and tackle em or punch em in head its great when the snows like 3 ft deep and they struggle to get away. i dont mess with fawns though thats just mean.
What the hell is your problem? >:( >:( >:(

Yes, please clarify your post or take this as a wake up call to shape up!
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: scroder on July 04, 2009, 08:39:47 AM
Odie,

Unless you were joking, I think you sir are a complete *censored*.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: littlebuf on July 04, 2009, 08:50:33 AM
if your not joking (and you must be) meet me at the bike rack cuz im gunna kick your ass, VIVA LA DEER !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: bow4elk on July 04, 2009, 08:56:55 AM
Enough with the threats, please.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on July 04, 2009, 09:24:18 AM
I assume Odie was joking.  No one is that ignorant, yet again I am surprised daily by people.  Was kind of a weird first post.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: buckhorn2 on July 04, 2009, 09:28:07 AM
Keep the pine trees handy just in case he is not. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on July 04, 2009, 09:31:43 AM
Out of respect for bow4elk, I'll try to be nice.  :)

(but for that we might upgrade to a green spruce.)
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: TeacherMan on July 04, 2009, 09:48:25 AM
I took my girls to the K Diamond K ranch south of Republic last week and let them ride horses for a bit. They had a baby white tail that they got to bottle feed. The mother was hit by a car and the owner actually did an emergency c section (she is a vet) and got out the baby. The little guy doesn't know that he is a deer. We had a little buck that the neighbors next to the school in Curlew had bottle raised that use to follow the kids to school everyday and chase off any stray dogs. Well the deer started getting a little friendly with the kids and tried jumping on them (he was a nice little 2 pt mule deer) someone called the game department and they came out on school grounds and shot the deer in the head in front of all the kids; talk about ass holes, but thats the game department for you   >:(

As to this topic, it is very stupid thing to do, I may accidentally chase you with my truck and forget about the brakes if I catch you at it  8)
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: littlebuf on July 04, 2009, 10:36:22 AM
Enough with the threats, please.

i thought mine was pretty obviously in a humorous manner  :dunno: sorry tho



(bike rack 3:00 o'clock be there buster  :P )   
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Odie on July 04, 2009, 11:21:43 AM
yeah you know i was just seeing how riled up you guys would get. of course i dont do that any more. thats before i got my three DUIs.  

sorry to take over this post    
was trying to lighten it up from all the bitchin.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: catwithboost on July 04, 2009, 11:34:43 AM
Odie,

Unless you were joking, I think you sir are a complete *censored*.
2nd that  >:(
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: moparman on July 04, 2009, 11:35:25 AM
look at the mortality rate on the game department netting deer for there studies. and I know probley the first thing thats going to be said is "they are trained to do it." its like a 10% death rate. so I really don't care about a couple guys catching a few fawns, what mabie they have caught 2 in there life. so everyone should calm down a bit.
anyway Odie if you want I can show you some back roads that might help drop your DUI rate. PM me if ya wanna drink some beers and shoot some deers. also Its good to see someone on here with any sence of humor.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: huntnphool on July 04, 2009, 11:37:42 AM
Quote
PM me if ya wanna drink some beers and shoot some deers.

 Hopefully not at the same time
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: hoytem on July 04, 2009, 11:44:23 AM
are f__king kidding me!? this is the most ridiculous post i've seen on here. I'm going to laugh now and suggest this post be moved to the jokes section :chuckle:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on July 04, 2009, 11:46:02 AM
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so I really don't care about a couple guys catching a few fawns

Well I do
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: huntnphool on July 04, 2009, 11:46:42 AM
I think he meant drink some deers and shoot some beers :chuckle:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: huntnphool on July 04, 2009, 11:47:54 AM
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so I really don't care about a couple guys catching a few fawns
Well I do

 (https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10123/icon_ditto.gif)
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on July 04, 2009, 12:01:50 PM
I assume the beer is already flowing......
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Odie on July 04, 2009, 12:02:54 PM
Thanks moparman PM sent! last winter me an some guys from the rez were hunting up entiat for winter meat and we started gettin some heat from some gamies so we told them off or we'll take care of some big horn sheep on that highway 97 you should have seen their faces, priceless.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: littlebuf on July 04, 2009, 12:06:14 PM
oh i get it your one of those guy's. great  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: moparman on July 04, 2009, 12:11:31 PM
Hey odie, joking around is one thing, but if theres anything I cant stand is those damn indians shooting all our game and leaving the meat. Becuase of you guys my friends and I are the ones soaking up all the heat about Eagles being shot up Mud Creek, and *censored*s shooting magnum bucks and just cutting off the horns. not cool man.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: huntnphool on July 04, 2009, 12:13:22 PM
I don't think he is native, maybe from south of the border though and just friends with natives. :dunno:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on July 04, 2009, 12:16:17 PM
That would explain his apparent apathy towards the deer or fawns or any other wildlife for that matter,excluding "Wild Turkey" of course. 
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: huntnphool on July 04, 2009, 12:21:56 PM
excluding "Wild Turkey" of course.

 Thats some funny chit right there(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10123/16.gif)
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: ICEMAN on July 04, 2009, 12:27:26 PM
Couple of newbies with the attitude may be my cherry.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: mossback91 on July 04, 2009, 12:28:00 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Odie on July 04, 2009, 12:35:24 PM
you should all be ashamed of yourselves. were the ones getting persecuted for shooting our animals and you just think its wrong because you cant do it.  how about i take your whole family and send them to compton and not give you any compensation thats just ridiculous.  white folk just come in thinkin they own the place and want to regulate tradition and think hunting is their heritage thats stupid. obviously we've been self sufficiant for centuries just for you to come in and ruin everything. pat yourselves on the back.

must be fun in front of your computers on your contry's liberation day. nothin better to do huh well i'm gonna go shoot off some fireworks that are worth a shart.  good day
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: ICEMAN on July 04, 2009, 12:42:43 PM
Odie, most folks that post on this site respect this earth, and the good animals on it so much more than you appear to. These folks also have great respect for this country, work hard, pay their taxes, and enjoy their holiday.

Show some respect for them, and for yourself. You are fulfilling a commonly held stereotype....
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: littlebuf on July 04, 2009, 12:43:02 PM
ahh the ancient Indian tradition of taking a moving truck into the hills and slaughtering every damn thing you see when ever the hell you want from the road and then leaving your beer cans,trash and most of the animal to rot in the woods, yup that's just like your ancestors always did, im sure glad that tradition hasn't died. your welcome for the casino's by the way. crap i did it again didnt I  :bash:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: mossback91 on July 04, 2009, 12:45:31 PM
I thought this thread was about catching fawns..........


Come on by odie offer still stands
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: mossback91 on July 04, 2009, 12:47:13 PM
I took my girls to the K Diamond K ranch south of Republic last week and let them ride horses for a bit. They had a baby white tail that they got to bottle feed. The mother was hit by a car and the owner actually did an emergency c section (she is a vet) and got out the baby. The little guy doesn't know that he is a deer. We had a little buck that the neighbors next to the school in Curlew had bottle raised that use to follow the kids to school everyday and chase off any stray dogs. Well the deer started getting a little friendly with the kids and tried jumping on them (he was a nice little 2 pt mule deer) someone called the game department and they came out on school grounds and shot the deer in the head in front of all the kids; talk about ass holes, but thats the game department for you   >:(


That happens with almost every bottle fed calf teacherman..........start jumpin and what not trying to play.............must be a identy crisis or something  :dunno:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Odie on July 04, 2009, 12:54:33 PM
say what you want i still have the odie unlimited draw this winter.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on July 04, 2009, 06:02:51 PM
One sure way to find yourself  :ban:  is to insult this country and the fine folks that have served are serving and will serve.  I hope Yakima and a few of the boys can see why stereotypes exist.   Interesting to see a native american with the last name Mendoza though.  Thats fresh.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: stumprat on July 04, 2009, 06:03:18 PM
say what you want i still have the odie unlimited draw this winter.


Still one of my favorite books.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Jburke on July 04, 2009, 06:55:19 PM
I would say that this definitely would be considered harassing wildlife.  But that's not up to me to write the citations, could be worth bonus point to you.  Depending on how well you like your friends?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: JoeVon on July 04, 2009, 08:49:13 PM
http://www.tdn.com/articles/2009/07/04/top_story/doc4a4eeee65d8c4761519451.txt

Found this today in the local rag...
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: huntnphool on July 05, 2009, 01:15:39 AM
See ya Odie, you are gone :hello: :ban:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: JoeVon on July 05, 2009, 01:17:39 AM
 :kneel: 

The Ban Hammer has fallen.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: ICEMAN on July 05, 2009, 05:41:47 AM
Good to see Odie banned..... I got up this morning curious to see if this Idiot was still posting. I am still continually amazed how some of these guys "just don't get it"....
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on July 05, 2009, 05:50:37 AM
I instant nuked him.  It was apparant that he was only here to cause mischief.  I didn't need a race war on my hands, and a sure way to piss me off is to insult my country.  He was a good example of what is wrong with society , and why there still is such a division amongst us. 
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: ICEMAN on July 05, 2009, 05:57:49 AM
Good job.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Ghost Hunter on July 05, 2009, 06:05:11 AM
 :tup: :police: :mor:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: littletoes on July 05, 2009, 08:52:52 AM
He fit the stereotype perfectly.....


I've a couple of friends that cut hay, and always have to move fawns so they don't get "bailed".  Doe's seem to always come back and get their babies. Makes me think, sure their may be something to the point that deer may abandon their babies, but oft times they don't. Each parent animal is an individual and thinks as such, no one mold fits an entire population.

Of course, moving deer to save them is not the same as chasing them for fun, or because you THINK the parent animal abandoned them.

What they must be taught, the STRESS induced by the 'capture' is enough to possibly cause the death of the infant animal.
The animal doesn't know your not going to eat it, any more than a coyote or bear. The big 'Ol goody-tooshoo human looks just like a large predator to the fawn's instinct's.
Stress kills

The sad part about the 'odie' thing, he can't be taught otherwise. 'Evil Whitemen, hell, he wears the whitemans clothes, spends the whitemans money, drinks the whitemans beer and more than likely does the whitemans drugs, oh, and its the whitemans fault! Forgot that part.
They see animals as an un-exhaustible resource, and we contribute to the problem. If you have ever read a "Game Status and Trend Report", and know what you are reading, you will notice in there EXACTLY how many animals we "CONTRIBUTE"  to the cause for natives to be able to "HARVEST" (yes-what a joke!), animals.

You don't want me to go on, you'll only get angrier.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: stumprat on July 05, 2009, 09:00:09 AM
When a trouble maker gets banned, can he start a new account with another handle? Or does the site remember his e-mail address?
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: BC CHASER on July 05, 2009, 09:34:28 AM
Was he the fastest to ever get banned?  The stereotype proves itself true once again!  Hey Odie I hope to see you in the woods this year........ oh wait you probably never get out of the truck do you.  Scum! 
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: huntnphool on July 05, 2009, 09:37:11 AM
He was a good example of what is wrong with society , and why there still is such a division amongst us. 

  :brew:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: mossback91 on July 05, 2009, 09:38:25 AM
He was a good example of what is wrong with society , and why there still is such a division amongst us. 

  :brew:

isnt it a bit early to be drinking phool?
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: alanger on July 05, 2009, 09:41:59 AM
Moss conc time says it's beer:30
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: huntnphool on July 05, 2009, 09:47:55 AM
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how about i take your whole family and send them to compton and not give you any compensation thats just ridiculous.

 They themselves turned the land they were given into "Compton" look at the way some of them live :puke:

 And "no compensation", are you kidding me? I would sure love to have the money I have doled out for taxes, it sure as hell wouldn't be spent on cigarettes, booze and junkyard cars.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: alanger on July 05, 2009, 09:57:49 AM
was he one of the brother's that was going all over shooting the big deer and elks last fall????? :dunno:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: blacktail luv on July 05, 2009, 12:18:14 PM
Thank you to Bone for banning that guy, things were getting kinda heated on here.  Anyway back to the fawn thing.  When I was in high school we had a small party at a girl friends house.  When we were getting ready to leave I was sitting in my truck talking to a buddy in here drive way.  Behind him appeared this three point buck.  He walked up to us and let us pet him and would even "fight" with me when I made a set of horns on my head with my hands.  It was one of the neatest experiences of my life.  She said the mother had gotten hit a couple years before and that they had bottle fed him through the summer, but had not seen him for a year or so.  Everyone of the locals knew him and he was relatively safe, but after a couple more years he got pretty big and eventually someone shot him.  He wasn't exactly tame at the time he was shot, he had gotten a little smarter but it was still kinda sad.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on July 05, 2009, 12:23:07 PM
There are multiple triggers when you get banned.  Some find ways around them, but generally we know who you are and you find yourself not able to see your favorite hunting site.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: littlebuf on July 05, 2009, 12:38:54 PM
its great that loser is gone from here, but unfortunately he will still be in the woods raping the resource's. sure wish we could ban scum like him from the woods. maybe we'll get lucky and he'll walk off a cliff in a drug induced stupor while he's "hunting"   
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: 3dsheetmetal on July 05, 2009, 12:53:14 PM
For you Odie :tree1: The guy really needs a major attitude adjustment  :stup:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: PacificNWhunter on July 05, 2009, 03:17:25 PM
Missed this thread until now. I share the same feellings with all you guys, leave the fawns ALONE. Spent a summer in AK with my grandparents during highschool and the neighbor lady was going to rescue an "abandoned" moose calf. Apparently it had been alone all day. Well she got about 10 yards from it when momma moose came up out of the brush looking to stomp the breath out of her. Guess she barley got away :chuckle:.

Nice job mods! You guys do a great job on these boards!
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: alanger on July 05, 2009, 03:21:22 PM
IT was a  :bdid: for odie to just come on here and do that.       pointless :stup:         



 :ban:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: Sporting_Man on July 05, 2009, 11:44:05 PM
It is well known that even feeding ducks in public ponds is against the law, let alone chasing and catching fawns..! Only idiots would think of doing it for fun. As far as rescuing - tough call sometimes, those humanitarian actions for abandoned/motherless young animals can also end up as tragedy (wild animals with no fear of humans).
As far as Odie case - many moons will go over this country before this gets settled and we have some common sense and have natives cooperate for the same cause. They should, because conservation should be part of their culture, but they have much stronger drive to oppose our efforts, regardless of common benefit. I still wouldn't trade for their benefits. Like my life the way it is. I don't believe in free money and those special rights. They just ruin them, obviously.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on July 06, 2009, 05:52:18 AM
Well Said!
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: littletoes on July 06, 2009, 08:27:12 AM
A good start would be us not giving them any more game animals.

We capture and take around 40 elk each year and turn loose on the res just for them to kill. What would be left if we didn't contribute any animals??? Are there any natural born elk living on the res now? I don't think so.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: elkaholic on July 06, 2009, 12:44:37 PM
Littletoes, that makes u think huh.... They need to be cutoof and learn how to manage what they still have.
Bone-Glad u nuked that guy.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: blacktail luv on July 06, 2009, 01:40:53 PM
Wow i had no idea we planted elk on the res for them to shoot, that seems absolutely ridiculus to me, something is terribly wrong if we are doing that for them, they sould have to manage their elk on their land for themselves.  PERIOD.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: littlebuf on July 06, 2009, 01:43:49 PM
especially since the elk aren't indigenous to the area's there planted. which leads one to wonder how is there "tradition" to hunt elk all year? hmmm  :dunno:
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: KillBilly on July 06, 2009, 01:58:46 PM
Let's get back on track...this topic is about fawns, not putting elk on the res.

No need to Jack it unless you want it locked.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: alanger on July 06, 2009, 02:33:35 PM
Bone-Glad u nuked that guy.

I looked at his profile and it said he was active on Today??? Can he still get on this site fromt he same user accoutn.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: boneaddict on July 06, 2009, 02:40:12 PM
No, but I will look alanger
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: alanger on July 06, 2009, 02:43:45 PM
OK. it seemed kinda strange?
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: mossback91 on July 06, 2009, 02:53:27 PM
idk why it does that but it does that with alot of banned ppl :dunno: its weird
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: alanger on July 06, 2009, 02:57:30 PM
idk why poeple think that s*&t is cool.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: halflife65 on July 06, 2009, 04:25:18 PM
Was the initial question serious or just to rile people up?  Seemed like a funny question to ask - I think that the kind of reaction that was shown by people that responded was pretty much what should have been expected (and, in my opinion, the way people should respond to something like that.)

That Odie guy doesn't deserve another thought.  He probably just created an account for the sole purpose of getting everyone fired up...who knows if what he said is actually true, anyway.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: littletoes on July 06, 2009, 07:39:49 PM
Its true.

I live close to the Spokane and not far from the Colville Res's.

Now back to the topic, I've been seeing quite a few fawn's out there guys. Deer numbers might be down a bit after two hard winters, but, depending on the survival ratio of these births, and the coming winter, we shall see what happens.

Harassment of fawns leads to smaller survival ratios, and by what everyone here is replying I'd say the word is out.

How I explained it to my son;

There is a fawn, you find it in the grass, and it jumps-so you chase it. It thinks YOU are going to kill and eat it so, how far and fast are YOU going to run if you think something is going to kill and eat you? You would run as far and fast as you could till you dropped from sheer exhaustion.
You would not be able to go any farther, and your heart would be to the point of exploding...but maybe not quite....then you get caught.
When you laid down, you had given up, but the fear would still be there.
This all equals to stress. Stress that their bodies may not be able to recoup from.
Stress kills.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: alanger on July 06, 2009, 08:35:06 PM
I absolutely agree littletoes. If you disturb them they will not be as secure and have less confidence of themselves compared to the ordinary fawn. Resulting in less offspring surviving.
Title: Re: Catching a fawn
Post by: elkoholic1 on July 06, 2009, 09:38:18 PM
 :bdid: :bdid:  :bash: :bash: >:( >:(
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