Post by: zackmioli on July 22, 2009, 09:49:23 PM
Just curious who else will be in the hills and what areas people will be targeting!? If you don't want to give up that info I understand, just make it general, westside, east side, etc.
Hope to hear some great stories and see some awesome pictures and have some of my own to post! Good luck to everyone. Finally we will have hunting to talk about again! :IBCOOL: :hello:
Post by: Huntbear on July 22, 2009, 09:55:00 PM
Maybe do some calling.
Post by: Kain on July 22, 2009, 10:00:40 PM
The wait is killing me. Im buying a freezer this weekend just in case. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: coyotemadness on July 22, 2009, 10:03:29 PM
I'll be out on the 2nd though. Westside.
Post by: huntress4203 on July 22, 2009, 10:23:46 PM
Glo
Post by: head hunter on July 22, 2009, 10:58:28 PM
Post by: littlebuf on July 23, 2009, 07:45:28 AM
Post by: rasbo on July 23, 2009, 08:00:53 AM
ive got three spots picked out, going to set up and call. im pretty optimistic about these areas, all signs point to some large bears in the areasay your prayers buff,they will most likley shut it down till sept..hope not
Post by: saylean on July 23, 2009, 08:19:55 AM
Post by: boneaddict on July 23, 2009, 08:27:53 AM
Post by: Kain on July 23, 2009, 09:17:27 AM
Temps better come down or I won't go, excited about it or not. 80 degrees at 7 in the morning, triple digits afternoon. NOT bear hunting weather.
Very true might have to just do evening hunts or not at all. :dunno:
Post by: saylean on July 23, 2009, 10:04:53 AM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on July 23, 2009, 10:27:18 AM
Temps better come down or I won't go, excited about it or not. 80 degrees at 7 in the morning, triple digits afternoon. NOT bear hunting weather.
I was told the hotter the better over some water? That the Bear need water several times per day :dunno:
Post by: blindpig on July 23, 2009, 10:33:09 AM
Post by: boneaddict on July 23, 2009, 10:34:51 AM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on July 23, 2009, 10:43:33 AM
Not in Killing Austrian, processing and saving the meat and hide and on our side of the mountain avoiding the bees.
Bone
Thanks, that does make sense!
Last year me and my September deer had to flee from the yellow jackets. How can you avoid the bees and other flying pest's after a kill in hot weather :dunno: besides not killing anything :dunno:
Post by: Kain on July 23, 2009, 10:53:42 AM
Post by: Machias on July 23, 2009, 11:08:44 AM
Post by: backwoods_boy on July 23, 2009, 11:45:55 AM
WHACK!!!!
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Post by: Kain on July 23, 2009, 11:46:48 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,30049.0.html
Post by: Kain on July 23, 2009, 12:24:11 PM
Post by: boneaddict on July 23, 2009, 12:32:14 PM
Post by: Jeremy S on July 23, 2009, 12:37:33 PM
Post by: bearmanric on July 23, 2009, 02:50:33 PM
Post by: Machias on July 23, 2009, 02:55:48 PM
well i'm leaving friday for the coast. i live for bear calling. sorry not giving up what bear time we have left. i'll be shooting bear up close. i've handeled over 42 bear's from 93-97 none were lost to bone sour. we put them in the River at night. i carry gamebag's if needed. and stream light flast light's have the best knive's and pack board's wheen needing them.Rick
I'm sure not advocating giving up any time. Lots of folks like yourself are prepared and knowledgeable. It's the joeschmuckatellie that will end up losing and wasting bears. Those are the guys I hope reconsider when the temps are so warm.
Good luck Ric!!
Post by: bearmanric on July 23, 2009, 04:02:59 PM
Post by: PWN Kurt on July 23, 2009, 06:21:41 PM
Glassing, spot and stalk. Maybe calling if we need to get them in shooting postion.
I hope for some cooler weather.
Kurt
Post by: PacificNWhunter on July 24, 2009, 10:32:28 PM
My style of hunting is usually 5-10 miles in, even with bear so it does lend to some issues.
My thoughts exactly, have a few bears spotted but there back in a ways and no way with the heat I will be able to get it out. Hard pressed to have a packer help out either, steep country.
Post by: Kain on July 25, 2009, 03:12:59 PM
Post by: Slider on July 25, 2009, 05:49:29 PM
Post by: PolarBear on July 25, 2009, 06:13:28 PM
Gonna be out between St. Helens and Adams. Up high, watching the berry areas, and alpine meadows.:yeah:
Maybe do some calling.
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on July 25, 2009, 09:56:49 PM
Post by: zackmioli on July 26, 2009, 12:07:39 AM
Post by: bobcat on July 26, 2009, 12:17:29 AM
Post by: ponyboy156 on July 26, 2009, 10:55:13 AM
Post by: bearmanric on July 26, 2009, 12:25:53 PM
Post by: littlebuf on July 26, 2009, 04:15:57 PM
Post by: bearmanric on July 26, 2009, 04:21:26 PM
Post by: littlebuf on July 26, 2009, 04:46:24 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on July 26, 2009, 05:33:24 PM
Post by: littletoes on July 26, 2009, 07:07:08 PM
Post by: bearmanric on July 26, 2009, 07:37:11 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on July 26, 2009, 07:45:56 PM
Post by: littlebuf on July 26, 2009, 07:49:21 PM
Post by: bowhunter1972 on July 26, 2009, 07:57:26 PM
Post by: mulehunter on July 26, 2009, 08:05:20 PM
Mulehunter ;)
Post by: Kain on July 26, 2009, 08:43:47 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on July 26, 2009, 09:26:43 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 27, 2009, 12:56:34 PM
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but they closed the woods
Huh?
-Steve
Post by: bearmanric on July 27, 2009, 03:41:03 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on July 27, 2009, 03:45:42 PM
that's why i hunt state and national forest land. Rick:yeah:, and because its ten times better ;)
Post by: littlebuf on July 27, 2009, 04:51:19 PM
that's why i hunt state and national forest land. Rick:yeah:, and because its ten times better ;)
its all woods :dunno: im pretty sure the bears don't know where state land ends and private begins. ive got other spots but there not as good as the ones in there. to hot any way so it doesn't make much a difference, id be surprised if many bears were up and about during shooting hours in this heat
Post by: Houndhunter on July 27, 2009, 06:16:13 PM
that's why i hunt state and national forest land. Rick:yeah:, and because its ten times better ;)
its all woods :dunno: im pretty sure the bears don't know where state land ends and private begins. ive got other spots but there not as good as the ones in there. to hot any way so it doesn't make much a difference, id be surprised if many bears were up and about during shooting hours in this heat
:chuckle:
Post by: bearmanric on July 27, 2009, 09:56:20 PM
Post by: BrandonWatts on July 28, 2009, 12:01:18 AM
Post by: bearmanric on July 28, 2009, 11:40:40 AM
Post by: Ray on July 28, 2009, 11:42:32 AM
Good luck all.
Post by: WDFW-SUX on July 28, 2009, 11:49:22 AM
Post by: Kain on July 28, 2009, 01:49:26 PM
Post by: rasbo on July 28, 2009, 01:50:24 PM
Mr. bone might be right. this is freaking Hot. i'm not excited about going to the coast for over 5 day's . going to be by myself most of the time. would much rather be in the high country.RickShould be cooler on the coast :dunno:
Post by: billythekidrock on July 28, 2009, 02:54:35 PM
Should be cooler on the coast :dunno:
Yep.
Post by: Houndhunter on July 28, 2009, 03:12:57 PM
i cant stop thinkin bout it, only 2 days till i leave
Post by: Kain on July 28, 2009, 03:33:15 PM
if it stays in the 80s we will still shoot, 90s i wont shoot but i guess i cant stop the guys with me :chuckle:
i cant stop thinkin bout it, only 2 days till i leave
That where Im at. If it is near the truck it might get shot. :chuckle:
Post by: runniNgunnin on July 28, 2009, 03:42:51 PM
Post by: bearmanric on July 28, 2009, 04:28:56 PM
Post by: buckhorn2 on July 28, 2009, 04:53:57 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on July 28, 2009, 05:09:56 PM
Rick I just went to where I bear hunt here on the coast and it;s owned by green diamond and they closed it due to extreme fire danger. I don;t know where your going but check and see down here some other logging outfits are closing there access gates to any moterized traffic and it;s hot here in grayland today.i think he'll be ok ;)
Post by: bearmanric on July 28, 2009, 05:13:57 PM
Post by: buckhorn2 on July 28, 2009, 10:58:08 PM
Post by: buckhorn2 on July 28, 2009, 11:00:33 PM
Post by: buckhorn2 on July 28, 2009, 11:02:17 PM
Post by: Kain on July 28, 2009, 11:32:12 PM
I have had reoccurring nightmares about bears for years that are very similar to those pictures. I am always in a car or a house or trying to get to one and bears are trying to get me. Its funny because I am never scared of bears when I am in the woods. :dunno:
Post by: bearmanric on July 29, 2009, 06:44:16 AM
Post by: PA BEN on July 30, 2009, 11:01:52 AM
Post by: boneaddict on July 30, 2009, 11:42:30 AM
Post by: PA BEN on July 30, 2009, 12:11:46 PM
Post by: Northwest75 on July 30, 2009, 12:19:43 PM
Post by: boneaddict on July 30, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
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A dead animal doesn't generate body heat,
The butcher is incorrect. The decomposition absolutely creates body heat and the hide acts as one heck of an insulator keeping it in. With the lack of blood circulation (a live bear) all hell breaks loose. Throw in the grease and you have yourself a real issue. Then there is the bacteria on the skin and the grease. WHOLE new issue.
Post by: WDFW-SUX on July 30, 2009, 12:28:26 PM
Post by: PA BEN on July 30, 2009, 12:32:47 PM
Post by: boneaddict on July 30, 2009, 12:35:34 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 30, 2009, 12:47:11 PM
Post by: Kain on July 30, 2009, 12:57:05 PM
Isnt decomp an anaerobic exercise........ :dunno:
Thats how I get my exercise. :chuckle: Working out right now...just decomposing while on the net. Did I mention Im a beefcake. :chuckle:
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 30, 2009, 01:02:59 PM
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I've hung w/t deer in 70 degree temps for 4 days up under a tree in my back yard.
Sure, uh.. You can do that with a Deer. Don't try it with Bear or Elk. You'll ruin the meat.
Skin it. Cool it, as soon as possible.
-Steve
Post by: Ray on July 30, 2009, 01:03:34 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 30, 2009, 01:15:26 PM
Post by: bearpaw on July 30, 2009, 01:45:29 PM
One time we killed a bear in the heat of the day about noon. Too big to drag, we had to bone it out and did it immediately, all was good. We put it in back packs and headed out for the truck. We got to the truck before dark, opened up the backpacks and :yike: it stunk. The worst was some scraps we had put in a plastic bag because they were just small loose pieces. Much of the heat was still in all of the meat and it was all spoiled that quick. From that experience we learned to keep meat open to the air and not even put inside the backpacks, better to strap on outside of a packframe in a flybag and have it otherwise open to air out.
Whenever we kill a bear in the heat now, we cut the belly open clear up to the head unless doing a lifesize mount, gut it, then prop the rib cage open and get headed down the road. If we can get it loaded and back to the house in less than 2 hours we will skin it at the house, other wise we skin them on the mountain to let the heat out and put halves in fly bags. When traveling home it is important to try and keep the carcass in the shade and air circulation around the carcass to help the cooling process. Hang only in the shade if 70 or under, otherwise get into refrigeration as soon as possible. If needed bone it and put pans of meat in your refrigerator and let the meat age in the frig for a few days.
If you are in backcountry and need to make two trips, hang half in the shade in fly bags. If it's nearly dark and you are coming back in the morning, hang it so the sun won't be hitting it in the morning either.
If it's the middle of the day and over 70 or 80, and you can't pack it all and you know you wont get back with 2 to 4 hours, put it in a stream, it's better than spoiling.
Spit and pee on the ground around your meat and it will help keep coyotes away. Doesn't always work, but usualy does. Drag the guts a ways from your meat and leave in the open, that will help keep the birds away from your meat.
Post by: PA BEN on July 30, 2009, 02:08:24 PM
Not trying to start something I have done it with bear, I do how ever take all the fat off. I arrowed a bear at 5:30 pm in 90 degree heat and it was after 9 pm before I got him in a cooler. I arrowed a deer in 80 degree heat, found him 5 hrs after i arrowed him. Skin it. Cool it, as soon as possible, it's not the end of the world if it's hot. Go hunt, take care of the meat. Take a cooler with ice bags in it, when you get back put the ice in the cavity.QuoteI've hung w/t deer in 70 degree temps for 4 days up under a tree in my back yard.
Sure, uh.. You can do that with a Deer. Don't try it with Bear or Elk. You'll ruin the meat.
Skin it. Cool it, as soon as possible.
-Steve
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Post by: bearpaw on July 30, 2009, 02:11:44 PM
Post by: PA BEN on July 30, 2009, 02:13:59 PM
I'm not here to bust your balls, but why the plastic bags? Loose meat goes will in agame bags.
Post by: billythekidrock on July 30, 2009, 04:12:56 PM
bearpaw: worst was some scraps we had put in a plastic bag because they were just small loose pieces.
I'm not here to bust your balls, but why the plastic bags? Loose meat goes will in agame bags.
To be honest putting the meat in plastic bags is no different then hanging it in 70 degree weather or keeping the hide on a bear for 5 hours on purpose. :dunno:
Post by: boneaddict on July 30, 2009, 04:20:08 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on July 30, 2009, 04:24:29 PM
Post by: bearpaw on July 30, 2009, 04:31:48 PM
Point in telling the story was to tell what not to do and hopefully save some bear meat from spoiling.
If you want a good laugh i could probably tell a few other big mistakes through the years. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I'll add this.....I was 20 years less intelligent, 20 years ago.... :chuckle:
School of hard knocks teaches you well.
Post by: PA BEN on July 30, 2009, 06:02:36 PM
I'm sure no one would like to leave the hide on for 5 hrs or hang a animal in 70 degree heat, but it happens. All I'm saying is I've done it and if you do certain things it will work. Don't stop hunting because it's hot out, just deal with it, be ready for the heat and have a good hunt. BTW, meat in a plastic bag does not breath it will go bad no matter how cool it is unless you freeze it, hanging meat in the shade in 70 degree heat will work as long as it cools down at night.bearpaw: worst was some scraps we had put in a plastic bag because they were just small loose pieces.
I'm not here to bust your balls, but why the plastic bags? Loose meat goes will in a game bags.
To be honest putting the meat in plastic bags is no different then hanging it in 70 degree weather or keeping the hide on a bear for 5 hours on purpose. :dunno:
Post by: bearpaw on July 31, 2009, 10:48:57 AM
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meat in a plastic bag does not breath it will go bad no matter how cool it is unless you freeze it, hanging meat in the shade in 70 degree heat will work as long as it cools down at night.
You are absolutely correct, then in the morning a person better get something done with the meat before it heats back up over 70.
Post by: thearcherykid on July 31, 2009, 11:21:12 AM
good luck to you all
Post by: Tom Reichner on August 04, 2009, 01:19:15 AM
One thing that hasn't been said about hot weather hunting is the live body temp of a bear. Once you kill a bear and gut it, it's already cooling down to the outside temp. I'm not saying take your time, but you do have time.Cooling down to the outside temp? But the outside temp here where I hunt is between 90 and 100 degrees. So I have time because the bear will "cool down" to 95 degrees? Hmmmmmm
Post by: PA BEN on August 05, 2009, 09:42:09 AM
Post by: bearmanric on August 05, 2009, 10:29:53 AM
Post by: Kain on August 05, 2009, 10:46:24 PM
Looks to be a lot cooler this weekend. I am leaving friday night and should be up in the woods all weekend. As long as I dont run out of bug spray. :chuckle: You know my sunblock and bug spray smell kinda sweet think they could get me for baiting. J/k dont answer that. :chuckle:
bearmanric did you have any activity last weekend? You should have been about 20 degrees cooler over there than what the rest of us were dealing with.